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![]() I've made this several times with good luck. Don't overcook it, the recipe is rather vague. No more than twenty-thirty minutes, I would think. This recipe is taken from: "The New Illustrated Universal Reference Book" [London: Odhams Press, Ltd. 1933] Ingredients: 4 grapefruit 6 oranges 6 lemons Sugar*** *** Sizes or weights are not provided other than the simple instruction to add sugar at the rate of 150% of the weight of the mixture. This ratio is VERY important. Initial Preparation: Cook the grapefruit and the oranges separately, and in sufficient water to cover them, until they are soft enough to be easily pierced with a fine skewer. Leave them overnight in the water in which they have been boiled. Final Preparation: Next morning, cut the grapefruits in halves. scoop out the pulp, and rub it through a sieve to remove the pips and rough core. Shred the rind with a sharp knife (well, you wouldn't use a dull one, would you?) Cut the oranges into thin slices being careful to save all the juice. Add to the grapefruit. Weight the mixture at this point and add 150% it's weight in sugar (recipe says, "good sugar" ). Add the strained juice of the lemons, and boil all together until the marmalade shows signs of setting when a small amount of it is tested on a plate. (no time is given, so it may be trial and error at first) Only the juice of the lemons is used in this particular recipe. Have at least eight 16 oz. jars ready, fill and allow to cool. Enjoy! |
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Mack wrote on Mon, 04 May 2009 13:35:49 -0700:
> This recipe is taken from: > "The New Illustrated Universal Reference Book" > [London: Odhams Press, Ltd. 1933] > Ingredients: > 4 grapefruit > 6 oranges > 6 lemons > Sugar*** That may well be good but to me the only decent marmalade is made with Seville (bitter) oranges. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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James Silverton wrote:
> Mack wrote on Mon, 04 May 2009 13:35:49 -0700: > >> This recipe is taken from: >> "The New Illustrated Universal Reference Book" >> [London: Odhams Press, Ltd. 1933] > >> Ingredients: >> 4 grapefruit >> 6 oranges >> 6 lemons >> Sugar*** > > That may well be good but to me the only decent marmalade is made > with > Seville (bitter) oranges. Which, unfortunately, are unobtainable here in the US, James. Mack's recipe sounds like a good substitute. |
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Dora wrote on Mon, 4 May 2009 16:50:51 -0400:
> James Silverton wrote: >> Mack wrote on Mon, 04 May 2009 13:35:49 -0700: >> >>> This recipe is taken from: >>> "The New Illustrated Universal Reference Book" >>> [London: Odhams Press, Ltd. 1933] >> >>> Ingredients: >>> 4 grapefruit >>> 6 oranges >>> 6 lemons >>> Sugar*** >> >> That may well be good but to me the only decent marmalade is made >> with Seville (bitter) oranges. >Which, unfortunately, are unobtainable here in the US, James. Mack's >recipe sounds like a good substitute. I will just go on buying imported marmalade I guess. :-( , but I have seen large imported cans of Seville oranges for making marmalade. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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On Mon, 04 May 2009 21:16:45 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote: > Dora wrote on Mon, 4 May 2009 16:50:51 -0400: > >> James Silverton wrote: >>> Mack wrote on Mon, 04 May 2009 13:35:49 -0700: >>> >>>> This recipe is taken from: >>>> "The New Illustrated Universal Reference Book" >>>> [London: Odhams Press, Ltd. 1933] >>> >>>> Ingredients: >>>> 4 grapefruit >>>> 6 oranges >>>> 6 lemons >>>> Sugar*** >>> >>> That may well be good but to me the only decent marmalade is made >>> with Seville (bitter) oranges. > >>Which, unfortunately, are unobtainable here in the US, James. Mack's >>recipe sounds like a good substitute. > >I will just go on buying imported marmalade I guess. :-( , but I have >seen large imported cans of Seville oranges for making marmalade. I can pluck oranges from the trees nearby. Grapefruit, too. I'm not fussy. -- mad |
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James Silverton wrote:
> I will just go on buying imported marmalade I guess. :-( , but I > have > seen large imported cans of Seville oranges for making marmalade. Here you go, James: http://www.addedtouchstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=7663 Dora |
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Dora wrote on Mon, 4 May 2009 19:21:24 -0400:
>> I will just go on buying imported marmalade I guess. :-( , >> but I have seen large imported cans of Seville oranges for >> making marmalade. > Here you go, James: > http://www.addedtouchstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=7663 Thanks, I just recalled where I last saw them. It was in a "Gourmet" import store but you never can tell what they will have available: foods from South Africa to things with labels entirely in Russian. Exercising my unpracticed Cyrillic, I was able to work out what they were. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Dora wrote:
