On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:53:54 -0500, wrote:

> Omelet > wrote:
>
>> I can get a 16 oz. package of cooked crawfish tails at HEB
>> (meat only, no shells). I wonder how it'd go as a rangoon
>> recipe? ;-d
>
> Probably imported chinese crawfish too. Blech!

Some of those frozen brands at HEB are pretty decent. But none of
the HEB's stock the same brands. I shop every HEB from Parmar to
Slaughter and there is no consistent brand of vacuum-packed crawfish
tails package.

ObFood: I'm eating pulpo ceviche:

Recipe:
Bag of cooked pulpo (1lb), an 11.5oz can of drained Rotel (the juice
pressed and drank separately), two shots each of Girards Ceasar and
Champagne dressings, smoked paprika, finely diced onion, and a tsp
of Herbs de provance (discovered by Herve Villachez, BTW*) and
marinated for 18 hours.

This is extremely edible at $5/lb made at home. But It's not
something you bring to a pot-luck unless you really have a death-
wish from every Hate Group and nationality on the planet.

Not to mention those chicks from accounting upstairs who keep
telling me I'm Hot. I get that [tssst! OUCH!] at least 8
times day as they touch my butt. They like my hands, but not
octopus.

-sw

(*) WhaT?

Steve wrote:

> ObFood: I'm eating pulpo ceviche:
>
> Recipe:
> Bag of cooked pulpo (1lb), an 11.5oz can of drained Rotel (the juice
> pressed and drank separately), two shots each of Girards Ceasar and
> Champagne dressings, smoked paprika, finely diced onion, and a tsp
> of Herbs de provance (discovered by Herve Villachez, BTW*) and
> marinated for 18 hours.

Since you started with cooked octopus, in what way is that recipe ceviche?
It's more of a marinated octopus salad.

Bob

In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:53:54 -0500, wrote:
>
> > Omelet > wrote:
> >
> >> I can get a 16 oz. package of cooked crawfish tails at HEB
> >> (meat only, no shells). I wonder how it'd go as a rangoon
> >> recipe? ;-d
> >
> > Probably imported chinese crawfish too. Blech!
>
> Some of those frozen brands at HEB are pretty decent. But none of
> the HEB's stock the same brands. I shop every HEB from Parmar to
> Slaughter and there is no consistent brand of vacuum-packed crawfish
> tails package.

I don't recall the brand name but I'll check next time I go to the big
HEB here. (We have two in town and the smaller one is closer to my house
and stocks most basic stuff I need)

I have used them in recipes and they are good for that. A bit salty imho
if you try to eat them as a stand alone entree dipped in lemon butter.
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It's about learning to dance in the rain.
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In article >,
"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote:

> > I don't recall the brand name but I'll check next time I go to the big
> > HEB here. (We have two in town and the smaller one is closer to my house
> > and stocks most basic stuff I need)
> >
> > I have used them in recipes and they are good for that. A bit salty imho
> > if you try to eat them as a stand alone entree dipped in lemon butter.
>
> Im not sure if you are looking for suggestions?

I'm always open to suggestions. :-)

>
> A few years ago i was at the sisters place in Oregon, i took my copy of
> La Guide Culinaire with me and spent a wonderful week in the kitchen.
> She has a trout stream on the property that just teems with crawdaddies
> (crayfish). When i was a child i had an uncle who would pay us kids a
> penny per crawfish to catch them for him and i remember me mum making
> stews from them and uncle Al liking them with just butter and lemon.

Fresh Crawfish rule. You were very fortunate!

>
> Here's a few recipe names from Le Guide Culinaire, if your interested in
> any further explanation you might be able to google the names or just
> let me know.
>
> Ecrevisses - Crayfish
>
> Ecrevisse a la Bordelaise
> Ecrevisse en Buisson
> Coquilles de Ques d'Ecrevisses Cardinal
> Ecrevisses a la Liegeoise
> Ecrevisses a la Magenta, a la Mariniere
> Ecrevisses a la Nage
> Souffle d'Ecrevisses a la Florentine
> Supreme d'Ecrevisses au Champagne
> --
> Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

I'd have to google those. <g>
I am so not into French cooking.
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Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
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In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Sqwertz > wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:53:54 -0500, wrote:
> >>
> >>> Omelet > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I can get a 16 oz. package of cooked crawfish tails at HEB
> >>>> (meat only, no shells). I wonder how it'd go as a rangoon
> >>>> recipe? ;-d
> >>> Probably imported chinese crawfish too. Blech!
> >> Some of those frozen brands at HEB are pretty decent. But none of
> >> the HEB's stock the same brands. I shop every HEB from Parmar to
> >> Slaughter and there is no consistent brand of vacuum-packed crawfish
> >> tails package.
> >
> > I don't recall the brand name but I'll check next time I go to the big
> > HEB here. (We have two in town and the smaller one is closer to my house
> > and stocks most basic stuff I need)
> >
> > I have used them in recipes and they are good for that. A bit salty imho
> > if you try to eat them as a stand alone entree dipped in lemon butter.
> Y'all should be able to get Texas grown mudbug tails, they're grown all
> over SE Texas. Of course the locals may be eating them all so they don't
> ship. Mauriceville, TX used to have an annual Crawfish Festival, haven't
> been by there in several years so don't know if they still do.
>
> Crawfish are very expensive around here this year and the season is
> pretty much over now. Be aware that the imported Chinese crawfish tails
> have caused problems in the past and Louisiana has banned them here.

