> wrote:

> Gregory Morrow > wrote:
>
> > ViLco is in Italy, it's the "European" way of getting produce weighed I
> > guess...
>
> > At the Treasure Island grocery chain here in Chicawgo you have to get
yer
> > produce weighed in the produce dept., I consider it a big PITA. I don't
> > like having to interact with store employees any more than is absolutely
> > necessary...half the time I have to run around finding someone to weigh
the
> > stuff, the weigher is rude, etc., etc. I mean it's 1970 already, they
have
> > these POS weigh systems at checkout so's ya can get produce weighed
there...
>
> The European system is self-serve. You go to the scale in the produce
> section, push the button for the particular item, the scale spits out
> a bar coded sticker with the weight and price. No need to look for
> anyone. The buttons have pictures of the produce, so you don't even
> have to speak the local language. It's probably cheaper to maintain
> 1 or 2 scales in the produce department than 5 or 10 at the checkout
> lanes. Why your Treasure Island place doesn't make it self-serve
> is the real question.


They're cheap, that's why. Actually, if a produce person is not around I
just do it myself, very simple. I guess they think that people will cheat
or something if it's self - weigh...

This is also the same place where they keep liquor in locked cabinets, you
have to hunt down someone to open the cabinet for you...kinda gives
"America's Most European Supermarket" (as they advertise themselves) that
old "ghetto" feel. They don't have modern anti-theft safeguards in
place...I guess by "America's Most European Supermarket" they mean Poland in
1958 or something.


--
Best
Greg

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:

>> I'm happy with letting the cashier weigh the produce. I know 'they'
>> would be happy if you'd just learn everyone's job and they could
>> get by with one employee. By the time you weigh your own
>> produce, self-checkout, pump your own gas, why bother hiring
>> anyone. Let the customer do it.

> See, you should get a little discount for all that self-serve jazz, I
> know for gas self-serve is usually cheaper (but IIRC you don't have
> self-serve gas in NJ).

And last I heard, cheaper gas than most places, too.

> Considering the "skill" of many grocery baggers I'd just as soon do
> that myself, that's the way it's done at Aldi and in some places
> abroad, Germany IIRC...

I do my own bagging too ... sometimes they have baggers, most
of the time they don't. I'd rather do my own, if nothing else I
don't wind up with 20 bags for 20 items.

And sometimes I actually remember to bring my own bags,
that's always nice. I bet where Blinky is, he always remembers
to bring his bags now.

nancy

George Shirley wrote:

> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Gregory Morrow > wrote:
> >>
> >>> ViLco is in Italy, it's the "European" way of getting produce weighed
I
> >>> guess...
> >>> At the Treasure Island grocery chain here in Chicawgo you have to get
> > yer
> >>> produce weighed in the produce dept., I consider it a big PITA. I
don't
> >>> like having to interact with store employees any more than is
absolutely
> >>> necessary...half the time I have to run around finding someone to
weigh
> > the
> >>> stuff, the weigher is rude, etc., etc. I mean it's 1970 already, they
> > have
> >>> these POS weigh systems at checkout so's ya can get produce weighed
> > there...
> >> The European system is self-serve. You go to the scale in the produce
> >> section, push the button for the particular item, the scale spits out
> >> a bar coded sticker with the weight and price. No need to look for
> >> anyone. The buttons have pictures of the produce, so you don't even
> >> have to speak the local language. It's probably cheaper to maintain
> >> 1 or 2 scales in the produce department than 5 or 10 at the checkout
> >> lanes. Why your Treasure Island place doesn't make it self-serve
> >> is the real question.
> >
> >
> > They're cheap, that's why. Actually, if a produce person is not around
I
> > just do it myself, very simple. I guess they think that people will
cheat
> > or something if it's self - weigh...
> >
> > This is also the same place where they keep liquor in locked cabinets,
you
> > have to hunt down someone to open the cabinet for you...kinda gives
> > "America's Most European Supermarket" (as they advertise themselves)
that
> > old "ghetto" feel. They don't have modern anti-theft safeguards in
> > place...I guess by "America's Most European Supermarket" they mean
Poland in
> > 1958 or something.
> >
> >
> Most of the supermarkets in our town have the cigarettes and spirits
> locked up and a checker, bagger, or supervisor has to go get them for
> you. Beer and wine are on the shelves in the main store.


Most supermarkets here have all the liquor out on the shelves, it's just odd
that this particular Treasure Island store does not. But they don't have
any modern anti-theft tagging technology, so. Until a few years ago they
actually had a person roaming the store posing as a customer, this person
was actually a security guard who'd try to catch people stealing. Shades of
the "house dick" hotel detectives you'd see in old movies...!!!


> Certain toiletry items are also locked up and you have to pull a tag and
> then the checker rings it up and someone goes and gets the item for you.
> PITA but about the only way the store can control theft of high value
> items I guess. Every time Schick or Gillette sends out a new razor as a
> "free" gift the stores have to lock up the replacement blades.
>


At Walgreen's there is a button you can push if you need any razor blades,
etc., a clerk comes right over to fetch it for you. Stick deodorant is
also a "high value" item now, I guess...who knew?


