If you could have...
 

Sheldon wrote:


>>> Tracy wrote:

>> At least I will be buying soon - and while I am not in the market for a
>> fixer upper - another thing I would pay to fix is new kitchen floor.
>
> I think you mean a new floor covering... most resales need new floor
> covering in every room, but not new floors
>

Well, yes, I suppose you are right. I am partial to wood floors, so that
is what we will be looking for. I won't want to install new wood floors,
but I'd pay to have them redone. As for kitchen flooring - I like
linoleum - but I haven't really researched yet. Friends just put in a
tile floor in their new home.

I strongly urge everyone
> buying a resale to have the entire dwelling professionally
> inspected... this allows the buyer to get out of the deal when the
> seller refuses to compensate for any defects discovered.

This is part of the process in buying a home in Massachusetts. You make
an offer which is contingent on the home inspection. The potential buyer
hires the inspector. Totally worth the cost. Before we bought our last
condo - one we almost bought was found to have black mold and we got out
of the deal. Also a house we looked at- the fuse box had had an obvious
fire. The thing had flame marks all over it. The owners refused to
upgrade the thing. We didn't buy it. It sat on the market for a long
time and while we were still looking saw the updated listing which said
the electric was upgraded. This was about 6 years ago.

We sold our condo last year in the nick of time and are renting till the
summer - hopefully when we buy again. We could potentially buy sooner if
we see something but I'd rather not break a lease.

-Tracy

If you could have...
 

ChattyCathy wrote:
> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
> (both big and small) etc.
>
> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
> ever, give us a list ;-)
>
> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>
> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
> about them here...

More cabinets and counter space. A pantry would do--or does that
count?

--
Jean B.

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Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> ChattyCathy > news:A0a_k.9445$lm5.3520
> @newsfe13.ams2: in rec.food.cooking
>
>> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
>> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
>> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
>> (both big and small) etc.
>>
>> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
>> ever, give us a list ;-)
>>
>> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>>
>> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
>> about them here...
>
> The one thing I've always wanted but can't justify spending the money on
> is a Kitchen Aid stand mixer. I don't bake and my stick blender is fine
> for most things and then I have an old mixer with the beaters on it for
> the rest.
>
> Other items:
>
> Trash compactor (I don't have the room for one)
> Self cleaning floor (They don't make 'em)
>
> Michael

If you ever get a KA mixer, you might try to find an old one, from
when Hobart was still making them.

--
Jean B.

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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> ChattyCathy wrote:
>> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
>> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
>> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
>> (both big and small) etc.
>>
>> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
>> ever, give us a list ;-)
>
> I have lust in my heart for a Kitchenaide stand mixer. I've wanted one
> forever. I just really don't have a place to put it.
>
> And I don't bake.
>
> I just want one. To have!
>
> nancy

I don't bake either-but hey, it was a gift (Linens-n-things is going out of
business-Kitchen Aid and Henckels, etc knives are even on sale).
I use it to grind meat, cheese, make pasta, etc.

If you could have...
 

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...
> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
> (both big and small) etc.
>
> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
> ever, give us a list ;-)
>
> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>
> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
> about them here...
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy

More and newer cabinet space (apartment dweller).

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George Shirley wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Dec 5, 8:28 am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>>> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
>>> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
>>> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
>>> (both big and small) etc.
>>>
>>> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
>>> ever, give us a list ;-)
>>>
>>> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>>>
>>> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
>>> about them here...
>>
>> Square footage. We've always intended to add on to the house to
>> enlarge
>> the kitchen, but it's starting to look like that's incompatible with a
>> retirement
>> plan that does not involve (a) dog food and/or (b) suicide.
>>
>> Of course, my "I won the lottery" fantasy includes really nice
>> cabinets, large
>> refrigerator and freezer (and a big ol' generator with an automatic
>> transfer switch),
>> lovely finishes on the walls and floors, gorgeous lighting that I
>> don't have to clean
>> myself.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
> Ahh, my dream home would be a very large kitchen, dining room, half bath
> and living room all in one space with three bedrooms and two bathrooms
> off to the end. Off the kitchen would be the 12X12 pantry with shelving,
> room for the big upright freezer, storage for large pots and pans, etc.
> Current pantry is 9X6 and just isn't big enough.
>
> Would help to have the patio kitchen available through a door from the
> kitchen. Should have a roof, large brick BBQ pit, gas grill, separate
> sink and faucet, wood and charcoal storage, etc.
>
> Now all I have to do is win the Powerball lottery.

