Something interesting I thought I'd share...

This weekend I took a friend out for a birthday dinner. Went to a little
Pan - Asian place down the block, a place I'd never patronised but it was
the choice of the Birthday Gal...

A pleasant meal in a nice space, dinner with a coupla drinks ran about
$60.00...

The service was very pleasant and enthusiastic, provided by a cute young
guy. When informed that this was a birthday "event" he treated us to
dessert...

I noticed that he was wearing a big "Gays for Obama" button (with the
requisite ghastly rainbow logo...if gays have such supposedly good taste why
do they *still* insist on donning that dreary 70's _Free To Be You And Me_
rainbow logo relic...???}. I said to him, "Did you vote yet?". "Oh yeah, I
can't wait 'til he's president, we gotta get this country going again"...

So I gave him a big smile and said, "Well, since you are a big fan of Obama
and his policies I know you won't mind if I don't tip you. The $20.00 I'd
normally leave you I'm going to 'donate' to the first homeless person I see.
I know that Obama is big on the 're-distributing the wealth' thing..."...

He gave me what can be described as a "look". I got up to leave and gave
him a huge smile, saying, "I wish you luck on election day"...once we left I
could see him through the window, commiserating with the other waitstaff and
pointing at me...he was not "smiling", shall we say.

A few minutes later I espied a homeless guy selling copies of the local
Chicago homeless "newspaper" _Streetwise_...he too was wearing a big Obama
button. I gave him a twenty, saying, "Keep it, man, Obama told me to give
this to you", to which he replied, "Hey, thanks, man! Thanks, thanks a
LOT...!!!"...and we both gave each other a big "thumbs up". I felt real,
*real* good that I had done my duty as a good citizen...I knew that the
"Karma God" was surely beaming down very kindly at me this evening..

Anyways, I think this was a pretty good demonstration of "Obamanomics" in
action...I'm a big believer in "putting one's money where one's mouth is"
and all that jazz...

Oh, and be sure to VOTE on Election Day, or if you have early voting in your
state you can vote right now...

:-)


--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
m...
> Something interesting I thought I'd share...
>
> This weekend I took a friend out for a birthday dinner. Went to a little
> Pan - Asian place down the block, a place I'd never patronised but it was
> the choice of the Birthday Gal...
>
> A pleasant meal in a nice space, dinner with a coupla drinks ran about
> $60.00...
>
> The service was very pleasant and enthusiastic, provided by a cute young
> guy. When informed that this was a birthday "event" he treated us to
> dessert...
>
> I noticed that he was wearing a big "Gays for Obama" button (with the
> requisite ghastly rainbow logo...if gays have such supposedly good taste
> why
> do they *still* insist on donning that dreary 70's _Free To Be You And Me_
> rainbow logo relic...???}. I said to him, "Did you vote yet?". "Oh yeah,
> I
> can't wait 'til he's president, we gotta get this country going again"...
>
> So I gave him a big smile and said, "Well, since you are a big fan of
> Obama
> and his policies I know you won't mind if I don't tip you. The $20.00 I'd
> normally leave you I'm going to 'donate' to the first homeless person I
> see.
> I know that Obama is big on the 're-distributing the wealth' thing..."...
>
> He gave me what can be described as a "look". I got up to leave and gave
> him a huge smile, saying, "I wish you luck on election day"...once we left
> I
> could see him through the window, commiserating with the other waitstaff
> and
> pointing at me...he was not "smiling", shall we say.
>
> A few minutes later I espied a homeless guy selling copies of the local
> Chicago homeless "newspaper" _Streetwise_...he too was wearing a big Obama
> button. I gave him a twenty, saying, "Keep it, man, Obama told me to give
> this to you", to which he replied, "Hey, thanks, man! Thanks, thanks a
> LOT...!!!"...and we both gave each other a big "thumbs up". I felt real,
> *real* good that I had done my duty as a good citizen...I knew that the
> "Karma God" was surely beaming down very kindly at me this evening..
>
> Anyways, I think this was a pretty good demonstration of "Obamanomics" in
> action...I'm a big believer in "putting one's money where one's mouth is"
> and all that jazz...
>
> Oh, and be sure to VOTE on Election Day, or if you have early voting in
> your
> state you can vote right now...
>
> :-)


So you didn't get your dick sucked I take it?

Paul

Paul M. Cook wrote:

> "Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
>
> m...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Something interesting I thought I'd share...
>
> > This weekend I took a friend out for a birthday dinner. *Went to a little
> > Pan - Asian place down the block, a place I'd never patronised but it was
> > the choice of the Birthday Gal...
>
> > A pleasant meal in a nice space, dinner with a coupla drinks ran about
> > $60.00...
>
> > The service was very pleasant and enthusiastic, provided by a cute young
> > guy. *When informed that this was a birthday "event" he treated us to
> > dessert...
>
> > I noticed that he was wearing a big "Gays for Obama" button (with the
> > requisite ghastly rainbow logo...if gays have such supposedly good taste
> > why
> > do they *still* insist on donning that dreary 70's _Free To Be You And Me_
> > rainbow logo relic...???}. *I said to him, "Did you vote yet?". *"Oh yeah,
> > I
> > can't wait 'til he's president, we gotta get this country going again"....
>
> > So I gave him a big smile and said, "Well, since you are a big fan of
> > Obama
> > and his policies I know you won't mind if I don't tip you. *The $20.00 I'd
> > normally leave you I'm going to 'donate' to the first homeless person I
> > see.
> > I know that Obama is big on the 're-distributing the wealth' thing..."....
>
> > He gave me what can be described as a "look". *I got up to leave and gave
> > him a huge smile, saying, "I wish you luck on election day"...once we left
> > I
> > could see him through the window, commiserating with the other waitstaff
> > and
> > pointing at me...he was not "smiling", shall we say.
>
> > A few minutes later I espied a homeless guy selling copies of the local
> > Chicago homeless "newspaper" _Streetwise_...he too was wearing a big Obama
> > button. *I gave him a twenty, saying, "Keep it, man, Obama told me to give
> > this to you", to which he replied, "Hey, thanks, man! *Thanks, thanks a
> > LOT...!!!"...and we both gave each other a big "thumbs up". *I felt real,
> > *real* good that I had done my duty as a good citizen...I knew that the
> > "Karma God" was surely beaming down very kindly at me this evening..
>
> > Anyways, I think this was a pretty good demonstration of "Obamanomics" in
> > action...I'm a big believer in "putting one's money where one's mouth is"
> > and all that jazz...
>
> > Oh, and be sure to VOTE on Election Day, or if you have early voting in
> > your
> > state you can vote right now...
>
> > :-)
>
> So you didn't get your dick sucked I take it?


I don't have to *pay* to have that done, Paul my darlin', Sqwertz and
the "cybercat" give me all the free head I could ever want...

But the cyberblow needs to "hone" her "technique", shall we say...her
snaggly front teeth do not "sit well" on a my extremely long dong...in
fact a Halloween pumpkin could prolly do a better job than she. But
she *begs* me, soooooo...

:-)


--
Best
Greg

"...I knew that the "Karma God" was surely beaming down very kindly at
me this evening....."

well, yes, Gregory. In your next life, you get to BE a *** guy wearing
a tacky rainbow button and dealing wiith homophobes as you try to make a
living.

Karma IS a wonderful thing.

LassChance

In article > ,
"Gregory Morrow" > wrote:

> He gave me what can be described as a "look". I got up to leave and gave
> him a huge smile, saying, "I wish you luck on election day"...once we left I
> could see him through the window, commiserating with the other waitstaff and
> pointing at me...he was not "smiling", shall we say.
>
> A few minutes later I espied a homeless guy selling copies of the local
> Chicago homeless "newspaper" _Streetwise_...he too was wearing a big Obama
> button. I gave him a twenty, saying, "Keep it, man, Obama told me to give
> this to you", to which he replied, "Hey, thanks, man! Thanks, thanks a
> LOT...!!!"...and we both gave each other a big "thumbs up". I felt real,
> *real* good that I had done my duty as a good citizen...I knew that the
> "Karma God" was surely beaming down very kindly at me this evening..
>
> Anyways, I think this was a pretty good demonstration of "Obamanomics" in
> action...I'm a big believer in "putting one's money where one's mouth is"
> and all that jazz...
>
> Oh, and be sure to VOTE on Election Day, or if you have early voting in your
> state you can vote right now...
>
> :-)
>
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

You're an asshole Greg. <giggles>

Love it.

I did vote this past Wednesday. I see no reason not to take advantage
of early voting for the two weeks it runs and avoid the crowds at the
polls on the 4th.

There are two early voting locations here in town.

If anyone has not made up their mind by now, what's the point? Y'all
have thru the 31st for early polling.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Omelet wrote:

> In article > ,
> *"Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > He gave me what can be described as a "look". *I got up to leave and gave
> > him a huge smile, saying, "I wish you luck on election day"...once we left I
> > could see him through the window, commiserating with the other waitstaff and
> > pointing at me...he was not "smiling", shall we say.
>
> > A few minutes later I espied a homeless guy selling copies of the local
> > Chicago homeless "newspaper" _Streetwise_...he too was wearing a big Obama
> > button. *I gave him a twenty, saying, "Keep it, man, Obama told me to give
> > this to you", to which he replied, "Hey, thanks, man! *Thanks, thanks a
> > LOT...!!!"...and we both gave each other a big "thumbs up". *I felt real,
> > *real* good that I had done my duty as a good citizen...I knew that the
> > "Karma God" was surely beaming down very kindly at me this evening..
>
> > Anyways, I think this was a pretty good demonstration of "Obamanomics" in
> > action...I'm a big believer in "putting one's money where one's mouth is"
> > and all that jazz...
>
> > Oh, and be sure to VOTE on Election Day, or if you have early voting in your
> > state you can vote right now...
>
> > :-)
>
> > --
> > Best
> > Greg
>
> You're an asshole Greg. <giggles>


A great big fuzzy and LOVABLE one, Om...


> Love it.


;-P



> I did vote this past Wednesday. *I see no reason not to take advantage
> of early voting for the two weeks it runs and avoid the crowds at the
> polls on the 4th.
>
> There are two early voting locations here in town.
>
> If anyone has not made up their mind by now, what's the point? *Y'all
> have thru the 31st for early polling.