> Human nature never fails to amaze me, particularly the stuff people will
> steal rather than pay the price marked on it. About like the people you
> see letting their kids eat cookies, fruit, etc. while they're shopping
> and then you see the empty container on a shelf somewhere. What are they
> teaching their children? It's now wonder this country is going to hell
> in a hand basket as far as personal honesty.


Yes...


--
Best
Greg

"George Shirley" > wrote in message
news
> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Gregory Morrow > wrote:
>>>
>>>> ViLco is in Italy, it's the "European" way of getting produce weighed I
>>>> guess...
>>>> At the Treasure Island grocery chain here in Chicawgo you have to get
>> yer
>>>> produce weighed in the produce dept., I consider it a big PITA. I
>>>> don't
>>>> like having to interact with store employees any more than is
>>>> absolutely
>>>> necessary...half the time I have to run around finding someone to weigh
>> the
>>>> stuff, the weigher is rude, etc., etc. I mean it's 1970 already, they
>> have
>>>> these POS weigh systems at checkout so's ya can get produce weighed
>> there...
>>> The European system is self-serve. You go to the scale in the produce
>>> section, push the button for the particular item, the scale spits out
>>> a bar coded sticker with the weight and price. No need to look for
>>> anyone. The buttons have pictures of the produce, so you don't even
>>> have to speak the local language. It's probably cheaper to maintain
>>> 1 or 2 scales in the produce department than 5 or 10 at the checkout
>>> lanes. Why your Treasure Island place doesn't make it self-serve
>>> is the real question.
>>
>>
>> They're cheap, that's why. Actually, if a produce person is not around I
>> just do it myself, very simple. I guess they think that people will
>> cheat
>> or something if it's self - weigh...
>>
>> This is also the same place where they keep liquor in locked cabinets,
>> you
>> have to hunt down someone to open the cabinet for you...kinda gives
>> "America's Most European Supermarket" (as they advertise themselves) that
>> old "ghetto" feel. They don't have modern anti-theft safeguards in
>> place...I guess by "America's Most European Supermarket" they mean Poland
>> in
>> 1958 or something.
>>
>>
> Most of the supermarkets in our town have the cigarettes and spirits
> locked up and a checker, bagger, or supervisor has to go get them for you.
> Beer and wine are on the shelves in the main store.
>
> Certain toiletry items are also locked up and you have to pull a tag and
> then the checker rings it up and someone goes and gets the item for you.
> PITA but about the only way the store can control theft of high value
> items I guess. Every time Schick or Gillette sends out a new razor as a
> "free" gift the stores have to lock up the replacement blades.
>
> Human nature never fails to amaze me, particularly the stuff people will
> steal rather than pay the price marked on it. About like the people you
> see letting their kids eat cookies, fruit, etc. while they're shopping and
> then you see the empty container on a shelf somewhere. What are they
> teaching their children? It's now wonder this country is going to hell in
> a hand basket as far as personal honesty.

You haven't a clue, you're not being logical, one has nothing to do with the
other. Alcohol and tobacco is locked up because US law now says one has to
be a certain age to purchase/consume those items. Wasn't too very long ago
sample cigs and booze was doled out with abandon, now they can't even be
advertised. When I was five years old my mother would send me up to the
corner store with $3 to buy her a carton or Ralieghs.. my grandfather did
likewise but I bought him Chesterfields. At five years old I could buy beer
too.

But food sampling is an entirely unrelated issue. Stores don't mind that
folks sample food on premises, many stores encourage sampling in hopes
people will buy, and they do... food purveyers have always encouraged
sampling... pet food purveyers know you can't bring your pet in the store so
they will gladly mail samples to pet owner's homes. Stores know that some
small percentage are hogs who will eat more than a sample, but so what, most
folks who sample will buy (even the hogs) and it's the business they're
after... stores are in the business of generating revenue, not displaying
wares that no one will buy like at a museum with the gestapo guarding
everything. And I don't concern myself with what folks eat while shopping,
I do take great offence by what food is wasted, perishables left
unrefrigerated, spoiled food sold as fresh is what's a crime, and mostly
it's the store itself that's responsible.

When a stupidmarket customer drops 2-3 hundred dollars and more at the
register each week the store doesn't give a rat's b-hind that they ate a 99¢
pound of grapes, that the store only paid 20¢ for, and how many more pounds
won't get sold and will rot if folks aren't permitted free range sampling.

You could never be a successful business person. I know for a fact from
personal experience that sampling is figured into the selling price of
goods, all part of "shrinkage", which includes shoplifting. When cherries
are marked $2.99/lb at least 50¢ was added for sampling. Those whose
religious training fills them with such fear of guilt that they don't take
their fair share of samples were educated to be idealistic failures,
idealists but failures nevertheless.

> ViLco wrote:
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The European system is self-serve. You go to the scale in the
>>> produce section, push the button for the particular item, the scale
>>> spits out a bar coded sticker with the weight and price. No need to
>>> look for anyone.
>>
>> Exactly so.

That's a very poor system, it encourages stealing... what's to stop someone
from adding more product after weighing... leave it to the guineas.

