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cybercat 05-02-2008 12:07 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
Here in Raleigh we are under severe water restrictions, and are being asked
to use disposable plates and utensils, take one-minute showers (!), and not
flush the toilets often (ugh).

I still use too much water due to cleaning pots and pans. ( I do not cook in
the microwave, and I am not about to start.)

One thing I found that helps save water while cleaning the kitchen and
baths--Clorox Cean Wipes, the kind without bleach. They are lemon-scented
and disinfecting. They do a really nice job on my glasstop range, half the
time I can get away without using Softscrub.



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Little Malice[_4_] 05-02-2008 12:24 AM

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One time on Usenet, "cybercat" > said:
> Here in Raleigh we are under severe water restrictions, and are being asked
> to use disposable plates and utensils, take one-minute showers (!), and not
> flush the toilets often (ugh).
>
> I still use too much water due to cleaning pots and pans. ( I do not cook in
> the microwave, and I am not about to start.)
>
> One thing I found that helps save water while cleaning the kitchen and
> baths--Clorox Cean Wipes, the kind without bleach. They are lemon-scented
> and disinfecting. They do a really nice job on my glasstop range, half the
> time I can get away without using Softscrub.


Wow. I empathize, I really do. But it's so strange to think about
being that short of water, given that it rains here nearly every
day...

--
Jani in WA

Pete C. 05-02-2008 12:47 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
cybercat wrote:
>
> Here in Raleigh we are under severe water restrictions, and are being asked
> to use disposable plates and utensils, take one-minute showers (!), and not
> flush the toilets often (ugh).
>
> I still use too much water due to cleaning pots and pans. ( I do not cook in
> the microwave, and I am not about to start.)
>
> One thing I found that helps save water while cleaning the kitchen and
> baths--Clorox Cean Wipes, the kind without bleach. They are lemon-scented
> and disinfecting. They do a really nice job on my glasstop range, half the
> time I can get away without using Softscrub.
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


Dishwashers typically use less water than hand washing. Cook larger
batches and portion and freeze for later use, and have less pot and pan
washing so you can take longer showers.

Dave Smith[_1_] 05-02-2008 12:48 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
Little Malice wrote:

> One time on Usenet, "cybercat" > said:
> > Here in Raleigh we are under severe water restrictions, and are being asked
> > to use disposable plates and utensils, take one-minute showers (!), and not
> > flush the toilets often (ugh).

>


If you lived in the country and had a well that was running low or a cistern and
have to have water trucked in you would learn the mantra " If it's yellow let it
mellow. If it's brown flush it down" .

>
> Wow. I empathize, I really do. But it's so strange to think about
> being that short of water, given that it rains here nearly every
> day...


Last year I had to start buying water in early May, right through to December, so
we were conserving water as much as possible all that time. When I was out cycling
I would see people in town watering their lawns. :-(



Myrl Jeffcoat 05-02-2008 01:12 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
On Feb 4, 4:07*pm, "cybercat" > wrote:
> Here in Raleigh we are under severe water restrictions, and are being asked
> to use disposable plates and utensils, take one-minute showers (!), and not
> flush the toilets often (ugh).
>
> I still use too much water due to cleaning pots and pans. ( I do not cook in
> the microwave, and I am not about to start.)
>
> One thing I found that helps save water while cleaning the kitchen and
> baths--Clorox Cean Wipes, the kind without bleach. They are lemon-scented
> and disinfecting. They do a really nice job on my glasstop range, half the
> time I can get away without using Softscrub.
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com



I can certainly feel your pain. In the 1970s we had a severe drought
here in the Sacramento area. I recall using lots of paper plates back
then, and really being cognizant of any water used.

I like Pete's idea of cooking larger batches and freezing.

Myrl Jeffcoat



Becca[_2_] 05-02-2008 01:51 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
cybercat wrote:
> Here in Raleigh we are under severe water restrictions, and are being asked
> to use disposable plates and utensils, take one-minute showers (!), and not
> flush the toilets often (ugh).
>
> I still use too much water due to cleaning pots and pans. ( I do not cook in
> the microwave, and I am not about to start.)
>
> One thing I found that helps save water while cleaning the kitchen and
> baths--Clorox Cean Wipes, the kind without bleach. They are lemon-scented
> and disinfecting. They do a really nice job on my glasstop range, half the
> time I can get away without using Softscrub.