Well, if we are asking for multiple things, I still want my
fireplace with brick ovens.

--
Jean B.

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"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...
> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
> (both big and small) etc.
>
> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
> ever, give us a list ;-)
>
> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>
> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
> about them here...
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy

I WANT a really nice big food processor, maybe Cuisinart or Kitchenaid.
I don't need one, I have a cheap model that is fine for the once every three
months I actually need to use it. My last I gotta have was an ice cream
machine
with a compressor so I didn't have to mess with ice or freezing the bucket.
I got a Lello Jr., haven't used it yet!

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> wrote in message
...
> On Dec 5, 8:28 am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
>> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
>> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
>> (both big and small) etc.
>>
>> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
>> ever, give us a list ;-)
>>
>> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>>
>> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
>> about them here...
>> --
>> Cheers
>> Chatty Cathy
>
> I'd love my fridge to die so I could justify buying a freezer on the
> bottom setup. On the cheaper side, a stick blender, but not sure I'd
> use it that much. Also, not in love with the border wallpaper in my
> kitchen from previous owner.

At least the freezer on the top is square-the freezer on the bottom is not
as large as is advertized.

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"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...
> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
> (both big and small) etc.
>
> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
> ever, give us a list ;-)
>
> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>
> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
> about them here...

I'd like to have an extension. My kitchen is too small.

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"Pete C." > wrote in message
ster.com...
>
> Andy wrote:
>>
>> Michael "Dog3" said...
>>
>> > We bought a new fridge
>> > with an ice maker and water dispenser during the remodel. I will say
>> > this
>> > now that I have one. I'll never do without an ice maker.
>>
>> If my water supply wasn't so over-chlorinated I'd use the icemaker. As it
>> is,
>> the cubes would ruin the flavor of any drinks.
>>
>> Andy
>
> Get an RO filter and feed the ice maker from that supply. Only $150 or
> so and an afternoon of installation.

Does anyone have any idea of what happens to the water line that runs to the
ice dispenser in the freezer if you have hard water?

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ChattyCathy > wrote in
:

> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for
> ages, but still don't have (assuming money was no object) what
> would it be? i.e. anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges,
> ovens and other appliances (both big and small) etc.
>
> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting
> after' for ever, give us a list ;-)
>
> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>
> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good
> things about them here...

A HUGE stove/oven with grill. Restaurant size. :-)

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Cheryl wrote:
>
> "Pete C." > wrote in message
> ster.com...
> >
> > Andy wrote:
> >>
> >> Michael "Dog3" said...
> >>
> >> > We bought a new fridge
> >> > with an ice maker and water dispenser during the remodel. I will say
> >> > this
> >> > now that I have one. I'll never do without an ice maker.
> >>
> >> If my water supply wasn't so over-chlorinated I'd use the icemaker. As it
> >> is,
> >> the cubes would ruin the flavor of any drinks.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> > Get an RO filter and feed the ice maker from that supply. Only $150 or
> > so and an afternoon of installation.
>
> Does anyone have any idea of what happens to the water line that runs to the
> ice dispenser in the freezer if you have hard water?

The total flow is pretty low so I wouldn't expect much to happen. The
PEX lines don't seen very prone to mineral buildup either and are
non-reactive. If you're really concerned feed the refrigerator from an
RO filter system.

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Kswck wrote:

> (Linens-n-things is going out of business-Kitchen Aid and Henckels, etc
> knives are even on sale).