> wrote in message
...
On Mar 26, 10:36 am, "ViLco" > wrote:
> wrote:
> > The European system is self-serve. You go to the scale in the produce
> > section, push the button for the particular item, the scale spits out
> > a bar coded sticker with the weight and price. No need to look for
> > anyone.
>
>
That's the way it is at my Kroger. Pick out what you want, put it in
a plastic bag, key in the product code and the price and weight is
printed on a sticker. Adhere sticker to said plastic bag and you're
on your way.

Why bother, that's like a waste of time... doncha hafta like seal the bag
*before* it's weighed? duh And then someone is going to poke a hole and
fress, and toss the bag in a corner before ever getting to the register. DUH

Nancy Young wrote:

> Ophelia wrote:
> > ViLco wrote:
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The European system is self-serve. You go to the scale in the
> >>> produce section, push the button for the particular item, the scale
> >>> spits out a bar coded sticker with the weight and price. No need to
> >>> look for anyone.
> >>
> >> Exactly so.
> >
> > In the supermarkets around where I live, there are scales near the
> > produce but only to check for yourself. The items are put onto a
> > flat scale in front of the till at the checkout and the prices added
> > to your bill.
>
> That's how it is in the stores where I shop. Whole Foods is the
> exception in that you weigh your own bulk items.
>
> I'm happy with letting the cashier weigh the produce. I know 'they'
> would be happy if you'd just learn everyone's job and they could
> get by with one employee. By the time you weigh your own
> produce, self-checkout, pump your own gas, why bother hiring
> anyone. Let the customer do it.


See, you should get a little discount for all that self-serve jazz, I know
for gas self-serve is usually cheaper (but IIRC you don't have self-serve
gas in NJ).

Considering the "skill" of many grocery baggers I'd just as soon do that
myself, that's the way it's done at Aldi and in some places abroad, Germany
IIRC...


--
Best
Greg

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:38:07 GMT, ViLco wrote:

> > My typical in-line-before-me is a dumbass who asks the cashier the price of
> > something the cashier has just passed on the barcode reader and so it's
> > "sold", then the dumbass says "No, I don't want it" so the cashier has to
> > call (and wait for) the store chief who has the keycard which allows the
> > cashier to delete a sold item.

> sounds more like a dumbass checkout system rather than a dumbass customer.
> they have no scale at checkout? the checker has to get permission to fart?

Lots of weirdness with cashiers in stores. That big display that shows
*you* how much the purchase was rung up for? It's big enough that the
manager can see it also. Even if the manager doesn't see it, if the
cashier rings up your purchase for 5, and tells you it's 15, with the
idea of pocketing 10, you'll say something. Say you buy a bottle of
wine for 10, it's rung up for 10 and you pay 10. Later, the cashier
shuts down the line for a break. After the last customer, they cancel
your sale and pocket the 10. Who's going to know? You've got your wine
and a receipt that shows you've paid, and the drawer will balance out at
the end of the day.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

aem wrote:
> I stopped at the store to restock the larder, the list included pinto
> beans. There were two or three brands on the shelf, one of which was
> on sale, so I picked that bag. Now I'm in the checkout line and the
> woman behind me points at the bag of beans and asks, "how much were
> they?" "I don't know," I said truthfully, not bothering to say I knew
> they were the cheapest on offer. "What?! You don't know?!" and she's
> off on a whole tirade about how amazing it is to her that anyone could
> buy anything without knowing the price. And that she couldn't
> remember the last time she bought anything without knowing the price.
> None of it required any answer from me, so I didn't say anything
> more. She was still mumbling about it when I left.
>
> I think I'm as careful a shopper as most but I don't have to keep all
> the numbers in my brain, ya know? It's not as though two pounds of
> beans was gonna break my bank. -aem
>
>


Basically it was none of her d@mned business what you were
buying, how much you were paying, or why.

Practice saying "I'm sorry, but I never discuss money with
strangers."
Phbbbbbt.

gloria p

"Puester" wrote:
> aem wrote:
>> I stopped at the store to restock the larder, the list included pinto
>> beans. There were two or three brands on the shelf, one of which was
>> on sale, so I picked that bag. Now I'm in the checkout line and the
>> woman behind me points at the bag of beans and asks, "how much were
>> they?" "I don't know," I said truthfully, not bothering to say I knew
>> they were the cheapest on offer. "What?! You don't know?!" and she's
>> off on a whole tirade about how amazing it is to her that anyone could
>> buy anything without knowing the price. And that she couldn't
>> remember the last time she bought anything without knowing the price.
>> None of it required any answer from me, so I didn't say anything
>> more. She was still mumbling about it when I left.
>>
>> I think I'm as careful a shopper as most but I don't have to keep all
>> the numbers in my brain, ya know? It's not as though two pounds of
>> beans was gonna break my bank. -aem
>>
>>
>
>
> Basically it was none of her d@mned business what you were buying, how
> much you were paying, or why.
>
> Practice saying "I'm sorry, but I never discuss money with strangers."
> Phbbbbbt.
>
> gloria p

I would have asked Ms Nosey how much she paid for her boob job.