Lately, I have tried out a few of the "wipes" and I have been pleased.
What I like the most, is the Swiffer duster.

In parts of Texas and Louisiana, we alternate between droughts and
floods. Today, it was 77 degrees and sunny. This weekend was full of
Superbowl parties and Mardi Gras parades. I love spring time.

Best of luck with your drought.

Becca

Blinky the Shark 05-02-2008 01:52 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
Dave Smith wrote:

> Little Malice wrote:
>
>> One time on Usenet, "cybercat" > said:
>> > Here in Raleigh we are under severe water restrictions, and are being asked
>> > to use disposable plates and utensils, take one-minute showers (!), and not
>> > flush the toilets often (ugh).

>
> If you lived in the country and had a well that was running low or a cistern and
> have to have water trucked in you would learn the mantra " If it's yellow let it
> mellow. If it's brown flush it down" .


Yeah, right. Those little splashes of the last person's **** water on
your shins are just lovely, aren't they?


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Nancy Young 05-02-2008 02:10 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 

"Becca" > wrote

> cybercat wrote:
>> Here in Raleigh we are under severe water restrictions, and are being
>> asked to use disposable plates and utensils, take one-minute showers (!),
>> and not flush the toilets often (ugh).
>>
>> I still use too much water due to cleaning pots and pans. ( I do not cook
>> in the microwave, and I am not about to start.)
>>
>> One thing I found that helps save water while cleaning the kitchen and
>> baths--Clorox Cean Wipes, the kind without bleach. They are lemon-scented
>> and disinfecting. They do a really nice job on my glasstop range, half
>> the time I can get away without using Softscrub.

>
> Lately, I have tried out a few of the "wipes" and I have been pleased.
> What I like the most, is the Swiffer duster.


I've become a big fan of the wipes, I started using them a year
or two ago. So easy to give the bathroom and the kitchen a
quick cleaning without dragging out sprays and paper towels,
etc. They do a nice job on the remote controls, keyboard, etc.,
as well. The stovetop wipes I've mentioned before. I use the
microfiber miracle cloths for dusting. All very handy.

nancy



Nancy Young 05-02-2008 02:11 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 

"Blinky the Shark" > wrote

> Dave Smith wrote:


>> If you lived in the country and had a well that was running low or a
>> cistern and
>> have to have water trucked in you would learn the mantra " If it's yellow
>> let it
>> mellow. If it's brown flush it down" .

>
> Yeah, right. Those little splashes of the last person's **** water on
> your shins are just lovely, aren't they?


You ... splash on your legs when you pee?

nancy



T[_1_] 05-02-2008 02:22 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
In article >,
says...
> Here in Raleigh we are under severe water restrictions, and are being asked
> to use disposable plates and utensils, take one-minute showers (!), and not
> flush the toilets often (ugh).
>
> I still use too much water due to cleaning pots and pans. ( I do not cook in
> the microwave, and I am not about to start.)
>
> One thing I found that helps save water while cleaning the kitchen and
> baths--Clorox Cean Wipes, the kind without bleach. They are lemon-scented
> and disinfecting. They do a really nice job on my glasstop range, half the
> time I can get away without using Softscrub.
>
>
>
>


1 minute shower? Holy crap, I'm a guy and there's no way I could move
that fast. Granted, I can get the in-shower portion down to about 5
minutes or so but 1 is pushing it.


Dee.Dee 05-02-2008 02:33 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 

"Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message
ynet.net...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> Little Malice wrote:
>>
>>> One time on Usenet, "cybercat" > said:
>>> > Here in Raleigh we are under severe water restrictions, and are being
>>> > asked
>>> > to use disposable plates and utensils, take one-minute showers (!),
>>> > and not
>>> > flush the toilets often (ugh).

>>
>> If you lived in the country and had a well that was running low or a
>> cistern and
>> have to have water trucked in you would learn the mantra " If it's yellow
>> let it
>> mellow. If it's brown flush it down" .

>
> Yeah, right. Those little splashes of the last person's **** water on
> your shins are just lovely, aren't they?
>
>
> --
> Blinky



Interesting. That was the mantra in Marin County, CA when we bought a house
with a pool, and then discovered there was a drought; and fines, as I
recall, for using over a certain amount. In fact, DH repeated that saying
the other day in relation to something we were discussing - probably the
well going dry (here in the country).

