On Nov 8, 3:15 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> "l, not -l" > wrote
>
> > Indeed, you do get the quarter back when you return the cart; that is the
> > point - return the cart yourself, so Aldi doesn't have to pay someone to
> > round up and return carts.
>
> Ugh, I've only seen those once, it was at Costco quite a few years
> ago. It didn't last. What a hassle getting the carts to separate.
> People would chase you down in the parking lot, waving a quarter
> begging to 'buy' your cart if you're done with it?
>
> nancy

Pricerite does that as well. I don't find it a hassle, and plenty of
people leave their cart in the middle of the parking lot so I get a
free cart and when I return it, a quarter for the tsedakah box. Also
a little extra exercise, which never hurts!

maxine in ri

Doug Weller wrote:
> On 08 Nov 2007 07:31:04 GMT, in rec.food.cooking, Dan Goodman wrote:
>
>> cybercat wrote:
>>
>>> "Sarah Gray" > wrote
>>>> The fresh meat is all injected, though, and so are the frozen
>>>> chickens (it's hard to find ones that aren't these days though).
>>> ooo, that's not good. Thanks for letting me know.
>> They inject with more water and salt than other supermarkets do.
>
> Just out of curiousity, how do you know this?
>
> Doug

Its says on the packaging how much solution is injected. The chicken at
Aldi (I checked yesterday) is 12%. I'm not sure what's "normal".

--

Sarah Gray

Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> All for food that costs more than in town. Or the states. It's ludicrous
>> that I have to pay $3 for a head of iceberg lettuce or $4.50 for a
>> smallish bunch of grapes. It's grape freaking season here in Italy for
>> cripes sake.
>
> An expensive commisary, geez. Doesn't seem right.
>
> nancy
>
>

I suspect that they ship produce in ( I know they do with meats...they
come from Germany) from other countries rather than using local, better
produce.

--
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On Nov 9, 1:05 am, Sarah Gray > wrote:
> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> > Sarah Gray wrote:
>
> >> Lou Decruss wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:59:11 -0800, Gregory Morrow
> >>> > wrote:
>
> >>>> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>
> >>>> [SNIPEROONIE "partially hydrogenated" nonsense]
>
> >>>>> ALDI is a store for poor
> >>>>> people.
> >>>> Nonsense, it's a store for smart people who want to save some money....
> >>> Gotta disagree with you there. Maybe for those of you who think
> >>> you're smart but are lacking in shopping skills. In your case just
> >>> lacking a car and grateful they got rid of that Dominick's. Shit, a
> >>> White Hen would be better than a Dominick's. I went to the Aldi's
> >>> site which you posted a link to, and found nothing special to make me
> >>> go to a place with such a limited selection. I also read the replies
> >>> from another forum that you posted. The first one had someone who
> >>> switched to the Ultra in Forest Park.
> >> Well, they don't have that store everywhere.
>
> >>> Doesn't that tell you that Aldi
> >>> isn't all that? Ultra is far from my favorite store but I've shopped
> >>> there many times. Aldi's site says cream cheese has been reduced to
> >>> $.89. Big deal. Same as Ultra. Or you can go to any Centrella store
> >>> and get the name brand (Philadelphia) for $.99. Aldi has reduced
> >>> butter to $1.89. Ultra has it for $1.50. By my limited math skills
> >>> you people that think you're smart, are overpaying. Various pork
> >>> chops range from $2.89 to $3.69 at Aldi. I recently paid $1.29 for
> >>> Aldi's $3.69 version and they weren't cryovaced in crap. We were out
> >>> in the burbs and found a great place with a real meat counter. I
> >>> could go on and on about how silly your comment was but I don't want
> >>> to embarrass you.
>
> >> Most of the meat at Aldi is not priced competitively enough to beat loss
> >> leader prices. (There is also the quality issue; I assume most people
> >> prefer their beef unadulterated) The low prices on the hundreds of other
> >> pantry staples they have make up for it, imo. I think it is ridiculous
> >> to make a claim that to save money one should shop at only one store. My
> >> personal shopping plan type thing is to shop loss leaders at the chains,
> >> and fill in the gaps with Aldi stuff.
>
> > I've notice that Aldi's meat is not appreciably cheaper than what I can get
> > at my two local independent stupormarkets (Treasure Island and the Market
> > Place in Chicawgo). I'm not going to Aldi to save ten cents on pork chops
> > or chix breasts that I can get closer to home (I have to take a bus to Aldi
> > as I don't drive)...I *might* go there to get some of their German - type
> > stuff, e.g. Black Forest Ham, sausages, etc. or a spiral - sliced ham, which
> > can be appreciably cheaper at Aldi.
>
> > Same with their produce items, Aldi will often have pound bags of min -
> > carrots or three pound bags of onions for 79 cents, these things are
> > routinely on sale for 99 cents at my regular stores. And a whiles back I
> > noticed that per pound cabbage was actually a bit *more* expensive at Aldi
> > ("large head for 99 cents") than at Market Place which had four lbs for a
> > buck...and Treasure Island at 19 cents/lb....
>
> > I pays to do yer homework...
>
> Heh. I have a notebook where I have the best "regular" prices on pretty
> much anything I might care to purchase, grocery-wise. 75% of it is Aldi.

