Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
Butterfly Shrimp". Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
size. What the heck is going on in this world? Is nothing any good
any more? I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
going to do.

Alexm

On Apr 16, 3:33*pm, Alexm > wrote:
> Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
> Butterfly Shrimp". *Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
> The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
> breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
> size. *What the heck is going on in this world? *Is nothing any good
> any more? *I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
> them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
> going to do.
>
> Alexm

And I just went back to the store and got the total refund!

Alexm

Alexm wrote on Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:09:53 -0700 (PDT):

A> On Apr 16, 3:33 pm, Alexm > wrote:
??>> Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R)
??>> "Jumbo Breaded Butterfly Shrimp". Well, the shrimp were
??>> noways near jumbo in size. The breading is spread out to
??>> make them look large but, when the breading comes off, the
??>> shrimp look very much less than medium in size. What the
??>> heck is going on in this world? Is nothing any good any
??>> more? I would suggest that anyone who buys such products
??>> take them back to the store and get a full refund - which
??>> is what I am going to do.
??>>
??>> Alexm

A> And I just went back to the store and got the total refund!

Are there standards for those descriptions? I don't know what
"jumbo" means but it seems to imply large-sized but it may not
have a legal definition. However, much the best way to buy
shrimp is to patronize stores that give the average number per
pound. Whole Foods, Giant and Balducci's in my area do so.


James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

James Silverton wrote:
> Alexm wrote on Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:09:53 -0700 (PDT):
>
> A> On Apr 16, 3:33 pm, Alexm > wrote:
> ??>> Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R)
> ??>> "Jumbo Breaded Butterfly Shrimp". Well, the shrimp were
> ??>> noways near jumbo in size. The breading is spread out to
> ??>> make them look large but, when the breading comes off, the
> ??>> shrimp look very much less than medium in size. What the
> ??>> heck is going on in this world? Is nothing any good any
> ??>> more? I would suggest that anyone who buys such products
> ??>> take them back to the store and get a full refund - which
> ??>> is what I am going to do.
> ??>>
> ??>> Alexm
>
> A> And I just went back to the store and got the total refund!
>
> Are there standards for those descriptions? I don't know what "jumbo"
> means but it seems to imply large-sized but it may not have a legal
> definition. However, much the best way to buy shrimp is to patronize
> stores that give the average number per pound. Whole Foods, Giant and
> Balducci's in my area do so.
>
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

But what is wrong with a little creative marketing? Two of my favorites
are a nearby housing development where they advertised LARGE half acre
lots and the used car lot that has "ABSOLUTELY NEW!!!!!" placards on
most of their cars.

James Silverton wrote:
> Alexm wrote on Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:09:53 -0700 (PDT):
>
> A> On Apr 16, 3:33 pm, Alexm > wrote:
> ??>> Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R)
> ??>> "Jumbo Breaded Butterfly Shrimp". Well, the shrimp were
> ??>> noways near jumbo in size. The breading is spread out to
> ??>> make them look large but, when the breading comes off, the
> ??>> shrimp look very much less than medium in size. What the
> ??>> heck is going on in this world? Is nothing any good any
> ??>> more? I would suggest that anyone who buys such products
> ??>> take them back to the store and get a full refund - which
> ??>> is what I am going to do.
> ??>>
> ??>> Alexm
>
> A> And I just went back to the store and got the total refund!
>
> Are there standards for those descriptions? I don't know what "jumbo"
> means but it seems to imply large-sized but it may not have a legal
> definition. However, much the best way to buy shrimp is to patronize
> stores that give the average number per pound. Whole Foods, Giant and
> Balducci's in my area do so.
>
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
that's the only way they're sold at fish markets here in Louisiana. It's
called the "count", sixteen count to the pound, twelve count to the
pound, etc. Jumbo's are usually twelve count or less. Gumbo shrimp may
be thirty-six to the pound.

George

On Apr 16, 4:16*pm, "James Silverton" >
wrote:
> *Alexm *wrote *on Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:09:53 -0700 (PDT):
>
> *A> On Apr 16, 3:33 pm, Alexm > wrote:
> *??>> Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R)
> *??>> "Jumbo Breaded Butterfly Shrimp". *Well, the shrimp were
> *??>> noways near jumbo in size. The breading is spread out to
> *??>> make them look large but, when the breading comes off, the
> *??>> shrimp look very much less than medium in size. *What the
> *??>> heck is going on in this world? *Is nothing any good any
> *??>> more? *I would suggest that anyone who buys such products
> *??>> take them back to the store and get a full refund - which
> *??>> is what I am going to do.
> *??>>
> *??>> Alexm
>
> *A> And I just went back to the store and got the total refund!
>
> Are there standards for those descriptions? I don't know what
> "jumbo" means but it seems to imply large-sized but it may not
> have a legal definition. However, much the best way to buy
> shrimp is to patronize stores that give the average number per
> pound. Whole Foods, Giant and Balducci's in my area do so.
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> E-mail, with obvious alterations:
> not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

These were prepared breaded shrimp. Apparently the word "Jumbo"
refers to the breading and not to the enclosed shrimpy shrimp.
"Jumbo Breaded Butterfly Shrimp" may or may not have been cleared by a
team of lawyers. It did not state it as "Breaded Butterfly Jumbo
Shrimp". Clever, clever, clever. If you stick a shrimp inside a loaf
of bread that would really be jumbo.

