blake murphy wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 07:00:03 -0700, Bob Terwilliger wrote:

>> So park there. Do you really think a store would enforce that policy
>> to the point of towing their customers' vehicles?

> i think someone upthread mentioned that parking in a marked
> handicapped space is a violation of the law, kind of a different
> thing. (i don't know that *providing* them is mandated - could be.)

They are mandated here, and the law determines how many
per lot must be handicapped spots.

> i guess the store would have to think about how many customers were
> ****ed versus pleased at the policy.

I've seen those spots at the mall, and at one or two supermarkets.
They don't really have room for that kind of thing in the two stores
I visit most, they have just enough spots as it is. And there are a
lot of senior citizens, try telling them they have to park further,
good luck.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> They are mandated here, and the law determines how many per lot must be
> handicapped spots.
>> i guess the store would have to think about how many customers were
>> ****ed versus pleased at the policy.
>
> I've seen those spots at the mall, and at one or two supermarkets.
> They don't really have room for that kind of thing in the two stores
> I visit most, they have just enough spots as it is. And there are a
> lot of senior citizens, try telling them they have to park further,
> good luck.


It's not just seniors who don't want to walk. At my old Y there was
parking all around the building, and there were three doors, one at the
a front, one at the side and one at the back. Several times I saw people
drive around and around looking for a spot near the front door. You
don't want to have to walk too far on your way to work out.

The funniest one was a young lady who wanted my parking space. I was
working and afternoon shift and had spent the afternoon in court. When
we were finished I had to get back to my regular duties. I was parked
in the municipal lot and was in front of a private gym. When I got to my
car I had to dig get out my brief case and boot up the computer for my
mobile terminal. A woman had pulled up behind me, leaving me enough room
to get out. While I was putting my court files in my brief case she
honked her horn. Apparently she wanted my space. I don't know why she
could not have taken one of the many empty spaces a few cars down from
me or the one on the other side of the lane.

That old lap top was slow booting up. Then I had to log on, which was
also a slow process. She kept tooting her horn for me to hurry up. It
didn't make the computer run any faster or speed up the log on. When I
finally pulled out she blasted her horn to get my attention as she gave
me the finger. As I drove away I kept an eye on her through the mirror.
She went into the gym. The silly twit had wasted close to 10 minutes
waiting for my space rather than walking an extra 20 feet.

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:19:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>The silly twit had wasted close to 10 minutes
>waiting for my space rather than walking an extra 20 feet.

The walk and exercise will do you more good than you know. All I
want is to be able to park NEXT to a cart return. There is always
a parking spot at the last one!

Mr. Bill wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:19:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> The silly twit had wasted close to 10 minutes
>> waiting for my space rather than walking an extra 20 feet.
>
> The walk and exercise will do you more good than you know. All I
> want is to be able to park NEXT to a cart return. There is always
> a parking spot at the last one!


I like walking and walk 2-3 miles per day, sometimes more. I have no
problem pulling into a parking lot and grabbing the first empty space
somewhere in the vicinity of where I want to go. I usually end up
getting into the store faster than the people who drive around looking
for a closer spot.

I have noticed that the spaces next to the cart collection tend to be
available. That saves having to push the cart a long way back. Not that
it is a problem to do the walking, but I am just not motivated at that
point. My priority is to get home and get things put away. The reason
they are usually available is because the cart stand usually extends
right to the edge of the parking space, so there is less room to open
the door. Since I usually shop on my own I only need space on one side.

Dave Smith wrote:
> Mr. Bill wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:19:40 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> The silly twit had wasted close to 10 minutes waiting for my space
>>> rather than walking an extra 20 feet.
>>
>> The walk and exercise will do you more good than you know. All I
>> want is to be able to park NEXT to a cart return. There is always
>> a parking spot at the last one!
>
>
> I like walking and walk 2-3 miles per day, sometimes more. I have no
> problem pulling into a parking lot and grabbing the first empty space
> somewhere in the vicinity of where I want to go. I usually end up
> getting into the store faster than the people who drive around looking
> for a closer spot.
>
> I have noticed that the spaces next to the cart collection tend to be
> available. That saves having to push the cart a long way back. Not that
> it is a problem to do the walking, but I am just not motivated at that
> point. My priority is to get home and get things put away. The reason
> they are usually available is because the cart stand usually extends
> right to the edge of the parking space, so there is less room to open
> the door. Since I usually shop on my own I only need space on one side.