I keep those figures in my head. It's funny, grocery store prices
have been a hobby for years, especially what I've always considered
staple items, beef, eggs, dairy, and formerly, beer.
>
> If you know how much the best regular price is, you know when a sale is
> really a deal, and when you can pass it up.
>
> --
>
> Sarah Gray

--Bryan, on day 3 of Atkins induction

"Gregory Morrow" > wrote

> One local chain here (Jewel) regulary advertises items at "!0 for 10
> dollars". Thing is, you can always beat that price down the street or
> wherever where you can get "10 for 40/60/75 cents per item" or
> whatever...I
> guess we suckers are supposed to go "WOW!" to get ten small oranges for
> ten
> dollars (yep, that's a BUCK per orange) when I can go elsewhere and get a
> five pound bag of oranges for $1.59 or whatever...

You have that right. You had better know your prices before assuming
10 for $10 is a good price. Often it really is. Sometimes not so much.
Sometimes it's a downright rip off.

nancy

"maxine in ri" > wrote

> On Nov 8, 3:15 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>> Ugh, I've only seen those once, it was at Costco quite a few years
>> ago. It didn't last. What a hassle getting the carts to separate.
>> People would chase you down in the parking lot, waving a quarter
>> begging to 'buy' your cart if you're done with it?

> Pricerite does that as well. I don't find it a hassle, and plenty of
> people leave their cart in the middle of the parking lot so I get a
> free cart and when I return it, a quarter for the tsedakah box. Also
> a little extra exercise, which never hurts!

Maybe it was the type they used, it was so hard to get the
cart out. People would gather around and help each other
get the chains off. It was stupid. At that time there was another
store, a supermarket, that tried that, and it didn't last there, either.

I don't think a quarter is much of an incentive for many people to
clown around with the cart machine. Seems like paradise for a
kid, or maxine! (laugh) When I was a kid you'd find bottles and
cans to return for money. Cleaning up the supermarket parking
lot at a quarter a shot, that's a great idea!

nancy

"ravenlynne" > wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:

>> person gave me a quarter and went and did their shopping. Then
>> presumably they returned the cart to get their quarter back or made
>> a similar deal with some other person.

> It's a racket at the commissary here IMO...Usually I have to go to the ATM
> to get cash so that I can go and buy euro so that I can go rent a cart
> that they don't let me take out of the store anyway...which practically
> forces us to have a bagger take our things out to our cars..then we have
> to tip the bagger a bunch because they work only for tips.

Wow, how annoying is that? So, you have to pay for a cart, you
don't get that money back? And you can't even steal it which is
why some stores tried that chain routine? Yikes, then you have to
pay someone to help you take your bags to the car.

You're right, that is a racket.

> All for food that costs more than in town. Or the states. It's ludicrous
> that I have to pay $3 for a head of iceberg lettuce or $4.50 for a
> smallish bunch of grapes. It's grape freaking season here in Italy for
> cripes sake.

An expensive commisary, geez. Doesn't seem right.

nancy

Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
> Arri London wrote:
>
> > cybercat wrote:
> > >
> > > Going tomorrow for the first time to take a look at the hams and
> turkeys. (I
> > > am doing Thanksgiving dinner this year.) They have butterballs for $1.29
> a
> > > pound, and Smithfield hams, too. Shanks (1.19 a lb) and butts (1.29 a
> lb).
> > > No idea what the difference is.
> > >
> > > I see they carry what they call "private" brands. Any items particularly
> > > good in these Aldi brands?
> > >
> > > I know I have to take my own bags and a quarter for the cart rental.
> > > Anything else?
> >
> > Can't help you with what's particularly good, as that varies from
> > country to country. Used to shop Aldi's in London for the German goods
> > and the ground coffee, which probably was their own brand. It was within
> > somewhat long walking distance but much of the walk was along a canal
> > anyway.
> >
> > The selection will vary from time to time so if you do see something you
> > like get it then and there! Next week might disappear.
>
> Now what we need here in the states is Lidl...!!!
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

Thought there were already some Lidls in the US? None around here of
course, and no Aldi either.