As they used to say here in Chicawgo, "Vote early and vote
often"...those days are pretty much over here. A century or so ago it
was standard practise here to bribe potential voters with free drinks
or such...and if you didn't vote for the "right" candidate you could
lose your job or even your home.


--
Best
Greg

"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
m...
> Something interesting I thought I'd share...
>
> This weekend I took a friend out for a birthday dinner. Went to a little
> Pan - Asian place down the block, a place I'd never patronised but it was
> the choice of the Birthday Gal...

<story snipped>

> Best
> Greg
>
> " I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim
> that
> we are some
> kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
> - "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

Obamopertunity missed - you should have given the waiter 1/2 tip and the
homeless man the other half.

Dimitri

Dimitri wrote:
> "Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
> m...
>> Something interesting I thought I'd share...
>>
>> This weekend I took a friend out for a birthday dinner. Went to a
>> little Pan - Asian place down the block, a place I'd never
>> patronised but it was the choice of the Birthday Gal...
>
> <story snipped>
>
>> Best
>> Greg
>>
>
> Obamopertunity missed - you should have given the waiter 1/2 tip and
> the homeless man the other half.
>
> Dimitri


Forget the politics and the tip, I can't imagine spending $60 on dinner for
two at an Asian restaurant! PF Chang's way overpriced chain, maybe

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> Dimitri wrote:
> > "Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
> om...
> >> Something interesting I thought I'd share...
>
> >> This weekend I took a friend out for a birthday dinner. *Went to a
> >> little Pan - Asian place down the block, a place I'd never
> >> patronised but it was the choice of the Birthday Gal...
>
> > <story snipped>
>
> >> Best
> >> Greg
>
> > Obamopertunity missed - you should have given the waiter 1/2 tip and
> > the homeless man the other half.
>
> > Dimitri
>
> Forget the politics and the tip, I can't imagine spending $60 on dinner for
> two at an Asian restaurant! *PF Chang's way overpriced chain, maybe


We had some drinks and some sushi - type apps and stuff, it can add up
fast. Heck, the "lunch specials" at the cheap - o Chinese take - out
place down the street are now in the $8.00 - $10.00 range! I remember
not so long ago they were around five bux...I guess I'm gettin' old,
lol..

Also this place is of the new crop of "chi - chi" Pan - Asian places
that seem to be cropping up in the nabe here in Chicawgo. Very _Sex &
The City_, nice decor, and a pretty 20 - something crowd, everybody
all crowded in with tiny tables and chairs - and LOUD! The food is
secondary, I won't be going back in any case, lol...

I rarely eat out anymore, it's just pretty poor value for money.
There's a place I go to for Friday all - u - can - eat fish n' chips
for $8.00 and some cheap Chinese dim sum and bbq places where you can
fill up pretty well for little money...

For that $60.00 I could fix a feast, but it was her birthday, so...


--
Best
Greg

jmcquown wrote:
>
>
>
> Forget the politics and the tip, I can't imagine spending $60 on dinner
> for two at an Asian restaurant! PF Chang's way overpriced chain, maybe


Is that out of line. I don't go out for dinner as often as I used to
because I am retired and living on less. Besides, we don't often do
Chinese because of my wife's food allergies, which include soy.... soy
sauce. Last month when my son was visiting we went out for a Thai meal
and dinner for three was about $75. So $60 for two doesn't sound out of
line.

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:42:55 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Forget the politics and the tip, I can't imagine spending $60 on dinner
>> for two at an Asian restaurant! PF Chang's way overpriced chain, maybe
>
>
>Is that out of line. I don't go out for dinner as often as I used to
>because I am retired and living on less. Besides, we don't often do
>Chinese because of my wife's food allergies, which include soy.... soy
>sauce. Last month when my son was visiting we went out for a Thai meal
>and dinner for three was about $75. So $60 for two doesn't sound out of
>line.

Na. For a nice meal and environment it's not bad at all. Even take
out can run over 25 bucks. Add a table, service and some drinks and
60 bucks isn't that bad.

Lou

Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:42:55 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forget the politics and the tip, I can't imagine spending $60 on
>>> dinner for two at an Asian restaurant! PF Chang's way overpriced
>>> chain, maybe
>>
>>
>> Is that out of line. I don't go out for dinner as often as I used to
>> because I am retired and living on less. Besides, we don't often do
>> Chinese because of my wife's food allergies, which include soy....
>> soy sauce. Last month when my son was visiting we went out for a
>> Thai meal and dinner for three was about $75. So $60 for two doesn't
>> sound out of line.
>
> Na. For a nice meal and environment it's not bad at all. Even take
> out can run over 25 bucks. Add a table, service and some drinks and
> 60 bucks isn't that bad.
>
> Lou

I don't know about where Greg is but $25 is pretty standard for Chinese back
in Memphis. Unless you go to a large chain. Difficult to find Chinese
where I am now.