Alexm

Alexm

"Alexm" > wrote

>These were prepared breaded shrimp. Apparently the word "Jumbo"
>refers to the breading and not to the enclosed shrimpy shrimp.
>"Jumbo Breaded Butterfly Shrimp" may or may not have been cleared by a
>team of lawyers. It did not state it as "Breaded Butterfly Jumbo
>Shrimp". Clever, clever, clever. If you stick a shrimp inside a loaf
>of bread that would really be jumbo.

I don't think there is a legal definition of jumbo shrimp. But
I can assure you, when you buy pre-breaded shrimp, butterflied
no less, it's not going to be the same as jumbo shrimp you buy
and make yourself. You had expectations that were doomed to
disappoint. I am sure you did not *pay* what jumbo shrimp
would cost.

nancy

On Apr 17, 7:52*am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> "Alexm" > wrote
>
> >These were prepared breaded shrimp. *Apparently the word "Jumbo"
> >refers to the breading and not to the enclosed shrimpy shrimp.
> >"Jumbo Breaded Butterfly Shrimp" may or may not have been cleared by a
> >team of lawyers. *It did not state it as "Breaded Butterfly Jumbo
> >Shrimp". *Clever, clever, clever. *If you stick a shrimp inside a loaf
> >of bread that would really be jumbo.
>
> I don't think there is a legal definition of jumbo shrimp. *But
> I can assure you, when you buy pre-breaded shrimp, butterflied
> no less, it's not going to be the same as jumbo shrimp you buy
> and make yourself. *You had expectations that were doomed to
> disappoint. *I am sure you did not *pay* what jumbo shrimp
> would cost.

He might have. I get the same thing to keep on hand for when I need a
quick dinner and haven't defrosted or planned anything else. I
believe
I pay $8 for the eight-ounce box, or possibly more now that food
prices
have shot up so much. I figure it's the price of convenience, and I
don't
much look at the prices of things in the grocery store.

Cindy Hamilton

On Apr 17, 6:52*am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> "Alexm" > wrote
>
> >These were prepared breaded shrimp. *Apparently the word "Jumbo"
> >refers to the breading and not to the enclosed shrimpy shrimp.
> >"Jumbo Breaded Butterfly Shrimp" may or may not have been cleared by a
> >team of lawyers. *It did not state it as "Breaded Butterfly Jumbo
> >Shrimp". *Clever, clever, clever. *If you stick a shrimp inside a loaf
> >of bread that would really be jumbo.
>
> I don't think there is a legal definition of jumbo shrimp. *But
> I can assure you, when you buy pre-breaded shrimp, butterflied
> no less, it's not going to be the same as jumbo shrimp you buy
> and make yourself. *You had expectations that were doomed to
> disappoint. *I am sure you did not *pay* what jumbo shrimp
> would cost.
>
> nancy

My expectations were far below jumbo and far above what I got.

Alexm

Alexm wrote:
> On Apr 16, 4:16 pm, "James Silverton" >
> wrote:
>> Alexm wrote on Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:09:53 -0700 (PDT):
>>
>>> On Apr 16, 3:33 pm, Alexm > wrote:
>>>> Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R)
>>>> "Jumbo Breaded Butterfly Shrimp". Well, the shrimp were
>>>> noways near jumbo in size. The breading is spread out to
>>>> make them look large but, when the breading comes off, the
>>>> shrimp look very much less than medium in size. What the
>>>> heck is going on in this world? Is nothing any good any
>>>> more? I would suggest that anyone who buys such products
>>>> take them back to the store and get a full refund - which
>>>> is what I am going to do.
>>>>
>>>> Alexm
>>
>>> And I just went back to the store and got the total refund!
>>
>> Are there standards for those descriptions? I don't know what
>> "jumbo" means but it seems to imply large-sized but it may not
>> have a legal definition. However, much the best way to buy
>> shrimp is to patronize stores that give the average number per
>> pound. Whole Foods, Giant and Balducci's in my area do so.
>>
>> James Silverton
>> Potomac, Maryland
>>
>
> These were prepared breaded shrimp. Apparently the word "Jumbo"
> refers to the breading and not to the enclosed shrimpy shrimp.
> "Jumbo Breaded Butterfly Shrimp" may or may not have been cleared by a
> team of lawyers. It did not state it as "Breaded Butterfly Jumbo
> Shrimp". Clever, clever, clever. If you stick a shrimp inside a loaf
> of bread that would really be jumbo.
>
> Alexm
>
But how is it the grocery store's fault you didn't read/understand the
packaging? I'd say you were lucky they gave you a refund. It's not as if
the shrimp were "bad", just that you felt deceived. Caveat emptor.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote

> Alexm wrote:

>> team of lawyers. It did not state it as "Breaded Butterfly Jumbo
>> Shrimp". Clever, clever, clever. If you stick a shrimp inside a loaf
>> of bread that would really be jumbo.