> James Silverton wrote: > >> I will just go on buying imported marmalade I guess. :-( , but I have >> seen large imported cans of Seville oranges for making marmalade. > > Here you go, James: > > http://www.addedtouchstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=7663 I tried that stuff one year. I picked up a can at a German deli. It was not as good as the marmalade I made from fresh Seville oranges, but wasn't bad. It sure was easier. It is probably the best bet for yo if you missed the Seville oranges during the very short window of availability, which is usually a week or two here. It is definitely too late to get Seville oranges in NA now. You have to start looking for them toward the end of January. One year I was looking for Seville oranges. My mother told me she had seen them in her grocery store. Not seeing any in one store, I asked a kid who was stocking produce in the fruit and produce section. He looked puzzled at first but then said "Oh yeah, the really tasty ones" at which point I realized he didn't have a clue what I was talking about. Seville oranges are not tasty. They are actually really disgusting tasting. They are no bad that I am surprised that it ever occurred to someone to make marmalade with them. |
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James Silverton wrote:
>> Which, unfortunately, are unobtainable here in the US, James. Mack's >> recipe sounds like a good substitute. > > I will just go on buying imported marmalade I guess. :-( , but I have > seen large imported cans of Seville oranges for making marmalade. That is unfortunate. Good Seville marmalade is expensive. For less than the cost of one jar of good imported Seville marmalade I can make a dozen jars of it. All it takes is about a dozen oranges and sugar. The recipe that I use is quite simple, but takes a few hours. Remove blemished from oranges. Juice the oranges into a pot. Save the pips and wrap them in cheesecloth ball. Slice the peels, easily done in a food processor. Put the sliced peel and bag of pips into a pot, add enough water to cover the peels. Bring to a boil and then turn down the heat to keep it just below a simmer for 2-3 hours, until you easily squeeze the peel between your thumb and finger. Remove the ball for pips, squeezing out the juice. In small batches, mix equal parts of the orange mash and granulated sugar. Bring it to a boil and cook until drops of the mixture will set on an inverted bowl. Pour the hot marmalade into sterilized jars and seal. |
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Dora wrote:
>> That may well be good but to me the only decent marmalade is made with >> Seville (bitter) oranges. > > Which, unfortunately, are unobtainable here in the US, James. Mack's > recipe sounds like a good substitute. Unobtainable in the US? We get them in Canada, but they are only available for a week or two in the winter. |
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On Mon, 04 May 2009 20:41:19 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote: >but to me the only decent marmalade is made with >Seville (bitter) oranges. James...I have been looking for that Seville orange store for years now...... |
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Mr. Bill wrote:
> On Mon, 04 May 2009 20:41:19 GMT, "James Silverton" > > wrote: > >> but to me the only decent marmalade is made with >> Seville (bitter) oranges. > > James...I have been looking for that Seville orange store for years > now...... You can sometimes get them at "Fiesta" supermarkets. I was excited to find them a few years ago; they weren't even very expensive. I made real marmalade, and I entered it in the county fair. It was disqualified because it was bitter! (Idiot judge. It's supposed to be bitter.) I didn't like the stuff all that much, so I gave several jars to an Englishman friend. Here's an easy marmalade recipe that's not bitter. (it did much better at the fair) Bob's Tangerine Marmalade 2 pounds tangerines (I used "Honey" variety) 2 largish lemons 6 cups water 8 cups granulated sugar 1/2 cup bottled lemon juice Scrub tangerines and lemons to remove any wax or pesticide residues. Simmer whole tangerines and lemons in 6 cups of water, covered, for a couple of hours, then let them cool enough to handle. Cut the cooked fruit in half and scoop out the pulp and put it back in the cooking water. Set the tangerine peels aside for later. Discard the lemon peels or save for another purpose. Simmer the pulp and seeds for about a half an hour, mashing occasionally with a potato smasher. Strain the juice out of the pulp with a jelly bag or big square of muslin cloth, squeezing it as dry as possible. Slice the cooked tangerine peel in to slivers and added to the strained juice in a big but shallow stock pot. Bring pulp, juice, and peels to a boil, add sugar all at once, and cook, stirring until the sugar is dissolved. Taste, and adjust tartness with up to 1/2 cup bottled lemon juice ("Honey" tangerines are not very sour at all.) Cook until 222 degrees on a candy thermometer, let cool to about 200 degrees, and ladle into half-pint jars. Adjust caps and process in boiling water bath for 10 minutes. Makes about 8 half-pints, with a little left over. Notes: All the peel floated to the top of the jars during processing, so I shook them and turned them upside down after they went "ping". Blue ribbon winner, Olmsted County Fair, 2004 |
