Nancy Young wrote:
>
> Geoff Miller wrote:
> >
> > Kate Connally > writes:
> >
> > > Generally, though I don't like to by foam plates because
> > > they are not recyclable and are made from non-renewable
> > > resources.
> >
> > What are you, some sort of hippie? Do you wear Brikenstocks
> > and a smock made from hemp fiber?
>
> I'm not a hippie and I couldn't agree with her more.
>
> nancy


I resemble that remark as well. :-)

K. (the tree hugger and proud of it...)

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On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 17:14:23 -0600, Katra
> wrote:

>
>
> sf wrote:

> >
> > I've seen them all and still fail to understand why cat
> > lovers think virtually torturing the poor animal by giving
> > them a stupid haircut (you KNOW it was on purpose, just to
> > photograph) or plonking something they don't like on their
> > head is funny.
> >
> > sf
> > lover of cats AND dogs
> >
> > Practice safe eating - always use condiments
>
>
> Most real cat lovers would not do that to their cats unless it was for
> their health.... :-) I do have my persians bellies and rear ends shaved
> as needed to prevent matts and dingleberries.
>
> I also shaved my shelties for the first time this summer, and they were
> OH so much more active and happy! :-) They appreciated not having all
> that heavy fur during the hot summer.
>
> I don't give my cats funny haircuts, but I don't see anything wrong with
> dressing them funny, IF they are willing and cooperative! It's not all
> that unusual for young kids to treat some cats like dolls.
>
> It's no more cruel than this was to this dog:
>
> http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/DogSunglasses.jpg

I totally disagree. You can tell by the look on that dogs
face that the sunglasses weren't there for more than a
nanosecond than it took to take the picture.
>
> Where is your sense of humor if the animal is not being harmed???
>
I have absolutely no sense of humor when a cat or dog is
being humiliated in that mannor.

Listen up! I was raised in a household full of cats and
dogs. Between my Grandmother's house and mine (we lived
next to each other)... we had up to 15 house animals (people
outlive animals) and 30 or more kennel animals.

I grew up with pets; I have pets now; I know almost all
there is to know about pets and I DON'T THINK IT'S FUNNY.

However, I think: People who think it's funny to torture
pets that way are insane... and I'm being nice.




Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 20:22:29 GMT, Sheryl Rosen
> wrote:

> in article , Jack Schidt® at
> wrote on 12/7/03 11:11 AM:
>
> > Let's back up a moment and discuss this bachelor thang....
> >
> > Paper plates are for peons. They're for situations where a buncha drunks
> > are around and you don't want to sweep up fragments of gramma's chinelle,
> > chinette, chinous, whatever. A real stud has a dishwasher.
>
> Trust me when I tell you this:
> Jack Schidt has a dishwasher!
> And it's awesome!!!!

Clue me in... what brand?


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 01:25:18 GMT, "Jack Schidt®"
> wrote:

>
> "PENMART01" > wrote in message
> ...

> >
> > So what's your alibi... must be the six bucks you spent on your service
> for 5
> > 1/2 collection of mismatched chipped/crazed Salvation Army niftie
> thrifties.
> > <G>
> >
>
> Don't forgetted the used Hellman's jar beer and wine glasses.
>
> Jack Rube
>
Hmmm. I'm used to jelly jar glasses from childhood.... so a
mayo jar for beer isn't very far off, my friend!

But for wine, oooooh - that's uncivilized! You might as
well drink it from a funnel/tube ala that teen party-binge
thing.



Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:24:57 -0500 (EST),
wrote:

> if I used real plates all the time my sink would be full of
> dishes. If I had a dishwasher I would use real plates.

At least you're HONEST! If I was single and didn't have a
dishwasher, I'd use napkins or paper towels and my fingers
whenever possible.



Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On 8 Dec 2003 12:50:53 -0500,
(Mike Marshall) wrote:

> "Sam D." > writes:
> >I think you just got some really poor quality foam plates.
>
> I never considered the melt, but the little plastic steak knives
> cut right through the foam plates!
>
You're are real HE-man. <wink>
Only kidding..... that's what I don't like about them, too.



Practice safe eating - always use condiments

wrote:
>>
>> Being a bachelor, I use a lot of paper plates.

The two phrases do not need to have a direct connection. Disposable
plates are quite useful in many situations, but I'd hate to try and
cut a steak on one.

>>Recently they had foam
>> plates on sale, so I thought I'd give them a try. Well, they are
>> horrible. Yesterday I fried some eggs, put them on the plate and they
>> melted right thru.