Lin told me that investigators went into Linens-N-Things, peeled back some
of the "sale" stickers and found that the items had been marked *UP*.

Bob

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Janet Baraclough wrote:
>
> The message .com>
> from "Pete C." > contains these words:
>
> > Janet Baraclough wrote:
> > >
> > > The message >
> > > from PeterL > contains these words:
> > >
> > > > I *HATE* washing dishes.
> > >
> > > I *HATE* dishwashers. I had one (came with house) and was happy when
> > > it died. It did a perfect job, but I hate the noise, and the faffing
> > > of loading and emptying, and the way what you want to use is either
> > > lying in there dirty or in the middle of a cycle. I can wash up by hand
> > > just as well and one hell of a lot faster.
> > >
> > > I even hate other peoples dishwashers, don't get me started on that,
> > > Well, all right. I hate it when I can smell (or see) on their plates
> > > and glassware that their dishwasher filter is filthy or they ran out of
> > > rinse aid. When they say "oh, just put it in the machine " (followed by
> > > "no, not there.. that's where the cat dish fits ) I hate when they open
> > > the machine the smell of ancient decayed food particles wafts out as
> > > they take out the mugs for our coffee.. I hate it even more when
> > > dishwasher owners are mean to guests with the clean plates cutlery
> > > glasses or saucers ("oh, lets just use the same one again."..because
> > > there are none clean and they only run it once a day. Or worse. " Living
> > > on my own I just use it to store dirty dishes and only need to run it
> > > once a week" ugh.
> > >
> > > Rant over now.
> > >
> > > Janet
>
> > I guess you folks in the UK don't know how to maintain appliances, or
> > perhaps have other plumbing problems, as I have not ever experienced a
> > single one of the issues you noted with dishwashers here in the US.
>
> Keep reading the thread, you'll see Americans mentioning every issue.
> I guess that means you're very inexperienced :-)
>
> Janet

I've used dishwashers for years. I smelled mine a short while ago and it
didn't smell like anything, not even dishwasher detergent.

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Tracy wrote:
>
> Sheldon wrote:
>
> >>> Tracy wrote:
>
> >> At least I will be buying soon - and while I am not in the market for a
> >> fixer upper - another thing I would pay to fix is new kitchen floor.
> >
> > I think you mean a new floor covering... most resales need new floor
> > covering in every room, but not new floors
> >
>
> Well, yes, I suppose you are right. I am partial to wood floors, so that
> is what we will be looking for. I won't want to install new wood floors,
> but I'd pay to have them redone. As for kitchen flooring - I like
> linoleum - but I haven't really researched yet. Friends just put in a
> tile floor in their new home.
>
> I strongly urge everyone
> > buying a resale to have the entire dwelling professionally
> > inspected... this allows the buyer to get out of the deal when the
> > seller refuses to compensate for any defects discovered.
>
> This is part of the process in buying a home in Massachusetts. You make
> an offer which is contingent on the home inspection. The potential buyer
> hires the inspector. Totally worth the cost. Before we bought our last
> condo - one we almost bought was found to have black mold and we got out
> of the deal. Also a house we looked at- the fuse box had had an obvious
> fire. The thing had flame marks all over it. The owners refused to
> upgrade the thing. We didn't buy it. It sat on the market for a long
> time and while we were still looking saw the updated listing which said
> the electric was upgraded. This was about 6 years ago.
>
> We sold our condo last year in the nick of time and are renting till the
> summer - hopefully when we buy again. We could potentially buy sooner if
> we see something but I'd rather not break a lease.
>
> -Tracy

You can make an offer contingent on anything you want actually. It's up
to the seller to determine if they want to accept the offer, but your
contingencies are entirely valid. My last house purchase was contingent
on having cable modem service installed and successfully tested (needed
for work VPN). I of course covered the installation cost and was on hand
for testing.