I can sometimes get the live for around $2.00 per lb.
There are also some in the river here (I've seen them during night
snorkeling sometimes) but not nearly enough to make a meal out of.
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
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In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > I don't recall the brand name but I'll check next time I go to the big
> > HEB here. (We have two in town and the smaller one is closer to my house
> > and stocks most basic stuff I need)
> >
> > I have used them in recipes and they are good for that. A bit salty imho
> > if you try to eat them as a stand alone entree dipped in lemon butter.
>
> I toss with smoked paprika and pepper and then toss in rice flour or corn
> starch for a few minutes, then deep fry for 2-3 minutes. Popcorn crawfish
> tails. Very tsaty.
>
> -sw

Ooh! I've not tried deep frying them and had not thought of it.

Thanks! :-d
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It's about learning to dance in the rain.
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Omelet wrote:
> I don't recall the brand name but I'll check next time I go to the big
> HEB here. (We have two in town and the smaller one is closer to my house
> and stocks most basic stuff I need)
>
> I have used them in recipes and they are good for that. A bit salty imho
> if you try to eat them as a stand alone entree dipped in lemon butter.
>

When I use frozen crawfish tails, I will bring water to a boil, add the
crawfish, and as soon as the water comes back to a boil, I drain them.
Then, chill them in an ice bath to keep them from overcooking. I never
use frozen crawfish right out of the bag.

Becca

In article >,
Becca > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > I don't recall the brand name but I'll check next time I go to the big
> > HEB here. (We have two in town and the smaller one is closer to my house
> > and stocks most basic stuff I need)
> >
> > I have used them in recipes and they are good for that. A bit salty imho
> > if you try to eat them as a stand alone entree dipped in lemon butter.
> >
>
> When I use frozen crawfish tails, I will bring water to a boil, add the
> crawfish, and as soon as the water comes back to a boil, I drain them.
> Then, chill them in an ice bath to keep them from overcooking. I never
> use frozen crawfish right out of the bag.
>
> Becca

Good way to get the salt out I suppose. ;-)
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Peace! Om

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It's about learning to dance in the rain.
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> George Shirley > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:53:54 -0500, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Omelet > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can get a 16 oz. package of cooked crawfish tails at HEB
>>>>>> (meat only, no shells). I wonder how it'd go as a rangoon
>>>>>> recipe? ;-d
>>>>> Probably imported chinese crawfish too. Blech!
>>>> Some of those frozen brands at HEB are pretty decent. But none of
>>>> the HEB's stock the same brands. I shop every HEB from Parmar to
>>>> Slaughter and there is no consistent brand of vacuum-packed crawfish
>>>> tails package.
>>> I don't recall the brand name but I'll check next time I go to the big
>>> HEB here. (We have two in town and the smaller one is closer to my house
>>> and stocks most basic stuff I need)
>>>
>>> I have used them in recipes and they are good for that. A bit salty imho
>>> if you try to eat them as a stand alone entree dipped in lemon butter.
>> Y'all should be able to get Texas grown mudbug tails, they're grown all
>> over SE Texas. Of course the locals may be eating them all so they don't
>> ship. Mauriceville, TX used to have an annual Crawfish Festival, haven't
>> been by there in several years so don't know if they still do.
>>
>> Crawfish are very expensive around here this year and the season is
>> pretty much over now. Be aware that the imported Chinese crawfish tails
>> have caused problems in the past and Louisiana has banned them here.
>
> I can sometimes get the live for around $2.00 per lb.
> There are also some in the river here (I've seen them during night
> snorkeling sometimes) but not nearly enough to make a meal out of.
About a pound a year is my limit on eating crawfish, I'm still and old
Texas boy and those things were bait when I was a kid. Best catfish bait
I ever used. Used to catch a bucket full, bait the trot line and run it
occasionally during the night. The rest of the time we would sit around
the fire, drink coffee, and tell lies about all the fish we caught.

In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> > I can sometimes get the live for around $2.00 per lb.
> > There are also some in the river here (I've seen them during night
> > snorkeling sometimes) but not nearly enough to make a meal out of.
>
> About a pound a year is my limit on eating crawfish, I'm still and old
> Texas boy and those things were bait when I was a kid. Best catfish bait
> I ever used. Used to catch a bucket full, bait the trot line and run it
> occasionally during the night. The rest of the time we would sit around
> the fire, drink coffee, and tell lies about all the fish we caught.

<lol> I generally use chunks of beef liver for catfish bait. :-)
Much cheaper than crawfish!

There are many that consider shrimp to be fish bait too, but it's my #1
favorite food...