Jill

In article >,
Lou Decruss > wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:42:55 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Forget the politics and the tip, I can't imagine spending $60 on dinner
> >> for two at an Asian restaurant! PF Chang's way overpriced chain, maybe
> >
> >
> >Is that out of line. I don't go out for dinner as often as I used to
> >because I am retired and living on less. Besides, we don't often do
> >Chinese because of my wife's food allergies, which include soy.... soy
> >sauce. Last month when my son was visiting we went out for a Thai meal
> >and dinner for three was about $75. So $60 for two doesn't sound out of
> >line.
>
> Na. For a nice meal and environment it's not bad at all. Even take
> out can run over 25 bucks. Add a table, service and some drinks and
> 60 bucks isn't that bad.
>
> Lou

That's why I usually do lunch instead of dinner when wanting to go out.
It's often about 1/2 the price.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:55:18 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:42:55 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forget the politics and the tip, I can't imagine spending $60 on dinner
>>> for two at an Asian restaurant! PF Chang's way overpriced chain, maybe
>>
>>
>>Is that out of line. I don't go out for dinner as often as I used to
>>because I am retired and living on less. Besides, we don't often do
>>Chinese because of my wife's food allergies, which include soy.... soy
>>sauce. Last month when my son was visiting we went out for a Thai meal
>>and dinner for three was about $75. So $60 for two doesn't sound out of
>>line.
>
> Na. For a nice meal and environment it's not bad at all. Even take
> out can run over 25 bucks. Add a table, service and some drinks and
> 60 bucks isn't that bad.
>
> Lou

it seems pretty high for mediocre chinese food, which seems to be p.f.
chang's reputation.

your pal,
blake

"Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
5.250...
> "Dimitri" >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
>>
>> "Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
>> m...
>>> Something interesting I thought I'd share...
<snip>
> However, Greg did not show Republican
> tendencies either. Were Greg a Republican he would have manufactured a
> reason to stiff the waiter, either ignored or kicked the homeless man, and
> invested the $20 in Exxon.

Will you marry me? Steven won't mind....

TammyM

On Oct 27, 4:09*pm, "Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:
> "Dimitri" @fl pi149.ffdc.sbc.com:in rec.food.cooking
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
> om...
> >> Something interesting I thought I'd share...
>
> >> This weekend I took a friend out for a birthday dinner. *Went to a
> >> little Pan - Asian place down the block, a place I'd never patronised
> >> but it was the choice of the Birthday Gal...
>
> > <story snipped>
>
> >> Best
> >> Greg
>
> >> " I find Greg Morrow *lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to
> >> claim that
> >> we are some
> >> kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
> >> - "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking
>
> > Obamopertunity missed - you should have given the waiter 1/2 tip and
> > the homeless man the other half.
>
> Yes, well he didn't. Greg is my sistah and I luvs him, but sometimes... *He
> took from someone that probably makes less than $25 grand a year (unless
> the waiter is Allan Greenspan in disguise, trying to see how the little
> people live so he can relate to them) and gave it to the homeless man. *
> Either Greg knows nothing of the economic policies of either party or he
> chooses to make jokes of them. *However, Greg did not show Republican
> tendencies either. *Were Greg a Republican he would have manufactured a
> reason to stiff the waiter, either ignored or kicked the homeless man, and
> invested the $20 in Exxon.


Lol...

Actually, if I were in the waiter's position I would have thought
something along the lines of "Hmmm...maybe I shouldn't wear anything
that promotes any particular political candidate, maybe nobody cares
who I vote for. I'm there to do my job, not to proselytize...".

Voting and politics is a very personal thing, and I don't bring up the
subject unless someone else does. Being in the heart of the ***
community *everyone* assumes that *every* *** person is voting for
Obama or whoever the Democratic candidate of the moment is, they
assume that all conservatives are evil, that Reagan was The Devil
Incarnate, etc. So when someone - and I'm speaking especially here
of the *** activists I know - starts going on about "our community"
and such I'll always pipe up and say, "Uh, did I elect you to speak
for me?". These types always act very shocked when I respond in such
a manner my response is, "Well, Y-O-U brought it up, didn't you? Did
it ever occur to you that not every single person you encounter might
not agree with you...???".

As I've gotten older I've gotten very tired of all the politically
crap, and there is a LOT of it in the *** community. These people are
a pretty smug and self - satisfied bunch, very adept at crying
"victim" and pointing an accusing finger at any who dare to disagree
with them...many take the moral high road when they personally
*themselves* are naught but scumbags. That to me is simply childish
and immature and I distance myself from that. IMNSHO the the "***
community" is a pretty fvcked - up group who need to grow up and get
their acts together, the only "community" that's more messed - up is
the black community...

The thing is that when some group - in this case the *** community -
posits themselves as so very morally superior to, say, Republicans or
conservatives or whatever and when they act exactly as bad or worse as
they they are criticising that makes them hypocrites. I *ain't*
havin' it...

It's similar to when the Repugs were all braying about Clinton's
blowjob a decade ago and then it comes out that some of his GOP
accusers (particularly IL Rep. Henry Hyde aka "Henry Hyde the Humbug"
as we called him here in Illannoy) was just as guilty of even *worse*
egregrious behaviours in his past, e.g. blatant affairs, divorces,
etc.

BTW years ago I was in some podunk place downstate and I ate at a
place where you got a printed bible verse thing with your check. I
did not tip *that* waitperson either, same as I did with the incident
above. Your particular agenda is *not* my business, so don't be all
annoying and shoving it my face and then expect me to *pay* you for it
on top of everything...it's simply common sense to me.