I foolishly poured hot bacon drippings into a plastic sour cream
container for disposal. Wow! Melted plastic and sizzling grease all
over the stove top. Your fried egg directly from the pan probably also
melts the plastic coating on 'fancy' paper plates. Many soft plastics
are quite heat-sensitive.

>>Today I made pancakes, put them on the foam plate
>> and they melted thru, pouring syrup all down my clothing.

^_^ Sorry.

>>Tomorrow I
>> will return these plates to the store. Not only are they useless for
>> hot foods, but I tend to wonder what harm that melted foam does when I
>> eat it. I will never buy these again.

Did you check the packet to see if it mentioned anything about
heat-tolerance?

Consider some *real* plates -- there are heaps of sturdy plastic ones
you can use in the m'wave, put hot-hot things on, and use a knife on
without mixing plate material into your food. If you're washing a
frying pan (and pancake batter bowl), it can't be *too* much trouble
to slip a plate into the washing-up.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 20:22:29 GMT, Sheryl Rosen
> > wrote:
>
> > in article , Jack
Schidt® at
> > wrote on 12/7/03 11:11 AM:
> >
> > > Let's back up a moment and discuss this bachelor thang....
> > >
> > > Paper plates are for peons. They're for situations where a buncha
drunks
> > > are around and you don't want to sweep up fragments of gramma's
chinelle,
> > > chinette, chinous, whatever. A real stud has a dishwasher.
> >
> > Trust me when I tell you this:
> > Jack Schidt has a dishwasher!
> > And it's awesome!!!!
>
> Clue me in... what brand?

Jack Bosch - brand and sig

>
>
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Katra > wrote in message >...
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >
> > Katra > wrote in
> > :
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > ameijers wrote:
> > >>
> > >> "Becca" > wrote in message
> > >> ...
> > >> > > Hopefully they made you sterile; the next generation needs all
> > >> > > the culling it can get.
> > >> >
> > >> > A friend of mine was flipping his fried eggs in the kitchen.
> > >> > Something went wrong. One egg fell, it hit the cat on the top of
> > >> > the head. The cat is not sterile but she stays out of the kitchen,
> > >> > now.
> > >> >
> > >> > I wonder if this would work on kids...
> > >> >
> > >> Kids (and dogs) only get upset if the stuff that lands on them is
> > >> painfully hot. Other wise, it is a fun game. Cats are worried about
> > >> their dignity.
> > >>
> > >> aem sends....
> > >
> > > I see you have cats..... ;-D
> > >
> > > You may appreciate this one. One of my buddies sent this picture to me
> > > last night. The comments that went with it had something to do with it
> > > being football season and one too many margaritas, and one very
> > > pateint kitty!
> > >
> > > http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/Helmetkitty.jpg
> > >
> > > Don't look too dignified tho'. <G>
> > >
> > > K.
> > >
> >
> > I love that!
> >
> > Our late cat, Margaret, carried herself with the ultimate of dignity. We
> > once had a large Amish doll dressed in typical Amish atire. On more than
> > one occasion Margaret suffered through wearing a bonnet and apron, and
> > was surprisingly good-natured about it. Oh, how I wish we had pictures!
> >
> > Wayne
>
> Cats that let kids play "dress-up" with them are always a real treasure.
> :-) I have several cats. Wonderful little beasties...
>
> K.

Story from a Vet Friend:

Vet tech to man at office: Would you like a cat?
Man: No thanks, my freezer's full.

Greg Zywicki

>K. (the tree hugger and proud of it...)

I love trees, where else would we get boards? But I do recycle,
it's easy.

-Mike

Mike Marshall wrote:
>
> "Sam D." > writes:
> >I think you just got some really poor quality foam plates.
>
> I never considered the melt, but the little plastic steak knives
> cut right through the foam plates!
>
> -Mike

That's another reason I don't like foam plates.
They're fine if you're not eating anything you
have to cut up.
Kate
--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Geoff Miller wrote:
>
> Kate Connally > writes:
>
> > Generally, though I don't like to by foam plates because
> > they are not recyclable and are made from non-renewable
> > resources.
>
> What are you, some sort of hippie? Do you wear Brikenstocks
> and a smock made from hemp fiber?

Well, I used to be a week-end hippie. I lived in
the burbs and would go into Shadyside (the area of
Pittsburgh where the hippies used to hang out back
in the late 60's, early 70's) and hang with the
hippies at a local coffee house. I fondly remember
walking down Walnut St. and being accosted by hippies
saying, "Hey, man, got any spare change." Some of
my best friends were hippies.

