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Anyone else think this price is ridiculous?
http://www.chefscatalog.com/store/ca...rod3810076&cmC at=search&_requestid=4275 Granted, I can't make puff pastry look like a fish, but puleeeze Jill |
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jmcquown > wrote:
> Anyone else think this price is ridiculous? > > http://www.chefscatalog.com/store/ca...rod3810076&cmC > at=search&_requestid=4275 > > Granted, I can't make puff pastry look like a fish, but puleeeze A hundred bucks!? Yeah, little outrageous. And no guarantee on taste (er...in the mouth.). -- 'Tis Herself |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:47:52 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote: >Anyone else think this price is ridiculous? > >http://www.chefscatalog.com/store/ca...rod3810076&cmC >at=search&_requestid=4275 > >Granted, I can't make puff pastry look like a fish, but puleeeze Yes, it is pretty pricey. However, don't sell yourself short. Dear Julia has shown how to combine puff pastry and fish in a fish-shaped thing. I don't believe she mentioned a seafood mousseline filling, but it only took 30 mintues (TV time) :-) |
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Frogleg wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:47:52 -0500, "jmcquown" > > wrote: > >> Anyone else think this price is ridiculous? >> >> http://www.chefscatalog.com/store/ca...rod3810076&cmC >> at=search&_requestid=4275 >> >> Granted, I can't make puff pastry look like a fish, but puleeeze > > Yes, it is pretty pricey. However, don't sell yourself short. Dear > Julia has shown how to combine puff pastry and fish in a fish-shaped > thing. I don't believe she mentioned a seafood mousseline filling, but > it only took 30 mintues (TV time) :-) Uh huh, and how many "takes" over 2 hours? I think I actually have a fish-shaped copper (jello) mold someplace in one of my boxes... that would make it easier, wouldn't it? <G> Jill |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
. .. > Anyone else think this price is ridiculous? > > http://www.chefscatalog.com/store/ca...rod3810076&cmC > at=search&_requestid=4275 > > Granted, I can't make puff pastry look like a fish, but puleeeze I got a Chef's catalog the other day, and I thought just about all the foods they presented were way overpriced. I can get good chicken enchiladas locally for a lot less than $70 for 24. And $40 for 2 quarts of tortilla soup? The gourmet biscuits may be delicious, but $45 for 2 dozen? (Plus $13.50 for shipping!) There are a lot of comapnies offering pre-made entrees and sides for large sums of money, so there must be a market. Anny |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 06:44:31 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote: >Frogleg wrote: >> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:47:52 -0500, "jmcquown" >> > wrote: >>> Granted, I can't make puff pastry look like a fish, but puleeeze >> >> Yes, it is pretty pricey. However, don't sell yourself short. Dear >> Julia has shown how to combine puff pastry and fish in a fish-shaped >> thing. I don't believe she mentioned a seafood mousseline filling, but >> it only took 30 mintues (TV time) :-) > >Uh huh, and how many "takes" over 2 hours? I think I actually have a >fish-shaped copper (jello) mold someplace in one of my boxes... that would >make it easier, wouldn't it? <G> No, Jill. I don't think a fish mold is the answer. You got y'r fish and y'r puff pastry (from the freezer case, unless you're over-supplied with spare time and butter). Fish doesn't have to be (or even *should* be) a fish-shaped critter. Doesn't even have to be *fish*, for that matter -- could be a flatish meatloaf. One rectangle of puff pastry; one layer of fish thing (or meatloaf). Another rectangle of puff pastry to cover. The usual "brush edges with egg wash to stick together." Carve a fish shape -- shallow empty tail; blunt head. Carve shallow cuts for "scales". Use puff pastry scraps for a fin or 2. Indent an eye. Carve a smile. Bake. Cute as can be. |