Anyways, I am a very generous tipper and I am always kind to those
working in public contact positions, I'm big on the "Please, thank
you, sir, ma'am" stuff. I've worked those jobs and a customer being
nice to them more often than not might even make their day...they work
pretty hard for not much money.


--
Best
Greg

In article
>,
Gregory Morrow > wrote:

> Actually, if I were in the waiter's position I would have thought
> something along the lines of "Hmmm...maybe I shouldn't wear anything
> that promotes any particular political candidate, maybe nobody cares
> who I vote for. I'm there to do my job, not to proselytize...".

I agree... especially since this political season seems to be more
sensitive than usual.

I voted last Wednesday to beat the crowds at the polls. Early voting
goes on for two weeks. There's no reason not to as if anyone has not
made up their minds by now, what's the point? :-)

Y'all have 'till the 31st to beat the crowds.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> I noticed that he was wearing a big "Gays for Obama" button (with the
> requisite ghastly rainbow logo...

yeah. right. Gays should be punished.

BugBear

"bugbear" > wrote in message
...
> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>> I noticed that he was wearing a big "Gays for Obama" button (with the
>> requisite ghastly rainbow logo...
>
> yeah. right. Gays should be punished.
>

Clue: Greg's a pig.

"Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
...
> bugbear > news:Qb-dnSo-
> net: in rec.food.cooking
>
>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>> I noticed that he was wearing a big "Gays for Obama" button (with the
>>> requisite ghastly rainbow logo...
>>
>> yeah. right. Gays should be punished.
>
> Bugbear, Greg is as *** as pink ink. He wasn't punishing the server on a
> personal level. He was trying to make some sort of statement which didn't
> come off... at all.
>
> Michael <- big old fag...

And, like your good buddy Greg, a flaming ****ing racist, apparently.

cybercat wrote:

> "Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > bugbear > *news:Qb-dnSo-
> > : in rec.food.cooking
>
> >> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> >>> I noticed that he was wearing a big "Gays for Obama" button (with the
> >>> requisite ghastly rainbow logo...
>
> >> yeah. right. Gays should be punished.
>
> > Bugbear, Greg is as *** as pink ink. *He wasn't punishing the server on a
> > personal level. *He was trying to make some sort of statement which didn't
> > come off... at all.
>
> > Michael <- big old fag...
>
> And, like your good buddy Greg, a flaming ****ing racist, apparently.


There is not a racist cell in Michael's *entire* being, cybersnatch,
nor in mine...


--
Best
Greg

On Oct 28, 4:55�pm, Gregory Morrow >
wrote:
> cybercat wrote:
> > "Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > > bugbear > �news:Qb-dnSo-
> > > : in rec.food.cooking
>
> > >> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> > >>> I noticed that he was wearing a big "Gays for Obama" button (with the
> > >>> requisite ghastly rainbow logo...
>
> > >> yeah. right. Gays should be punished.
>
> > > Bugbear, Greg is as *** as pink ink. �He wasn't punishing the server on a
> > > personal level. �He was trying to make some sort of statement which didn't
> > > come off... at all.
>
> > > Michael <- big old fag...
>
> > And, like your good buddy Greg, a flaming ****ing racist, apparently.
>
> There is not a racist cell in Michael's *entire* being, cybersnatch,
> nor in mine...

Zactly.. just because some are adverse to those with a fetid snatch
doesn't mean they're racist, Cyberschtink.

Sheldon wrote:

> On Oct 28, 4:55 pm, Gregory Morrow >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > cybercat wrote:
> > > "Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
>
> > ...
>
> > > > bugbear > news:Qb-dnSo-
> > > > : in rec.food.cooking
>
> > > >> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> > > >>> I noticed that he was wearing a big "Gays for Obama" button (with the
> > > >>> requisite ghastly rainbow logo...
>
> > > >> yeah. right. Gays should be punished.
>
> > > > Bugbear, Greg is as *** as pink ink. He wasn't punishing the server on a
> > > > personal level. He was trying to make some sort of statement which didn't
> > > > come off... at all.
>
> > > > Michael <- big old fag...
>
> > > And, like your good buddy Greg, a flaming ****ing racist, apparently.
>
> > There is not a racist cell in Michael's *entire* being, cybersnatch,
> > nor in mine...
>
> Zactly.. just because some are adverse to those with a fetid snatch
> doesn't mean they're racist, Cyberschtink.


The cyberchancre has been a B-A-A-A-A-D l'il girl lately Sheldon, what
do you think her punishment should be, lol...???

I heard that her moustache is infested with pubic lice, too...

:-P


--
Best
Greg

In article >,
"Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:

> bugbear > news:Qb-dnSo-
> net: in rec.food.cooking
>
> > Gregory Morrow wrote:
> >> I noticed that he was wearing a big "Gays for Obama" button (with the
> >> requisite ghastly rainbow logo...
> >
> > yeah. right. Gays should be punished.
>
> Bugbear, Greg is as *** as pink ink. He wasn't punishing the server on a
> personal level.

Sorry to disagree with you this time, Michael. I don't think you can
get much more personal than stiffing a server at a nice restaurant for
wearing a political button supporting a candidate different than the one
the diner supported.

> He was trying to make some sort of statement which didn't
> come off... at all.

I guess he made his point. I suspect he won't try eating there again
anytime soon.

> Michael <- big old fag...