I'm going to pick up a nice salmon fillet for fathers day for dad in the
morning. Grill it with Dillweed and Oranges, then serve it with saute'd
shrimp that were on sale this week at HEB, (really big ones!) and some
BBQ'd pork loin. I've not decided on a veggie yet. Probably steamed
"baby" carrots and some steamed broccoli as those are dad's two favorite
veggies.
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Peace! Om

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It's about learning to dance in the rain.
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On Jun 19, 1:48*pm, "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." >
wrote:
> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > *Sqwertz > wrote:
>
> >>On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:53:54 -0500, wrote:
>
> >>>Omelet > wrote:
>
> >>>>I can get a 16 oz. package of cooked crawfish tails at HEB
> >>>>(meat only, no shells). *I wonder how it'd go as a rangoon
> >>>>recipe? ;-d
>
> >>>Probably imported chinese crawfish too. Blech!
>
> >>Some of those frozen brands at HEB are pretty decent. *But none of
> >>the HEB's stock the same brands. *I shop every HEB from Parmar to
> >>Slaughter and there is no consistent brand of vacuum-packed crawfish
> >>tails package.
>
> > I don't recall the brand name but I'll check next time I go to the big
> > HEB here. (We have two in town and the smaller one is closer to my house
> > and stocks most basic stuff I need)
>
> > I have used them in recipes and they are good for that. A bit salty imho
> > if you try to eat them as a stand alone entree dipped in lemon butter.
>
> Im not sure if you are looking for suggestions?
>
> A few years ago i was at the sisters place in Oregon, i took my copy of
> La Guide Culinaire with me and spent a wonderful week in the kitchen.
> She has a trout stream on the property that just teems with crawdaddies
> (crayfish). *When i was a child i had an uncle who would pay us kids a
> penny per crawfish to catch them for him and i remember me mum making
> stews from them and uncle Al liking them with just butter and lemon.
>
Have you ever read "Trout Fishing in America"?
> --
> Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
>
--Bryan

On Jun 19, 1:08*pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article >,
>
> *Sqwertz > wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:53:54 -0500, wrote:
>
> > > Omelet > wrote:
>
> > >> I can get a 16 oz. package of cooked crawfish tails at HEB
> > >> (meat only, no shells). *I wonder how it'd go as a rangoon
> > >> recipe? ;-d
>
> > > Probably imported chinese crawfish too. Blech!
>
> > Some of those frozen brands at HEB are pretty decent. *But none of
> > the HEB's stock the same brands. *I shop every HEB from Parmar to
> > Slaughter and there is no consistent brand of vacuum-packed crawfish
> > tails package.
>
> I don't recall the brand name but I'll check next time I go to the big
> HEB here. (We have two in town and the smaller one is closer to my house
> and stocks most basic stuff I need)
>
> I have used them in recipes and they are good for that. A bit salty imho
> if you try to eat them as a stand alone entree dipped in lemon butter.

If you get the tails, there are no heads to suck.
> --
> Peace! Om
>
--Bryan, Honorary Coonass

Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> On Jun 19, 1:48*pm, "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." wrote:


>>When i was a child i had an uncle who would pay us kids a
>>penny per crawfish to catch them for him and i remember me mum making
>>stews from them and uncle Al liking them with just butter and lemon.
>>
>
> Have you ever read "Trout Fishing in America"?
>

Nope, its been recommended to me before though.

I didn't think much of Walton's "The Complete Angler" or "Zen and the
Art of Motorcycle Maintenance." And Kerouacks "On the Road" was only
slightly better.

--
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
http://www.dancingmice.net/Karn%20Evil%209.mp3

On Jun 19, 11:08*pm, "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." >
wrote:
> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> > On Jun 19, 1:48*pm, "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." wrote:
> >>When i was a child i had an uncle who would pay us kids a
> >>penny per crawfish to catch them for him and i remember me mum making
> >>stews from them and uncle Al liking them with just butter and lemon.
>
> > Have you ever read "Trout Fishing in America"?
>
> Nope, its been recommended to me before though.
>
> I didn't think much of Walton's "The Complete Angler" or "Zen and the
> Art of Motorcycle Maintenance." *And Kerouacks "On the Road" was only
> slightly better.

I feel that way about those too. Truthfully, Trout Fishing in America
is not Brautigan's best stuff. His writing is very unique. You might
think it's crappy.
One nice thing is that you can read him for free at most public
libraries. The pick book is, IMO, So the Wind Won't Blow it All Away:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0385292872/?tag=onegoodmove-20
I think that it's one of the best American short novels. A long
American novel that I'll mention is Little, Big:
http://www.amazon.com/Little-Big-Joh.../dp/0060937939

Don't read the synopses, just order a used copy or get it at your
library. It is a masterpiece.

If you've read Engine Summer:
http://www.amazon.com/Engine-Summer-.../dp/0553233602
and thought, "Another pretty good--or merely fairly good--future
fiction," then Little, Big will be a joy. It won the World Fantasy
Award, and was a nominee for both a Hugo and a Nebula.