On Mar 26, 12:28*pm, "brooklyn1" > wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
>
> That's the way it is at my Kroger. *Pick out what you want, put it in
> a plastic bag, key in the product code and the price and weight is
> printed on a sticker. *Adhere sticker to said plastic bag and you're
> on your way.
>
> Why bother, that's like a waste of time... doncha hafta like seal the bag
> *before* it's weighed? duh *And then someone is going to poke a hole and
> fress, and toss the bag in a corner before ever getting to the register. DUH
>
>
I don't quite understand your meaning. But no, I don't have to seal
the bag before it's weighed, I seal it after it's weighed as I might
want a bit more than what I have. I put it in the bag then tie a knot
in it after the label is affixed.

A prime example of doing this is with shallots. It's amazing the
checkers who don't know what this vegetable is. Then you tell them
"shallots" and they pick up their produce card that has the code for
that item on it. Everytime I bought these I would see the checker was
vainly looking in the "C's" for shallots. Then I have to tell them
how it's spelled and the searching starts all over again. So, it's
just easier to pick out what I want, put it on the scale in the
produce department, key in the code, and slap that sticky label to the
plastic bag.

The American school system at work.

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:17:15 -0500, Andy wrote:

> Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig said...
>
>> Christopher wrote:
>>> Some people are really good at keeping all that stuff in their heads.
>>> My mom was like that. Personally, when I'm in the checkout line the
>>> crazy, mumbling, jabbering flake is always directly in front of me,
>>> talking about everything and nothing to the clerk, writing a check for
>>> Tic Tacs or paying for a case of beer with a coffee can full of
>>> change. Last night I waited for some dumb bitch to run out of gab for
>>> over five minutes as my bottle of Coke Zero got warm. I have a
>>> freakish talent for getting behind these assholes. It never happens
>>> less than three time a week to me.
>>
>> It's undoubtedly your karma.
>>
>> peace
>> Lynn in Fargo
>
>
> Reminds me of a character in the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, I
> forget who but he was a rain God and didn't know it and lived his entire
> life with clouds following and raining on him constantly out of their
> love for him. LOL!!!
>
> THANK YOU DOUGLAS ADAMS!!! R.I.P.
>
> Andy

LOL !!

--
Groet, salut, Wim.

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:06:15 +0000, ViLco wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>
>> sounds more like a dumbass checkout system rather than a dumbass
>> customer. they have no scale at checkout? the checker has to get
>> permission to fart?
>
> No scales at the chockout, one has to weigh the produces using the
> scales in the produce section.
> And the checkers can't cancel "sold" items without that freakin' key...
> Dunno about the farts

Of course checkers cannot cancel "sold". It is an opening to fraud if they
could.

--
Groet, salut, Wim.

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:21:19 -0600, Gregory Morrow wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:38:07 GMT, ViLco wrote:
>>
>> > Christopher Helms wrote:
>> >
>> >> ...
>> >> Last night I waited for some dumb bitch to run out of gab for over
>> >> five minutes as my bottle of Coke Zero got warm. I have a freakish
>> >> talent for getting behind these assholes. It never happens less than
>> >> three time a week to me.
>> >
>> > LOL, we share the same "talent"
>> > My typical in-line-before-me is a dumbass who asks the cashier the
>> > price
> of
>> > something the cashier has just passed on the barcode reader and so
>> > it's "sold", then the dumbass says "No, I don't want it" so the
>> > cashier has
> to
>> > call (and wait for) the store chief who has the keycard which allows
>> > the cashier to delete a sold item. Then there are the dumbasses who
>> > buy
> produces
>> > and forget to weigh and label them, so they have to get back to the
> produce
>> > section, weigh the damn veggies and get back to the line, all this
>> > while
> the
>> > cashier and us other inline are waiting. I hate lines, I think I will
>> > die in a line [C. Bucowski]
>>
>> sounds more like a dumbass checkout system rather than a dumbass
>> customer. they have no scale at checkout?
>
> ViLco is in Italy, it's the "European" way of getting produce weighed I
> guess...
>
> At the Treasure Island grocery chain here in Chicawgo you have to get
> yer produce weighed in the produce dept., I consider it a big PITA. I
> don't like having to interact with store employees any more than is
> absolutely necessary...half the time I have to run around finding
> someone to weigh the stuff, the weigher is rude, etc., etc. I mean it's
> 1970 already, they have these POS weigh systems at checkout so's ya can
> get produce weighed there...

Problem is: checkers cannot decide between apples and pears, let alone
varieties of pears..
--
Groet, salut, Wim.

Some people are really good at keeping all that stuff in their heads.
My mom was like that. Personally, when I'm in the checkout line the
crazy, mumbling, jabbering flake is always directly in front of me,
talking about everything and nothing to the clerk, writing a check for
Tic Tacs or paying for a case of beer with a coffee can full of
change. Last night I waited for some dumb bitch to run out of gab for
over five minutes as my bottle of Coke Zero got warm. I have a
freakish talent for getting behind these assholes. It never happens
less than three time a week to me.

You must be who I caught that disease from. :-) I've been feeling especially
cursed lately. 2 People ahead of me in the express checkout line at the
supermarket yesterday with 3 items each and it still took me 20 minutes to
get out of the store. They each had 2 items that would not scan and they
could not find a manager to get them a price.

Jon

Wim van Bemmel said...

> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:17:15 -0500, Andy wrote:
>
>> Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig said...
>>
>>> Christopher wrote:
>>>> Some people are really good at keeping all that stuff in their heads.
>>>> My mom was like that. Personally, when I'm in the checkout line the
>>>> crazy, mumbling, jabbering flake is always directly in front of me,
>>>> talking about everything and nothing to the clerk, writing a check for
>>>> Tic Tacs or paying for a case of beer with a coffee can full of
>>>> change. Last night I waited for some dumb bitch to run out of gab for
>>>> over five minutes as my bottle of Coke Zero got warm. I have a
>>>> freakish talent for getting behind these assholes. It never happens
>>>> less than three time a week to me.
>>>
>>> It's undoubtedly your karma.
>>>
>>> peace
>>> Lynn in Fargo
>>
>>
>> Reminds me of a character in the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, I
>> forget who but he was a rain God and didn't know it and lived his entire
>> life with clouds following and raining on him constantly out of their
>> love for him. LOL!!!
>>
>> THANK YOU DOUGLAS ADAMS!!! R.I.P.
>>
>> Andy
>
> LOL !!


Wim van Bemmel,

Can you imagine?!!

LOLOL!!!

Best,

Andy

On Mar 26, 11:26*am, wrote:

> The European system is self-serve. *You go to the scale in the produce
> section, push the button for the particular item, the scale spits out
> a bar coded sticker with the weight and price. *No need to look for
> anyone. *The buttons have pictures of the produce, so you don't even
> have to speak the local language. *It's probably cheaper to maintain
> 1 or 2 scales in the produce department than 5 or 10 at the checkout
> lanes. *Why your Treasure Island place doesn't make it self-serve
> is the real question.
>
> Bill Ranck
> Blacksburg, Va.

That's showing up around here. Stop & Shop has hand-held scanners, so
you scan items as you drop them in your cart. You can price check,
and they have the scale that prints the stickers for the produce. Get
to the self-serve checkout and the scanner tells you what you owe,
stick it in the slot and you're on your way. At this point they
probably have security cameras watching to make sure you're not
labeling the mesclun as iceburg or something.

Now, if they'd just let me use a knife in the meat department.....
;-)
maxine in ri

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:36:50 +0000, ViLco wrote:

> wrote:
>
>> The European system is self-serve. You go to the scale in the produce
>> section, push the button for the particular item, the scale spits out a
>> bar coded sticker with the weight and price. No need to look for
>> anyone.
>
> Exactly so.

There are lots of possibilities to fraud with this system. To detect them
a scale is needed at POS as well, as a minimum.

--
Groet, salut, Wim.

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:24:19 +0000, brooklyn1 wrote:

>> ViLco wrote:
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The European system is self-serve. You go to the scale in the
>>>> produce section, push the button for the particular item, the scale
>>>> spits out a bar coded sticker with the weight and price. No need to
>>>> look for anyone.
>>>
>>> Exactly so.
>
> That's a very poor system, it encourages stealing... what's to stop
> someone from adding more product after weighing... leave it to the
> guineas.

Or fill with ginger, and label potatoes.

--
Groet, salut, Wim.

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:11:35 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

> Ophelia wrote:
>> ViLco wrote:
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The European system is self-serve. You go to the scale in the
>>>> produce section, push the button for the particular item, the scale
>>>> spits out a bar coded sticker with the weight and price. No need to
>>>> look for anyone.
>>>
>>> Exactly so.
>>
>> In the supermarkets around where I live, there are scales near the
>> produce but only to check for yourself. The items are put onto a flat
>> scale in front of the till at the checkout and the prices added to your
>> bill.
>
> That's how it is in the stores where I shop. Whole Foods is the
> exception in that you weigh your own bulk items.
>
> I'm happy with letting the cashier weigh the produce. I know 'they'
> would be happy if you'd just learn everyone's job and they could get by
> with one employee. By the time you weigh your own produce,
> self-checkout, pump your own gas, why bother hiring anyone. Let the
> customer do it.
>
> nancy

Never heard the cashier ask: "What is this ? " ...

--
Groet, salut, Wim.

brooklyn1 wrote:

> > ViLco wrote:
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The European system is self-serve. You go to the scale in the
> >>> produce section, push the button for the particular item, the scale
> >>> spits out a bar coded sticker with the weight and price. No need to
> >>> look for anyone.
> >>
> >> Exactly so.
>
> That's a very poor system, it encourages stealing... what's to stop
someone
> from adding more product after weighing... leave it to the guineas.
>


Q: Why does the new Italian Navy use glass-bottomed boats?

A: So they can steer clear of the old Italian Navy...


--
Best
Greg

Wim van Bemmel wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:11:35 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

>> I'm happy with letting the cashier weigh the produce. I know 'they'
>> would be happy if you'd just learn everyone's job and they could get
>> by with one employee. By the time you weigh your own produce,
>> self-checkout, pump your own gas, why bother hiring anyone. Let the
>> customer do it.

> Never heard the cashier ask: "What is this ? " ...