Well, that brings up another point. Unless this was a restaurant that
catered mostly to gays, perhaps wearing a button proclaiming that the
server was *** might turn off a few tips, also.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Im sure Miss Alaska would have done the VERY same thing! Not because
the waiter was *** or even because he was a Democrat....but because she
couldnt figure out 20% of the check and isnt aware that pocket
calculators have been invented.

Plus, it's damn hard to GET moose fried rice.

LassChance

> Anyways, I think this was a pretty good demonstration of "Obamanomics" in
> action...I'm a big believer in "putting one's money where one's mouth is"
> and all that jazz...


Here's a better one per the Tax Policy Center. This is how Obama's tax plan
breaks down for individuals:

$0-$18,891 = $567 tax cut
$18,982-$37,595 = $892 tax cut
$37,596-$66,354 = $1,118 tax cut
$66,355-$111,645 = $1,264 tax cut
$111,646-$160,972 = $2,135 tax cut
$160,973-$226,918 = $2,796 tax cut
$226,919-$603,402 = $121 tax increase
$603,403-$2.87 million = $93,709 tax increase
$2.87 million-plus = $542,882 tax increase

Joe the plumber would see his taxes go down and his business receive tax
breaks and deductions to more than offset any additional taxes possibly
incurred. Dutoi the rip-off artist running a restaurant charging 60 bucks
for dinner for two for Chinese food. With the money he gets bck Greg could
buy a lot of BJs.

Paul

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>
>> Anyways, I think this was a pretty good demonstration of "Obamanomics" in
>> action...I'm a big believer in "putting one's money where one's mouth is"
>> and all that jazz...
>
>
> Here's a better one per the Tax Policy Center. This is how Obama's tax
> plan breaks down for individuals:
>
> $0-$18,891 = $567 tax cut
> $18,982-$37,595 = $892 tax cut
> $37,596-$66,354 = $1,118 tax cut
> $66,355-$111,645 = $1,264 tax cut
> $111,646-$160,972 = $2,135 tax cut
> $160,973-$226,918 = $2,796 tax cut
> $226,919-$603,402 = $121 tax increase
> $603,403-$2.87 million = $93,709 tax increase
> $2.87 million-plus = $542,882 tax increase
>
> Joe the plumber would see his taxes go down and his business receive tax
> breaks and deductions to more than offset any additional taxes possibly
> incurred. Dutoi the rip-off artist running a restaurant charging 60 bucks
> for dinner for two for Chinese food. With the money he gets bck Greg
> could buy a lot of BJs.
>

Eeeeyyyyyuu ...

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>
>> Anyways, I think this was a pretty good demonstration of "Obamanomics" in
>> action...I'm a big believer in "putting one's money where one's mouth is"
>> and all that jazz...
>
>
> Here's a better one per the Tax Policy Center. This is how Obama's tax
> plan breaks down for individuals:
>
> $0-$18,891 = $567 tax cut
> $18,982-$37,595 = $892 tax cut
> $37,596-$66,354 = $1,118 tax cut
> $66,355-$111,645 = $1,264 tax cut
> $111,646-$160,972 = $2,135 tax cut
> $160,973-$226,918 = $2,796 tax cut
> $226,919-$603,402 = $121 tax increase
> $603,403-$2.87 million = $93,709 tax increase
> $2.87 million-plus = $542,882 tax increase
>
> Joe the plumber would see his taxes go down and his business receive tax
> breaks and deductions to more than offset any additional taxes possibly
> incurred. Dutoi the rip-off artist running a restaurant charging 60 bucks
> for dinner for two for Chinese food. With the money he gets bck Greg
> could buy a lot of BJs.
>
> Paul


There's only one problem.

The President doesn't have the power to TAX.

Only the congress has the power.

Ergo as per Penn & Teller

BULL SHIT!

Dimitri

Amendment XVI
(Ratified February 3, 1913)
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from
whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and
without regard to any census or enumeration.

"Dimitri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>> Anyways, I think this was a pretty good demonstration of "Obamanomics"
>>> in
>>> action...I'm a big believer in "putting one's money where one's mouth
>>> is"
>>> and all that jazz...
>>
>>
>> Here's a better one per the Tax Policy Center. This is how Obama's tax
>> plan breaks down for individuals:
>>
>> $0-$18,891 = $567 tax cut
>> $18,982-$37,595 = $892 tax cut
>> $37,596-$66,354 = $1,118 tax cut
>> $66,355-$111,645 = $1,264 tax cut
>> $111,646-$160,972 = $2,135 tax cut
>> $160,973-$226,918 = $2,796 tax cut
>> $226,919-$603,402 = $121 tax increase
>> $603,403-$2.87 million = $93,709 tax increase
>> $2.87 million-plus = $542,882 tax increase
>>
>> Joe the plumber would see his taxes go down and his business receive tax
>> breaks and deductions to more than offset any additional taxes possibly
>> incurred. Dutoi the rip-off artist running a restaurant charging 60
>> bucks for dinner for two for Chinese food. With the money he gets bck
>> Greg could buy a lot of BJs.
>>
>> Paul
>
>
> There's only one problem.
>
> The President doesn't have the power to TAX.

The president sets the legislative agenda to a fairly high degree by
pressing his own initiatives. The executive writes the budgets and this is
where their clout comes into play.