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zxcvbob wrote:
> Mr. Bill wrote: >> On Mon, 04 May 2009 20:41:19 GMT, "James Silverton" >> > wrote: >> >>> but to me the only decent marmalade is made with >>> Seville (bitter) oranges. >> >> James...I have been looking for that Seville orange store for years >> now...... > > > You can sometimes get them at "Fiesta" supermarkets. I was excited > to > find them a few years ago; they weren't even very expensive. I made > real marmalade, and I entered it in the county fair. It was > disqualified because it was bitter! (Idiot judge. It's supposed to > be bitter.) I didn't like the stuff all that much, so I gave > several > jars to an Englishman friend. > <recipe snipped> Perhaps you live in the Southwest? Wayne Boatwright has told me that bitter orange trees line some of the streets in Phoenix and the oranges fall to the ground. I don't know if they are Sevilles. Sevilles are available in England for a very short time (usually January to March), shipped in from Spain. Sadly, I have never been able to find them here in the US but a Canadian poster here has advised they're sometimes available there. Dora |
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Dora wrote:
> zxcvbob wrote: >> Mr. Bill wrote: >>> On Mon, 04 May 2009 20:41:19 GMT, "James Silverton" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> but to me the only decent marmalade is made with >>>> Seville (bitter) oranges. >>> >>> James...I have been looking for that Seville orange store for years >>> now...... >> >> >> You can sometimes get them at "Fiesta" supermarkets. I was excited to >> find them a few years ago; they weren't even very expensive. I made >> real marmalade, and I entered it in the county fair. It was >> disqualified because it was bitter! (Idiot judge. It's supposed to >> be bitter.) I didn't like the stuff all that much, so I gave several >> jars to an Englishman friend. >> > <recipe snipped> > > Perhaps you live in the Southwest? Wayne Boatwright has told me that > bitter orange trees line some of the streets in Phoenix and the oranges > fall to the ground. I don't know if they are Sevilles. Sevilles are > available in England for a very short time (usually January to March), > shipped in from Spain. Sadly, I have never been able to find them here > in the US but a Canadian poster here has advised they're sometimes > available there. > > Dora I was visiting family in Houston, Texas. It's not exactly Southwest, but has a huge Mexican population. Fiesta is a ethnic supermarket that caters primarily to Mexicans, and a lesser extent Cuban and Caribbean (and a little of everything else.) Their produce section is really something. I found the Seville oranges in... late summer, I think. I can't imagine where in the world they would have been in season. South America maybe? Bob |
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On Mon, 04 May 2009 17:31:46 -0500, zxcvbob >
wrote: >You can sometimes get them at "Fiesta" supermarkets Never heard of them...they are from 'round here? But...I did copy down Ina Garten's recipe from last week. Don't know if I will go to the trouble to make some...since it is available at Kroger. http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/i...ipe/index.html But then again EIGHT CUPS SUGAR!!! ...maybe that is something I will continue to purchase by the jar, when the mood strikes. |
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Mr. Bill wrote:
> On Mon, 04 May 2009 20:41:19 GMT, "James Silverton" > > wrote: > >> but to me the only decent marmalade is made with >> Seville (bitter) oranges. > > James...I have been looking for that Seville orange store for years > now...... You have to look at the right time. They are usually around only for a week or two in Jan. or Feb. If you see them, get them. They won't be around for long. |
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James Silverton wrote:
> Mack wrote on Mon, 04 May 2009 13:35:49 -0700: > >> This recipe is taken from: >> "The New Illustrated Universal Reference Book" >> [London: Odhams Press, Ltd. 1933] > >> Ingredients: >> 4 grapefruit >> 6 oranges >> 6 lemons >> Sugar*** > > That may well be good but to me the only decent marmalade is made with > Seville (bitter) oranges. Seville Marmalade is the best IMO, but I have had orange lemon and grapefruit marmalade and it's not bad. Not as good as Seville, but quite edible. For anyone wanting to make marmalade at this time of year, Seville is not an option. They are only available for a short time in Jan. or Feb. |
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