On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:47:33 -0600, in rec.food.cooking you wrote:


>
> I don't know Peter Lucas, but I think you have misconstrued these messages.

I know nothing of Peter Lucas except the few posts I have read here. He
appears to be an unprincipled man and not someone I would consort with.

I have misconstrued nothing. The facts speak for themselves. He took it
upon himself to copy and paste medical information from a terminally ill
patient's journal and publish it on a global, public forum. He may as well
have taken a full page ad out in the New York Times. There is no excuse
for it. There is no possible way to justify it.

> Kili started her own CaringBridge site when she knew how ill she was. If I
> have read correctly, her husband asked to have these messages updated on
> CaringBridge and also in some of the newsgroups that Kili used.

So you feel that exposing this woman's suffering to the world is completely
acceptable? If you do, you are as morally bankrupt as Peter Lucas.

> She has many Internet friends here, and they requested information.

Her friends would be reading the updates on the Caringbridge website and
not discussing it in a public forum. In this day and age of electronic
technology there are other ways to distribute information if the "friend"
is unwilling to open a webpage. The simplest being private email.

> It is always a sensitive issue when deciding how much medical information to release, but I
> don't think these messages violate trust under these circumstances.

There should be nothing to decide. There should be no medical information
relased for the general public to read. Do you know for a fact there has
been no trust violation? What about family members? Does this woman's
family, ouside of her husband, realize their loved one's medical
information is being freely distributed throughout the globe by Peter
Lucas?

>The message posted her is a verbatim report from CaringBridge.

No it was not. He did not post the journal entry verbatim as you claim. He
could post anything he pleases and it looks like people in this newsgroup
will take it at face value. That is all beside the point. No medical
information, verbatim or otherwise, should have been posted. His reasoning
for doing this, on numerous occasions, is unconscionable.

Carla Bains

Carla Bains" <"carla bains wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:47:33 -0600, in rec.food.cooking you wrote:

> So you feel that exposing this woman's suffering to the world is
> completely acceptable? If you do, you are as morally bankrupt as
> Peter Lucas.

Snip....

The CaringBridge site is as open to "the world" as is what is posted on RFC.
--
Dave
What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before
you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan

"Carla Bains" wrote

>> I don't know Peter Lucas, but I think you have misconstrued these
>> messages.
>
> I know nothing of Peter Lucas except the few posts I have read here. He
> appears to be an unprincipled man and not someone I would consort with.
>
> I have misconstrued nothing. The facts speak for themselves. He took it
> upon himself to copy and paste medical information from a terminally ill
> patient's journal and publish it on a global, public forum. He may as well

You do not know the group or Kili. Kili and her husband post that *for* us
to keep up with what is going on. Peter only crossposted what most of us
get in our own email.

Dave Bugg wrote:
>
> Carla Bains" <"carla bains wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:47:33 -0600, in rec.food.cooking you wrote:
>
> > So you feel that exposing this woman's suffering to the world is
> > completely acceptable? If you do, you are as morally bankrupt as
> > Peter Lucas.
>
> Snip....
>
> The CaringBridge site is as open to "the world" as is what is posted on RFC.

It's Bevan Kirkland, again.

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:44:49 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote:

> Dave Bugg wrote:
>>
>> Carla Bains" <"carla bains wrote:
>> > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:47:33 -0600, in rec.food.cooking you wrote:
>>
>> > So you feel that exposing this woman's suffering to the world is
>> > completely acceptable? If you do, you are as morally bankrupt as
>> > Peter Lucas.
>>
>> Snip....
>>
>> The CaringBridge site is as open to "the world" as is what is posted on
>> RFC.
>
> It's Bevan Kirkland, again.

Yeah - sure it is, peter.

Mark Thorson > wrote in
:

> Dave Bugg wrote:
>>
>> Carla Bains" <"carla bains wrote:
>> > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:47:33 -0600, in rec.food.cooking you wrote:
>>
>> > So you feel that exposing this woman's suffering to the world is
>> > completely acceptable? If you do, you are as morally bankrupt as
>> > Peter Lucas.
>>
>> Snip....
>>
>> The CaringBridge site is as open to "the world" as is what is posted
>> on RFC.
>
> It's Bevan Kirkland, again.
>


Actually, I'm positive that kirkland is too stupid to be that vebose.

I checked the ISP, it's one of those that basically doesn't care what
you do as far as posting is concerned, and if other people are having a
problem with your posts, they are to get in touch with the local law
enforcement.

My money would be that "Carla Bains" is 'hey-zeus'.

That's the sort of slimey thing it would pull...... as it did previously
when it forged my name and header info in aioe.org.

All it took was one email from me, and that particular account was
cancelled.

Hence the move to www.altopia.com for 'hey-zeus'.

A simple killfile on "Carla Bains" will stop it's crap coming through.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

You will travel through the valley of rejection;
you will reside in the land of morning mists...and you will find your
home, though it will not be where you left it.

Carla Bains wrote:

Hello, scumpuppet.

Goodby, scumpuppet.

