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Janet Baraclough wrote:
>
> The message >
> from PeterL > contains these words:
>
> > I *HATE* washing dishes.
>
> I *HATE* dishwashers. I had one (came with house) and was happy when
> it died. It did a perfect job, but I hate the noise, and the faffing
> of loading and emptying, and the way what you want to use is either
> lying in there dirty or in the middle of a cycle. I can wash up by hand
> just as well and one hell of a lot faster.
>
> I even hate other peoples dishwashers, don't get me started on that,
> Well, all right. I hate it when I can smell (or see) on their plates
> and glassware that their dishwasher filter is filthy or they ran out of
> rinse aid. When they say "oh, just put it in the machine " (followed by
> "no, not there.. that's where the cat dish fits ) I hate when they open
> the machine the smell of ancient decayed food particles wafts out as
> they take out the mugs for our coffee.. I hate it even more when
> dishwasher owners are mean to guests with the clean plates cutlery
> glasses or saucers ("oh, lets just use the same one again."..because
> there are none clean and they only run it once a day. Or worse. " Living
> on my own I just use it to store dirty dishes and only need to run it
> once a week" ugh.
>
> Rant over now.
>
> Janet

I guess you folks in the UK don't know how to maintain appliances, or
perhaps have other plumbing problems, as I have not ever experienced a
single one of the issues you noted with dishwashers here in the US.

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On Dec 5, 1:09�pm, Tracy > wrote:
> Becca wrote:
> > Tracy wrote:
> >> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>
> >>> The one thing I've always wanted but can't justify spending the money
> >>> on is a Kitchen Aid stand mixer. I don't bake and my stick blender is
> >>> fine for most things and then I have an old mixer with the beaters on
> >>> it for the rest.
>
> >>> Other items:
>
> >>> Trash compactor (I don't have the room for one)
> >>> Self cleaning floor (They don't make 'em)
>
> >> I would totally buy a self cleaning floor as soon as someone invented it!
> >> ;-)
>
> >> Tracy
>
> > Tracy, I have the iRobot Scooba, and I loved it, but now my floors are
> > wood, so I can not use it anymore. �:-( � � I love my floors, though.
>
> > Becca
>
> I'd buy a Scooba if I thought it would clean my kitchen floor. It's old
> vinyl and I have to scrub it to clean it.
>
> At least I will be buying soon - and while I am not in the market for a
> fixer upper - another thing I would pay to fix is new kitchen floor.

I think you mean a new floor covering... most resales need new floor
covering in every room, but not new floors

Most every resale needs extensive fixing. Often those marketed as
fixer-uppers need lots of inexpensive cosmetic fixing, while those
described as in good to excellent condition can contain many hidden
defects that can cost substantial sums to rehab. It's very easy to
hide major defects from the inexperienced. I strongly urge everyone
buying a resale to have the entire dwelling professionally
inspected... this allows the buyer to get out of the deal when the
seller refuses to compensate for any defects discovered. It's easy
for a seller to be less than honest with the full disclosure form.
And regardless, always obtain a new survey... many lenders will
require a survey but will accept a recent survey (recent meaning
within like ten years), be smart, obtain your own. And although you
have title insurance title searches miss a lot, that insurance never
comes close to compensating for boundary issues... many time people
find out later that a neighbor has an easement/ROW. The title
insurance company may offer like $1,000 compensation for what they
deem the value of the property is diminished due to the easement/ROW,
be aware thay can't undo anything, all they will do is offer a small
monetary recompense. You don't need to accept the award, you can
refuse and sue for more but it will take many years and many of your
dollars before it goes to court and you will more than likely lose...
the legal theory being that you, the buyer, should have been more
diligent/rigorous in ensuring free title as expressed in the original
offering. That's why it's very important to conduct your own survey,
because sometimes just before a sale an easement/ROW is conveyed but
doesn't show up in town records for many months, but a local surveyer
will probably know and won't risk their license, and prison, by
withholding the full facts as they are sworn to do. When you go to
contract for the purchase of real estate always have your attorney
make it conditional on your obtaining a survey. If the seller balks
and won't wait the additional month or so walk away.

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jmcquown wrote:
> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
> m...
>> ChattyCathy wrote:
>>> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages,
>>> but still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it
>>> be? i.e. anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other
>>> appliances (both big and small) etc.
>>>
>>> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after'
>>> for ever, give us a list ;-)
>>>
>>> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>>>
>>> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
>>> about them here...
>>> --
>>> Cheers
>>> Chatty Cathy
>>
>> A walk-in pantry -- a place to have a chest freezer, extra fridge,
>> keep strange sized pans, all the cookie sheets/roasting pans I
>> tangle with, small appliances and food stuffs (all my extra flour
>> and bread-making stuff) I dream of one.
>> Janet
> Ah, I had a walk-in pantry in an apartment I rented back in 1984. It
> was a very old building, circa 1920. There was a small door at floor
> level leading out to the hallway where the milkman would push your
> dairy order through. I wouldn't have been able to put a freezer in
> it, though; there were shelves on both sides and no outlets. But it
> was nice to be able to store a lot of stuff out of sight. As you can
> imagine in a building that old, the galley-style kitchen was small.
>
> Jill

I'm not surprised that it was an old building. It's Grandpa's pantry that I
dream of -- without the fridge and freezer. I know that houses and
apartments are built the way they are because no one wants to give up the
floor space (except a cook.) What a neat idea for the milkman. I love old
features like that ;o} Thanks for sharing that.
Janet

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ChattyCathy wrote:
> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
> (both big and small) etc.
>
> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>
> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
> about them here...