>
> --
> Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

--Bryan

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> George Shirley > wrote:
>
>>> I can sometimes get the live for around $2.00 per lb.
>>> There are also some in the river here (I've seen them during night
>>> snorkeling sometimes) but not nearly enough to make a meal out of.
>> About a pound a year is my limit on eating crawfish, I'm still and old
>> Texas boy and those things were bait when I was a kid. Best catfish bait
>> I ever used. Used to catch a bucket full, bait the trot line and run it
>> occasionally during the night. The rest of the time we would sit around
>> the fire, drink coffee, and tell lies about all the fish we caught.
>
> <lol> I generally use chunks of beef liver for catfish bait. :-)
> Much cheaper than crawfish!
Get some pork liver and leave it out in the sun for a few hours, makes
an excellent stink bait for catfish.
>
> There are many that consider shrimp to be fish bait too, but it's my #1
> favorite food...

We use bait shrimp, they're smaller than eating size. Different license
required for catching bait shrimp than for eating shrimp.
>
> I'm going to pick up a nice salmon fillet for fathers day for dad in the
> morning. Grill it with Dillweed and Oranges, then serve it with saute'd
> shrimp that were on sale this week at HEB, (really big ones!) and some
> BBQ'd pork loin. I've not decided on a veggie yet. Probably steamed
> "baby" carrots and some steamed broccoli as those are dad's two favorite
> veggies.

I wish we could get decent salmon here, all that is available in "fresh"
is very anemic looking and the rest is frozen.

My daughter and SIL are coming over from Houston tomorrow, we will have
smoked pork ribs, acorn squash, new potatoes with home grown green
beans, and a fresh loaf of bread (SIL loves my homemade bread), dessert
will be Hello Dolly bars. Then they will go home again and we can rest.

Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. wrote:


> I didn't think much of Walton's "The Complete Angler" or "Zen and the
> Art of Motorcycle Maintenance." And Kerouacks "On the Road" was only
> slightly better.

I didn't like any of the above, although I was told that I was supposed to.

I read through Hemmingway's stuff by the time I was 10 - it was in the
living room bookcase. At that point, nobody had told me what ultimately
became of the man. Based on his writing alone, I thought that there was
something seriously wrong with him. I was right. Don't even get me
started on Salinger...

I am an insatiable, omnivorous reader. Put it in ink, leave it where I
can reach it and it will get read. But I always wonder why some things
wind up deemed "classics", how they end up as required reading in high
school or college? Who decides these things?

Personally, I would get naked for Mark Twain or Terry Pratchett
(assuming the one wasn't dead and the other afflicted with rapid onset
Alzheimer's).

Kathleen wrote:
> Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. wrote:
>
>
>> I didn't think much of Walton's "The Complete Angler" or "Zen and the
>> Art of Motorcycle Maintenance." And Kerouacks "On the Road" was only
>> slightly better.
>
> I didn't like any of the above, although I was told that I was supposed
> to.
> I read through Hemmingway's stuff by the time I was 10 - it was in the
> living room bookcase. At that point, nobody had told me what ultimately
> became of the man. Based on his writing alone, I thought that there was
> something seriously wrong with him. I was right. Don't even get me
> started on Salinger...
>
> I am an insatiable, omnivorous reader. Put it in ink, leave it where I
> can reach it and it will get read. But I always wonder why some things
> wind up deemed "classics", how they end up as required reading in high
> school or college? Who decides these things?
>
> Personally, I would get naked for Mark Twain or Terry Pratchett
> (assuming the one wasn't dead and the other afflicted with rapid onset
> Alzheimer's).

Then you'd also might like to try Tom Sharpe and Douglas Adams.

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

Michael Kuettner wrote:

> Kathleen wrote:
>
>>Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I didn't think much of Walton's "The Complete Angler" or "Zen and the
>>>Art of Motorcycle Maintenance." And Kerouacks "On the Road" was only
>>>slightly better.
>>
>>I didn't like any of the above, although I was told that I was supposed
>>to.
>>I read through Hemmingway's stuff by the time I was 10 - it was in the
>>living room bookcase. At that point, nobody had told me what ultimately
>>became of the man. Based on his writing alone, I thought that there was
>>something seriously wrong with him. I was right. Don't even get me
>>started on Salinger...
>>
>>I am an insatiable, omnivorous reader. Put it in ink, leave it where I
>>can reach it and it will get read. But I always wonder why some things
>>wind up deemed "classics", how they end up as required reading in high
>>school or college? Who decides these things?
>>
>>Personally, I would get naked for Mark Twain or Terry Pratchett
>>(assuming the one wasn't dead and the other afflicted with rapid onset
>>Alzheimer's).
>
>
> Then you'd also might like to try Tom Sharpe and Douglas Adams.

Been there, done that.