However now I'm only semi-week-end hippie. I will
do the ecologically correct thing only when it's
not a PIA for me, or I'm required by law. ;-)

Seriously, though, I would probably use foam plates
if I felt they were the best and most convenient
thing for me, but I can feel virtuous shunning them
because I don't want to use them anyway due to their
inherent flaws.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

sf wrote:
>
> On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 17:14:23 -0600, Katra
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > sf wrote:
>
> > >
> > > I've seen them all and still fail to understand why cat
> > > lovers think virtually torturing the poor animal by giving
> > > them a stupid haircut (you KNOW it was on purpose, just to
> > > photograph) or plonking something they don't like on their
> > > head is funny.
> > >
> > > sf
> > > lover of cats AND dogs
> > >
> > > Practice safe eating - always use condiments
> >
> >
> > Most real cat lovers would not do that to their cats unless it was for
> > their health.... :-) I do have my persians bellies and rear ends shaved
> > as needed to prevent matts and dingleberries.
> >
> > I also shaved my shelties for the first time this summer, and they were
> > OH so much more active and happy! :-) They appreciated not having all
> > that heavy fur during the hot summer.
> >
> > I don't give my cats funny haircuts, but I don't see anything wrong with
> > dressing them funny, IF they are willing and cooperative! It's not all
> > that unusual for young kids to treat some cats like dolls.
> >
> > It's no more cruel than this was to this dog:
> >
> > http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/DogSunglasses.jpg
>
> I totally disagree. You can tell by the look on that dogs
> face that the sunglasses weren't there for more than a
> nanosecond than it took to take the picture.
> >
> > Where is your sense of humor if the animal is not being harmed???
> >
> I have absolutely no sense of humor when a cat or dog is
> being humiliated in that mannor.

That's far from humiliating. Dogs have a sense of humor.
He might have done it himself if he were able and had
thought of it. What's humiliating to dogs is things
like the haircut they give show poodles. I really
cringe when I watch a dog show and the poodle comes
out. (Sure, they might prance around like they're not
embarrasses as hell but they have to pretend to themselves
that they like it or go insane! At least that's my
take on it.)

Kate, who's had cats and dogs most of her way too long
life.

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

> wrote in message
...
> Being a bachelor, I use a lot of paper plates. Recently they had foam
> plates on sale, so I thought I'd give them a try. Well, they are
> horrible. Yesterday I fried some eggs, put them on the plate and they
> melted right thru. Today I made pancakes, put them on the foam plate
> and they melted thru, pouring syrup all down my clothing. Tomorrow I
> will return these plates to the store. Not only are they useless for
> hot foods, but I tend to wonder what harm that melted foam does when I
> eat it. I will never buy these again.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem, or are these just lousy plates?
>



I personally prefer Spode.

On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:48:44 -0500, Kate Connally
> wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > I have absolutely no sense of humor when a cat or dog is
> > being humiliated in that mannor.
>
> That's far from humiliating.

No way! That dog was photographed in the middle of grabbing
those sunglasses of her ass.

> Dogs have a sense of humor.

I agree!

> He might have done it himself if he were able and had
> thought of it.

Only if it was an inebriated Frat-Boy dog, which is a breed
onto itself.

> What's humiliating to dogs is things
> like the haircut they give show poodles. I really
> cringe when I watch a dog show and the poodle comes
> out. (Sure, they might prance around like they're not
> embarrasses as hell but they have to pretend to themselves
> that they like it or go insane! At least that's my
> take on it.)
>
> Kate, who's had cats and dogs most of her way too long
> life.

Different strokes for different folks.

I am a poodle person who would never do that stupid naked
rear end with the "poofs" on it to any animal... not even a
cat. How UGLY is that? Don't like the Dutch Cut much
better, but at least it's not as repulsive as the "other"
one.

I do like a modified "Lion" cut with what's called a
"saddle" on the rear end, but my ablolute favorite is what's
called a "puppy cut" on puppies (duh) or a Lamb cut on adult
dogs... and keep the hair length fairly short.



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On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:35:01 GMT, "Jack Schidt®"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> >
> > Clue me in... what brand?
>
> Jack Bosch - brand and sig
>
I knew I liked you for a reason! That's what I have too.

It allows kitchen conversations while the dishwasher is on.
Don't get me wrong! It's not dead silent (I don't have
hearing problems), but it's not obtrusive either.


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Nancy Young > writes:

> I'm not a hippie and I couldn't agree with her more.


Yeah, and you probably voted for Gore. too.

*spit*



Geoff

--
If God were a liberal, we'd
have the Ten Suggestions.

Geoff Miller wrote:
>
> Nancy Young > writes:
>
> > I'm not a hippie and I couldn't agree with her more.
>
> Yeah, and you probably voted for Gore. too.
>
> *spit*
>
> Geoff

Excuse me?????

nancy

Nancy Young > writes:

> Excuse me?????