I have all the gadgets I want but we do need a major kitchen cabinet
remodel for our 34 year old kitchen. I would like a bottom-freezer
fridge, fake stone countertops, and light colored wood cabinets.
I can live with my current stove although a double electric wall oven
and gas cooktop would be lovely.

gloria p

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Janet Baraclough wrote:
> The message >
> from "jmcquown" > contains these words:
>
>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>>
>>> A walk-in pantry -- a place to have a chest freezer, extra fridge,
>>> keep strange sized pans, all the cookie sheets/roasting pans I
>>> tangle with, small appliances and food stuffs (all my extra flour
>>> and bread-making stuff) I dream of one.
>>> Janet
>> Ah, I had a walk-in pantry in an apartment I rented back in 1984.
>> It was a very old building, circa 1920. There was a small door at
>> floor level leading out to the hallway where the milkman would push
>> your dairy order through.
> I wouldn't have been able to put a freezer in it, though; there
>> were shelves on both sides and no outlets. But it was nice to be
>> able to store a lot of stuff out of sight. As you can imagine in a
>> building that old, the galley-style kitchen was small.
>
> I've got a walk-in pantry and I love it. A pantry off the kitchen
> is just so incredibly useful and convenient I don't know why they ever
> went out of fashion or haven't come back in , in modern houses..
>
> The previous owner (kitchen clueless) kept her fridge in there,
> not a good plan ...the pantry is so well insulated the fridge motor
> made it much too warm for storing food such as flour and root veg. I
> put in new adjustable shelves on all the walls designed so that I can
> see everything on them at a glance. They stash so much stuff there's
> no need for wall cupboards in the kitchen. All the awkward stuff we
> don't use daily lives on the top shelf ( jam kit, big fish kettle,
> pressure cooker) and I have a small folding purple stepladder in
> there to reach the high shelves. All food supplies live within easy
> reach on the lower shelves.
> Originally the pantry was designed as a natural cold-room with a cool
> concrete floor, solid brick walls, no windows. It's on the cool
> breezy northfacing side of the house and had a one foot square,
> fly-screened wooden louvre shutter hatch to the out-doors, on the
> end wall. I thought that must have been a natural cooling
> air-conditioner but after reading your post, I'm wondering if it was
> also a hatch for milk deliveries) That got covered up by a later
> extension to the building, but the pantry is still a very cool place.
> Good for keeping beer and wine.
>
> Janet

I'm so very, very glad that pantry found someone who appreciates it. They
are a treasure. I have also wondered why the new, big houses don't give
some room to a walk-in pantry. It doesn't make sense. Even when caterers
are hired, that kind of room and space would be appreciated. I do have a
spare bedroom on the shady side of the house that we don't heat. It works
great in the winter, but really gets too warm in the summer for baking
supplies.
Janet

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On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:37:35 -0800, "TammyM" >
wrote:

>
>"Giusi" > wrote in message
...
>> "TammyM" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>>> Well I certainly agree about their food processor! Feh. But I love my >
>>> Cuisinart coffeemaker. It shuts off after brewing and the carafe keeps
>>> the > coffee piping hot for hours and hours and hours. > TammM
>>
>> Hmmm, I have a Cuisinaryt food processor that is going on 30 years old and
>> still works fine... can't imagine the problem. I had a different brand
>> before and it was a dweeb.
>
>This one is only about 7 years old or so. The plastic locking safety
>thingie busted off of the lid and the motor won't run without it. Although
>Wicked Dan Abel suggested that there might be a work-around for it. I'm
>going to try to get Cuisinart to send me a new lid.
>
>TammyM
>
If Cuisinart won't do it, then try he
http://www.thegourmetdepotco.com/store/

This used to be Culinary Parts Unlimited, which has parts for many
appliances...

Christine

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:42:00 -0600, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>I guess you folks in the UK don't know how to maintain appliances, or
>perhaps have other plumbing problems, as I have not ever experienced a
>single one of the issues you noted with dishwashers here in the US.

I love mine so much I had two installed...one on each side of the
sink!!

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George Shirley wrote:

> Two years ago I bought a Wolfgang Puck stand mixer at Bed, Bath, and
> Beyond. Does everything the KitchenAid does and more at about half the
> price. Have not had problem one with it as yet. All chrome and stainless
> with black accents.


Who's the manufacturer, George?

gloria p

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Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>
> Ohhh... We went for years without an ice maker. We bought a new fridge
> with an ice maker and water dispenser during the remodel. I will say this
> now that I have one. I'll never do without an ice maker. Ever again. I
> seldom use the water dispenser. Now that I know what I know, I'd have
> bought a completely different refrigerator/freezer if I had to do it all
> over again. Think it through carefully before the purchase.
>


Color me curious,Michael. What would you do differently?

I love our ice maker, the first we've ever had. Ice cube trays
are so messy (because I'm a klutz.) I love having lots of ice
so I can pack it around a kettle of soup, spaghetti sauce, chili, etc,
in the sink to cool it down quickly. That also does a good job clearing
out the stale ice.