Kathleen wrote:
> Michael Kuettner wrote:
>
>> Kathleen wrote:
>>
>>> Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I didn't think much of Walton's "The Complete Angler" or "Zen and the
>>>> Art of Motorcycle Maintenance." And Kerouacks "On the Road" was only
>>>> slightly better.
>>>
>>> I didn't like any of the above, although I was told that I was supposed
>>> to.
>>> I read through Hemmingway's stuff by the time I was 10 - it was in the
>>> living room bookcase. At that point, nobody had told me what
>>> ultimately became of the man. Based on his writing alone, I thought
>>> that there was something seriously wrong with him. I was right. Don't
>>> even get me started on Salinger...
>>>
>>> I am an insatiable, omnivorous reader. Put it in ink, leave it where I
>>> can reach it and it will get read. But I always wonder why some things
>>> wind up deemed "classics", how they end up as required reading in high
>>> school or college? Who decides these things?
>>>
>>> Personally, I would get naked for Mark Twain or Terry Pratchett
>>> (assuming the one wasn't dead and the other afflicted with rapid onset
>>> Alzheimer's).
>>
>>
>> Then you'd also might like to try Tom Sharpe and Douglas Adams.
>
> Been there, done that.

Robert Rankin ?

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

Omelet wrote:



>> When I use frozen crawfish tails, I will bring water to a boil, add the
>> crawfish, and as soon as the water comes back to a boil, I drain them.
>> Then, chill them in an ice bath to keep them from overcooking. I never
>> use frozen crawfish right out of the bag.
>>
>> Becca
>>
>
> Good way to get the salt out I suppose. ;-)
>

Om, I am not sure why we do it, but that is what the Cajuns taught me.
Another method is to put the crawfish tails in a colander and pour
boiling water over them.


Becca

Kathleen wrote:
> Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. wrote:
>
>
>> I didn't think much of Walton's "The Complete Angler" or "Zen and the
>> Art of Motorcycle Maintenance." And Kerouacks "On the Road" was only
>> slightly better.
>
>
> I didn't like any of the above, although I was told that I was supposed to.
>
> I read through Hemmingway's stuff by the time I was 10 - it was in the
> living room bookcase. At that point, nobody had told me what ultimately
> became of the man. Based on his writing alone, I thought that there was
> something seriously wrong with him. I was right. Don't even get me
> started on Salinger...

I never found a Hemmingway story that i actually enjoyed reading. But
im very fond of Norman Mailer, his "Ancient Evenings" is a favorite and
i think his Harlots Ghost very underrated.

A lot of male writers works are so fraught with heterosexual angst that
i find them utterly boring, the exception being The Rosy Crucifixion by
Henry Miller. His hetrosexism is as boring as any other guy's but
beautifully written, very nostalgia inducing now a days.

>
> I am an insatiable, omnivorous reader.

Me too, i joke about being an Bibliomanic but its probly closer to truth
than any joke.

> Put it in ink, leave it where I
> can reach it and it will get read. But I always wonder why some things
> wind up deemed "classics", how they end up as required reading in high
> school or college? Who decides these things?

Committees?

>
> Personally, I would get naked for Mark Twain or Terry Pratchett
> (assuming the one wasn't dead and the other afflicted with rapid onset
> Alzheimer's).
>

There are lots of authors i could mention, and various works i could
recommend, Dune by Herbert is probly my favorite Sci Fi novel, but
Adiamante by Modieste is about tied with it. It has its own Wiki page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adiamante

The Catch Trap by Marion Zimmer Bradley is a nonhetrosexist love story.
With, at the risk of being a spoiler, a 'happy ending.'

Gone With the Wind by Margaret Mitchell i consider very well written.
The Ghormenghast Trilogy by Mervyn Peake - "the immemorial stones
brooding in umbra" is just about the finest use of the English language
that i have seen.

Im very fond of reading biography and history, Longfords life of Queen
Victoria is a favorite. And while i would not recommend any of my
favorite authors works (though i could point out some poetry if your
interested), i would recommend his autobiography for the pleasure of a
very colorful and eccentric tale, "The Confessions of Aleister Crowley",
an "Autohagiography" the man could write, he just has a reputation for
writing what most people consider irrelevancies.
His lifestyle created a reputation that hovers over his writings,
obscuring them from a more general notice.

Even some of his technical writings that i wont mention by name are
superb, but because of the reputation he successfully cultivated as a
'bad boy' are little read to day, and even less, discussed seriously.

And don't even get me started on 'cook books' im the type that can read
a cook book for fun

Hmmmm.....theres an unofficial RFC web site, maybe there should be an
unofficial RFC "Book Club"?

With books and reading im like the French and their peas in the time of
the court of Louis XIV at Versailles (ever read the memoirs of the Duc
de Saint Simone? the letters of Mdm. de Servigny (sp?).