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On Dec 5, 6:41 pm, "Kswck" > wrote:

> At least the freezer on the top is square-the freezer on the bottom is not
> as large as is advertized.

Who advertised? What was advertised? Anyhow, I wouldn't care. I
want more fridge room than freezer room. I don't believe in
stockpiling a lot of frozen food.

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On Dec 5, 5:06 pm, "l, not -l" > wrote:

>
> Scooba does a great job of cleaning this vinyl and, does it far more often
> than it got done when I was doing it with a mop. Every Sunday afternoon, I
> fill the Scooba with the majic Clorox Scooba cleaner (sometimes white
> vinegar) and warm water, put it down in the middle of the area, turn it on
> and go read the newspaper. When its done, I empty the dirty water, rinse
> beater brush and tank and put it away until the next week. The Clorox
> Scooba cleaner and white vinegar are the only recommended cleaning agents.

How long have you owned the Scooba? Anything you DON'T like about
it? I've been thinking of one vs. one of those steam mops I'd have to
push myself.

I have offwhite tile and it shows every drip and spot.

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In article >,
ChattyCathy > wrote:

> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
> (both big and small) etc.

Sausage stuffer and dishwasher- in that order.

D.M.

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Cheryl wrote:
> "Pete C." > wrote in message
> ster.com...
>>
>> Andy wrote:
>>>
>>> Michael "Dog3" said...
>>>
>>> > We bought a new fridge
>>> > with an ice maker and water dispenser during the remodel. I will
>>> say > this
>>> > now that I have one. I'll never do without an ice maker.
>>>
>>> If my water supply wasn't so over-chlorinated I'd use the icemaker.
>>> As it is,
>>> the cubes would ruin the flavor of any drinks.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> Get an RO filter and feed the ice maker from that supply. Only $150 or
>> so and an afternoon of installation.
>
> Does anyone have any idea of what happens to the water line that runs to
> the ice dispenser in the freezer if you have hard water?
>
If it is calcium hardness the line will eventually start to clog up. I'm
having that trouble with the water lines in the kitchen due to high
calcium hardness in the city water here. Only option is to put in a
water softener so I'm looking at all options now. The water lines are in
the slab so it makes it an expensive proposition to run new ones through
the attic and then down the walls.

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Janet Baraclough wrote:
> The message >
> from George Shirley > contains these words:
>
>>> I'd rather filter the entire water system from the meter, so tap water
>>> could be used for drinking, cooking, etc., not only ice. It would have to
>>> come with a 25 or 30 gallon reservoir like a hot water heater so it
>>> wouldn't reduce water pressure to a crawl while flushing, showering, wash
>>> rinse cycles, etc.
>
> No need for that. We fitted a tri-flow tap on the kitchen sinks,
> which turns to hot water, cold unfiltered water, and cold filtered water
> used
> for drinking and cooking (and ice, which I still make in trays) The
> filter sits under the sink and is fed by mains-pressure water (no need
> for tank).
> The filter cartridge lasts 6 months. Because of the filter, the
> filtered water pressure is below normal tap pressure but still quite
> fast enough to fill a pan or kettle
> in a few seconds. (even when other taps, showers flushes etc are running)
>
>
> Janet.
T'weren't my words Janet, was a response to a message I wrote.

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Janet Baraclough wrote:

>> I *HATE* washing dishes.
>
> I *HATE* dishwashers. I had one (came with house) and was happy when
> it died. It did a perfect job, but I hate the noise, and the faffing
> of loading and emptying, and the way what you want to use is either
> lying in there dirty or in the middle of a cycle. I can wash up by hand
> just as well and one hell of a lot faster.



I would not go so far as to emphasize that I hate dishwashers, but I
don't find them particularly useful. I don't think that it is much more
work to wash dishes by hand than it is to load a dishwasher and then
have to unload it. With just two of us here and a 8 settings of dishes
we can easily go 2-3 days without having to run the dishwasher... to do
the dishes. Meanwhile, we have to wash the pots and pans. By the time
you wash the pots from a meal it is only another minute or so to do the
plates, glasses and cutlery. When I am doing the cleanup I usually just
wash everything by hand and its done. I don't think that a dishwasher
saves me any time or work at all.