I want a bottom freezer fridge, I think, because although I'm short,
I hate having to get on my knees to find stuff at the back of the
lower shelves. I often stand up too quickly and bang my head on the
freezer handle. Hurts like h#ll.

I'm thinking seriously of a kitchen makeover in the new year and
would love to hear other people's experiences.

gloria p

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Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>
> Ohhh... We went for years without an ice maker. We bought a new fridge
> with an ice maker and water dispenser during the remodel. I will say this
> now that I have one. I'll never do without an ice maker. Ever again. I
> seldom use the water dispenser. Now that I know what I know, I'd have
> bought a completely different refrigerator/freezer if I had to do it all
> over again. Think it through carefully before the purchase.
>


Color me curious,Michael. What would you do differently?

I love our ice maker, the first we've ever had. Ice cube trays
are so messy (because I'm a klutz.) I love having lots of ice
so I can pack it around a kettle of soup, spaghetti sauce, chili, etc,
in the sink to cool it down quickly. That also does a good job clearing
out the stale ice.

I want a bottom freezer fridge, I think, because although I'm short,
I hate having to get on my knees to find stuff at the back of the
lower shelves. I often stand up too quickly and bang my head on the
freezer handle. Hurts like h#ll.

I'm thinking seriously of a kitchen makeover in the new year and
would love to hear other people's experiences.

gloria p

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:34:42 -0700, Gloria P >
wrote:

>I want a bottom freezer fridge, I think, because although I'm short,
>I hate having to get on my knees to find stuff at the back of the
>lower shelves. I often stand up too quickly and bang my head on the
>freezer handle. Hurts like h#ll.

That is why I went with a single door freezer and a single door
refrigerator!! Never loved anything better in the kitchen!!

http://i33.tinypic.com/vqn0g0.jpg

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On Dec 5, 11:34 am, "cybercat" > wrote:
> "Tracy" > wrote :
>
> > Easy. An icemaker in my freezer.
> > It's not a matter of money - we rent right now and we are currently
> > looking to buy sometime next summer.
> > If what we buy does not have a fridge with an icemaker, I am buying one.
>
> They're not much more expensive than fridges without them, that's for sure.
> They all have the "crushed" option now too, pretty neat.

In an older home, the major expense is running the water line/plumbing
to make it work. That was an expense I was unwilling to pay - ice
cubes in my freezer generally evaporate before use.

N.

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On Dec 5, 8:11 am, Sheldon > wrote:
> On Dec 5, 8:28 am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>
> > ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
> > still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
> > anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
> > (both big and small) etc.
>
> > If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
> > ever, give us a list ;-)
>
> > I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>
> You don't have a dishwasher... get one pronto. I lived without using
> a dishwasher for most of my life until finally I got a new one and
> began using it, now I wouldn't be without it. Make sure to get one
> with the stainless steel interior. I got the Maytag Jetclean Plus,
> works great.
>
> > I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
> > about them here...
>
> I bet you can cook rice in a dishwasher. LOL I really don't see the
> point in a rice cooker unless one has trouble boiling water and/or has
> a lust for extraneous gadgetry.... what's the mattter with how
> 99.999pct of the rice eating world cooks rice, a pot on the stovetop.
>
> Me, I'm waiting for my POS Coozinart coffeemaker to die so I can
> justify getting a new one. I'll never buy any coozinart product
> again, they engineer the most poorly thought out products... their
> engineers must come from the same pool as the US auto makers... there
> isn't a US auto made that's worth more than its scrap metal value...
> their CEOs are a joke... anyone lissen to those double speak con
> artist huckster imbeciles... they ain't qualfied to run a lemonade
> stand. The only salvation for the redundant big three is to let them
> go under and reorganize as one (1) company with all top management
> Japanese.

I always had good luck with Krups coffeemakers....bought a big
espresso thingie for my brother and SIL, and they loved it. Plus,
the one time I needed to send my small 12-Cup Krups back for repair,
they paid postage/shipping BOTH ways.

N.

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On Dec 5, 12:44�pm, "Pete C." > wrote:
> James Silverton wrote:
>
> > �Pete �wrote �on Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:46:47 -0600:
>
> > > Lass Chance_2 wrote:
>
> > >> Whar Id like would be TWO dishwashers, side by side. �The
> > >> reason is, I HATE UNloading the dishwasher. �But if I had
> > >> TWO, I could take clean dishes right from one and use
> > >> them...then rinse and put them in the OTHER one....then when
> > >> that one was full, run the dishwwasher and VOILA! Now THAT
> > >> one would be clean dishes....use them and put the dirties
> > >> into the FIRST one. No need for putting them in the cabinet,
> > >> at all!
>
> > >> Id also like one of those HUGE islands with a gas cook top
> > >> and a BIG vent over it....oooooh...and a trash compactor...
>
> > >> What Id MOST like would be to have enough money to pay
> > >> somebody to come in twice a week and clean my house, tho.
>
> > >> I HATE house work. �It puts me in a bad mood because I hate
> > >> it so much. Especially mopping floors. �Since I hate it SO
> > >> much, I put it off...and finally it gets so bad I HAVE to
> > >> scrub them....ghastly.
>
> > >> I have known opeople who say they ENJOY house work! �Duh???
>
> > >> Lass
>
> > >The double dishwasher thing is becoming popular in Europe because it's
> > >cheaper than kitchen cabinets to store the dishes in (which folks there
> > >have typically moved from house to house)
>
> > If you had a big enough house and the necessary money you could consider
> > a continuous dish washer as used in some restaurants.
>
> Somehow, for a single person I think a commercial continuous dishwasher
> would cross the line into absurdity.