I love talking about them, thinking about them, discussing them,
regretting ones already 'consumed' and eagerly anticipating new ...
course one time i saw a list of signs that would indicate if your child
is on drugs and while i don't remember the specific details i do
remember 9 out of 10 of the signs of drug addiction i could apply to
myself about books, i have been known to spend excessive amounts of
money on them, prefer the books to real people, get depressed and with
drawn when i don't have books, get manic if i think im going to get
books & etc. etc. etc.
they have never induced suicidal tendencies in me but then i have never
been seriously deprived of them either
--
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
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"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in message
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>
>
> Kathleen wrote:
>> Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I didn't think much of Walton's "The Complete Angler" or "Zen and the
>>> Art of Motorcycle Maintenance." And Kerouacks "On the Road" was only
>>> slightly better.
>>
>>
>> I didn't like any of the above, although I was told that I was supposed
>> to.
>>
>> I read through Hemmingway's stuff by the time I was 10 - it was in the
>> living room bookcase. At that point, nobody had told me what ultimately
>> became of the man. Based on his writing alone, I thought that there was
>> something seriously wrong with him. I was right. Don't even get me
>> started on Salinger...
>
> I never found a Hemmingway story that i actually enjoyed reading. But im
> very fond of Norman Mailer, his "Ancient Evenings" is a favorite

Sheldon Toad would love it. As I recall from reading it over 20 years ago,
Mailer fixated on fellatio. In an Ancient Egypt setting.

"Peter Principle" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:49:35 -0700 (PDT), Bobo Bonobo®
> >
> wrote:
>
>>On Jun 19, 11:08 pm, "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." >
>>wrote:
>>> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>>> > On Jun 19, 1:48 pm, "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." wrote:
>>> >>When i was a child i had an uncle who would pay us kids a
>>> >>penny per crawfish to catch them for him and i remember me mum making
>>> >>stews from them and uncle Al liking them with just butter and lemon.
>>>
>>> > Have you ever read "Trout Fishing in America"?
>>>
>>> Nope, its been recommended to me before though.
>>>
>>> I didn't think much of Walton's "The Complete Angler" or "Zen and the
>>> Art of Motorcycle Maintenance." And Kerouacks "On the Road" was only
>>> slightly better.
>>
>>I feel that way about those too. Truthfully, Trout Fishing in America
>>is not Brautigan's best stuff.
>
> <snip>
>
> It is, however, some of his most entertaining stuff. Brautigan isn't
> generally feted as a comic writer, but there's some laugh out loud
> passages
> in Fishing.
>
> When I lived in The City I was lucky enough to hang out with Brautigan at
> a
> weird little place in the Haight called Persian Aub Zam Zam, IIRC, which
> is
> a story in and of itself. This was probably '84. He'd come in looking like
> a
> street corner bum, order a toonie and stare into it until it was empty,
> then
> order another.
>
> The first time I ran into him I don't remember how we got into a
> conversation, but we ended up talking for more than an hour. After he left
> the bartender told me he'd never seen him say more than two words before.
> I
> commented that not many bums drink straight up toonies. That's when he
> told
> me the bum was Brautigan.
>
> Drank vodka martinis with him several afternoons/week for a couple of
> months. He was crusty, weird and iconoclastic, but he was also hilarious
> and, under his prickly exterior, a genuinely sweet guy. Too damn bad he
> did
> the Hemingway thing.
>
> Anyway, I loved Trout Fishing, though I agree, there's better Brautigan.

Brautigan. What a lightweight.

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>,
Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:

> On Jun 19, 1:08*pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > In article >,
> >
> > *Sqwertz > wrote:
> > > On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:53:54 -0500, wrote:
> >
> > > > Omelet > wrote:
> >
> > > >> I can get a 16 oz. package of cooked crawfish tails at HEB
> > > >> (meat only, no shells). *I wonder how it'd go as a rangoon
> > > >> recipe? ;-d
> >
> > > > Probably imported chinese crawfish too. Blech!
> >
> > > Some of those frozen brands at HEB are pretty decent. *But none of
> > > the HEB's stock the same brands. *I shop every HEB from Parmar to
> > > Slaughter and there is no consistent brand of vacuum-packed crawfish
> > > tails package.
> >
> > I don't recall the brand name but I'll check next time I go to the big
> > HEB here. (We have two in town and the smaller one is closer to my house
> > and stocks most basic stuff I need)
> >
> > I have used them in recipes and they are good for that. A bit salty imho
> > if you try to eat them as a stand alone entree dipped in lemon butter.
>
> If you get the tails, there are no heads to suck.
>
> --Bryan, Honorary Coonass

That's a bonass. <g>

I do NOT suck crawdad guts! <shudders and gags>
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In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> > <lol> I generally use chunks of beef liver for catfish bait. :-)
> > Much cheaper than crawfish!
>
> Get some pork liver and leave it out in the sun for a few hours, makes
> an excellent stink bait for catfish.

Sounds worth a shot next time I hit Canyon lake for catfish, thanks!

> >
> > There are many that consider shrimp to be fish bait too, but it's my #1
> > favorite food...
>
> We use bait shrimp, they're smaller than eating size. Different license
> required for catching bait shrimp than for eating shrimp.

Ah, the differences in state fishing laws. ;-)
We can use a night light here. That's illegal in many states.

Caught many a Drum using a floating light for attracting fry.