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On Dec 5, 9:11 am, Sheldon > wrote:
I'll never buy any coozinart product
> again, they engineer the most poorly thought out products...

agree. My waffle iron surprised me - I used to think they made a
quality product. But ,the cord is rather short, the heat control is
sloppy, the plug doesn't fit into its storage slot, and the stainless
outter shell is downright dangerous - stays very hot even after
unplugged for a few minutes

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Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Janet Baraclough wrote:
>
> >> I *HATE* washing dishes.
> >
> > I *HATE* dishwashers. I had one (came with house) and was happy when
> > it died. It did a perfect job, but I hate the noise, and the faffing
> > of loading and emptying, and the way what you want to use is either
> > lying in there dirty or in the middle of a cycle. I can wash up by hand
> > just as well and one hell of a lot faster.
>
> I would not go so far as to emphasize that I hate dishwashers, but I
> don't find them particularly useful. I don't think that it is much more
> work to wash dishes by hand than it is to load a dishwasher and then
> have to unload it. With just two of us here and a 8 settings of dishes
> we can easily go 2-3 days without having to run the dishwasher... to do
> the dishes. Meanwhile, we have to wash the pots and pans. By the time
> you wash the pots from a meal it is only another minute or so to do the
> plates, glasses and cutlery. When I am doing the cleanup I usually just
> wash everything by hand and its done. I don't think that a dishwasher
> saves me any time or work at all.

Most of us with dishwashers wash pots, pans, mixing bowls, etc. in them,
not just "dishes". Dishwashers also use less water and clean better and
at a higher temperature than hand washing.

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:28:58 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
>still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
>anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
>(both big and small) etc.
>
>If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
>ever, give us a list ;-)

>I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.

>I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
>about them here...


I know what *I* want too...

.... a chef so I can tell them what I want and wait for them to do it
for me!

Welshdog
--

News and views... from 'the land down under'.
Australian Opinion
http://australianopinion.com.au and
http://australianopinion.com

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:28:58 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
>still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
>anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
>(both big and small) etc.
>
>If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
>ever, give us a list ;-)
>
>I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>
>I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
>about them here...

I've always wanted a warming drawer.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

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On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:18:09 +0100, "Giusi" >
wrote:

>How is that different from a sportscar which is a lot more expensive? Get
>one. My kid wants one but in a color they rarely make... has never been
>available for Christmas yet.

I know how your kid feels! I have a certain shade of gray that I
covet, but it's never offered on the current model I'm buying.... it's
always "last year" - with a model in the show room to prove it.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

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On Fri 05 Dec 2008 09:35:46p, sf told us...

> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:28:58 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
>
>>... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
>>still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
>>anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
>>(both big and small) etc.
>>
>>If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
>>ever, give us a list ;-)
>>
>>I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>>
>>I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
>>about them here...
>
> I've always wanted a warming drawer.

I actuall had two back in Ohio, one with humidity control as well. Really
missed it. The range we have in this house has a warming drawer at the
bottom in place of the storage drawer. Works quite well.

--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)
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"Andy" > wrote in message
>
> I'd rather filter the entire water system from the meter, so tap water
> could be used for drinking, cooking, etc., not only ice. It would have to
> come with a 25 or 30 gallon reservoir like a hot water heater so it
> wouldn't reduce water pressure to a crawl while flushing, showering, wash
> rinse cycles, etc.
>
> Andy

I have a "whole house" filter for sediment that does the entire house and a
charcoal filter for the kitchen. No flow reduction to speak of.