It'd be more advantageous to install a double deep sink and hire a
buxom wench, and when there were no dirty dishes there'd be no down
time if you get my drift.

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On Dec 5, 12:57�pm, "Pete C." > wrote:
> Goomba wrote:
>
> > Lass Chance_2 wrote:
> > > Whar Id like would be TWO dishwashers, side by side. �The reason is, I
> > > HATE UNloading the dishwasher. �But if I had TWO, I could take clean
> > > dishes right from one and use them...then rinse and put them in the
> > > OTHER one....then when that one was full, run the dishwwasher and VOILA!
> > > Now THAT one would be clean dishes....use them and put the dirties into
> > > the FIRST one. No need for putting them in the cabinet, at all!
>
> > You know that if you have a good dishwasher, you shouldn't have to waste
> > the time and water pre-rinsing dishes. Just scrape off the food and toss
> > 'em into the dishwasher.
>
> For those of us who have dishwashers and are single, the pre-rinsing is
> essential to keep residue from turning into cement before the dishwasher
> is full enough to run.

A good dishwasher should still clean crusty dishes, run the pot
scrubber cycle. It's more important to rinse schmutzy dishes so that
if sitting 2-3 days they don't exude that aroma of unbathed 'talians.

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Lynn from Fargo wrote:
>> Current pantry is 9X6 and just isn't big enough.
> ========================================
>
> Oh buck up, George!
> My current KITCHEN is 9X6 ;-)
> Lynn in Fargo
> xxxooo
>
>
Mine is about 10X12, and that ain't near big enough. If we're having a
feed everyone and their brother-in-law wants to hang around the kitchen.
I get irritated when DW wants to get in there and "help" me. I'm a fast
moving cook and might hit someone with a skillet or stick a knife in
them when I swing around. <VBG>

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Pete C. wrote:
> Goomba wrote:
>> Lass Chance_2 wrote:
>>> Whar Id like would be TWO dishwashers, side by side. The reason is, I
>>> HATE UNloading the dishwasher. But if I had TWO, I could take clean
>>> dishes right from one and use them...then rinse and put them in the
>>> OTHER one....then when that one was full, run the dishwwasher and VOILA!
>>> Now THAT one would be clean dishes....use them and put the dirties into
>>> the FIRST one. No need for putting them in the cabinet, at all!
>> You know that if you have a good dishwasher, you shouldn't have to waste
>> the time and water pre-rinsing dishes. Just scrape off the food and toss
>> 'em into the dishwasher.
>
> For those of us who have dishwashers and are single, the pre-rinsing is
> essential to keep residue from turning into cement before the dishwasher
> is full enough to run.
Even with those of us that have a two-person, one-dawg household.

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Pete C. wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:28:58 +0200, ChattyCathy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
>>>> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
>>>> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
>>>> (both big and small) etc.
>>>>
>>>> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
>>>> ever, give us a list ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>>>>
>>>> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
>>>> about them here...
>>> A roof mounted exhaust fan.
>>>
>>> Lou
>> When we remodeled I found that our kitchen vent fan exhausted into the
>> attic. Ran the stove pipe on up and through the roof with cap on it.
>> Installed a higher volume fan and the whole thing works well.
>
> Yes, I found the same here. If I ran that vent fan for more than 5
> minutes per year I might consider fixing that problem.
We have an unvented gas stove Pete, we run the vent fan every time we
light a burner.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Fri 05 Dec 2008 10:44:08a, George Shirley told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Fri 05 Dec 2008 06:28:58a, ChattyCathy told us...
>>>
>>>> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
>>>> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
>>>> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
>>>> (both big and small) etc.
>>>>
>>>> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
>>>> ever, give us a list ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>>>>
>>>> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
>>>> about them here...
>>> I have most everything I want, but I think I would like to have a bread
>>> machine. Never tried one, but would like to.
>>>
>> I'm on my second one Wayne, it's a Regal and works like a charm. I
>> seldom use the Delayed bake feature but when I have it is really nice to
>> wake up to freshly baked bread. It will make a 1 lb or 2 lb loaf and
>> seldom fails me unless I screwed something up in the mix. IIRC I got it
>> pretty cheap at Walmart.
>>
>
> I'll take a look there. Thanks, George!
>
Got a loaf of sweet bread in the thing right now. Recipe from Beth
Hensperger's Big Book of Bread Machine Recipes. Has ground cardamom,
dried pineapple, cranberries, and tart cherries in it plus brown sugar.
IIRC I made this a few months ago for the Altar Society bake sale and it
was a hit so decided to make a loaf for us to scarf up. Besides, finally
ran out of Thanksgiving leftovers. <VBG>

