Given that what we cook and discuss on here relates to food and by
logical extension soils

This may interest some of you
Cheers




Why depleted soils are making us sick
MATT CAWOOD
25/03/2009 7:15:00 PM
When Bathurst doctor Carole Hungerford graduated in the late 1960s,
breast cancer was late-life disease diagnosed in about one in fifteen women.

"Now the surgeons are saying it's one in eight, perhaps one in seven,"
Dr Hungerford said.

"And a lot of it is the young person's cancer, the aggressive one.

"We didn't even look for it 40 years ago."

What's happened? According to the author of Good Health in the 21st
Century, we’ve stuffed up.

"Nature didn't stuff up, we stuffed up. Modern humans have been on the
planet for 200,000 years, and in the last few decades have we thrown out
a lot of challenges to the body," she said.

"We've started putting chlorine in the drinking water, sulfates in the
wine, additives in the food … people don't know where they are getting
their headache from because they are reacting to everything."

At the same time, Dr Hungerford says, people are getting less nutrient
from their food.

"Some of us are eating good food grown in bad soils, or good food that
is not fresh. More of us are eating bad food that is neither fresh nor
grown in good soils."

Dr Hungerford will be participating in an online question and answer
forum on The Land's website between 12 and 2pm Friday.

For many people, the result is an immune system compromised on one hand
by lack of resources to do its job, and on the other by a raft of
environmental challenges that the human body has never before encountered.

According to Dr Hungerford, a host of modern diseases have their roots
in this situation: cancer, arthritis, asthma, autism, Alzheimers,
multiple sclerosis, and Parkinson’s disease, to name a few.

Teasing out what is behind these diseases, which are swallowing the
health budgets of Western nations whole, has been a long obsession for
Dr Hungerford.

It culminated in her 2006 book—among other things, a short course in
human biochemistry—which swelled the waiting list at her practices in
Bathurst and Balmain out to three months and more.

Health is complicated, something that changes from individual to
individual, but after years of research and medical practice, Dr
Hungerford has come to believe health starts in the soil.

"I think if we were all eating organic foods growing in pristine
volcanic soils, and we didn't process that food—so if we ate rice we ate
brown rice, and if we ate wheat we ate whole wheat—I think we'd
conservatively slash our health budget by 70 per cent," she said.

This may be a logistical impossibility, particularly in Australia and
its old, depeleted soils, but Dr Hungerford feels that farming
practices, and food processing, need to develop practices that better
acknowledge the vital health component of food.

In the meantime, she believes that "most, if not all of us" needs to
supplement their diet with key minerals like zinc, selenium, calcium and
magnesium.

That's not a common view in the medical profession, which Dr Hungerford
believes is one of the reasons that health services everywhere are
foundering against a tide of ill-health.

In focusing on "the disease model" and the science of curing disease,
Western medicine and related policy has neglected the science of prevention.

"In America, one per cent of the cancer research budget goes into
prevention; 99pc goes into other areas—early detection, and looking for
the magic bullet. Or it goes into support groups," she said.

"That’s all supported by the medical profession. We cure disease.
Where’s the excitement in prevention?

"Even Medicare isn't funded for prevention. If you come and see me and
say, 'Look, I feel terrific, and I want to stay that way, can you advise
me how to do that?'—that's not covered under Medicare."

In her book, she eloquently argues that prevention of disease begins
with soils capable of growing nutrient-dense food; with food supply
chains that nuture that nutrient through to consumers; with consumers
willing to eat a balanced, healthy diet; and with a general willingness
to stop fouling the environment with toxins that are making many of us sick.

"I think it's an idea whose time has come," Dr Hungerford says.

"Once your mother and your sister and your best friend's wife have all
got breast cancer, young, you start to think what’s happening—what’s
gone wrong?"

In her experience, a lot has gone wrong, and is still doing so.

Signs that this is the case recur every time she does an interview:
afterwards, the desk staff at her medical practises deal with a barrage
of phone calls, explaining to desperate people that her waiting list
already stretches months ahead.

"I don't need any more patients, but it's a message that needs to be
told," Dr Hungerford says.

GP and author Carole Hungerford will be online between 12 noon and 2pm
Friday to answer your questions about the links between health, food,
farming and the environment. To be part of the online discussion, go to
The Land's website, and click on the page's main story about Dr
Hungerford's work. At the bottom of the story there will be a feedback
box where readers can post their comments and questions about food,
farming and health, and receive a response from Dr Hungerford directly
on the website. For legal reasons, participants will not be able to ask
questions directly related to their own health issues.

"phil..c" > wrote in message
...
> Given that what we cook and discuss on here relates to food and by
> logical extension soils
>
> This may interest some of you
> Cheers
>
>
>
>
> Why depleted soils are making us sick
> MATT CAWOOD
> 25/03/2009 7:15:00 PM
> When Bathurst doctor Carole Hungerford graduated in the late 1960s, breast
> cancer was late-life disease diagnosed in about one in fifteen women.
>
> "Now the surgeons are saying it's one in eight, perhaps one in seven," Dr
> Hungerford said.
>
> "And a lot of it is the young person's cancer, the aggressive one.
>
> "We didn't even look for it 40 years ago."