A couple of times. For the most part it's no trouble.

nancy

Puester wrote:
> aem wrote:

>> I think I'm as careful a shopper as most but I don't have to keep all
>> the numbers in my brain, ya know? It's not as though two pounds of
>> beans was gonna break my bank.

> Basically it was none of her d@mned business what you were
> buying, how much you were paying, or why.
>
> Practice saying "I'm sorry, but I never discuss money with
> strangers." Phbbbbbt.

A short time after Christmas one year I was waiting on line at
Williams-Sonoma and one of my items was dish towels. A woman
walks up behind me in line and says, How much are those towels?
(I think they are $16 a 4 pack. Whatever) I told her. Wordlessly
she showed me her towels. Pointed at the price. $7. I thought
it was cute of her, I just really didn't want the green and red
Christmas striped ones that were on sale.

I did feel chastened. She was nice about it but I got the message.
Still paid my $16.

nancy

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:38:29 -0500, Andy wrote:

> Wim van Bemmel said...
>
>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:17:15 -0500, Andy wrote:
>>
>>> Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig said...
>>>
>>>> Christopher wrote:
>>>>> Some people are really good at keeping all that stuff in their
>>>>> heads. My mom was like that. Personally, when I'm in the checkout
>>>>> line the crazy, mumbling, jabbering flake is always directly in
>>>>> front of me, talking about everything and nothing to the clerk,
>>>>> writing a check for Tic Tacs or paying for a case of beer with a
>>>>> coffee can full of change. Last night I waited for some dumb bitch
>>>>> to run out of gab for over five minutes as my bottle of Coke Zero
>>>>> got warm. I have a freakish talent for getting behind these
>>>>> assholes. It never happens less than three time a week to me.
>>>>
>>>> It's undoubtedly your karma.
>>>>
>>>> peace
>>>> Lynn in Fargo
>>>
>>>
>>> Reminds me of a character in the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, I
>>> forget who but he was a rain God and didn't know it and lived his
>>> entire life with clouds following and raining on him constantly out of
>>> their love for him. LOL!!!
>>>
>>> THANK YOU DOUGLAS ADAMS!!! R.I.P.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> LOL !!
>
>
> Wim van Bemmel,
>
> Can you imagine?!!
>
> LOLOL!!!
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

It is because I imagine that I am laughing my ass out !!
--
Groet, salut, Wim.

On Mar 25, 6:30*pm, Christopher Helms > wrote:
> On Mar 25, 9:28*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>
> > Christopher Helms wrote:
>
> > > My mom was like that. Personally, when I'm in the checkout line the
> > > crazy, mumbling, jabbering flake is always directly in front of me,
> > > talking about everything and nothing to the clerk, writing a check for
> > > Tic Tacs or paying for a case of beer with a coffee can full of
> > > change. Last night I waited for some dumb bitch to run out of gab for
> > > over five minutes as my bottle of Coke Zero got warm. I have a
> > > freakish talent for getting behind these assholes. It never happens
> > > less than three time a week to me.
>
> > That's what happens when you go shopping at 2 AM.
>
> 2AM, 7:25PM, midmorning, lunch, whatever. It doesn't seem to matter.
> It's almost like they're there waiting for me.

Happens to me too. It's like I'm a magnet to the psychotic world.

brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> I would have asked Ms Nosey how much she paid for her boob job.

Yes, but you do that anyway, beans or no beans. :-)

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> Wim van Bemmel wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:11:35 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> I'm happy with letting the cashier weigh the produce. I know 'they'
>>> would be happy if you'd just learn everyone's job and they could get
>>> by with one employee. By the time you weigh your own produce,
>>> self-checkout, pump your own gas, why bother hiring anyone. Let the
>>> customer do it.
>
>> Never heard the cashier ask: "What is this ? " ...
>
> A couple of times. For the most part it's no trouble.
>
> nancy

I can't remember the last time the check-out asked what kinda produce...
these days it's either in marked plastic bags, tied with wires/elastics with
the code printed, and all those miserable stickers what take the skin off
with them... don't need to know what it is, most everything has the code
number tattooed. Even grapes, cherries, berries and such are already in a
marked container that just needs weighing at check out. Very, very few
produce products are not already marked and those that aren't any five year
old knows what it is, like ears of corn, heads of cabbage, loose
onions/potatoes, and garlic. Small hot peppers are not marked, but they
know they're hot peppers and stupidmarkets don't have more than a couple
three kinds.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> Puester wrote:
>> aem wrote:
>
>>> I think I'm as careful a shopper as most but I don't have to keep all
>>> the numbers in my brain, ya know? It's not as though two pounds of
>>> beans was gonna break my bank.
>
>> Basically it was none of her d@mned business what you were
>> buying, how much you were paying, or why.
>>
>> Practice saying "I'm sorry, but I never discuss money with
>> strangers." Phbbbbbt.
>
> A short time after Christmas one year I was waiting on line at
> Williams-Sonoma and one of my items was dish towels. A woman
> walks up behind me in line and says, How much are those towels?
> (I think they are $16 a 4 pack. Whatever) I told her. Wordlessly
> she showed me her towels. Pointed at the price. $7. I thought
> it was cute of her, I just really didn't want the green and red
> Christmas striped ones that were on sale.
> I did feel chastened. She was nice about it but I got the message.
> Still paid my $16.
>
> nancy