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Goomba wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>
>>> I'll second that lust. Make mine black, please!
>>> My old Oster Kitchen Center has all the attachments (blender, food
>>> processor, mixer, dough beater, yada yada yada) and it functions.
>>> During one move overseas where it sat in storage for 3 years it must
>>> have been hot in the warehouse which didn't improve the transmission
>>> band. It slips now and squeals something fierce! I've put up with it
>>> because it still works.
>
>> Gawd! I miss my old Oster Kitchen Center with all the attachments. Got
>> it for a Christmas gift in 1981 and finally had to give it away to
>> charity after the main gear (plastic of course) stripped and there
>> were no replacement parts available. Even tried to machine my own
>> plastic gear but never got it right as I had to do it by hand. when
>> they quit they quit for good, enjoy it while you can.
>
> Just say the word and this one is yours! That would give me the excuse
> to get the Kitchenaid stand mixer. I have a Cuisinart food processor,
> so don't need anything off the kitchen center except a blender, which I
> can buy separately.
Thanks, but I replaced mine with the Puck stand mixer and have no more
room for gadgets. A very gracious offer though.

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The Cook wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:03:13 -0600, George Shirley
> > wrote:
>
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Dec 5, 8:28 am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>>>> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
>>>> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
>>>> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
>>>> (both big and small) etc.
>>>>
>>>> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
>>>> ever, give us a list ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>>>>
>>>> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
>>>> about them here...
>>> Square footage. We've always intended to add on to the house to
>>> enlarge
>>> the kitchen, but it's starting to look like that's incompatible with a
>>> retirement
>>> plan that does not involve (a) dog food and/or (b) suicide.
>>>
>>> Of course, my "I won the lottery" fantasy includes really nice
>>> cabinets, large
>>> refrigerator and freezer (and a big ol' generator with an automatic
>>> transfer switch),
>>> lovely finishes on the walls and floors, gorgeous lighting that I
>>> don't have to clean
>>> myself.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>> Ahh, my dream home would be a very large kitchen, dining room, half bath
>> and living room all in one space with three bedrooms and two bathrooms
>> off to the end. Off the kitchen would be the 12X12 pantry with shelving,
>> room for the big upright freezer, storage for large pots and pans, etc.
>> Current pantry is 9X6 and just isn't big enough.
>>
>> Would help to have the patio kitchen available through a door from the
>> kitchen. Should have a roof, large brick BBQ pit, gas grill, separate
>> sink and faucet, wood and charcoal storage, etc.
>>
>> Now all I have to do is win the Powerball lottery.
>
>
> What I want to do is remove the Jacuzzi from the master bath and move
> the washer and drier there. Then make the utility room into a
> pantry/storeroom so I don't have to go to the basement quite as often.
Sheesh, a Jacuzzi and a basement. You should have all the room in the
world. A basement in SW Louisiana is called an indoor swimming pool. Our
water table is really close to the surface.

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George Shirley wrote:
> Pete C. wrote:
>> Goomba wrote:

>>> You know that if you have a good dishwasher, you shouldn't have to
>>> waste the time and water pre-rinsing dishes. Just scrape off the
>>> food and toss 'em into the dishwasher.
>>
>> For those of us who have dishwashers and are single, the pre-rinsing
>> is essential to keep residue from turning into cement before the
>> dishwasher is full enough to run.

> Even with those of us that have a two-person, one-dawg household.

I run my dishwasher every two to three days. No rinsing.
And yet, no cemented-on food.

nancy

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Andy wrote:
> George Shirley said...
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>> Michael "Dog3" said...
>>>
>>>> We bought a new fridge
>>>> with an ice maker and water dispenser during the remodel. I will say
>>>> this now that I have one. I'll never do without an ice maker.
>>>
>>> If my water supply wasn't so over-chlorinated I'd use the icemaker. As
>>> it is, the cubes would ruin the flavor of any drinks.
>>>
>>> Andy
>> I installed a GE inline filter on my icemaker for that very reason,
>> works like a charm.
>
>
> I'd rather filter the entire water system from the meter, so tap water
> could be used for drinking, cooking, etc., not only ice. It would have to
> come with a 25 or 30 gallon reservoir like a hot water heater so it
> wouldn't reduce water pressure to a crawl while flushing, showering, wash
> rinse cycles, etc.
>
> Andy
I have no problem drinking the tap water here, no chlorine or iron smell
and I get a printout of the lab results covering everything from A to Z
every six months. It's basically chlorinated well water here in our
small city.

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Pete C. wrote:
> Janet Baraclough wrote:
>> The message >
>> from "Michael \"Dog3\"" > contains these words:
>>
>>> "Bob Terwilliger" > news:2d833d.abs.19.1
>>> @news.alt.net: in rec.food.cooking
>>>> 4. A second oven
>>> LOL... For years and years we had two ovens both in this house (we've lived
>>> in the house for 8 years, had 2 ovens in it for 3) and our old condo had 2
>>> ovens which we lived in for maybe 12-13 years. Sometimes it was nice to
>>> have 2 ovens but found we really only used both when he had both families
>>> over for Thanksgiving or maybe when we threw huge parties.
>> I've always had two ovens ( very common in UK stoves) and wouldn't
>> be without; very useful if you're cooking things which need different
>> temperatures or timing
>> or just to keep food or plates warm in one while you cook in the other.
>>
>> Janet.
>
> My stove here has a large main convection oven and a smaller side oven.
> I find the combination works very well, using the side oven to hold
> items as I complete the whole meal, or since I'm typically cooking for
> one, the side oven is frequently large enough to do the job with greater
> efficiency than the main oven.
It's about the same with our gas stove, big convection oven, smaller
warming or baking oven. I mostly use the warming oven as a plate warmer
but, on occasion, have used it to hold something at temperature while I
finish baking something else. Grew up in a household with a Chambers gas
range with two ovens and a warmer, wish I had it now.