That's because we were too busy banning eggs & butter

>
> What's happened? According to the author of Good Health in the 21st
> Century, we’ve stuffed up.
>
> "Nature didn't stuff up, we stuffed up. Modern humans have been on the
> planet for 200,000 years, and in the last few decades have we thrown out a
> lot of challenges to the body," she said.
>
> "We've started putting chlorine in the drinking water,

Communist plot!

sulfates in the wine, additives in the food

More Communist plots!


> … people don't know where they are getting their headache from because
> they are reacting to everything."
>
> At the same time, Dr Hungerford says, people are getting less nutrient
> from their food.

That's cause they're chewing less.


>
> "Some of us are eating good food grown in bad soils, or good food that is
> not fresh. More of us are eating bad food that is neither fresh nor grown
> in good soils."
>
> Dr Hungerford will be participating in an online question and answer forum
> on The Land's website between 12 and 2pm Friday.

Oh goodie gumdrops!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Mar 26, 2:27*am, "Dimitri" > wrote:
> "phil..c" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Given that what we cook and discuss on here *relates to food and by
> > logical extension soils
>
> > This may interest some of you
> > Cheers
>
> > Why depleted soils are making us sick
> > MATT CAWOOD
> > 25/03/2009 7:15:00 PM
> > When Bathurst doctor Carole Hungerford graduated in the late 1960s, breast
> > cancer was late-life disease diagnosed in about one in fifteen women.
>
> > "Now the surgeons are saying it's one in eight, perhaps one in seven," Dr
> > Hungerford said.
>
> > "And a lot of it is the young person's cancer, the aggressive one.
>
> > "We didn't even look for it 40 years ago."
>
> That's because we were too busy banning eggs & butter
>
>
>
> > What's happened? According to the author of Good Health in the 21st
> > Century, we’ve stuffed up.
>
> > "Nature didn't stuff up, we stuffed up. Modern humans have been on the
> > planet for 200,000 years, and in the last few decades have we thrown out a
> > lot of challenges to the body," she said.
>
> > "We've started putting chlorine in the drinking water,
>
> Communist plot!
>
> sulfates in the wine, additives in the food
>
> More Communist plots!
>
> > *… people don't know where they are getting their headache from because
> > they are reacting to everything."
>
> > At the same time, Dr Hungerford says, people are getting less nutrient
> > from their food.
>
> That's cause they're chewing less.
>
>
>
> > "Some of us are eating good food grown in bad soils, or good food that is
> > not fresh. More of us are eating bad food that is neither fresh nor grown
> > in good soils."
>
> > Dr Hungerford will be participating in an online question and answer forum
> > on The Land's website between 12 and 2pm Friday.
>
> Oh goodie gumdrops

Anyone else here read The Omnivore's Dilemma?

--Bryan

Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
so great) words of knowledge:

It is not the "depleted soils", IT IS THE CHEMICALS WE PUT IN THE SOIL.

At one time all your farmers used NATURAL fertilizers (horse, cow,
chicken manure, tilling under winter rye and similar crops, etc.

Then the government came along and said, "Hey, use this chemical
fertilizer. It has the exact same stuff in it as the manure and it is a
lot easier to use. It will make your work load easier."

Yep, TECHNICALLY commercial fertilizer has the same nutrients as the
natural fertilizers. The government FORGOT to mention a couple of
things - the chemical fertilizer does not build the soil up; it does not
keep the soil loose so it can absorb water and the chemical fertilizer
does not have any of the trace vitamins/minerals that the natural
fertilizers have AND THAT OUR BODIES NEED.

If you want GOOD food, get organic food (or grow it organically). That
way you can be reasonably assured that there were no poisons in the soil
and thus in the food.

Technology is not always better. Often times the "OLD" way of doing
things is better for you.