Why? Did you expel flatus?



Geoff

--
If God were a liberal, we'd
have the Ten Suggestions.

Geoff Miller wrote:
>
> Nancy Young > writes:
>
> > Excuse me?????
>
> Why? Did you expel flatus?
>
> Geoff

No, then it would be, excuse ME!

Grow some reading skills.

nancy

Geoff Miller wrote:
>
> Nancy Young > writes:
>
> > I'm not a hippie and I couldn't agree with her more.
>
> Yeah, and you probably voted for Gore. too.
>
> *spit*
>
> Geoff
>

And you did not...
Aren't you regretting that by now??? ;-D

K.

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Katra'inka writes:

>Geoff Lewinsky wrote:
>>
>> Nancy Young writes:
>>
>> > I'm not a hippie and I couldn't agree with her more.
>>
>> Yeah, and you probably voted for Gore. too.
>>
>> *spit*
>>
>> Geoff Lewinsky
>>
>
>And you did not...
>Aren't you regretting that by now??? ;-D

Actually Geoff Lewisky voted under Gore's desk.


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Katra > writes:

: Yeah, and you probably voted for Gore. too.

> And you did not...
> Aren't you regretting that by now??? ;-D


Hell, no. I plan to vote for Dubya again in
2004. Quite honestly, I think he's the best
president we've had since Reagan.

If Gore had been president when 9/11 happened,
he'd probably have been slinking around the
geopolitical stage apologizing to everybody
in sight.



Geoff

--
"Why _not_ go to war just for oil?" -- Ann Coulter

Geoff Miller wrote:
>
> Katra > writes:
>
> : Yeah, and you probably voted for Gore. too.
>
> > And you did not...
> > Aren't you regretting that by now??? ;-D
>
> Hell, no. I plan to vote for Dubya again in
> 2004. Quite honestly, I think he's the best
> president we've had since Reagan.

Ok, I liked Reagan. He stabilized our economy...
WTF has Dubya done for us lately other than get
us in hot water with the rest of the world?

IMHO he's a ****tard! :-P
And a puppet.

>
> If Gore had been president when 9/11 happened,
> he'd probably have been slinking around the
> geopolitical stage apologizing to everybody
> in sight.
>
> Geoff

What makes you think that?

>
> --
> "Why _not_ go to war just for oil?" -- Ann Coulter

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On 12 Dec 2003 09:42:04 -0800, (Geoff Miller)
wrote:

>
>
>Katra > writes:
>
>: Yeah, and you probably voted for Gore. too.
>
>> And you did not...
>> Aren't you regretting that by now??? ;-D
>
>
>Hell, no. I plan to vote for Dubya again in
>2004. Quite honestly, I think he's the best
>president we've had since Reagan.
>
>If Gore had been president when 9/11 happened,
>he'd probably have been slinking around the
>geopolitical stage apologizing to everybody
>in sight.
>
>Geoff
and you base this speculation on what?

your pal,
blake

COTTP wrote:
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> >
> > zxcvbob wrote:
> > >
> > > Jack Schidt® wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Let's back up a moment and discuss this bachelor thang....
> > > >
> > > > Paper plates are for peons. They're for situations where a buncha drunks
> > > > are around and you don't want to sweep up fragments of gramma's chinelle,
> > > > chinette, chinous, whatever. A real stud has a dishwasher. Doesn't hafta
> > > > be anything fancy, just something that you can wash real dishes in. I'm
> > > > sure we'll get chided for this appliance minded thing but just let that roll
> > > > off your back; this is the bachelor hour and we don't need a buncha
> > > > handwringing over handwashing. Handwashing dishes sucks, not to mention
> > > > dishwashers get dishes cleaner and use less water and electricity.
> > >
> > > Dishwasher? That's what the *dog* is for...
> >
> > ROFL!!!
> > I was amazed one day when the "princess" at work admitted that she used
> > her dogs as the initial cleaning for her roasting pans. :-) I do too. It
> > makes final washup much easier if you did not deglaze your pan for some
> > reason. <G>
> >
> > And the dogs enjoy it immensely.
>
> Around here there aren't any dogs, but there are cats. Yes, cat in
> plural form.
>
> The measure of whether or not a dish is good is if the cats hound you
> while you're cooking it. If there isn't' a cat wrapping itself around
> your ankles and meowing loudly you can be relatively sure the dish is
> going to suck.
>
> And clean up - lick, lick, lick. Then into 170F hot water to wash.
>
> > > You've got me curious though, how you can say a dishwasher uses less
> > > electricity than washing by hand.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Bob
> >
> > I wonder about that too.
> > I have a "dish washer", it's called a sink, sink drainer and a pair of
> > hands. :-)
>
> A dishwasher does NOT save energy per se. In it's case there is the
> energy necessary to heat the water, and the energy necessary to run the
> mechanicals of the machine.