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"Goomba" > wrote in message
>>
>> Why don't your repair it?
>
> Hmmm...good question. I guess because it still works. I just have to stand
> by when using it because all of a sudden, on its own, it will whirrrr way
> up in speed, or conversely go low. I have this image of a rubber band type
> transmission which slips and sends it into topsy turvey speed. The Oster
> kitchen center is 20 or more years old, and while it functions, I'm sort
> of jazzed for a newer machine. I tried to foist this off on a kid but he
> wasn't interested.

It was a good machine. We had one but one it broke, no more parts as they
stopped making them years ago.

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"George Shirley" > wrote in message
> We have an unvented gas stove Pete, we run the vent fan every time we
> light a burner.

Why? We hardly ever turn the vent fan on. That is one of the beauties of
gas, it burns very clean.

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"Tracy" > wrote in message
>
> This is part of the process in buying a home in Massachusetts. You make an
> offer which is contingent on the home inspection. The potential buyer
> hires the inspector. Totally worth the cost. Before we bought our last
> condo - one we almost bought was found to have black mold and we got out
> of the deal. Also a house we looked at- the fuse box had had an obvious
> fire. The thing had flame marks all over it. The owners refused to upgrade
> the thing. We didn't buy it. It sat on the market for a long time and
> while we were still looking saw the updated listing which said the
> electric was upgraded. This was about 6 years ago.

You may have missed a good deal. I'd have made an offer with a lower price
for the upgrade and then I'd have it done the way I want it, not the way the
previous owner wants it done, which is usually the cheapest way.



> We sold our condo last year in the nick of time and are renting till the
> summer - hopefully when we buy again. We could potentially buy sooner if
> we see something but I'd rather not break a lease.
>
> -Tracy

Check your lease. Buying a house is often grounds to break it with no
penalty.

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"Janet Baraclough" > wrote in message
> I even hate other peoples dishwashers, don't get me started on that,
> Well, all right. I hate it when I can smell (or see) on their plates
> and glassware that their dishwasher filter is filthy or they ran out of
> rinse aid. When they say "oh, just put it in the machine " (followed by
> "no, not there.. that's where the cat dish fits ) I hate when they open
> the machine the smell of ancient decayed food particles wafts out as
> they take out the mugs for our coffee.. I hate it even more when
> dishwasher owners are mean to guests with the clean plates cutlery
> glasses or saucers ("oh, lets just use the same one again."..because
> there are none clean and they only run it once a day. Or worse. " Living
> on my own I just use it to store dirty dishes and only need to run it
> once a week" ugh.
>
> Rant over now.
>
> Janet

You need new friends and/or better appliances. My dishes come out sparkling
clean and there is never an odor. Glassware especially looks fantastic with
no spots at all. We also have plenty of plates and whatever else is needed
for a good meal. Sounds like you hang out with a cheap crowd. Maybe take
paper plates on your next visit.

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On Fri 05 Dec 2008 10:09:32p, Ed Pawlowski told us...

>
> "Janet Baraclough" > wrote in message
>> I even hate other peoples dishwashers, don't get me started on that,
>> Well, all right. I hate it when I can smell (or see) on their plates
>> and glassware that their dishwasher filter is filthy or they ran out
>> of rinse aid. When they say "oh, just put it in the machine " (followed
>> by "no, not there.. that's where the cat dish fits ) I hate when they
>> open the machine the smell of ancient decayed food particles wafts
>> out as they take out the mugs for our coffee.. I hate it even more
>> when dishwasher owners are mean to guests with the clean plates cutlery
>> glasses or saucers ("oh, lets just use the same one again."..because
>> there are none clean and they only run it once a day. Or worse. "
>> Living on my own I just use it to store dirty dishes and only need to
>> run it once a week" ugh.
>>
>> Rant over now.
>>
>> Janet
>
> You need new friends and/or better appliances. My dishes come out
> sparkling clean and there is never an odor. Glassware especially looks
> fantastic with no spots at all. We also have plenty of plates and
> whatever else is needed for a good meal. Sounds like you hang out with
> a cheap crowd. Maybe take paper plates on your next visit.