> But how is it the grocery store's fault you didn't read/understand the
> packaging? I'd say you were lucky they gave you a refund. It's not as if
> the shrimp were "bad", just that you felt deceived. Caveat emptor.

Next thing you know, you can't get Dr. Pepper at Cheesecake Factory,
life sucks!

nancy

On Apr 17, 7:13*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Alexm wrote:
> > On Apr 16, 4:16 pm, "James Silverton" >
> > wrote:
> >> Alexm wrote on Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:09:53 -0700 (PDT):
>
> >>> On Apr 16, 3:33 pm, Alexm > wrote:
> >>>> Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R)
> >>>> "Jumbo Breaded Butterfly Shrimp". Well, the shrimp were
> >>>> noways near jumbo in size. The breading is spread out to
> >>>> make them look large but, when the breading comes off, the
> >>>> shrimp look very much less than medium in size. What the
> >>>> heck is going on in this world? Is nothing any good any
> >>>> more? I would suggest that anyone who buys such products
> >>>> take them back to the store and get a full refund - which
> >>>> is what I am going to do.
>
> >>>> Alexm
>
> >>> And I just went back to the store and got the total refund!
>
> >> Are there standards for those descriptions? I don't know what
> >> "jumbo" means but it seems to imply large-sized but it may not
> >> have a legal definition. However, much the best way to buy
> >> shrimp is to patronize stores that give the average number per
> >> pound. Whole Foods, Giant and Balducci's in my area do so.
>
> >> James Silverton
> >> Potomac, Maryland
>
> > These were prepared breaded shrimp. *Apparently the word "Jumbo"
> > refers to the breading and not to the enclosed shrimpy shrimp.
> > "Jumbo Breaded Butterfly Shrimp" may or may not have been cleared by a
> > team of lawyers. *It did not state it as "Breaded Butterfly Jumbo
> > Shrimp". *Clever, clever, clever. *If you stick a shrimp inside a loaf
> > of bread that would really be jumbo.
>
> > Alexm
>
> But how is it the grocery store's fault you didn't read/understand the
> packaging? *I'd say you were lucky they gave you a refund. *It's not as if
> the shrimp were "bad", just that you felt deceived. *Caveat emptor.
>
> Jill- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well let me put it this way: If you got this in a restaurant
(regardless of whether or not the word "jumbo" was used in the menu)
you probably would have been greatly disappointed and would never
order them again. You might even have them take it back and order
something else like an 8 oz. lobster tail where there would be no
doubt about the size. When you get what looks like a butterflied and
breaded shrimp but the shrimp itself occupies only a small fraction
of the overall size of the product (comparable to, say, a quarter coin
on an equatorial slice of an orange) then it looks pretty pitiful. I
did not feel deceived - I knew that I was deceived.
Perhaps the real problem (for me) is that I remember what quality was
like some years ago.

Alexm

Alexm > wrote:

> On Apr 16, 3:33*pm, Alexm > wrote:
>> Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
>> Butterfly Shrimp". *Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
>> The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
>> breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
>> size. *What the heck is going on in this world? *Is nothing any good
>> any more? *I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
>> them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
>> going to do.
>>
>> Alexm
>
> And I just went back to the store and got the total refund!

Must have been the corner Quickie Mart for you to make it there and
back in 30 minutes. Did they also refund your time and gas?

-sw

On Apr 16, 8:46*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> Alexm > wrote:
> > On Apr 16, 3:33*pm, Alexm > wrote:
> >> Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
> >> Butterfly Shrimp". *Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
> >> The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
> >> breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
> >> size. *What the heck is going on in this world? *Is nothing any good
> >> any more? *I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
> >> them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
> >> going to do.
>
> >> Alexm
>
> > And I just went back to the store and got the total refund!
>
> Must have been the corner Quickie Mart for you to make it there and
> back in 30 minutes. *Did they also refund your time and gas?
>
> -sw

It was a large grocery store only a few miles away. The only problem
is that the store will probably absorb the cost rather than
manufacturer SeaPak(R).. One does not worry about time, gas, etc.,
when a principle is involved.

Alexm

Alexm wrote:
>
> On Apr 16, 8:46 pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> > Alexm > wrote:
> > > On Apr 16, 3:33 pm, Alexm > wrote:
> > >> Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
> > >> Butterfly Shrimp". Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
> > >> The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
> > >> breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
> > >> size. What the heck is going on in this world? Is nothing any good
> > >> any more? I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
> > >> them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
> > >> going to do.
> >
> > >> Alexm
> >
> > > And I just went back to the store and got the total refund!
> >
> > Must have been the corner Quickie Mart for you to make it there and
> > back in 30 minutes. Did they also refund your time and gas?
> >
> > -sw
>
> It was a large grocery store only a few miles away. The only problem
> is that the store will probably absorb the cost rather than
> manufacturer SeaPak(R).. One does not worry about time, gas, etc.,
> when a principle is involved.
>
> Alexm

I'm not so sure about the grocery store absorbing the cost. Not that I
know any better, but I 'bet' the grocery store keeps tabs and deducts
the cost of the one 'unit' against its next delivery from the vendor.
Same thing goes for any other products I'd imagine. I know there are
some instances where a retail/grocery store will absorb costs, but
perhaps not when it comes to national brands and the like (?).