Depends... sometimes it's a senior 20 years older than me just trying to be
helpful, then I think it's cute.... or some 87 year old woman hitting on me.
LOL

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> Puester wrote:
>> aem wrote:
>
>>> I think I'm as careful a shopper as most but I don't have to keep all
>>> the numbers in my brain, ya know? It's not as though two pounds of
>>> beans was gonna break my bank.
>
>> Basically it was none of her d@mned business what you were
>> buying, how much you were paying, or why.
>>
>> Practice saying "I'm sorry, but I never discuss money with
>> strangers." Phbbbbbt.
>
> A short time after Christmas one year I was waiting on line at
> Williams-Sonoma and one of my items was dish towels. A woman
> walks up behind me in line and says, How much are those towels?
> (I think they are $16 a 4 pack. Whatever) I told her. Wordlessly
> she showed me her towels. Pointed at the price. $7. I thought
> it was cute of her, I just really didn't want the green and red
> Christmas striped ones that were on sale.
> I did feel chastened. She was nice about it but I got the message.
> Still paid my $16.
>
> nancy



Sometimes people are trying to be helpful. Sounds more like an
interrogation on the OP's part. I wouldn't want Christmas towels no matter
what the price.

I did once point out that frozen biscuits beat the heck out of biscuits in a
tube. The shoppers were free to take my suggestion or not. They did head
off to the freezer section We weren't already in the checkout line at
the time.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> A short time after Christmas one year I was waiting on line at
>> Williams-Sonoma and one of my items was dish towels. A woman
>> walks up behind me in line and says, How much are those towels?
>> (I think they are $16 a 4 pack. Whatever) I told her. Wordlessly
>> she showed me her towels. Pointed at the price. $7. I thought
>> it was cute of her, I just really didn't want the green and red
>> Christmas striped ones that were on sale.
>> I did feel chastened. She was nice about it but I got the message.
>> Still paid my $16.

> Sometimes people are trying to be helpful. Sounds more like an
> interrogation on the OP's part.

The story would have been different if she'd started going on
how she wouldn't pay full price ever in her life blah blah. She
was just nicely pointing out that I could get the exact-same-only-
different towels for much less money. I wasn't knocking her.

> I did once point out that frozen biscuits beat the heck out of
> biscuits in a tube. The shoppers were free to take my suggestion or
> not. They did head off to the freezer section We weren't already
> in the checkout line at the time.

That was nice of you. I hardly notice the other shoppers or what
they are buying unless they are standing in my way or are
being annoying in line. 99.9% of my shopping trips are completely
uneventful. The way I like it.

nancy

brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> I can't remember the last time the check-out asked what kinda produce...
> these days it's either in marked plastic bags, tied with wires/elastics with
> the code printed, and all those miserable stickers what take the skin off
> with them... don't need to know what it is, most everything has the code
> number tattooed. Even grapes, cherries, berries and such are already in a
> marked container that just needs weighing at check out. Very, very few
> produce products are not already marked and those that aren't any five year
> old knows what it is, like ears of corn, heads of cabbage, loose
> onions/potatoes, and garlic. Small hot peppers are not marked, but they
> know they're hot peppers and stupidmarkets don't have more than a couple
> three kinds.

Within a few years, there will be RFID tags on everything,
and items won't have to be individually scanned. They'll
be able to scan your whole cart without even taking anything
out of it.

I've been wondering about how this will change shopping.
I expect the markets will simultaneously attempt to eliminate
bagging, by having the customer put purchases in a bag while
shopping. You'll pay by swiping a card or maybe using your
cellphone. Instead of express lines, there will be slow lines
for people using cash. And Safeway will still pay out 25 cents
change as two dimes and a nickel instead of a quarter, those
*******s!

On Mar 26, 12:19*pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
> I did once point out that frozen biscuits beat the heck out of biscuits in a
> tube. *The shoppers were free to take my suggestion or not. *They did head
> off to the freezer section *We weren't already in the checkout line at
> the time.

Since I am no good at making biscuits I have looked for these frozen
biscuits that people speak of. Many times, with zero success. I've
looked, I think, in every section of those aisle-long freezer cases
and just can't find them. Frozen waffles, pancakes, and biscuits and
gravy but never biscuits by themselves. What's the secret about where
to look? -aem

wrote:
> On Mar 26, 12:19 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>> I did once point out that frozen biscuits beat the heck out of biscuits in a
>> tube. The shoppers were free to take my suggestion or not. They did head
>> off to the freezer section We weren't already in the checkout line at
>> the time.
>
> Since I am no good at making biscuits I have looked for these frozen
> biscuits that people speak of. Many times, with zero success. I've
> looked, I think, in every section of those aisle-long freezer cases
> and just can't find them. Frozen waffles, pancakes, and biscuits and
> gravy but never biscuits by themselves. What's the secret about where
> to look? -aem

Don't know about where you shop but the store I shop in has them in the
upright freezer cases and a sign up above that section says "Dough."