As do ours. I have lived with many dishwashers over the years, and have
never had a problem with the quality of cleaning or sanitation. We run at
least one load, sometimes two, a day. Key to cleanliness, spotlessness,
and sanitation is adequately hot water, the proper detergent, a good rinse
agent, and in our present situatiion, a product that neutralizes mineral
content. I doubt I could ever come close to these results if washed by
hand. The only thing I sometimes "prep" for the dishwasher are stainless
steel pots that show a minor stain. A quick swish with stainless steel
cleaner prior to dishwashering takes care of that.

I probably would cook far less if I had the chore of handwashing looming
ahead of me after every meal.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> As do ours. I have lived with many dishwashers over the years, and
> have never had a problem with the quality of cleaning or sanitation.
> We run at least one load, sometimes two, a day. Key to cleanliness,
> spotlessness, and sanitation is adequately hot water, the proper
> detergent, a good rinse agent, and in our present situatiion, a
> product that neutralizes mineral content. I doubt I could ever come
> close to these results if washed by hand. The only thing I sometimes
> "prep" for the dishwasher are stainless steel pots that show a minor
> stain. A quick swish with stainless steel cleaner prior to
> dishwashering takes care of that.
>
> I probably would cook far less if I had the chore of handwashing
> looming ahead of me after every meal.

Yep! Ours is wonderful and everything comes out sparkling. No smell either
but then i do clean it reguarly.

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> "George Shirley" > wrote in message
>> We have an unvented gas stove Pete, we run the vent fan every time we
>> light a burner.
>
> Why? We hardly ever turn the vent fan on. That is one of the beauties of
> gas, it burns very clean.
>
>
Habit more than anything else. I pretty much learned to cook on gas
stoves that didn't burn very clean plus it keeps the grease and
condensation level down in the kitchen. Bear in mind that we live in SW
Louisiana and run air conditioning about 11 months a year. Ran the vent
fan with the old electric stove too.

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"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
m...
> jmcquown wrote:
>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>> m...
>>> ChattyCathy wrote:
>>>> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages,
>>>> but still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it
>>>> be? i.e. anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other
>>>> appliances (both big and small) etc.
>>>>
>>>> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after'
>>>> for ever, give us a list ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>>>>
>>>> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
>>>> about them here...
>>>> --
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Chatty Cathy
>>>
>>> A walk-in pantry -- a place to have a chest freezer, extra fridge,
>>> keep strange sized pans, all the cookie sheets/roasting pans I
>>> tangle with, small appliances and food stuffs (all my extra flour
>>> and bread-making stuff) I dream of one.
>>> Janet
>> Ah, I had a walk-in pantry in an apartment I rented back in 1984. It
>> was a very old building, circa 1920. There was a small door at floor
>> level leading out to the hallway where the milkman would push your
>> dairy order through. I wouldn't have been able to put a freezer in
>> it, though; there were shelves on both sides and no outlets. But it
>> was nice to be able to store a lot of stuff out of sight. As you can
>> imagine in a building that old, the galley-style kitchen was small.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I'm not surprised that it was an old building. It's Grandpa's pantry that
> I dream of -- without the fridge and freezer. I know that houses and
> apartments are built the way they are because no one wants to give up the
> floor space (except a cook.) What a neat idea for the milkman. I love
> old features like that ;o} Thanks for sharing that.
> Janet
>

I loved that apartment! It's the only place I ever had a gas stove with
slide-out a gas broiler underneath. It was a very old stove, probably from
the 50's or 60's but worked perfectly well. And the refrigerator (also
dated) looked like it came from the set of 'I Love Lucy' :) Hardwood floors
throughout. The bathroom had a deep clawfoot bathtub and a pedestal sink.
French doors separated the living room from the bedroom. Apparently at one
time there were french doors from the living room to the dining room, too,
but those were long gone (a shame!). Not much closet space, but it was a 1
bedroom apartment. That pantry was wonderful. And the milkman door was a
hoot!