Dee Dee



cybercat 05-02-2008 02:53 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 

"T" > wrote
> 1 minute shower? Holy crap, I'm a guy and there's no way I could move
> that fast. Granted, I can get the in-shower portion down to about 5
> minutes or so but 1 is pushing it.


I don't time myself, I just do my best. :) The mayor says you can
do it in one minute, if you wet down, turn off the water, lather up,
then rinse. Kind of takes all the pleasure out of a nice hot shower,
you know?



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cybercat 05-02-2008 02:57 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 

"Becca" > wrote
>
> Lately, I have tried out a few of the "wipes" and I have been pleased.
> What I like the most, is the Swiffer duster.


I love this! And I should have mentioned, the Swiffer wet mop requires
NO water. Thanks for reminding me. It works so well on tile, and even on
the hardwoods, because they have a pretty tough finish. (Also I run the dry
Swiffer over the hardwoods to make sure they are dry enough.)
>
> In parts of Texas and Louisiana, we alternate between droughts and floods.
> Today, it was 77 degrees and sunny. This weekend was full of Superbowl
> parties and Mardi Gras parades. I love spring time.
>


I remember that. I lived in Houston for a while. :) I LOVE Texas.

> Best of luck with your drought.
>


Thank you. It is the worst one we've had in 20 years.



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cybercat 05-02-2008 02:58 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 

"Blinky the Shark" > wrote
> Yeah, right. Those little splashes of the last person's **** water on
> your shins are just lovely, aren't they?


We each have a bathroom, and one for company, thank goodness.



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Pete C. 05-02-2008 02:59 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
cybercat wrote:
>
> "T" > wrote
> > 1 minute shower? Holy crap, I'm a guy and there's no way I could move
> > that fast. Granted, I can get the in-shower portion down to about 5
> > minutes or so but 1 is pushing it.

>
> I don't time myself, I just do my best. :) The mayor says you can
> do it in one minute, if you wet down, turn off the water, lather up,
> then rinse. Kind of takes all the pleasure out of a nice hot shower,
> you know?


That is the technique you use with the shower in a camper when you
aren't camping anywhere with hookups. When you have 36 gal of fresh
water and 18 gal gray and black water tanks to last you a week, you
learn to both conserve water and holding tank space.

Wayne Boatwright 05-02-2008 03:12 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
On Mon 04 Feb 2008 07:59:13p, Pete C. told us...

> cybercat wrote:
>>
>> "T" > wrote
>> > 1 minute shower? Holy crap, I'm a guy and there's no way I could move
>> > that fast. Granted, I can get the in-shower portion down to about 5
>> > minutes or so but 1 is pushing it.

>>
>> I don't time myself, I just do my best. :) The mayor says you can
>> do it in one minute, if you wet down, turn off the water, lather up,
>> then rinse. Kind of takes all the pleasure out of a nice hot shower,
>> you know?

>
> That is the technique you use with the shower in a camper when you
> aren't camping anywhere with hookups. When you have 36 gal of fresh
> water and 18 gal gray and black water tanks to last you a week, you
> learn to both conserve water and holding tank space.
>


One of the major reasons I wouldn't own a camper.

--
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*******************************************
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trifling investment of fact.
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cybercat 05-02-2008 03:13 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 

"Pete C." > wrote
>
> Dishwashers typically use less water than hand washing. Cook larger
> batches and portion and freeze for later use, and have less pot and pan
> washing so you can take longer showers.


Good ideas, thanks!



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cybercat 05-02-2008 03:17 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 

"Little Malice" > wrote
> Wow. I empathize, I really do. But it's so strange to think about
> being that short of water, given that it rains here nearly every
> day...
>


It really is odd. Lots of hot water has always been the basis of my
cleaning ... anything.

You know, I almost moved to the Pacific Northwest, that was
one of the choices I weighed when I left Houston in 1987. My parents
were still alive and lived closer to NC, so that nudged me in the direction
of Raleigh. It was the right decision since they were both gone withint
ten years.

I love overcast days, hate heat and strong sunlight, so
I bet I would do great there. It looks so beautiful in photos.



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Nancy Young 05-02-2008 03:32 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 

"Sqwertz" > wrote

> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:11:50 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> "Blinky the Shark" > wrote
>>
>>> Yeah, right. Those little splashes of the last person's **** water on
>>> your shins are just lovely, aren't they?

>>
>> You ... splash on your legs when you pee?