Sky, who knows nearly nothing about merchandizing.

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:52:05 -0500, Sky >
wrote:

>Not that I
>know any better, but I 'bet' the grocery store keeps tabs and deducts
>the cost of the one 'unit' against its next delivery from the vendor.
>Same thing goes for any other products I'd imagine.

Grocery "chains" refund on single items, and then discard. A truck
load of milk on the other hand is another story.

Sky > wrote:

> Alexm wrote:
>>
>>> > And I just went back to the store and got the total refund!
>>>
>>> Must have been the corner Quickie Mart for you to make it there and
>>> back in 30 minutes. Did they also refund your time and gas?
>>
>> It was a large grocery store only a few miles away. The only problem
>> is that the store will probably absorb the cost rather than
>> manufacturer SeaPak(R).. One does not worry about time, gas, etc.,
>> when a principle is involved.
>
> I'm not so sure about the grocery store absorbing the cost. Not that I
> know any better, but I 'bet' the grocery store keeps tabs and deducts
> the cost of the one 'unit' against its next delivery from the vendor.
> Same thing goes for any other products I'd imagine. I know there are
> some instances where a retail/grocery store will absorb costs, but
> perhaps not when it comes to national brands and the like (?).
>
> Sky, who knows nearly nothing about merchandizing.

Grocery stores charge-back to the distributor who supplies thousands
of these refrigerated/frozen (in this case) products to the stores.

The chargeback will come from the distributor as a credit. They
don't even have to show evidence of returns except as return
receipts.

The distributor only knows that so much crap was returned from one
manufacturer. Eventually they'll dump the manufacturer as a client.

Unless they pay them for shelf space and other marketing (and eating
returns).

-sw

"Alexm" > wrote in message
...
> Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
> Butterfly Shrimp". Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
> The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
> breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
> size. What the heck is going on in this world? Is nothing any good
> any more? I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
> them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
> going to do.
>
> Alexm


Below are the generally accepted guide lines. Based upon that you should
have had from 6 to 8 shrimp. How many were there?

Dimitri


http://www.epicurious.com/tools/food...=16&submit.y=7

Keeping that variance in mind, the general size categories into which shrimp
fall a colossal (10 or less per pound), jumbo (11-15), extra-large
(16-20), large (21-30), medium (31-35), small (36-45) and miniature (about
100). In the United States, jumbo and colossal shrimp are commonly called
"prawns," though the PRAWN is, in fact, a different species.

On Apr 16, 4:33�pm, Alexm > wrote:
> Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
> Butterfly Shrimp". �Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
> The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
> breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
> size. �What the heck is going on in this world? �Is nothing any good
> any more? �I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
> them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
> going to do.

The only accurate way to size shrimp is by "count" per weight.

When shrimp are breaded there is no way to determine size... all you
can do is buy a package of breaded shrimp by weight, which includes
the shrimp plus the breading.... similarly shimp size cannot be
determined for cooked shrimp, size can only be determined for raw in
the shell shrimp.

http://www.oceangarden.com/eng/shrimp/sizing.htm

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:15:21 -0700 (PDT), Sheldon >
wrote:

>On Apr 16, 4:33?pm, Alexm > wrote:
>
>When shrimp are breaded there is no way to determine size... all you
>can do is buy a package of breaded shrimp by weight, which includes
>the shrimp plus the breading.... similarly shimp size cannot be
>determined for cooked shrimp, size can only be determined for raw in
>the shell shrimp.
>
>http://www.oceangarden.com/eng/shrimp/sizing.htm
>
I have a freind who used to be a shrimp farmer. He told me that those
tiny shrimp you get in junky shrimp salads? Those are the floaters.
They died and floated to the top of the tank and are sort of fresh but
dead, so I now avoid all tiny shrimp. Rather have them fresh frozen
than floaters who later becaome frozen.

aloha,
beans
roast beans to kona to email
farmers of Pure Kona

On Apr 16, 7:45*pm, wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:15:21 -0700 (PDT), Sheldon >
> wrote:
>
> >On Apr 16, 4:33?pm, Alexm > wrote:
>
> >When shrimp are breaded there is no way to determine size... all you
> >can do is buy a package of breaded shrimp by weight, which includes
> >the shrimp plus the breading.... similarly shimp size cannot be
> >determined for cooked shrimp, size can only be determined for raw in
> >the shell shrimp.
>
> >http://www.oceangarden.com/eng/shrimp/sizing.htm
>
> I have a freind who used to be a shrimp farmer. *He told me that those
> tiny shrimp you get in junky shrimp salads? *Those are the floaters.
> They died and floated to the top of the tank and are sort of fresh but
> dead, so I now avoid all tiny shrimp. *Rather have them fresh frozen
> than floaters who later becaome frozen.
>
> aloha,
> beans
> roast beans to kona to email
> * farmers of Pure Kona

The tiny "salad shrimp". as they a called, remind me of little
worms. I good salad should have LARGE shrimp.