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Nancy Young wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> I have lust in my heart for a Kitchenaide stand mixer. I've wanted
>>> one forever. I just really don't have a place to put it.
>>>
>>> And I don't bake.
>>>
>>> I just want one. To have!
>
>> Two years ago I bought a Wolfgang Puck stand mixer at Bed, Bath, and
>> Beyond. Does everything the KitchenAid does and more at about half the
>> price. Have not had problem one with it as yet. All chrome and
>> stainless with black accents.
>
> I saw the picture you posted, very nice!
> On reading the other's wish list, I thought my wish
> really was for a butler's pantry off the kitchen. If I had one there
> would be no stand mixer on the wish list because I'd have one.
>
> nancy
Got my Puck mixer for $134.00 with a 20% off coupon and on sale. It
resides in a deep cabinet beneath the electric outlet and I can just
pick it up and place it on the counter top. There is a plastic container
sitting behind it that holds the accessories that aren't used on a
routine basis.

When I retired in 2007 I decided to rearrange the kitchen and pantry to
suit me and not DW. Particularly appropriate since I do 95% of the
cooking, shopping, and cleaning. Having been a "space man" in my
misspent career in the oil patch I tried to do it ergonomically and for
convenience. Space man being the management person in charge of space
usage in buildings. Not a job for the weak, if you've never seen a bunch
of ****ed off engineers you haven't lived, just mess with their offices. <G>

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Gloria P wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>
>> Two years ago I bought a Wolfgang Puck stand mixer at Bed, Bath, and
>> Beyond. Does everything the KitchenAid does and more at about half the
>> price. Have not had problem one with it as yet. All chrome and
>> stainless with black accents.
>
>
> Who's the manufacturer, George?
>
> gloria p
Says W.P. Appliances, Inc. but the manuals were printed in China so I
suspect the machine was made there too. Puck's website is:
www.wolfgangpuck.kitchenware.com.

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ChattyCathy wrote:
> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
> (both big and small) etc.
>
> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
> ever, give us a list ;-)
>
> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>
> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
> about them here...

A toaster oven that is easy to clean!

I don't think anyone makes one.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

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George Shirley wrote:
>
> Pete C. wrote:
> > George Shirley wrote:
> >> Lou Decruss wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:28:58 +0200, ChattyCathy
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
> >>>> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
> >>>> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
> >>>> (both big and small) etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
> >>>> ever, give us a list ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
> >>>> about them here...
> >>> A roof mounted exhaust fan.
> >>>
> >>> Lou
> >> When we remodeled I found that our kitchen vent fan exhausted into the
> >> attic. Ran the stove pipe on up and through the roof with cap on it.
> >> Installed a higher volume fan and the whole thing works well.
> >
> > Yes, I found the same here. If I ran that vent fan for more than 5
> > minutes per year I might consider fixing that problem.
> We have an unvented gas stove Pete, we run the vent fan every time we
> light a burner.

I have a gas stove as well (dual fuel, LP top, electric ovens). Running
the fan whenever you have a burner on is obsessive to say the least
unless you are in very small quarters.

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On Fri 05 Dec 2008 02:08:43p, George Shirley told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Fri 05 Dec 2008 10:44:08a, George Shirley told us...
>>
>>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>> On Fri 05 Dec 2008 06:28:58a, ChattyCathy told us...
>>>>
>>>>> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
>>>>> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be?
i.e.
>>>>> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
>>>>> (both big and small) etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after'
for
>>>>> ever, give us a list ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I know what I would buy... a dishwasher.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am also considering a rice cooker, after hearing many good things
>>>>> about them here...
>>>> I have most everything I want, but I think I would like to have a
bread
>>>> machine. Never tried one, but would like to.
>>>>
>>> I'm on my second one Wayne, it's a Regal and works like a charm. I
>>> seldom use the Delayed bake feature but when I have it is really nice
to
>>> wake up to freshly baked bread. It will make a 1 lb or 2 lb loaf and
>>> seldom fails me unless I screwed something up in the mix. IIRC I got it
>>> pretty cheap at Walmart.
>>>
>>
>> I'll take a look there. Thanks, George!
>>
> Got a loaf of sweet bread in the thing right now. Recipe from Beth
> Hensperger's Big Book of Bread Machine Recipes. Has ground cardamom,
> dried pineapple, cranberries, and tart cherries in it plus brown sugar.
> IIRC I made this a few months ago for the Altar Society bake sale and it
> was a hit so decided to make a loaf for us to scarf up. Besides, finally
> ran out of Thanksgiving leftovers. <VBG>
>

That loaf sounds delicious, George! I'm kinda glad the Thanksgiving
leftovers are gone. <g>

--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)
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George wrote on Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:12:28 -0600:

> Andy wrote:
>> George Shirley said...
>>
>>> Andy wrote:
>>>> Michael "Dog3" said...
>>>>
>>>>> We bought a new fridge with an ice maker and water dispenser
>>>>> during the remodel. I will say this now that I have one. I'll
>>>>> never do
>>>>> without an ice maker.
>>>>
>>>> If my water supply wasn't so over-chlorinated I'd use the
>>>> icemaker. As it is, the cubes would ruin the flavor of any drinks.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>> I installed a GE inline filter on my icemaker for that very reason,
>>> works like a charm.
>>
>> I'd rather filter the entire water system from the meter, so tap
>> water could be used for drinking, cooking, etc., not only
>> ice. It would have to come with a 25 or 30 gallon reservoir
>> like a hot water heater so it wouldn't reduce water pressure to a
>> crawl while flushing, showering, wash rinse cycles, etc.
>>
>> Andy
> I have no problem drinking the tap water here, no chlorine or iron
> smell and I get a printout of the lab results covering
> everything from A to Z every six months. It's basically
> chlorinated well water here in our small city.

DC area water is not very pleasant to drink at summer temperatures but
in winter I don't seem to notice the chlorine and hardness. My usual
drinking water comes from a carbon-filter jug in the fridge.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

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Lass Chance_2 wrote:
> I wouldnt mind having a Food Processor that doesnt take a Ph.D to
> operate it.
>
> I can use the CHOP or BLEND blade, but the slice/grate attachment thingy
> is....well, beyond me. Of course, IF I had not lost the instruction
> book, I might be OK.
>
> Lass

The old food processors were great, you could slice a whole carrot, now
you have to cut the vegetables into pieces so they will fit. It takes
all the fun out of it. The new food processors have too many safety
devices, which make it a PITA to use. On the plus side, I still have all
my fingers. That helps when you drive. :-)


Becca


Becca

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Pete C. wrote:

> You do realize that animals are pretty good at taking care of themselves
> if given the chance don't you?

A few days ago there was a great big hawk perched on our fence. One of our
cats was staring out at it. I'm sure the cat was thinking, "If I could only
get outside, I'd make mincemeat out of that bird!" while the hawk was
thinking, "If only that cat could get outside, I'd have a nice big meal!"

Bob

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l, not -l wrote:
> One thing to keep in mind - the larger proportion of the floor space covered
> by the bed, the higher the probability the Roomba will finish the job and
> stop somewhere under the bed. At least 3 out of 5 times, mine stops
> somewhere under the bed. The good news is, there is a model with a docking
> station; when the Roomba is finished, it seeks out the docking station and
> goes to it to start recharging.

l, mine has the docking station, and when it backs itself into the
station, it makes that "Beep, Beep, Beep" sound, as if it is a huge
truck that is going in reverse. lol Ya gotta love it.


Becca

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Lynn wrote:

> I want an all stainless steel kitchen: walls, floor, counters,
> cabinets, shelves - the works. In the wall I want a fire hose mounted
> and a nice big drain in the middle of the floor. Then when the damn
> place gets really messy, I can just turn on the hose and the mess will
> just go right down the drain.

I believe that was called "The Man's Kitchen" in an episode of "Home
Improvement."

Bob

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Gloria wrote:

> I love our ice maker, the first we've ever had. Ice cube trays
> are so messy (because I'm a klutz.) I love having lots of ice
> so I can pack it around a kettle of soup, spaghetti sauce, chili, etc, in
> the sink to cool it down quickly. That also does a good job clearing out
> the stale ice.

You didn't throw your ice cube trays away, did you? They're still handy for
freezing stock or other liquids.

Bob

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James Silverton wrote:
> George wrote on Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:12:28 -0600:
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>> George Shirley said...
>>>
>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>> Michael "Dog3" said...
>>>>>
>>>>>> We bought a new fridge with an ice maker and water dispenser
>>>>>> during the remodel. I will say this now that I have one. I'll
>>>>>> never do
>>>>>> without an ice maker.
>>>>>
>>>>> If my water supply wasn't so over-chlorinated I'd use the
>>>>> icemaker. As it is, the cubes would ruin the flavor of any drinks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>> I installed a GE inline filter on my icemaker for that very reason,
>>>> works like a charm.
>>>
>>> I'd rather filter the entire water system from the meter, so tap
>>> water could be used for drinking, cooking, etc., not only
>>> ice. It would have to come with a 25 or 30 gallon reservoir
>>> like a hot water heater so it wouldn't reduce water pressure to a
>>> crawl while flushing, showering, wash rinse cycles, etc.
>>>
>>> Andy
>> I have no problem drinking the tap water here, no chlorine or iron
>> smell and I get a printout of the lab results covering
>> everything from A to Z every six months. It's basically
>> chlorinated well water here in our small city.
>
> DC area water is not very pleasant to drink at summer temperatures but
> in winter I don't seem to notice the chlorine and hardness. My usual
> drinking water comes from a carbon-filter jug in the fridge.
>
When I went into DC on liberty back in the late fifties I never drank
the water so can't comment on that. <VBG>

Used to drink beer at Benny's Rebel Room on, I believe, Fourteenth
Street. Swabbie bar at best, fight room at worse.

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In article >,
ChattyCathy > wrote:

> ... an item for your kitchen that you have been wanting for ages, but
> still don't have (assuming money was no object) what would it be? i.e.
> anything from pots/pans, utensils, ranges, ovens and other appliances
> (both big and small) etc.
>
> If there is more than one thing that you have been 'lusting after' for
> ever, give us a list ;-)

More counter space.