>
> Get one of those Super Power Soakers and sqwert it into a toilet
> while wearing shorts and see... feel..., what happens.


I think I'd work on my stance. Men's legs will never look the
same to me again.

nancy



Blinky the Shark 05-02-2008 03:34 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
Nancy Young wrote:


> "Blinky the Shark" > wrote
>
>> Dave Smith wrote:

>
>>> If you lived in the country and had a well that was running low or a
>>> cistern and
>>> have to have water trucked in you would learn the mantra " If it's
>>> yellow let it
>>> mellow. If it's brown flush it down" .

>>
>> Yeah, right. Those little splashes of the last person's **** water on
>> your shins are just lovely, aren't they?

>
> You ... splash on your legs when you pee?


There are the occasional drops. Not noticeable unless you're wearing
shorts or nothing or other costumes that bare your legs near the open
container that is being recommended to be left full of other people's
****.



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Blinky the Shark 05-02-2008 03:35 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
T wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
>> Here in Raleigh we are under severe water restrictions, and are being asked
>> to use disposable plates and utensils, take one-minute showers (!), and not
>> flush the toilets often (ugh).
>>
>> I still use too much water due to cleaning pots and pans. ( I do not cook in
>> the microwave, and I am not about to start.)
>>
>> One thing I found that helps save water while cleaning the kitchen and
>> baths--Clorox Cean Wipes, the kind without bleach. They are lemon-scented
>> and disinfecting. They do a really nice job on my glasstop range, half the
>> time I can get away without using Softscrub.
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
> 1 minute shower? Holy crap, I'm a guy and there's no way I could move
> that fast. Granted, I can get the in-shower portion down to about 5
> minutes or so but 1 is pushing it.


I don't think I want to be around those people. And I guess they never
shampoo, either.


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Wayne Boatwright 05-02-2008 03:41 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
On Mon 04 Feb 2008 08:32:45p, Nancy Young told us...

>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote
>
>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:11:50 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>> "Blinky the Shark" > wrote
>>>
>>>> Yeah, right. Those little splashes of the last person's **** water on
>>>> your shins are just lovely, aren't they?
>>>
>>> You ... splash on your legs when you pee?

>>
>> Get one of those Super Power Soakers and sqwert it into a toilet while
>> wearing shorts and see... feel..., what happens.

>
> I think I'd work on my stance. Men's legs will never look the
> same to me again.
>
> nancy
>
>
>


LOL! I remember years ago when NYC had a water shortage. There were signs
in every public restroom above the urinals and toilets that said not to
flush, and signs above the sinks that said 30 seconds only. I always
wondered who went in there periodically to clean everything up.

--
Wayne Boatwright

*******************************************
Date: Monday, 02(II)/04(IV)/08(MMVIII)
*******************************************
There's something fascinating about
cosmology. One gets such wholesale
returns of conjecture out of such a
trifling investment of fact.
*******************************************


hahabogus 05-02-2008 06:25 AM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
"Nancy Young" > wrote in
:

>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote
>
>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:11:50 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>> "Blinky the Shark" > wrote
>>>
>>>> Yeah, right. Those little splashes of the last person's **** water

on
>>>> your shins are just lovely, aren't they?
>>>
>>> You ... splash on your legs when you pee?

>>
>> Get one of those Super Power Soakers and sqwert it into a toilet
>> while wearing shorts and see... feel..., what happens.

>
> I think I'd work on my stance. Men's legs will never look the
> same to me again.
>
> nancy
>
>
>


Try standing farther away...say 10 feet or so, works for me.

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Pete C. 05-02-2008 01:02 PM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> On Mon 04 Feb 2008 07:59:13p, Pete C. told us...
>
> > cybercat wrote:
> >>
> >> "T" > wrote
> >> > 1 minute shower? Holy crap, I'm a guy and there's no way I could move
> >> > that fast. Granted, I can get the in-shower portion down to about 5
> >> > minutes or so but 1 is pushing it.
> >>
> >> I don't time myself, I just do my best. :) The mayor says you can
> >> do it in one minute, if you wet down, turn off the water, lather up,
> >> then rinse. Kind of takes all the pleasure out of a nice hot shower,
> >> you know?

> >
> > That is the technique you use with the shower in a camper when you
> > aren't camping anywhere with hookups. When you have 36 gal of fresh
> > water and 18 gal gray and black water tanks to last you a week, you
> > learn to both conserve water and holding tank space.
> >

>
> One of the major reasons I wouldn't own a camper.