--
Dan Goodman
"I have always depended on the kindness of stranglers."
Tennessee Williams, A Streetcar Named Expire
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:45:58 +0000, Peter-Lucas wrote:

> Mark Thorson > wrote in
> :
>
>> Dave Bugg wrote:
>>>
>>> Carla Bains" <"carla bains wrote:
>>> > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:47:33 -0600, in rec.food.cooking you wrote:
>>>
>>> > So you feel that exposing this woman's suffering to the world is
>>> > completely acceptable? If you do, you are as morally bankrupt as
>>> > Peter Lucas.
>>>
>>> Snip....
>>>
>>> The CaringBridge site is as open to "the world" as is what is posted
>>> on RFC.
>>
>> It's Bevan Kirkland, again.
>
> Actually, I'm positive that kirkland is too stupid to be that vebose.
>
> I checked the ISP, it's one of those that basically doesn't care what
> you do as far as posting is concerned, and if other people are having a
> problem with your posts, they are to get in touch with the local law
> enforcement.
>
> My money would be that "Carla Bains" is 'hey-zeus'.

Glad you think it's me peter, makes me look worse in your eyes, LOL

> That's the sort of slimey thing it would pull...... as it did previously
> when it forged my name and header info in aioe.org.
>
> All it took was one email from me, and that particular account was
> cancelled.

Really? Can you explain why aioe does not, and never has - had "accounts".
That server has never required an account for posting, LOL. And it's been
down for quite some time, as is evidenced from so many comments in
various news groups.

> Hence the move to www.altopia.com for 'hey-zeus'.

Umm, you're seriously confused peter. I do have an altopia account, but I
don't use it for text posts, binary only. I wouldve done a few text posts
initially, but nothing relating to you, thats for sure.

It's laughable really, I've used the same server for about 18 months -
tornevall.net (sp). All you have to do is LOOK at my headers in this
group, you mentally challenged sociopath

> A simple killfile on "Carla Bains" will stop it's crap coming through.

Yep, that's what 'killfiles' are for pete

It's SO easy to prove you still read posts from those you claim to have
killfiled peter. And yet again, you've proven it.LOL.

If/when I decide to forge your posts... you'll certianly know about it
pete. I'd do a _much_ better job than the others have done <G>

In article >,
"Peter-Lucas" > wrote:


> >> Carla Bains" <"carla bains wrote:

> A simple killfile on "Carla Bains" will stop it's crap coming through.

Not *too* simple. I've killed it twice so far.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan Abel wrote:

> In article >,
> "Peter-Lucas" > wrote:
>
>
> > >> Carla Bains" <"carla bains wrote:
>
> > A simple killfile on "Carla Bains" will stop it's crap coming
> > through.
>
> Not too simple. I've killed it twice so far.

I don't know if this would work for newsreaders other than XanaNews,
but: Killfiling that name _only_ -- and not the edress -- worked.

--
Dan Goodman
"I have always depended on the kindness of stranglers."
Tennessee Williams, A Streetcar Named Expire
Journal http://dsgood.livejournal.com
Futures http://clerkfuturist.wordpress.com
Mirror Journal http://dsgood.insanejournal.com
Mirror 2 http://dsgood.wordpress.com
Links http://del.icio.us/dsgood

> Actually, I'm positive that kirkland is too stupid to be that vebose.

Another positive identification from Inspector Lucas.

>
> I checked the ISP, it's one of those that basically doesn't care what
> you do as far as posting is concerned, and if other people are having a
> problem with your posts, they are to get in touch with the local law
> enforcement.

By all means contact them.

>
> My money would be that "Carla Bains" is 'hey-zeus'.

You have no money to lose. Never bet what you don't have.

>
> That's the sort of slimey thing it would pull...... as it did previously
> when it forged my name and header info in aioe.org.

That is too funny Inspector Lucas.

>
> All it took was one email from me, and that particular account was
> cancelled.

Really? Do you have proof the account was cancelled due to your "one"
email?

>
> Hence the move to www.altopia.com for 'hey-zeus'.
>
> A simple killfile on "Carla Bains" will stop it's crap coming through.

That's it. Your usual statement. In reality Inspector Lucas, a simple kill
file on you will stop the crap coming.

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:33:05 -0500, in rec.food.cooking you wrote:

> You do not know the group or Kili. Kili and her husband post that *for* us
> to keep up with what is going on. Peter only crossposted what most of us
> get in our own email.

I see. You are confusing rec.food.cooking with a private country club. If
Peter Lucas cared in the least for Kili he would be emailing the updates to
those that claim they can't get them on Caringbridge. Because Carla doesn't
know Kili you believe she is not entitled to her own opinion? Do *you* know
Kili? Who do you think you are? Group Moderator?

"Lemonade" <" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:33:05 -0500, in rec.food.cooking you wrote:
>
>> You do not know the group or Kili. Kili and her husband post that *for*
>> us
>> to keep up with what is going on. Peter only crossposted what most of us
>> get in our own email.
>
> I see. You are confusing rec.food.cooking with a private country club. If
> Peter Lucas cared in the least for Kili he would be emailing the updates
> to
> those that claim they can't get them on Caringbridge. Because Carla
> doesn't
> know Kili you believe she is not entitled to her own opinion? Do *you*
> know
> Kili? Who do you think you are? Group Moderator?