> >
> > I'm going to pick up a nice salmon fillet for fathers day for dad in the
> > morning. Grill it with Dillweed and Oranges, then serve it with saute'd
> > shrimp that were on sale this week at HEB, (really big ones!) and some
> > BBQ'd pork loin. I've not decided on a veggie yet. Probably steamed
> > "baby" carrots and some steamed broccoli as those are dad's two favorite
> > veggies.
>
> I wish we could get decent salmon here, all that is available in "fresh"
> is very anemic looking and the rest is frozen.

See my later posts. I decided on lemon instead of Orange. The fillet was
lovely and dad is really enjoying it.

>
> My daughter and SIL are coming over from Houston tomorrow, we will have
> smoked pork ribs, acorn squash, new potatoes with home grown green
> beans, and a fresh loaf of bread (SIL loves my homemade bread), dessert
> will be Hello Dolly bars. Then they will go home again and we can rest.

Sounds lovely! I marinated some pork loin chops for today. I have to
be at work at 6 pm. to work a 12 hour shift, so cooking Saturday was it!

I plan to do some BBQ next weekend with more loin chops as I'll have
Sunday off. Might kebab some of that jumbo shrimp that was on sale as
well with some mushrooms.
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In article >,
Becca > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
>
>
> >> When I use frozen crawfish tails, I will bring water to a boil, add the
> >> crawfish, and as soon as the water comes back to a boil, I drain them.
> >> Then, chill them in an ice bath to keep them from overcooking. I never
> >> use frozen crawfish right out of the bag.
> >>
> >> Becca
> >>
> >
> > Good way to get the salt out I suppose. ;-)
> >
>
> Om, I am not sure why we do it, but that is what the Cajuns taught me.
> Another method is to put the crawfish tails in a colander and pour
> boiling water over them.
>
>
> Becca

I'll always take any cooking tips I can get Becca. :-)

Thank you!
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Om wrote:

> Might kebab some of that jumbo shrimp that was on sale as
> well with some mushrooms.

What? Shrimp with mushrooms? Might as well load it up with cheese, too!

Bob

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> Om wrote:
>
> > Might kebab some of that jumbo shrimp that was on sale as
> > well with some mushrooms.
>
> What? Shrimp with mushrooms? Might as well load it up with cheese, too!
>
> Bob

Why not? <g>
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On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:57:54 -0400, cybercat wrote:

>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:49:35 -0700 (PDT), Bobo Bonobo®
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Anyway, I loved Trout Fishing, though I agree, there's better Brautigan.
>
> Brautigan. What a lightweight.

i haven't re-read 'trout fishing' since back when it was a hot item. i
wasn't impressed.

if i want surrealism, give me donald barthelme.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:10:41 -0500, Kathleen wrote:
>
> Personally, I would get naked for Mark Twain or Terry Pratchett
> (assuming the one wasn't dead and the other afflicted with rapid onset
> Alzheimer's).

i credit mark twain for me becoming an atheist.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:25:18 +0200, Michael Kuettner wrote:

> Kathleen wrote:
>> Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I didn't think much of Walton's "The Complete Angler" or "Zen and the
>>> Art of Motorcycle Maintenance." And Kerouacks "On the Road" was only
>>> slightly better.
>>
>> I didn't like any of the above, although I was told that I was supposed
>> to.
>> I read through Hemmingway's stuff by the time I was 10 - it was in the
>> living room bookcase. At that point, nobody had told me what ultimately
>> became of the man. Based on his writing alone, I thought that there was
>> something seriously wrong with him. I was right. Don't even get me
>> started on Salinger...
>>
>> I am an insatiable, omnivorous reader. Put it in ink, leave it where I
>> can reach it and it will get read. But I always wonder why some things
>> wind up deemed "classics", how they end up as required reading in high
>> school or college? Who decides these things?
>>
>> Personally, I would get naked for Mark Twain or Terry Pratchett
>> (assuming the one wasn't dead and the other afflicted with rapid onset
>> Alzheimer's).
>
> Then you'd also might like to try Tom Sharpe and Douglas Adams.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner

two other very funny men.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:02:44 +0200, Michael Kuettner wrote:

> Kathleen wrote:
>> Michael Kuettner wrote:
>>
>>> Kathleen wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I would get naked for Mark Twain or Terry Pratchett
>>>> (assuming the one wasn't dead and the other afflicted with rapid onset
>>>> Alzheimer's).
>>>
>>>
>>> Then you'd also might like to try Tom Sharpe and Douglas Adams.
>>
>> Been there, done that.
>
> Robert Rankin ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner

don't know him. anything in particular that stands out?

your pal,
blake

In article >,
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. > wrote:
>
>A lot of male writers works are so fraught with heterosexual angst that

Oh, pfffftttt.

>
>The Catch Trap by Marion Zimmer Bradley is a nonhetrosexist love story.

Kushie's dart, by Jacqueline Carey, if you want somewhat non
traditional love stories. The heroine's a het woman although the fact
that she enjoys pain may enable you to forget that awful fault.

How do you feel about Steinbeck or Melville? Too male
for you?