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Frogleg wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 06:44:31 -0500, "jmcquown" > > wrote: > >> Frogleg wrote: >>> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:47:52 -0500, "jmcquown" >>> > wrote: >>>> Granted, I can't make puff pastry look like a fish, but puleeeze >>> >>> Yes, it is pretty pricey. However, don't sell yourself short. Dear >>> Julia has shown how to combine puff pastry and fish in a fish-shaped >>> thing. I don't believe she mentioned a seafood mousseline filling, >>> but it only took 30 mintues (TV time) :-) >> >> Uh huh, and how many "takes" over 2 hours? I think I actually have a >> fish-shaped copper (jello) mold someplace in one of my boxes... that >> would make it easier, wouldn't it? <G> > > No, Jill. I don't think a fish mold is the answer. You got y'r fish > and y'r puff pastry (from the freezer case, unless you're > over-supplied with spare time and butter). Fish doesn't have to be (or even *should* be) a fish-shaped critter. Doesn't even have to be > *fish*, for that matter -- could be a flatish meatloaf. One rectangle > of puff pastry; one layer of fish thing (or meatloaf). Another > rectangle of puff pastry to cover. The usual "brush edges with egg > wash to stick together." Carve a fish shape -- shallow empty tail; > blunt head. Carve shallow cuts for "scales". Use puff pastry scraps > for a fin or 2. Indent an eye. Carve a smile. Bake. Cute as can be. I can handle crab cakes, they are round. I could even handle Beef Wellington, whether it be a whole beef filet or individual ones. Fish shaped puff pastry I shall pass on, thanks Jill |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:30:07 GMT, "Anny Middon"
> wrote: >I got a Chef's catalog the other day, and I thought just about all the foods >they presented were way overpriced. I can get good chicken enchiladas >locally for a lot less than $70 for 24. And $40 for 2 quarts of tortilla >soup? The gourmet biscuits may be delicious, but $45 for 2 dozen? (Plus >$13.50 for shipping!) > >There are a lot of comapnies offering pre-made entrees and sides for large >sums of money, so there must be a market. Precisely. If you have money and not time, expertise, or interest, you can probably put together a pretty nice buffet with mail-order or catered foods. A bunch of biscuits, delivered, has overhead costs of certified kitchen, packaging, and shipping, AND profit in addition to ingredients. I can make cheese biscuits with a 33-cent biscuit mix, an ounce of grated cheese, a little garlic powder, 2 minutes of prep and 8 minutes for baking. If I had a lot of money and a lot of guests coming, I might opt for a caterer or mail order sources instead of clever kitchen work for a couple of weeks. "What the traffic will bear" is not an unreasonable principle. Ooh. I see those biscuits. Who on earth...? But evidently some people *will* order 'em. Of course, they *are* "packed by hand." :-) |
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jmcquown wrote:
> Anyone else think this price is ridiculous? > > http://www.chefscatalog.com/store/ca...rod3810076&cmC > at=search&_requestid=4275 > > Granted, I can't make puff pastry look like a fish, but puleeeze The price is high. I'd have charged that much in my restaurants or country clubs. Two things: 1) this fish is made of brioche, not puff pastry, and 2) you certainly can make a fish puff pastry. Wrap the fish in bread dough of any kind and you'll get near this one. As for making one from puff pastry, it's a snap. Frozen puff pastry sheets, fish filet (or two), seasonings (and/or a mousseline), egg. Lay down a sheet of thawed puff pastry. Brush it all over with egg. Lay the filet on it (I always do it diagonally so I can trim it to look more like a fish), top it with mousseline or just season it, top with second filet if using. Lay out another sheet of puff pastry and brush it with egg. Lay it egg side down on the fish to cover it such that there's at least an inch of overlap all the way around (TIP: you might want to gently roll the top layer of puff paste out a bit to make it larger to be able to cover the mound of fish before egging it.). Press the edges all the way around to seal. It won't look like the one in the picture. It'll have seams at the edges unlike the one wrapped in brioche. With a very sharp knife or pizza cutter, cut the outline of a fish out of the pastry making sure to keep at least 1/2 inch away from fish filets. Use trimmings to add eyes, fins and gills. Press lines into fins and tail. You goddit. Pastorio |
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Bob Pastorio wrote:
> jmcquown wrote: > >> Anyone else think this price is ridiculous? >> >> http://www.chefscatalog.com/store/ca...rod3810076&cmC >> at=search&_requestid=4275 >> >> Granted, I can't make puff pastry look like a fish, but puleeeze > > The price is high. I'd have charged that much in my restaurants or > country clubs. > > Two things: > 1) this fish is made of brioche, not puff pastry, and > 2) you certainly can make a fish puff pastry. > I'd rather not > Pastorio Jill |
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