What everyone knows is that you and the other anti-Lucas assholes are a
crashing bore. I can't stand him, but dislike your stalking horse shit more.

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:14:48 -0500, cybercat wrote:

> "Lemonade" <" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:33:05 -0500, in rec.food.cooking you wrote:
>>
>>> You do not know the group or Kili. Kili and her husband post that *for*
>>> us
>>> to keep up with what is going on. Peter only crossposted what most of us
>>> get in our own email.
>>
>> I see. You are confusing rec.food.cooking with a private country club. If
>> Peter Lucas cared in the least for Kili he would be emailing the updates
>> to
>> those that claim they can't get them on Caringbridge. Because Carla
>> doesn't
>> know Kili you believe she is not entitled to her own opinion? Do *you*
>> know
>> Kili? Who do you think you are? Group Moderator?
>
> What everyone knows is that you and the other anti-Lucas assholes are a
> crashing bore. I can't stand him, but dislike your stalking horse shit more.

the whole thing is pretty tedious, isn't it?

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:14:48 -0500, cybercat wrote:
>
>> "Lemonade" <" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:33:05 -0500, in rec.food.cooking you wrote:
>>>
>>>> You do not know the group or Kili. Kili and her husband post that
>>>> *for*
>>>> us
>>>> to keep up with what is going on. Peter only crossposted what most of
>>>> us
>>>> get in our own email.
>>>
>>> I see. You are confusing rec.food.cooking with a private country club.
>>> If
>>> Peter Lucas cared in the least for Kili he would be emailing the updates
>>> to
>>> those that claim they can't get them on Caringbridge. Because Carla
>>> doesn't
>>> know Kili you believe she is not entitled to her own opinion? Do *you*
>>> know
>>> Kili? Who do you think you are? Group Moderator?
>>
>> What everyone knows is that you and the other anti-Lucas assholes are a
>> crashing bore. I can't stand him, but dislike your stalking horse shit
>> more.
>
> the whole thing is pretty tedious, isn't it?
>

It's not even up to par with trolling. Trolling, at least, *can* be
amusing. (I actually found Boris to be pretty funny.)

Merry Christmas, love muffin. I am off to sunny climes tomorrow.

Lemonade wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:33:05 -0500, in rec.food.cooking you wrote:
>
>> You do not know the group or Kili. Kili and her husband post that *for* us
>> to keep up with what is going on. Peter only crossposted what most of us
>> get in our own email.
>
> I see. You are confusing rec.food.cooking with a private country club. If
> Peter Lucas cared in the least for Kili he would be emailing the updates to
> those that claim they can't get them on Caringbridge. Because Carla doesn't
> know Kili you believe she is not entitled to her own opinion? Do *you* know
> Kili? Who do you think you are? Group Moderator?


I trust that you realize that you are speaking for yourself. I care
about Kili's condition and know that many others do too. It's not a
private club. You don't have to read everything posted here. Killfile
the updates if you want.

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:24:03 -0500, cybercat wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:14:48 -0500, cybercat wrote:
>>

>>>
>>> What everyone knows is that you and the other anti-Lucas assholes are a
>>> crashing bore. I can't stand him, but dislike your stalking horse shit
>>> more.
>>
>> the whole thing is pretty tedious, isn't it?
>>
>
> It's not even up to par with trolling. Trolling, at least, *can* be
> amusing. (I actually found Boris to be pretty funny.)
>
> Merry Christmas, love muffin. I am off to sunny climes tomorrow.

have a good time. (that almost came out 'have a god time.')

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:24:03 -0500, cybercat wrote:
>
>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:14:48 -0500, cybercat wrote:
>>>
>
>>>>
>>>> What everyone knows is that you and the other anti-Lucas assholes are a
>>>> crashing bore. I can't stand him, but dislike your stalking horse shit
>>>> more.
>>>
>>> the whole thing is pretty tedious, isn't it?
>>>
>>
>> It's not even up to par with trolling. Trolling, at least, *can* be
>> amusing. (I actually found Boris to be pretty funny.)
>>
>> Merry Christmas, love muffin. I am off to sunny climes tomorrow.
>
> have a good time. (that almost came out 'have a god time.')
>

Thank you. It's going to be Wednesday now--better flight. I can shoot for a
God time.

cybercat wrote:
> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:24:03 -0500, cybercat wrote:
>>
>>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:14:48 -0500, cybercat wrote:
>>>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What everyone knows is that you and the other anti-Lucas assholes
>>>>> are a crashing bore. I can't stand him, but dislike your stalking
>>>>> horse shit more.
>>>>
>>>> the whole thing is pretty tedious, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's not even up to par with trolling. Trolling, at least, *can* be
>>> amusing. (I actually found Boris to be pretty funny.)
>>>
>>> Merry Christmas, love muffin. I am off to sunny climes tomorrow.
>>
>> have a good time. (that almost came out 'have a god time.')
>>
>
> Thank you. It's going to be Wednesday now--better flight. I can shoot
> for a God time.

Enjoy sweetie