Well, that's pretty silly. I suppose you need to stay at a hotel, which
pretty well limits you to developed areas, missing some of the best
places to visit.

Nancy Young 05-02-2008 01:23 PM

OT Drought Sufferers
 

"hahabogus" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote


>> "Sqwertz" > wrote
>>
>>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:11:50 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Blinky the Shark" > wrote
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, right. Those little splashes of the last person's **** water

> on
>>>>> your shins are just lovely, aren't they?
>>>>
>>>> You ... splash on your legs when you pee?
>>>
>>> Get one of those Super Power Soakers and sqwert it into a toilet
>>> while wearing shorts and see... feel..., what happens.

>>
>> I think I'd work on my stance. Men's legs will never look the
>> same to me again.


> Try standing farther away...say 10 feet or so, works for me.


But then, you're a special guy! (laugh)

nancy



Dave Smith[_1_] 05-02-2008 02:28 PM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
kilikini wrote:

> I hear ya. I'm in Florida and we've been in a drought for about 4 or 5
> years, now. Luckily we have city water, but my in-laws have a well. They
> swear by the "if it's yellow" method. They make notes on how many times the
> toilet has been flushed. They're on the 3 use system; it's okay to flush
> after 3 "visits". :~)


Being in the country, we have what many call "a yard bing enough to pee in" . We
don't want have enough water to flush after every pee and we don't have enough
to water the garden. You can see wherer this is going. Don't sniff the roses.


Dave Smith[_1_] 05-02-2008 02:47 PM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
T wrote:

> 1 minute shower? Holy crap, I'm a guy and there's no way I could move
> that fast. Granted, I can get the in-shower portion down to about 5
> minutes or so but 1 is pushing it.


Showers must be one place where people waste a lot of water. I usually start
laterhing up with the cold water while the whot water is coming up from the tank.
I start with the shampoo them soap of the body, extremitie and nether regions and
by the time the hot water arrives I am ready to rinse off. It rarely takes more
than a minute.


Dee.Dee 05-02-2008 03:02 PM

OT Drought Sufferers
 

"Pete C." > wrote in message
...
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> On Mon 04 Feb 2008 07:59:13p, Pete C. told us...
>>
>> > cybercat wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "T" > wrote
>> >> > 1 minute shower? Holy crap, I'm a guy and there's no way I could
>> >> > move
>> >> > that fast. Granted, I can get the in-shower portion down to about 5
>> >> > minutes or so but 1 is pushing it.
>> >>
>> >> I don't time myself, I just do my best. :) The mayor says you can
>> >> do it in one minute, if you wet down, turn off the water, lather up,
>> >> then rinse. Kind of takes all the pleasure out of a nice hot shower,
>> >> you know?
>> >
>> > That is the technique you use with the shower in a camper when you
>> > aren't camping anywhere with hookups. When you have 36 gal of fresh
>> > water and 18 gal gray and black water tanks to last you a week, you
>> > learn to both conserve water and holding tank space.
>> >

>>
>> One of the major reasons I wouldn't own a camper.

>
> Well, that's pretty silly. I suppose you need to stay at a hotel, which
> pretty well limits you to developed areas, missing some of the best
> places to visit.



We learned to take a 1 minute shower when we lived in our camper for one
year. There were not always times you wanted to hook up. DH still does it
when we feel we've used too much water in a 24 hour period.

Living together in a 21' camper for a year teaches one a lot of things,
enough for a lifetime.

Dee Dee



sf[_3_] 05-02-2008 03:04 PM

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On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 07:12:27 GMT, Long Dong Silver
> wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 06:25:38 GMT, hahabogus wrote:
>
>> Try standing farther away...say 10 feet or so, works for me.

>
>I always have to stand that far away or else it'll dangle in the
>commode.
>

http://i28.tinypic.com/29ft5vo.jpg


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Wayne Boatwright 05-02-2008 03:08 PM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
On Tue 05 Feb 2008 06:02:43a, Pete C. told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> On Mon 04 Feb 2008 07:59:13p, Pete C. told us...
>>
>> > cybercat wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "T" > wrote
>> >> > 1 minute shower? Holy crap, I'm a guy and there's no way I could

move
>> >> > that fast. Granted, I can get the in-shower portion down to about 5
>> >> > minutes or so but 1 is pushing it.
>> >>
>> >> I don't time myself, I just do my best. :) The mayor says you can
>> >> do it in one minute, if you wet down, turn off the water, lather up,
>> >> then rinse. Kind of takes all the pleasure out of a nice hot shower,
>> >> you know?
>> >
>> > That is the technique you use with the shower in a camper when you
>> > aren't camping anywhere with hookups. When you have 36 gal of fresh
>> > water and 18 gal gray and black water tanks to last you a week, you
>> > learn to both conserve water and holding tank space.
>> >

>>
>> One of the major reasons I wouldn't own a camper.