And your proof???
I can use the excersize frankly. :-)

>
> But then washing dishes by hand requires the energy to heat the water to
> the temperature you desire as well as work on your part.

I use Dawn in the sink water and cold to rinse.
Energy waste??? Only mine, and I need it. <G>

>
> The work on your part is nourished by the food you eat. There's energy
> necessary on your part (more work!) to prepare and eat the food as well
> as digest it. But then take into account all the energy that went into
> getting the food to you. (Growing it, packing, shipping, etc.)
>
> So in the long run - maybe the dishwasher is more energy efficient.

Ungh, no, I think not. Humans are getting fatter and fatter.
We need to "burn" all the energy we can. <G>

K.

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>From: Katra

>I use Dawn in the sink water and cold to rinse.

ACK! Can I convince you to use Seventh Generation dish soap? Comes in a fresh
apple scent or fragrance free. *grin*

Ellen

SportKite1 wrote:
>
> >From: Katra
>
> >I use Dawn in the sink water and cold to rinse.
>
> ACK! Can I convince you to use Seventh Generation dish soap? Comes in a fresh
> apple scent or fragrance free. *grin*
>
> Ellen

I'm always game to new things... :-)
Where does one purchase that brand?

I use Dawn (for now) as it rilly cuts the grease monster. <G>

K.

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"SportKite1" > wrote in message
...
> >From: Katra
>
> >I use Dawn in the sink water and cold to rinse.
>
> ACK! Can I convince you to use Seventh Generation dish soap? Comes in a
fresh
> apple scent or fragrance free. *grin*
>
> Ellen
>
>

I use Ecover in the dishwasher; it gets stuff clean and I'm not dumping the
bad shit in my groundwater. I'm off the water grid and am keeping it clean
for me and my neighbors. Those 'green' detergents have come a long way; the
orange stuff I use to clean the grease and grime is good too. I can compost
the paper towels I clean with.

Jack Eco Echo

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:12:04 -0600, Katra >
wrote:

>COTTP wrote:

>> A dishwasher does NOT save energy per se. In it's case there is the
>> energy necessary to heat the water, and the energy necessary to run the
>> mechanicals of the machine.
>
>And your proof???
>I can use the excersize frankly. :-)

I think someone convinced me an efficient dishwasher uses less water
than hand-washing, 'though I'm not sure about energy, considering
secondary heating. Dishwashing is about the only housekeeping chore
I don't mind -- it makes a visible difference, unlike dusting and most
other cleaning -- and it gets my hands really clean. :-)

>From: "Jack Schidt®"

>I use Ecover in the dishwasher; it gets stuff clean and I'm not dumping the
>bad shit in my groundwater. I'm off the water grid and am keeping it clean
>for me and my neighbors. Those 'green' detergents have come a long way; the
>orange stuff I use to clean the grease and grime is good too. I can compost
>the paper towels I clean with.
>
>Jack Eco Echo

Very cool Jack. Yet another reason to adore you. Ecover, Seventh Generation and
Earth Rite HAVE indeed come a long way. Green products that actually work. What
a concept!

Katra, you can get any of these at your local Health Food store and some
Stupidmarkets that have Greenwise sections.

Ellen

Frogleg wrote:
>
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:12:04 -0600, Katra >
> wrote:
>
> >COTTP wrote:
>
> >> A dishwasher does NOT save energy per se. In it's case there is the
> >> energy necessary to heat the water, and the energy necessary to run the
> >> mechanicals of the machine.
> >
> >And your proof???
> >I can use the excersize frankly. :-)
>
> I think someone convinced me an efficient dishwasher uses less water
> than hand-washing, 'though I'm not sure about energy, considering
> secondary heating. Dishwashing is about the only housekeeping chore
> I don't mind -- it makes a visible difference, unlike dusting and most
> other cleaning -- and it gets my hands really clean. :-)

And the fingernails..... <G>

K.

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"Goomba38" > wrote in message
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> wrote:
>
> > Being a bachelor, I use a lot of paper plates. Recently they had foam
> > plates on sale, so I thought I'd give them a try.
>
> How hard is it to wash one plate? Think of the savings, think of the
> improved dining experience? Think of the world less more waste in the
> landfills? Geesh....

Maybe he thinks only women should wash dishes.
MJ