> Only the congress has the power.

The president does have to power to veto tax laws, too.

> Ergo as per Penn & Teller
>
> BULL SHIT!


Technically you are right but the president sets the budget agenda and has
considerable political clout to make it happen especially when newly
elected. Just like Bush pushed through his entire tax plan in 2001 with the
exception he was forced to accept a 10 year sunset clause. That is called a
compromise and compromise is what democracy is all about. But thanks for
expressing your childish naiveté regarding civics. You have the basics down
but you simply don't seem to know how it all ties together and the
interplays that make it all work.

Elected, you can be assured Congress will pass all of Obama's tax changes.
Especially since it looks like the repugs will have their asses handed to
them on a plate come Tuesday.

Paul

In article >,
"Paul M. Cook" > wrote:

> Elected, you can be assured Congress will pass all of Obama's tax changes.
> Especially since it looks like the repugs will have their asses handed to
> them on a plate come Tuesday.

While I agree that what you say is probably true, why is it a leftist
trait to denigrate the opposition by calling them names? Perhaps your
vocabulary never left the schoolyard. You were cogent until "repug".

leo

"Leonard Blaisdell" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
>
>> Elected, you can be assured Congress will pass all of Obama's tax
>> changes.
>> Especially since it looks like the repugs will have their asses handed to
>> them on a plate come Tuesday.
>
> While I agree that what you say is probably true, why is it a leftist
> trait to denigrate the opposition by calling them names? Perhaps your
> vocabulary never left the schoolyard. You were cogent until "repug".
>

Me? How about the guy who started it with BULL SHIT? If they dish it out
they get it right back - fair enough, eh? Somehow I think I'll muddle
through your criticism.

Paul

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:33:11 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

> In article >,
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
>
>> Elected, you can be assured Congress will pass all of Obama's tax changes.
>> Especially since it looks like the repugs will have their asses handed to
>> them on a plate come Tuesday.
>
> While I agree that what you say is probably true, why is it a leftist
> trait to denigrate the opposition by calling them names? Perhaps your
> vocabulary never left the schoolyard. You were cogent until "repug".
>
> leo

much better to be a republican and accuse people of not being
'pro-american' or being a 'terrorist pal,' or 'closet muslim,' huh?

your pal,
blake

In article >,
"Dimitri" > wrote:

> Amendment XVI
> (Ratified February 3, 1913)
> The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from
> whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and
> without regard to any census or enumeration.

Good on you for actually READING the constitution. I have a copy on my
HD if anyone wants a copy.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Dimitri" > wrote:
>
>> Amendment XVI
>> (Ratified February 3, 1913)
>> The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from
>> whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States,
>> and
>> without regard to any census or enumeration.
>
> Good on you for actually READING the constitution. I have a copy on my
> HD if anyone wants a copy.


Me too and you can read it online. I love these civics lessons. Quick,
what article of the Constitution empowers Congress to levy taxes and not
*specifically* income taxes? Regardless, even if we had a split Congress,
Obama if elected would have his tax plan passed - it would be a huge
precedent shift to deny a new president his initiatives. It's just not done
traditionally but it could be done, yes.

See below for the answer to my question.

















Answer:

Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution, which states:

"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and
excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general
welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be
uniform throughout the United States"

Contrary to what others have posted, the 16th Amendment to the Constitution
cleared up the status of income taxes specifically. The poster was quite
wrong in using the 16th to make some support attempt at what is not even
being disputed in the first place. The 16th declared income taxes to be an
indirect tax not subject to "uniform" distribution i.e. apportionment.
Income taxes were always legal under Article 1, Section 8. The 16th just
settled the issue. It does not permit Congress to levy taxes - taxes being
a collective term, income taxes being a specific tax. Article 1 already did
that.

Paul

In article >,
"Paul M. Cook" > wrote:

> Contrary to what others have posted, the 16th Amendment to the Constitution
> cleared up the status of income taxes specifically. The poster was quite
> wrong in using the 16th to make some support attempt at what is not even
> being disputed in the first place. The 16th declared income taxes to be an
> indirect tax not subject to "uniform" distribution i.e. apportionment.
> Income taxes were always legal under Article 1, Section 8. The 16th just
> settled the issue. It does not permit Congress to levy taxes - taxes being
> a collective term, income taxes being a specific tax. Article 1 already did
> that.
>
> Paul

Personally, I'd like to see the 16th repealed.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