Alenm

Alexm wrote:

>
> The tiny "salad shrimp". as they a called, remind me of little
> worms. I good salad should have LARGE shrimp.

I lady I met last week told me a funny story about shrimp. She had lived in
Zambia for a while and one of the domestic workers pointed out a cluster of
caterpillars in a tree. and told her that they are waiting for them to get
bigger and then they will gather than and eat them, claiming they are
delicious. When harvest day came along he scooted up the tree with a pail
and gathered up all the creepy crawlies and took them to his wife to prepare
them. Then he came back with a plateful for her. She made up an excuse
about realizing how much he treasured this delicacy and they were hardly
enough for his own family.

The next week, the guy was helping out in the kitchen as they were preparing
for a cocktail party. She showed him how she wanted the cocktail shrimp
arranged on the canapés. The guy was absolutely grossed out that they would
eat something as disgusting looking as a shrimp.

On Apr 16, 9:04*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> Alexm wrote:
>
> > The tiny "salad shrimp". as they a called, *remind me of little
> > worms. *I good salad should have LARGE shrimp.
>
> I lady I met last week told me a funny story about shrimp. She had lived in
> Zambia for a while and one of the domestic workers pointed out a cluster of
> caterpillars in a tree. and told her that they are waiting for them to get
> bigger and then they will gather than and eat them, claiming they are
> delicious. When harvest day came along he scooted up the tree with a pail
> and gathered up all the creepy crawlies and took them to his wife to prepare
> them. Then he came back with a plateful for her. *She made up an excuse
> about *realizing how much he treasured this delicacy and they were hardly
> enough for his own family.
>
> The next week, the guy was helping out in the kitchen as they were preparing
> for a cocktail party. *She showed him how she wanted the cocktail shrimp
> arranged on the canapés. The guy was absolutely grossed out that they would
> eat something as disgusting looking as a shrimp.

Yes, very true. It depends on what you are brought up on to a large
extent. When I was a child I was fed raw live oysters and also raw
live little neck clams on the half shell. But never squid. And never
mussels - which were looked down upon as being inferior.

Alexm

wrote:
>
> I have a freind who used to be a shrimp farmer. He told me that those
> tiny shrimp you get in junky shrimp salads? Those are the floaters.
> They died and floated to the top of the tank and are sort of fresh but
> dead, so I now avoid all tiny shrimp. Rather have them fresh frozen
> than floaters who later becaome frozen.

I've seen salad shrimp being removed from a large frozen can
(yes, some canned food is frozen, presumably because it was
never sterilized) which was clearly marked as coming from
Alaska. I don't believe they farm shrimp in Alaska.

However that was maybe 20 years ago. As I understand it,
the Alaskan shrimp fishery has since collapsed.

On 2008-04-17, Mark Thorson > wrote:


> I've seen salad shrimp being removed from a large frozen can
> (yes, some canned food is frozen, presumably because it was
> never sterilized)

To paraphrase Einstein:

Two things are infinite: The universe and your stupidity; and I could be
wrong about the universe.

nb

On Apr 17, 8:20*am, notbob > wrote:
> On 2008-04-17, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>
> > I've seen salad shrimp being removed from a large frozen can
> > (yes, some canned food is frozen, presumably because it was
> > never sterilized)
>
> To paraphrase Einstein:
>
> Two things are infinite: *The universe and your stupidity; and I could be
> wrong about the universe.
>
> nb

Please, we are talking about shrimp - nothing as profound as the
universe.

Alexm

notbob wrote:
>
> On 2008-04-17, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>
> > I've seen salad shrimp being removed from a large frozen can
> > (yes, some canned food is frozen, presumably because it was
> > never sterilized)
>
> To paraphrase Einstein:
>
> Two things are infinite: The universe and your stupidity; and I could be
> wrong about the universe.

You seem not to comprehend that canning is sometimes
used only as a container, not a sterile environment.
For example, peanuts, which are often canned without
being retorted. And a very high volume of other
stuff sold in cans without being sterilized.

I have indeed seen small salad shrimp being taken
from a refrigerated or frozen can, clearly marked
as being from Alaska. Having bought some of these
shrimp and eaten them, I can assure you that they
were not cooked to death like any canned shrimp
that was retorted to sterility.

On Apr 16, 7:33*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> [snip] *I don't believe they farm shrimp in Alaska.
>
> However that was maybe 20 years ago. *As I understand it,
> the Alaskan shrimp fishery has since collapsed.

There was a shrimp fishery in Alaska that went from Southeast Alaska
all the way up the coast to Kodiak and out the Aleutian Islands. For
reasons mostly not related to commercial fishing, most of it declined
severely and collapsed in the late 70s to early 80s. Nowadays, spot
shrimp are still fished (with pots) in Southeast Alaska, the take
being capped at around 800,000 pounds. They are available fresh in
local markets in SE towns and you can still go down to the docks and
buy them from the shrimpers. Utterly delicious. -aem

> wrote
> I have a freind who used to be a shrimp farmer. He told me that those
> tiny shrimp you get in junky shrimp salads? Those are the floaters.
> They died and floated to the top of the tank

eyyuuuuuuu! I dont eat these, anyway. They always tasted weird when I did.
Now I know why.