>
> Well, that's pretty silly. I suppose you need to stay at a hotel, which
> pretty well limits you to developed areas, missing some of the best
> places to visit.
>


It really depends on what you want to see.

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sf[_3_] 05-02-2008 03:09 PM

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On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:02:43 GMT, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>Well, that's pretty silly. I suppose you need to stay at a hotel, which
>pretty well limits you to developed areas, missing some of the best
>places to visit.


That is highly debatable. Personally, camping of any kind is at the
bottom of my to do list. Visiting a developed area is preferable and
the more amenities the better AFAIC.

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sf[_3_] 05-02-2008 03:09 PM

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On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:47:40 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>T wrote:
>
>> 1 minute shower? Holy crap, I'm a guy and there's no way I could move
>> that fast. Granted, I can get the in-shower portion down to about 5
>> minutes or so but 1 is pushing it.

>
>Showers must be one place where people waste a lot of water. I usually start
>laterhing up with the cold water while the whot water is coming up from the tank.
>I start with the shampoo them soap of the body, extremitie and nether regions and
>by the time the hot water arrives I am ready to rinse off. It rarely takes more
>than a minute.


Might as well use a bucket.

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Dee.Dee 05-02-2008 03:15 PM

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
3.184...
> On Tue 05 Feb 2008 06:02:43a, Pete C. told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon 04 Feb 2008 07:59:13p, Pete C. told us...
>>>
>>> > cybercat wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> "T" > wrote
>>> >> > 1 minute shower? Holy crap, I'm a guy and there's no way I could

> move
>>> >> > that fast. Granted, I can get the in-shower portion down to about 5
>>> >> > minutes or so but 1 is pushing it.
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't time myself, I just do my best. :) The mayor says you can
>>> >> do it in one minute, if you wet down, turn off the water, lather up,
>>> >> then rinse. Kind of takes all the pleasure out of a nice hot shower,
>>> >> you know?
>>> >
>>> > That is the technique you use with the shower in a camper when you
>>> > aren't camping anywhere with hookups. When you have 36 gal of fresh
>>> > water and 18 gal gray and black water tanks to last you a week, you
>>> > learn to both conserve water and holding tank space.
>>> >
>>>
>>> One of the major reasons I wouldn't own a camper.

>>
>> Well, that's pretty silly. I suppose you need to stay at a hotel, which
>> pretty well limits you to developed areas, missing some of the best
>> places to visit.
>>

>
> It really depends on what you want to see.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright



Light-years ago, I saw an interview (maybe with that Tom-guy who died
within the year who was always chuckling and laughing) with Kurt Vonnegut.
Tom asked Kurt why he didn't take his sun-glasses off. Kurt answered
something like, "Man it's all here inside." I didn't explain it well, but I
hope one gets my point.

Dee Dee



Dee.Dee 05-02-2008 03:19 PM

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<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:02:43 GMT, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
>
>>Well, that's pretty silly. I suppose you need to stay at a hotel, which
>>pretty well limits you to developed areas, missing some of the best
>>places to visit.

>
> That is highly debatable. Personally, camping of any kind is at the
> bottom of my to do list. Visiting a developed area is preferable and
> the more amenities the better AFAIC.
>



Besides, I don't feel that camping is like it used to be -- but I don't know
for sure. In New Mexico where I did over 2 years of camping every weekend,
we camped out of the back of a truck, beds configured in them with pots/pans
underneath them. We drove up into a field. Talk about beautiful mornings!
Well, New Mexico is not called the land of enchantment for nothing.

Now, staying in a motel/hotel is worse than camping out, no matter what the
cost. Gawwd, I hate them!
Dee Dee



Wayne Boatwright 05-02-2008 03:20 PM

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On Tue 05 Feb 2008 08:09:02a, told us...