On Oct 27, 10:27 am, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
> Something interesting I thought I'd share...
>
> This weekend I took a friend out for a birthday dinner. Went to a little
> Pan - Asian place down the block, a place I'd never patronised but it was
> the choice of the Birthday Gal...
>
> A pleasant meal in a nice space, dinner with a coupla drinks ran about
> $60.00...
>
> The service was very pleasant and enthusiastic, provided by a cute young
> guy. When informed that this was a birthday "event" he treated us to
> dessert...
>
> I noticed that he was wearing a big "Gays for Obama" button (with the
> requisite ghastly rainbow logo...if gays have such supposedly good taste why
> do they *still* insist on donning that dreary 70's _Free To Be You And Me_
> rainbow logo relic...???}. I said to him, "Did you vote yet?". "Oh yeah, I
> can't wait 'til he's president, we gotta get this country going again"...
>
> So I gave him a big smile and said, "Well, since you are a big fan of Obama
> and his policies I know you won't mind if I don't tip you. The $20.00 I'd
> normally leave you I'm going to 'donate' to the first homeless person I see.
> I know that Obama is big on the 're-distributing the wealth' thing..."...
>
> He gave me what can be described as a "look". I got up to leave and gave
> him a huge smile, saying, "I wish you luck on election day"...once we left I
> could see him through the window, commiserating with the other waitstaff and
> pointing at me...he was not "smiling", shall we say.
>
> A few minutes later I espied a homeless guy selling copies of the local
> Chicago homeless "newspaper" _Streetwise_...he too was wearing a big Obama
> button. I gave him a twenty, saying, "Keep it, man, Obama told me to give
> this to you", to which he replied, "Hey, thanks, man! Thanks, thanks a
> LOT...!!!"...and we both gave each other a big "thumbs up". I felt real,
> *real* good that I had done my duty as a good citizen...I knew that the
> "Karma God" was surely beaming down very kindly at me this evening..
>
> Anyways, I think this was a pretty good demonstration of "Obamanomics" in
> action...I'm a big believer in "putting one's money where one's mouth is"
> and all that jazz...
>
> Oh, and be sure to VOTE on Election Day, or if you have early voting in your
> state you can vote right now...
>
> :-)
>
> --
> Best
> Greg
>
> " I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
> we are some
> kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
> - "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

What did Ye Birthday Gal think of this incident? Would you have tipped
had he been wearing a McCain button?

In article
>,
wrote:

> > Anyways, I think this was a pretty good demonstration of "Obamanomics" in
> > action...I'm a big believer in "putting one's money where one's mouth is"
> > and all that jazz...
> >
> > Oh, and be sure to VOTE on Election Day, or if you have early voting in your
> > state you can vote right now...
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > --
> > Best
> > Greg
>
> What did Ye Birthday Gal think of this incident? Would you have tipped
> had he been wearing a McCain button?

Gotta admit Greg, in all fairness, that's a perfectly valid question...
<eg>

Om -> Stirring the pot...
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Omelet wrote:

> In article
> >,
> wrote:
>
> > > Anyways, I think this was a pretty good demonstration of "Obamanomics"
in
> > > action...I'm a big believer in "putting one's money where one's mouth
is"
> > > and all that jazz...
> > >
> > > Oh, and be sure to VOTE on Election Day, or if you have early voting
in your
> > > state you can vote right now...
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best
> > > Greg
> >
> > What did Ye Birthday Gal think of this incident? Would you have tipped
> > had he been wearing a McCain button?
>
> Gotta admit Greg, in all fairness, that's a perfectly valid question...
> <eg>


It is...and I would have tipped if it was a McCain button, he hasn't been
going on about "sharing the wealth"...that was my whole original point.
However I still don't think it's good form for an employee who depends on
tips for income to wear political buttons and the like...


> Om -> Stirring the pot...


"Boil, boil, toil and trouble..."

;-P

BTW Om, I "hear" that the Chicago Police Department is preparing for "riot
duty" on Tuesday night..."stay tuned" as they say...there was a live press
conference on the local cable nooze channel today, it was a friggin' MELEE
with the reporters shooting questions to the assorted stonewalling city
officials. Just so ya know...

That homeless guy I gave the twenty to was all up and down the street
tonight (loverly nite, it was 65 degress, will be sunny and 70 here in
Chicawgo for election day) bothering everybody in all the little businesses.
They kicked him out of the Pilipino corner store where I was buying Mae Ploy
chili sauce (SQWERTZ ALERT!) and baloney for sammiches...then he came into
our corner bar where he was kicked out...the cops were called to the Mexican
resto next door, he was put into custody because he went in and pulled down
his pants in front of several female patrons...I guess "spreading the
wealth" did not work in this particulur case.


:-|


--
Best
Greg

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:17:17 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:


>
>BTW Om, I "hear" that the Chicago Police Department is preparing for "riot
>duty" on Tuesday night..."stay tuned" as they say...there was a live press
>conference on the local cable nooze channel today, it was a friggin' MELEE
>with the reporters shooting questions to the assorted stonewalling city
>officials. Just so ya know...

My friend who is a paramedic got chosen (stuck) working the party
tonight. Obama has his own medics or doctors with him but the city
supplies the ambulances and a medic to drive it if something happens.
He had to go through screening and background checks for something he
wants no part of doing. I hope people behave tonight no matter how
the election turns out.

Lou

Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:17:17 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >
> >BTW Om, I "hear" that the Chicago Police Department is preparing for
"riot
> >duty" on Tuesday night..."stay tuned" as they say...there was a live
press
> >conference on the local cable nooze channel today, it was a friggin'
MELEE
> >with the reporters shooting questions to the assorted stonewalling city
> >officials. Just so ya know...
>
> My friend who is a paramedic got chosen (stuck) working the party
> tonight. Obama has his own medics or doctors with him but the city
> supplies the ambulances and a medic to drive it if something happens.
> He had to go through screening and background checks for something he
> wants no part of doing. I hope people behave tonight no matter how
> the election turns out.


They did AFAIK...

--
Best
Greg