I love ice cold steamed shrimp, peeled, with fresh coctail sauce. To me they
are better this way than any other way. (Though I love shrimp egg foo yung,
too.)

On Apr 16, 6:15Â*pm, Sheldon > wrote:
> On Apr 16, 4:33�pm, Alexm > wrote:
>
> > Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
> > Butterfly Shrimp". �Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
> > The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
> > breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
> > size. �What the heck is going on in this world? �Is nothing any good
> > any more? �I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
> > them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
> > going to do.
>
> The only accurate way to size shrimp is by "count" per weight.
>
> When shrimp are breaded there is no way to determine size... all you
> can do is buy a package of breaded shrimp by weight, which includes
> the shrimp plus the breading.... similarly shimp size cannot be
> determined for cooked shrimp, size can only be determined for raw in
> the shell shrimp.
>
> http://www.oceangarden.com/eng/shrimp/sizing.htm

Well, I would say without any doubt whatsoever that when the package
says JUMBO then I should expect something I can sink my teeth into.
Instead I get breaded shrimp which appear large, because of the way
the breading is formed, but contain shrimp no bigger than the last
part of my little finger. When I fill my gas tank with 18 gallons of
gasoline and later find out I got only 18 pints then without any doubt
whatsoever I would say I was hoodwinked. It is just that simple. Even
if the package did not say JUMBO the actual shrimp were so small as to
be very very disappointing. It is a fair product if you like breading
but a very inferior product relative to quantity if you like shrimp.

Alexm

On Apr 16, 9:43Â*pm, Alexm > wrote:
> On Apr 16, 6:15Â*pm, Sheldon > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 16, 4:33�pm, Alexm > wrote:
>
> > > Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
> > > Butterfly Shrimp". �Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
> > > The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
> > > breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
> > > size. �What the heck is going on in this world? �Is nothing any good
> > > any more? �I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
> > > them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
> > > going to do.
>
> > The only accurate way to size shrimp is by "count" per weight.
>
> > When shrimp are breaded there is no way to determine size... all you
> > can do is buy a package of breaded shrimp by weight, which includes
> > the shrimp plus the breading.... similarly shimp size cannot be
> > determined for cooked shrimp, size can only be determined for raw in
> > the shell shrimp.
>
> >http://www.oceangarden.com/eng/shrimp/sizing.htm
>
> Well, I would say without any doubt whatsoever that when the package
> says JUMBO then I should expect something I can sink my teeth into.
> Instead I get breaded shrimp which appear large, because of the way
> the breading is formed, but contain shrimp no bigger than the last
> part of my little finger. Â*When I fill my gas tank with 18 gallons of
> gasoline and later find out I got only 18 pints then without any doubt
> whatsoever I would say I was hoodwinked. Â*It is just that simple. Even
> if the package did not say JUMBO the actual shrimp were so small as to
> be very very disappointing. It is a fair product if you like breading
> but a very inferior product relative to quantity if you like shrimp.


Your gas analogy is dumb... you didn't buy breaded gas.

You didn't buy jumbo shrimp... you bought jumbo *BREADED* shrimp...
and that's exactly what you got, shrimp with jumbo breading.
Hopefully you learned an important lesson, you'll never again buy
breaded shrimp... in fact it's stupid to bread jumbo shrimp...
breading is exactly how commercial establishments make teensy shrimp
look much larger. Breading expensive jumbo shrimp is as idiotic as
breading porterhouse steak... save your bread crumbs for stretching
ground round meat balls. Any time you oder breaded shimp at a
restaurant be assued taht you will receive more brading than shrimp,
in fact many restaurants use small shrimp and slice them in half
before breading... go know.

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:33:54 -0700 (PDT), Alexm >
wrote:

>Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
>Butterfly Shrimp". Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
>The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
>breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
>size. What the heck is going on in this world? Is nothing any good
>any more? I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
>them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
>going to do.
>
>Alexm

Anyone who purchases such a product deserves any disappointment they
get. Did you think there were going to be 2 dozen 12 count shrimp in
that tiny little 9 oz. box? Taking it back proves you're either a
total idiot, or a troll. Maybe both.

Lou

On Apr 17, 10:40*am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:33:54 -0700 (PDT), Alexm >
> wrote:
>
> >Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
> >Butterfly Shrimp". *Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
> >The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
> >breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
> >size. *What the heck is going on in this world? *Is nothing any good
> >any more? *I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
> >them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
> >going to do.
>
> >Alexm
>
> Anyone who purchases such a product deserves any disappointment they
> get. *Did you think there were going to be 2 dozen 12 count shrimp in
> that tiny little 9 oz. box? *Taking it back proves you're either a
> total idiot, or a troll. *Maybe both.
>
> Lou

You don't get it. It has nothing to do with the number of shrimp. It
has everything to do with the size of the shrimp in each breaded
shrimp (i.e., the amount of shrimp compared to the amount of breading
and the size of the shrimp compared to the size of the breading).
Another way of putting it: Suppose you ordered a hot dog in a bun - a
hot dog bun of usual size- and when you got it you found that the hot
dog inside the bun was only about as large as you little finger. Get
the picture? Or do you need a 100 page dissertation. The product was
no good. Anyone with a minimum of intelligence would return the
product and get a refund.