I think, too, cars might have a greater chance of being damaged by
carts.

I also park far away from the store. It is interesting to watch
folks who will do anything to get a close spot.

--
Jean B.

Jean B. wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:

>> I like walking and walk 2-3 miles per day, sometimes more. I have no
>> problem pulling into a parking lot and grabbing the first empty space
>> somewhere in the vicinity of where I want to go. I usually end up
>> getting into the store faster than the people who drive around
>> looking for a closer spot.

> I also park far away from the store. It is interesting to watch
> folks who will do anything to get a close spot.

I see a spot, I pull the car into it and walk. I really cannot
believe my eyes sometimes, watching people wait and wait
for someone to back out of a parking spot when there is an
open one 2 places over.

Leaving a store a few days ago I actually noticed a woman
drive into the parking lot and park, say, 10 spaces from the
first filled spot. She got out and briskly walked to the store.
It was such a rare sight, it caught my eye. Get some
exercise on the way to the store? What a concept!

nancy

"Nancy Young" wrote:
>
> Leaving a store a few days ago I actually noticed a woman
> drive into the parking lot and park, say, 10 spaces from the
> first filled spot. She got out and briskly walked to the store.
> It was such a rare sight, it caught my eye. Get some
> exercise on the way to the store? What a concept!
>
>
She probably had a nice car and wanted to park away from everyone else so no
one dinged her car... but even though there can be a thousand other spaces
some clod in an old clunker will park right next to her, real close, so when
they swing open their door they will ding her car... probably will return
ten minutes later and wop her car with a cart... by the time that nice lady
returns no one will be parked near her car, but it will have a few dings.

Nancy Young wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> I like walking and walk 2-3 miles per day, sometimes more. I have no
>>> problem pulling into a parking lot and grabbing the first empty space
>>> somewhere in the vicinity of where I want to go. I usually end up
>>> getting into the store faster than the people who drive around
>>> looking for a closer spot.
>
>> I also park far away from the store. It is interesting to watch
>> folks who will do anything to get a close spot.
>
> I see a spot, I pull the car into it and walk. I really cannot
> believe my eyes sometimes, watching people wait and wait
> for someone to back out of a parking spot when there is an
> open one 2 places over.
> Leaving a store a few days ago I actually noticed a woman
> drive into the parking lot and park, say, 10 spaces from the
> first filled spot. She got out and briskly walked to the store.
> It was such a rare sight, it caught my eye. Get some
> exercise on the way to the store? What a concept!
>
> nancy

Oh, it is sad that such a thing would catch one's eye nowadays. I
suppose it would also catch mine in a fairly minor way, since the
other is so prevalent.

--
Jean B.

Jean B. wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> Mr. Bill wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:19:40 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> The silly twit had wasted close to 10 minutes waiting for my space
>>>> rather than walking an extra 20 feet.
>>>
>>> The walk and exercise will do you more good than you know. All I
>>> want is to be able to park NEXT to a cart return. There is always
>>> a parking spot at the last one!
>>
>>
>> I like walking and walk 2-3 miles per day, sometimes more. I have no
>> problem pulling into a parking lot and grabbing the first empty space
>> somewhere in the vicinity of where I want to go. I usually end up
>> getting into the store faster than the people who drive around looking
>> for a closer spot.
>>
>> I have noticed that the spaces next to the cart collection tend to be
>> available. That saves having to push the cart a long way back. Not
>> that it is a problem to do the walking, but I am just not motivated
>> at that point. My priority is to get home and get things put away. The
>> reason they are usually available is because the cart stand usually
>> extends right to the edge of the parking space, so there is less room
>> to open the door. Since I usually shop on my own I only need space on
>> one side.
>
> I think, too, cars might have a greater chance of being damaged by carts.
>
> I also park far away from the store. It is interesting to watch folks
> who will do anything to get a close spot.
>