> Given that what we cook and discuss on here relates to food and by
> logical extension soils
>
> This may interest some of you
> Cheers
>
>
>
>
> Why depleted soils are making us sick
> MATT CAWOOD
> 25/03/2009 7:15:00 PM
> When Bathurst doctor Carole Hungerford graduated in the late 1960s,
> breast cancer was late-life disease diagnosed in about one in fifteen women.
>
> "Now the surgeons are saying it's one in eight, perhaps one in seven,"
> Dr Hungerford said.
>
> "And a lot of it is the young person's cancer, the aggressive one.
>
> "We didn't even look for it 40 years ago."
>
> What's happened? According to the author of Good Health in the 21st
> Century, we’ve stuffed up.
>
> "Nature didn't stuff up, we stuffed up. Modern humans have been on the
> planet for 200,000 years, and in the last few decades have we thrown out
> a lot of challenges to the body," she said.
>
> "We've started putting chlorine in the drinking water, sulfates in the
> wine, additives in the food … people don't know where they are getting
> their headache from because they are reacting to everything."
>
> At the same time, Dr Hungerford says, people are getting less nutrient
> from their food.
>
> "Some of us are eating good food grown in bad soils, or good food that
> is not fresh. More of us are eating bad food that is neither fresh nor
> grown in good soils."
>
> Dr Hungerford will be participating in an online question and answer
> forum on The Land's website between 12 and 2pm Friday.
>
> For many people, the result is an immune system compromised on one hand
> by lack of resources to do its job, and on the other by a raft of
> environmental challenges that the human body has never before encountered.
>
> According to Dr Hungerford, a host of modern diseases have their roots
> in this situation: cancer, arthritis, asthma, autism, Alzheimers,
> multiple sclerosis, and Parkinson’s disease, to name a few.
>
> Teasing out what is behind these diseases, which are swallowing the
> health budgets of Western nations whole, has been a long obsession for
> Dr Hungerford.
>
> It culminated in her 2006 book—among other things, a short course in
> human biochemistry—which swelled the waiting list at her practices in
> Bathurst and Balmain out to three months and more.
>
> Health is complicated, something that changes from individual to
> individual, but after years of research and medical practice, Dr
> Hungerford has come to believe health starts in the soil.
>
> "I think if we were all eating organic foods growing in pristine
> volcanic soils, and we didn't process that food—so if we ate rice we ate
> brown rice, and if we ate wheat we ate whole wheat—I think we'd
> conservatively slash our health budget by 70 per cent," she said.
>
> This may be a logistical impossibility, particularly in Australia and
> its old, depeleted soils, but Dr Hungerford feels that farming
> practices, and food processing, need to develop practices that better
> acknowledge the vital health component of food.
>
> In the meantime, she believes that "most, if not all of us" needs to
> supplement their diet with key minerals like zinc, selenium, calcium and
> magnesium.
>
> That's not a common view in the medical profession, which Dr Hungerford
> believes is one of the reasons that health services everywhere are
> foundering against a tide of ill-health.
>
> In focusing on "the disease model" and the science of curing disease,
> Western medicine and related policy has neglected the science of prevention.
>
> "In America, one per cent of the cancer research budget goes into
> prevention; 99pc goes into other areas—early detection, and looking for
> the magic bullet. Or it goes into support groups," she said.
>
> "That’s all supported by the medical profession. We cure disease.
> Where’s the excitement in prevention?
>
> "Even Medicare isn't funded for prevention. If you come and see me and
> say, 'Look, I feel terrific, and I want to stay that way, can you advise
> me how to do that?'—that's not covered under Medicare."
>
> In her book, she eloquently argues that prevention of disease begins
> with soils capable of growing nutrient-dense food; with food supply
> chains that nuture that nutrient through to consumers; with consumers
> willing to eat a balanced, healthy diet; and with a general willingness
> to stop fouling the environment with toxins that are making many of us sick.
>
> "I think it's an idea whose time has come," Dr Hungerford says.
>
> "Once your mother and your sister and your best friend's wife have all
> got breast cancer, young, you start to think what’s happening—what’s
> gone wrong?"
>
> In her experience, a lot has gone wrong, and is still doing so.
>
> Signs that this is the case recur every time she does an interview:
> afterwards, the desk staff at her medical practises deal with a barrage
> of phone calls, explaining to desperate people that her waiting list
> already stretches months ahead.
>
> "I don't need any more patients, but it's a message that needs to be
> told," Dr Hungerford says.
>
> GP and author Carole Hungerford will be online between 12 noon and 2pm
> Friday to answer your questions about the links between health, food,
> farming and the environment. To be part of the online discussion, go to
> The Land's website, and click on the page's main story about Dr
> Hungerford's work. At the bottom of the story there will be a feedback
> box where readers can post their comments and questions about food,
> farming and health, and receive a response from Dr Hungerford directly
> on the website. For legal reasons, participants will not be able to ask
> questions directly related to their own health issues.

In article >,
"phil..c" > wrote:


> Why depleted soils are making us sick
> MATT CAWOOD
> 25/03/2009 7:15:00 PM
> When Bathurst doctor Carole Hungerford graduated in the late 1960s,

> What's happened? According to the author of Good Health in the 21st
> Century, we¹ve stuffed up.

> "We've started putting chlorine in the drinking water, sulfates in the
> wine,

Sulfites have been put in wine for thousands of years.

The problem in the US, is that the label laws didn't require that it be
listed, since it was such a traditional additive. However, some people
are sensitive to sulfites, so new labeling laws required that it be
listed. All of a sudden, people noticed it on the label. Oh my God,
what are they doing!

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >,
> "phil..c" > wrote:
>
>
>> Why depleted soils are making us sick
>> MATT CAWOOD
>> 25/03/2009 7:15:00 PM
>> When Bathurst doctor Carole Hungerford graduated in the late 1960s,
>
>> What's happened? According to the author of Good Health in the 21st
>> Century, we¹ve stuffed up.
>
>> "We've started putting chlorine in the drinking water, sulfates in the
>> wine,
>
> Sulfites have been put in wine for thousands of years.
>
> The problem in the US, is that the label laws didn't require that it be
> listed, since it was such a traditional additive. However, some people
> are sensitive to sulfites, so new labeling laws required that it be
> listed. All of a sudden, people noticed it on the label. Oh my God,
> what are they doing!
>
That about sums it up at least regarding Sulphites