Alexm

On May 9, 12:51�am, Alexm > wrote:
> On Apr 17, 10:40�am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:33:54 -0700 (PDT), Alexm >
> > wrote:
>
> > >Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
> > >Butterfly Shrimp". �Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
> > >The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
> > >breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
> > >size. �What the heck is going on in this world? �Is nothing any good
> > >any more? �I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
> > >them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
> > >going to do.
>
> > >Alexm
>
> > Anyone who purchases such a product deserves any disappointment they
> > get. �Did you think there were going to be 2 dozen 12 count shrimp in
> > that tiny little 9 oz. box? �Taking it back proves you're either a
> > total idiot, or a troll. �Maybe both.
>
> > Lou
>
> You don't get it. �It has nothing to do with the number of shrimp. �It
> has everything to do with the size of the shrimp in each breaded
> shrimp (i.e., the amount of shrimp compared to the amount of breading


You don't get it... when you buy "Jumbo Breaded Shrimp" you are buying
shrimp with jumbo breading. If you want breaded jumbo shrimp then buy
"Breaded Jumbo Shrimp", You did not get ripped off, you got exactly
what you paid for. If you feel ripped off that's entirely your own
fault... because you can't read... advertising agents pander to
functionally illiterate dumb douchebags like you.

Sheldon wrote:
> On May 9, 12:51�am, Alexm > wrote:
>> On Apr 17, 10:40�am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:33:54 -0700 (PDT), Alexm >
>>> wrote:
>>>> Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
>>>> Butterfly Shrimp". �Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
>>>> The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
>>>> breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
>>>> size. �What the heck is going on in this world? �Is nothing any good
>>>> any more? �I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
>>>> them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
>>>> going to do.
>>>> Alexm
>>> Anyone who purchases such a product deserves any disappointment they
>>> get. �Did you think there were going to be 2 dozen 12 count shrimp in
>>> that tiny little 9 oz. box? �Taking it back proves you're either a
>>> total idiot, or a troll. �Maybe both.
>>> Lou
>> You don't get it. �It has nothing to do with the number of shrimp. �It
>> has everything to do with the size of the shrimp in each breaded
>> shrimp (i.e., the amount of shrimp compared to the amount of breading
>
>
> You don't get it... when you buy "Jumbo Breaded Shrimp" you are buying
> shrimp with jumbo breading. If you want breaded jumbo shrimp then buy
> "Breaded Jumbo Shrimp", You did not get ripped off, you got exactly
> what you paid for. If you feel ripped off that's entirely your own
> fault... because you can't read... advertising agents pander to
> functionally illiterate dumb douchebags like you.
>
>

Your responses are amazing. You find a way to trash everyone yet you're
an old, perpetually single "man" with SIX CATS!

On May 9, 6:56Â*pm, DK > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > On May 9, 12:51�am, Alexm > wrote:
> >> On Apr 17, 10:40�am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
> >>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:33:54 -0700 (PDT), Alexm >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
> >>>> Butterfly Shrimp". �Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
> >>>> The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
> >>>> breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
> >>>> size. �What the heck is going on in this world? �Is nothing any good
> >>>> any more? �I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
> >>>> them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
> >>>> going to do.
> >>>> Alexm
> >>> Anyone who purchases such a product deserves any disappointment they
> >>> get. �Did you think there were going to be 2 dozen 12 count shrimp in
> >>> that tiny little 9 oz. box? �Taking it back proves you're either a
> >>> total idiot, or a troll. �Maybe both.
> >>> Lou
> >> You don't get it. �It has nothing to do with the number of shrimp. �It
> >> has everything to do with the size of the shrimp in each breaded
> >> shrimp (i.e., the amount of shrimp compared to the amount of breading
>
> > You don't get it... when you buy "Jumbo Breaded Shrimp" you are buying
> > shrimp with jumbo breading. Â*If you want breaded jumbo shrimp then buy
> > "Breaded Jumbo Shrimp", Â*You did not get ripped off, you got exactly
> > what you paid for. Â*If you feel ripped off that's entirely your own
> > fault... because you can't read... advertising agents pander to
> > functionally illiterate dumb douchebags like you.
>
> Your responses are amazing. Â*You find a way to trash everyone yet you're
> an old, perpetually single "man" with SIX CATS!

And you know all this about me how, you are clairvoyant?

But everyone here knows you have a pinhead IQ... a brine shrimp has a
higher IQ than you... only a dumb douchebag buys frozen breaded shrimp
and expects gourmet.