Jill

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> "Tracy" > wrote in message
>> This is part of the process in buying a home in Massachusetts. You make an
>> offer which is contingent on the home inspection. The potential buyer
>> hires the inspector. Totally worth the cost. Before we bought our last
>> condo - one we almost bought was found to have black mold and we got out
>> of the deal. Also a house we looked at- the fuse box had had an obvious
>> fire. The thing had flame marks all over it. The owners refused to upgrade
>> the thing. We didn't buy it. It sat on the market for a long time and
>> while we were still looking saw the updated listing which said the
>> electric was upgraded. This was about 6 years ago.
>
> You may have missed a good deal. I'd have made an offer with a lower price
> for the upgrade and then I'd have it done the way I want it, not the way the
> previous owner wants it done, which is usually the cheapest way.
>
>

We did not want to buy something which needed an electrical upgrade or
really anything really major. The house had other issues as well. It
needed a new roof and a few other things. Which is why we ended up in a
condo - with no major expenses to deal with.

>> We sold our condo last year in the nick of time and are renting till the
>> summer - hopefully when we buy again. We could potentially buy sooner if
>> we see something but I'd rather not break a lease.
>>
>> -Tracy
>
> Check your lease. Buying a house is often grounds to break it with no
> penalty.
>
>
My lease states that if I break it I must pay the real estate agent's
fee (one month's rent)- if I paid one which I think I did. Also, it says
if I find a suitable tenant to replace me - I won't have to pay the fee.

I would just rather not have to deal with a fee and an angry landlord.

That said, if my dream home became available months before my lease
expires - I'd probably break my lease.

-Tracy

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Dave Smith wrote:

> I would not go so far as to emphasize that I hate dishwashers, but I
> don't find them particularly useful. I don't think that it is much more
> work to wash dishes by hand than it is to load a dishwasher and then
> have to unload it. With just two of us here and a 8 settings of dishes
> we can easily go 2-3 days without having to run the dishwasher... to do
> the dishes. Meanwhile, we have to wash the pots and pans. By the time
> you wash the pots from a meal it is only another minute or so to do the
> plates, glasses and cutlery. When I am doing the cleanup I usually just
> wash everything by hand and its done. I don't think that a dishwasher
> saves me any time or work at all.

I put my pots and pans in the dishwasher. It fills up I run it. It sures
saves looking at dirty dishes undone as well as looking at draining
dishes in some rack. My kitchen looks neater even while I'm busy
cooking. I only handwash those things truly necessary to be done-knives,
crystal and the like. My dishwasher works hard for me and I love it.

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Goomba > wrote in news:6pvf2uFa5ro2U1
@mid.individual.net:

> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> I would not go so far as to emphasize that I hate dishwashers, but I

>
> I put my pots and pans in the dishwasher. It fills up I run it. It sures
> saves looking at dirty dishes undone as well as looking at draining
> dishes in some rack. My kitchen looks neater even while I'm busy
> cooking. I only handwash those things truly necessary to be done-knives,
> crystal and the like. My dishwasher works hard for me and I love it.
>



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Australia

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jmcquown wrote:

> I loved that apartment! It's the only place I ever had a gas stove
> with slide-out a gas broiler underneath.

Oh, I was so happy to see that they started putting
the broiler in the gas oven. I had a horror of that scary
broiler drawer.

> It was a very old stove,
> probably from the 50's or 60's but worked perfectly well. And the
> refrigerator (also dated) looked like it came from the set of 'I Love
> Lucy' :) Hardwood floors throughout. The bathroom had a deep
> clawfoot bathtub and a pedestal sink. French doors separated the
> living room from the bedroom. Apparently at one time there were
> french doors from the living room to the dining room, too, but those
> were long gone (a shame!). Not much closet space, but it was a 1
> bedroom apartment. That pantry was wonderful. And the milkman door
> was a hoot!

Sounds fabulous. New homes don't have those nice details
unless you get Designed to Sell come add them.

nancy