> On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:02:43 GMT, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
>
>>Well, that's pretty silly. I suppose you need to stay at a hotel, which
>>pretty well limits you to developed areas, missing some of the best
>>places to visit.

>
> That is highly debatable. Personally, camping of any kind is at the
> bottom of my to do list. Visiting a developed area is preferable and
> the more amenities the better AFAIC.
>


Amen!

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trifling investment of fact.
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cybercat 05-02-2008 05:04 PM

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"Pete C." > wrote
>> One of the major reasons I wouldn't own a camper.

>
> Well, that's pretty silly. I suppose you need to stay at a hotel, which
> pretty well limits you to developed areas, missing some of the best
> places to visit.


It'a all a matter of personal taste. I know people who spend a fortune
to travel to far flung wilderness areas when I can spend half that and
go to Paris or Tuscany. They think I am as crazy as I think they are.

I'm afraid I'm one of the "my idea of camping is staying in less than
a five-star hotel" group.



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Pete C. 05-02-2008 05:34 PM

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cybercat wrote:
>
> "Pete C." > wrote
> >> One of the major reasons I wouldn't own a camper.

> >
> > Well, that's pretty silly. I suppose you need to stay at a hotel, which
> > pretty well limits you to developed areas, missing some of the best
> > places to visit.

>
> It'a all a matter of personal taste. I know people who spend a fortune
> to travel to far flung wilderness areas when I can spend half that and
> go to Paris or Tuscany. They think I am as crazy as I think they are.


I like both. Certainly it's nice to travel and visit interesting cities
(since I could never live in one), but it's also nice to get out to the
middle of nowhere. Caves tend to be in the middle of nowhere, while
SCUBA destinations tend to be in more developed areas so I get to both.

>
> I'm afraid I'm one of the "my idea of camping is staying in less than
> a five-star hotel" group.


Well, that's kind of my theory as well, since I take my fully equipped
camper, while others on the trips take tents or sleep in the back of
their vehicles.

John Kane 05-02-2008 06:04 PM

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On Feb 5, 10:09 am, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:47:40 -0500, Dave Smith
>
> > wrote:
> >T wrote:

>
> >> 1 minute shower? Holy crap, I'm a guy and there's no way I could move
> >> that fast. Granted, I can get the in-shower portion down to about 5
> >> minutes or so but 1 is pushing it.

>
> >Showers must be one place where people waste a lot of water. I usually start
> >laterhing up with the cold water while the whot water is coming up from the tank.
> >I start with the shampoo them soap of the body, extremitie and nether regions and
> >by the time the hot water arrives I am ready to rinse off. It rarely takes more
> >than a minute.

>
> Might as well use a bucket.
>
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The bucket sounds better; you get hot water all the time.

Not that I have anything against cool showers as long as the
temperature is over 35 C.

John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

T[_1_] 05-02-2008 06:27 PM

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In article >,
says...
>
> "T" > wrote
> > 1 minute shower? Holy crap, I'm a guy and there's no way I could move
> > that fast. Granted, I can get the in-shower portion down to about 5
> > minutes or so but 1 is pushing it.

>
> I don't time myself, I just do my best. :) The mayor says you can
> do it in one minute, if you wet down, turn off the water, lather up,
> then rinse. Kind of takes all the pleasure out of a nice hot shower,
> you know?
>
>
>
>


Yeah I bet it does. If the water system in this house wasn't so
sensitive I could do that, but it takes at least a minute to re-adjust
the temperature.

I wish they had a cutoff valve on showers that just temporarily stopped
the flow.


Pete C. 05-02-2008 07:17 PM

OT Drought Sufferers
 
T wrote:
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > "T" > wrote
> > > 1 minute shower? Holy crap, I'm a guy and there's no way I could move
> > > that fast. Granted, I can get the in-shower portion down to about 5
> > > minutes or so but 1 is pushing it.

> >
> > I don't time myself, I just do my best. :) The mayor says you can
> > do it in one minute, if you wet down, turn off the water, lather up,
> > then rinse. Kind of takes all the pleasure out of a nice hot shower,
> > you know?
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
> Yeah I bet it does. If the water system in this house wasn't so
> sensitive I could do that, but it takes at least a minute to re-adjust
> the temperature.


Some of the pressure balanced controls have good independent temp and
flow controls.

>
> I wish they had a cutoff valve on showers that just temporarily stopped
> the flow.


They do, and it's the norm on shower heads used in RVs.


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