Walk-in Pantry

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James Silverton said...

> George wrote on Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:12:28 -0600:
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>> George Shirley said...
>>>
>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>> Michael "Dog3" said...
>>>>>
>>>>>> We bought a new fridge with an ice maker and water dispenser
>>>>>> during the remodel. I will say this now that I have one. I'll
>>>>>> never do
>>>>>> without an ice maker.
>>>>>
>>>>> If my water supply wasn't so over-chlorinated I'd use the
>>>>> icemaker. As it is, the cubes would ruin the flavor of any drinks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>> I installed a GE inline filter on my icemaker for that very reason,
>>>> works like a charm.
>>>
>>> I'd rather filter the entire water system from the meter, so tap
>>> water could be used for drinking, cooking, etc., not only
>>> ice. It would have to come with a 25 or 30 gallon reservoir
>>> like a hot water heater so it wouldn't reduce water pressure to a
>>> crawl while flushing, showering, wash rinse cycles, etc.
>>>
>>> Andy
>> I have no problem drinking the tap water here, no chlorine or iron
>> smell and I get a printout of the lab results covering
>> everything from A to Z every six months. It's basically
>> chlorinated well water here in our small city.
>
> DC area water is not very pleasant to drink at summer temperatures but
> in winter I don't seem to notice the chlorine and hardness. My usual
> drinking water comes from a carbon-filter jug in the fridge.


James,

If you're happy with just a refrigerated jug of filtered water to drink,
that's your prerogative.

Best,

Andy

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Andy wrote on Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:10:11 +0000 (UTC):

>> George wrote on Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:12:28 -0600:
>>
>>> Andy wrote:
>>>> George Shirley said...
>>>>
>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>> Michael "Dog3" said...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We bought a new fridge with an ice maker and water
>>>>>>> dispenser during the remodel. I will say this now that I
>>>>>>> have one. I'll never do without an ice maker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If my water supply wasn't so over-chlorinated I'd use the
>>>>>> icemaker. As it is, the cubes would ruin the flavor of
>>>>>> any drinks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>> I installed a GE inline filter on my icemaker for that
>>>>> very reason, works like a charm.
>>>>
>>>> I'd rather filter the entire water system from the meter,
>>>> so tap water could be used for drinking, cooking, etc., not
>>>> only ice. It would have to come with a 25 or 30 gallon
>>>> reservoir like a hot water heater so it wouldn't reduce
>>>> water pressure to a crawl while flushing, showering, wash
>>>> rinse cycles, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>> I have no problem drinking the tap water here, no chlorine
>>> or iron smell and I get a printout of the lab results
>>> covering everything from A to Z every six months. It's
>>> basically chlorinated well water here in our small city.
>>
>> DC area water is not very pleasant to drink at summer
>> temperatures but in winter I don't seem to notice the
>> chlorine and hardness. My usual drinking water comes from a
>> carbon-filter jug in the fridge.

> James,

> If you're happy with just a refrigerated jug of filtered water
> to drink, that's your prerogative.

Gawd, how picky can you get? Like any sensible person, I drink wine or
beer not water by preference :-) I use *carbon* filtered water to make
coffee but the difference is slight based on the few occasions when I
have been reduced to using tap water.



--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

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James Silverton said...

> Andy wrote on Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:10:11 +0000 (UTC):
>
>>> George wrote on Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:12:28 -0600:
>>>
>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>> George Shirley said...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>> Michael "Dog3" said...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We bought a new fridge with an ice maker and water
>>>>>>>> dispenser during the remodel. I will say this now that I
>>>>>>>> have one. I'll never do without an ice maker.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If my water supply wasn't so over-chlorinated I'd use the
>>>>>>> icemaker. As it is, the cubes would ruin the flavor of
>>>>>>> any drinks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>> I installed a GE inline filter on my icemaker for that
>>>>>> very reason, works like a charm.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd rather filter the entire water system from the meter,
>>>>> so tap water could be used for drinking, cooking, etc., not
>>>>> only ice. It would have to come with a 25 or 30 gallon
>>>>> reservoir like a hot water heater so it wouldn't reduce
>>>>> water pressure to a crawl while flushing, showering, wash
>>>>> rinse cycles, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>> I have no problem drinking the tap water here, no chlorine
>>>> or iron smell and I get a printout of the lab results
>>>> covering everything from A to Z every six months. It's
>>>> basically chlorinated well water here in our small city.
>>>
>>> DC area water is not very pleasant to drink at summer
>>> temperatures but in winter I don't seem to notice the
>>> chlorine and hardness. My usual drinking water comes from a
>>> carbon-filter jug in the fridge.
>
>> James,
>
>> If you're happy with just a refrigerated jug of filtered water
>> to drink, that's your prerogative.
>
> Gawd, how picky can you get? Like any sensible person, I drink wine or
> beer not water by preference :-) I use *carbon* filtered water to make
> coffee but the difference is slight based on the few occasions when I
> have been reduced to using tap water.


James,

I don't get picky, I get anal!

How many years I've rinsed my brushed teeth with a cup of bottled water I
don't wish on my worst enemy!

Best,

Andy