On May 9, 8:57Â*am, Sheldon > wrote:
> On May 9, 12:51�am, Alexm > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 17, 10:40�am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
> > > On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:33:54 -0700 (PDT), Alexm >
> > > wrote:
>
> > > >Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
> > > >Butterfly Shrimp". �Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
> > > >The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
> > > >breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
> > > >size. �What the heck is going on in this world? �Is nothing any good
> > > >any more? �I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
> > > >them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
> > > >going to do.
>
> > > >Alexm
>
> > > Anyone who purchases such a product deserves any disappointment they
> > > get. �Did you think there were going to be 2 dozen 12 count shrimp in
> > > that tiny little 9 oz. box? �Taking it back proves you're either a
> > > total idiot, or a troll. �Maybe both.
>
> > > Lou
>
> > You don't get it. �It has nothing to do with the number of shrimp. �It
> > has everything to do with the size of the shrimp in each breaded
> > shrimp (i.e., the amount of shrimp compared to the amount of breading
>
> You don't get it... when you buy "Jumbo Breaded Shrimp" you are buying
> shrimp with jumbo breading. Â*If you want breaded jumbo shrimp then buy
> "Breaded Jumbo Shrimp", Â*You did not get ripped off, you got exactly
> what you paid for. Â*If you feel ripped off that's entirely your own
> fault... because you can't read... advertising agents pander to
> functionally illiterate dumb douchebags like you.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The company that produced this product is, in my opinion, a ripper-
offer. Period.

Alexm

AlexDunce sputtered:
> On May 9, 8:57Â*am, Sheldon > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 9, 12:51�am, Alexm > wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 17, 10:40�am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
> > > > On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:33:54 -0700 (PDT), Alexm >
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > >Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
> > > > >Butterfly Shrimp". �Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
> > > > >The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
> > > > >breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
> > > > >size. �What the heck is going on in this world? �Is nothing any good
> > > > >any more? �I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
> > > > >them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
> > > > >going to do.
>
> > > > >Alexm
>
> > > > Anyone who purchases such a product deserves any disappointment they
> > > > get. �Did you think there were going to be 2 dozen 12 count shrimp in
> > > > that tiny little 9 oz. box? �Taking it back proves you're either a
> > > > total idiot, or a troll. �Maybe both.
>
> > > > Lou
>
> > > You don't get it. �It has nothing to do with the number of shrimp. �It
> > > has everything to do with the size of the shrimp in each breaded
> > > shrimp (i.e., the amount of shrimp compared to the amount of breading
>
> > You don't get it... when you buy "Jumbo Breaded Shrimp" you are buying
> > shrimp with jumbo breading. Â*If you want breaded jumbo shrimp then buy
> > "Breaded Jumbo Shrimp", Â*You did not get ripped off, you got exactly
> > what you paid for. Â*If you feel ripped off that's entirely your own
> > fault... because you can't read... advertising agents pander to
> > functionally illiterate dumb douchebags like you.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> The company that produced this product is, in my opinion, a ripper-
> offer.

The only reason to bread any food is as a way to sell stale bread
(that otherwise would go in the compost heap) and to make it appear
larger... KFC got rich selling small chickens with enough breading to
make them appear like you're getting a bargain when in fact it's all
an illusion... when you buy KFC you are mostly getting a bucketful of
greasy crumbs and a bucket. Breaded shimp is an illusion... and that
you are a fool is a fact... next time you buy KFC save that bucket,
put it over your head so no one can see your imbecile headed point.

On Sat, 10 May 2008 21:57:10 -0700 (PDT), Alexm >
wrote:

>The company that produced this product is, in my opinion, a ripper-
>offer. Period.

Lesson learned, I hope. It's a newbie mistake you won't make again.

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On May 9, 8:57Â*am, Sheldon > wrote:
> On May 9, 12:51�am, Alexm > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 17, 10:40�am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
> > > On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:33:54 -0700 (PDT), Alexm >
> > > wrote:
>
> > > >Today I purchased a package (9 oz.) of frozen SeaPak(R) "Jumbo Breaded
> > > >Butterfly Shrimp". �Well, the shrimp were noways near jumbo in size.
> > > >The breading is spread out to make them look large but, when the
> > > >breading comes off, the shrimp look very much less than medium in
> > > >size. �What the heck is going on in this world? �Is nothing any good
> > > >any more? �I would suggest that anyone who buys such products take
> > > >them back to the store and get a full refund - which is what I am
> > > >going to do.
>
> > > >Alexm
>
> > > Anyone who purchases such a product deserves any disappointment they
> > > get. �Did you think there were going to be 2 dozen 12 count shrimp in
> > > that tiny little 9 oz. box? �Taking it back proves you're either a
> > > total idiot, or a troll. �Maybe both.
>
> > > Lou
>
> > You don't get it. �It has nothing to do with the number of shrimp. �It
> > has everything to do with the size of the shrimp in each breaded
> > shrimp (i.e., the amount of shrimp compared to the amount of breading
>
> You don't get it... when you buy "Jumbo Breaded Shrimp" you are buying
> shrimp with jumbo breading. Â*If you want breaded jumbo shrimp then buy
> "Breaded Jumbo Shrimp", Â*You did not get ripped off, you got exactly
> what you paid for. Â*If you feel ripped off that's entirely your own
> fault... because you can't read... advertising agents pander to
> functionally illiterate dumb douchebags like you.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well now we know that these breaded shrimp are terrible! And,
according to you, American consumers are "functionally illiterate dumb
douchebags". One does not fail to notice here a remarkable distain
for the consumer and absolutely no invective against the
manufacturer. Do you work for the company?

Alexm