There is a strip mall nearby that has a fitness center and sometimes I
walk the dog through the lot. It is fun to watch all of the dueling
trucks trying to get as close to the door as possible. One day someone
actually pulled their goofy hummer up on the sidewalk under the canopy.

George wrote:

> There is a strip mall nearby that has a fitness center and sometimes I
> walk the dog through the lot. It is fun to watch all of the dueling
> trucks trying to get as close to the door as possible. One day someone
> actually pulled their goofy hummer up on the sidewalk under the canopy.

You remind me of a truck that was parked on a snowbank!

--
Jean B.

On Mar 31, 6:27*am, Dave Smith > wrote:
> Mr. Bill wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:19:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> > > wrote:
>
> >> The silly twit had wasted close to 10 minutes
> >> waiting for my space rather than walking an extra 20 feet.
>
> > The walk and exercise will do you more good than you know. * All I
> > want is to be able to park NEXT to a cart return. * * There is always
> > a parking spot *at the last one!
>
> I like walking and walk 2-3 miles per day, sometimes more. I have no
> problem pulling into a parking lot and grabbing the first empty space
> somewhere in the vicinity of where I want to go. I usually end up
> getting into the store faster than the people who drive around looking
> for a closer spot.
>
> I have noticed that the spaces next to the cart collection tend to be
> available. *That saves having to push the cart a long way back. Not that
> * it is a problem to do the walking, but I am just not motivated at that
> point. My priority is to get home and get things put away. The reason
> they are usually available is because the cart stand usually extends
> right to the edge of the parking space, so there is less room to open
> the door. Since I usually shop on my own I only need space on one side.

There is a reason that spaces near the trolley return are free. No-one
wants a cart running into their car!

JB

"Golden One" > wrote:
>
There is a reason that spaces near the trolley return are free. No-one
wants a cart running into their car!

JB

That's one of the reasons many of the carts in the down state NY area
require putting a quarter into a slot on the cart to unlock the chain and to
return the cart and rechain it to get the quarter returned... it works, most
everyone returns the carts to the racks in front of the store, no loose
carts in the lot or scattered about the neighborhood. Even if a few don't
bother bringing the cart back to get their quarter there are always people
who will take those carts to use so they don't need to place a quarter in
the slot and when they return the cart after shopping they get the free
quarter. All stores with carts should be required to supply this type of
cart by law... loose carts in parking lots cause tremendously expensive
damage, damage we all pay for in increased insurance rates. Plus carts
ain't cheap, many folks in urban areas don't have automobiles so they take
the carts to bring their groceries home (some urban folks shop every day,
the number of abandoned carts add up quickly), then just leave the carts in
the streets, where they get taken by homeless or simply become canobalized
by kids just for fun... the price of lost carts gets passed on to the
consumer, at like $300 a pop that's a lotta lettuce. There are actually
companies that are contracted to drive about the neighborhood with a truck
to pick up the abandoned carts and return them to the stores, of course for
a fee like $25 per cart, again the cost is passed on to the consumer. All
losses are passed on to the consumer, if people didn't steal and/or destroy
groceries would easily cost half as much.

brooklyn1 said...

> That's one of the reasons many of the carts in the down state NY area
> require putting a quarter into a slot on the cart to unlock the chain
> and to return the cart and rechain it to get the quarter returned...


brooklyn1,

I remember seeing that! I forget where.

I have a great memory, it's just short!

Kid's would compete for the chance to push your grocery cart to your car and
unload it, for the right to return the cart for the 25¢ return.

A mob scam, I'm almost certain. Or the start of one?

Best,

Andy