I like the Mary B. frozen southern biscuits although her buttermilk
biscuits run in the same pack for me. Beats the heck out of getting up
early to make biscuits for the youngun's when they come visiting. Set
the oven at 400F, a timer at 20 minutes, toss the pan of biscuits in and
wait for the timer to go off. Gives me time to make gravy, a nice
fritata, some sausage and bacon, maybe breakfast steaks, etc. Take out
two or three jars of homemade jams, jellies, and preserves, put the
butter on the table too. Damn! I'm getting hungry again.

wrote:

> Since I am no good at making biscuits I have looked for these frozen
> biscuits that people speak of. Many times, with zero success. I've
> looked, I think, in every section of those aisle-long freezer cases
> and just can't find them. Frozen waffles, pancakes, and biscuits and
> gravy but never biscuits by themselves. What's the secret about where
> to look?

Maybe by the frozen pie shells and pizza dough?

nancy

Sheldon wrote:

> I can't remember the last time the check-out asked what kinda produce...
> these days it's either in marked plastic bags, tied with wires/elastics
> with the code printed, and all those miserable stickers what take the skin
> off with them... don't need to know what it is, most everything has the
> code number tattooed. Even grapes, cherries, berries and such are already
> in a marked container that just needs weighing at check out. Very, very
> few produce products are not already marked and those that aren't any five
> year old knows what it is, like ears of corn, heads of cabbage, loose
> onions/potatoes, and garlic. Small hot peppers are not marked, but they
> know they're hot peppers and stupidmarkets don't have more than a couple
> three kinds.

Sounds like you shop at a supermarket with a shitty produce department. My
local Safeway has bins with at least half-a-dozen different kinds of
chilies, tamarind pods, yuca roots, malanga roots, and horseradish roots,
none of which bear labels. There are usually at least five different kinds
of cabbage and three different kinds of bok choy. Only about half the
produce has tags or labels; the person working the cash register is expected
to recognize the produce when it shows up at his or her station.

You wouldn't last ten minutes without asking, "What is this?"

- You couldn't tell the difference between a cantaloupe and an ambrosia
melon.

- You couldn't tell the difference between Thai basil and spearmint.

- You couldn't tell the difference between a bitter melon and an Armenian
cucumber.

- You couldn't tell the difference between edamame and baby fava beans.

- You have no idea what perilla is. You'd probably ring it up as mint.


Bob

Nancy Young wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> Since I am no good at making biscuits I have looked for these frozen
>> biscuits that people speak of. Many times, with zero success. I've
>> looked, I think, in every section of those aisle-long freezer cases
>> and just can't find them. Frozen waffles, pancakes, and biscuits and
>> gravy but never biscuits by themselves. What's the secret about where
>> to look?
>
> Maybe by the frozen pie shells and pizza dough?
> nancy


Our local stores have a very limited variety (i.e. one kind)
next to the frozen bread dough. I think both are "Rhodes"
brand.

gloria p

Sheldon showed his ignorance *again*:

> You haven't a clue, you're not being logical, one has nothing to do with
> the other. Alcohol and tobacco is locked up because US law now says one
> has to be a certain age to purchase/consume those items.

There is no federal law mandating that alcohol be locked away from the grasp
of shoppers, you clueless blathering moron! Alcohol is sold openly on the
shelves in supermarkets here in California. The reason alcohol is locked up
in the stores where YOU shop is that you and your neighbors are thieving
shitstains.


Bob

In article
>,
wrote:

> Since I am no good at making biscuits I have looked for these frozen
> biscuits that people speak of. Many times, with zero success. I've
> looked, I think, in every section of those aisle-long freezer cases
> and just can't find them. Frozen waffles, pancakes, and biscuits and
> gravy but never biscuits by themselves. What's the secret about where
> to look? -aem


I don't know but when I couldn't find them I asked one of the employees.
He took me right to them. Pillsbury makes frozen biscuits and packaged
in a heavy plastic bag. By the frozen bread dough. Bottom shelf. "-)
They're great if you want biscuits and gravy and I'm thinking one would
make a fine base for strawberry shortcake, too.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - pot pie
"What you say about someone else says more
about you than it does about the other person."

On Mar 26, 1:37*pm, "Zeppo" > wrote:
> Some people are really good at keeping all that stuff in their heads.

I buy limes often enough that I don't need to look at the code on the
little sticker. It's 4048.
>
> Jon

--Bryan

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Sheldon showed his ignorance *again*:
>
>> You haven't a clue, you're not being logical, one has nothing to do with
>> the other. Alcohol and tobacco is locked up because US law now says one
>> has to be a certain age to purchase/consume those items.
>
> There is no federal law mandating that alcohol be locked away from the
> grasp
> of shoppers, you clueless blathering moron! Alcohol is sold openly on the
> shelves in supermarkets here in California. The reason alcohol is locked
> up in the stores where YOU shop is that you and your neighbors are
> thieving shitstains.

Dunno about the shitstains part, but I do know that alcohol is sold on
open supermarket shelves in many states. In many other states, it is
not. In some states it is only available in liquor stores. And in some
states, only the state itself has the authority to operate a liquor
store and private ownership is not allowed. At its worst, in "dry"
areas, alcohol it's not available at all. None of it has to do with
thievery. It's about trying to legislate morality, assuring collection
of taxes, and politics.