Please redirect followups appropriately. TIA.

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:10:41 -0500, Kathleen wrote:
> >
> > Personally, I would get naked for Mark Twain or Terry Pratchett
> > (assuming the one wasn't dead and the other afflicted with rapid onset
> > Alzheimer's).
>
> i credit mark twain for me becoming an atheist.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Letters from the Earth? :-)
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On Jun 21, 12:37*pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article >,
> *blake murphy > wrote:

> > i credit mark twain for me becoming an atheist.
> > your pal,
> > blake
------------------------------------------
> Letters from the Earth? :-)
> Peace! Om
=====================================

Ever read "The Diary of Adam and Eve" ? I think it's in
"Letters . . ." .

Bock & Harnick (Fiddler) wrote a musical "The Apple Tree" - 3 separate
stories in 3 acts, first one is "The Diary . . . " almost verbatim.
Sooooo funny.

Lynn in Fargo
Directed said musical. Twice.

In article
>,
Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig > wrote:

> On Jun 21, 12:37*pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > In article >,
> > *blake murphy > wrote:
>
> > > i credit mark twain for me becoming an atheist.
> > > your pal,
> > > blake
> ------------------------------------------
> > Letters from the Earth? :-)
> > Peace! Om
> =====================================
>
> Ever read "The Diary of Adam and Eve" ? I think it's in
> "Letters . . ." .
>
> Bock & Harnick (Fiddler) wrote a musical "The Apple Tree" - 3 separate
> stories in 3 acts, first one is "The Diary . . . " almost verbatim.
> Sooooo funny.
>
> Lynn in Fargo
> Directed said musical. Twice.

It's excellent and entertaining reading. :-)
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blake murphy wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:02:44 +0200, Michael Kuettner wrote:
>
>> Kathleen wrote:
>>> Michael Kuettner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kathleen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I would get naked for Mark Twain or Terry Pratchett
>>>>> (assuming the one wasn't dead and the other afflicted with rapid
>>>>> onset Alzheimer's).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then you'd also might like to try Tom Sharpe and Douglas Adams.
>>>
>>> Been there, done that.
>>
>> Robert Rankin ?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Michael Kuettner
>
> don't know him. anything in particular that stands out?
>
Well, I'd recommend the Brentford trilogy.
(The Antipope, East Of Ealing, The Brentford Triangle,
The Sprouts Of Wrath and The Brentford Chainstore
Massacre).
If you like a mixture of everyday life in Britain and dadaistic
fantasy, you'll like the books.
The Times called Rankin "the James Joyce for the drinking man",
AFAIR ;-)

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:04:54 +0200, Michael Kuettner wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:02:44 +0200, Michael Kuettner wrote:
>>
>>> Kathleen wrote:
>>>> Michael Kuettner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Kathleen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Personally, I would get naked for Mark Twain or Terry Pratchett
>>>>>> (assuming the one wasn't dead and the other afflicted with rapid
>>>>>> onset Alzheimer's).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you'd also might like to try Tom Sharpe and Douglas Adams.
>>>>
>>>> Been there, done that.
>>>
>>> Robert Rankin ?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Michael Kuettner
>>
>> don't know him. anything in particular that stands out?
>>
> Well, I'd recommend the Brentford trilogy.
> (The Antipope, East Of Ealing, The Brentford Triangle,
> The Sprouts Of Wrath and The Brentford Chainstore
> Massacre).
> If you like a mixture of everyday life in Britain and dadaistic
> fantasy, you'll like the books.
> The Times called Rankin "the James Joyce for the drinking man",
> AFAIR ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner

o.k., noted. i hope "the James Joyce for the drinking man" means he's not
as abstruse as joyce was.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:37:07 -0500, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:10:41 -0500, Kathleen wrote:
>>>
>>> Personally, I would get naked for Mark Twain or Terry Pratchett
>>> (assuming the one wasn't dead and the other afflicted with rapid onset
>>> Alzheimer's).
>>
>> i credit mark twain for me becoming an atheist.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Letters from the Earth? :-)

yep, that was one. perhaps the nail in the coffin. 'huckleberry finn'
certainly had some clues, though.

your pal,
blake

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:37:07 -0500, Omelet wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > blake murphy > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:10:41 -0500, Kathleen wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Personally, I would get naked for Mark Twain or Terry Pratchett
> >>> (assuming the one wasn't dead and the other afflicted with rapid onset
> >>> Alzheimer's).
> >>
> >> i credit mark twain for me becoming an atheist.
> >>
> >> your pal,
> >> blake
> >
> > Letters from the Earth? :-)
>
> yep, that was one. perhaps the nail in the coffin. 'huckleberry finn'
> certainly had some clues, though.
>
> your pal,
> blake

I totally understand.

You may enjoy "The Golden Bough" for a bit of historical reading.
It had a similar effect on me that "Letters" did for you, but probably
for different reasons. I'm not an Atheist tho'. More of a Pantheist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Bough

It's a bit dry, but very enlightening.
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It's about learning to dance in the rain.
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