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:09:39 -0000, maxine in ri >
wrote:

>On Nov 8, 3:15 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>> "l, not -l" > wrote
>>
>> > Indeed, you do get the quarter back when you return the cart; that is the
>> > point - return the cart yourself, so Aldi doesn't have to pay someone to
>> > round up and return carts.
>>
>> Ugh, I've only seen those once, it was at Costco quite a few years
>> ago. It didn't last. What a hassle getting the carts to separate.
>> People would chase you down in the parking lot, waving a quarter
>> begging to 'buy' your cart if you're done with it?
>>
>> nancy
>
>Pricerite does that as well. I don't find it a hassle, and plenty of
>people leave their cart in the middle of the parking lot so I get a
>free cart and when I return it, a quarter for the tsedakah box. Also
>a little extra exercise, which never hurts!
>
>maxine in ri

maxine, what does 'tsedakah" mean?

your goyisher pal,
blake

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 04:30:16 GMT, Sarah Gray >
wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:59:11 -0800, Gregory Morrow
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> [SNIPEROONIE "partially hydrogenated" nonsense]
>>>
>>>
>>>> ALDI is a store for poor
>>>> people.
>>>
>>> Nonsense, it's a store for smart people who want to save some money...
>>
>> Gotta disagree with you there. Maybe for those of you who think
>> you're smart but are lacking in shopping skills. In your case just
>> lacking a car and grateful they got rid of that Dominick's. Shit, a
>> White Hen would be better than a Dominick's. I went to the Aldi's
>> site which you posted a link to, and found nothing special to make me
>> go to a place with such a limited selection. I also read the replies
>> from another forum that you posted. The first one had someone who
>> switched to the Ultra in Forest Park.
>
>Well, they don't have that store everywhere.

Hopefully there's something similar in most large cities. I do
understand some people here have limited choices, but that doesn't
mean I'll accept them saying Aldi is wonderful. This is a food group
and a few of us may be a bit snobby. If Aldi's was my best local
discount choice I'd be making a road trip to the closest big city.

>Most of the meat at Aldi is not priced competitively enough to beat loss
>leader prices. (There is also the quality issue; I assume most people
>prefer their beef unadulterated)

Yes, quality is an issue. After a quick look at their website I'd say
it's not all loss leaders. Louise came home yesterday with some
beautiful pork chops that were NOT on sale for $1.78 a pound.

>The low prices on the hundreds of other
>pantry staples they have make up for it, imo. I think it is ridiculous
>to make a claim that to save money one should shop at only one store.

Sorry if I gave the impression I (we) only shop at one store. During
a year it's probably more like 25. We've shopped at 4 this week
alone.

>My
>personal shopping plan type thing is to shop loss leaders at the chains,
>and fill in the gaps with Aldi stuff.

That's a good plan. Glad it works for you.

Lou















>
>>> But you'll also find plenty of savvy middle class white folks
>>> shopping there too.
>>
>> Using food stamps?
>>
>
>In the 3 years I have been shopping at Aldi, I have seen all of one
>person pay with food stamps.
>
>>> People need to get smart about grocery shopping,
>>
>> Including you.
>>
>>> there is no particular stigma about shopping at Aldi.
>>
>> LOLOL. TJ's is the yuppie 7-11, and Aldi's is the food stamp heaven.
>> It's going to take a long time to change that stigma if it ever
>> happens.
>>
>>> They opened a new store near me that is sparkling clean and with courteous help.
>>> I'd take 'em over Whole Foods any day..
>>
>> Comparing WF to Aldi's is lubricious.
>>
>
>I will agree with you on that. Myself, I'd go for one of the local
>upscale places over WF anyhow. (I'm biased, I used to work there :>)

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:05:28 -0500, Sarah Gray
> wrote:

>Heh. I have a notebook where I have the best "regular" prices on pretty
>much anything I might care to purchase, grocery-wise. 75% of it is Aldi.

Your menu must be quite limited then.


Lou

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:17:41 -0500, in rec.food.cooking, Sarah Gray wrote:

>Doug Weller wrote:
>> On 08 Nov 2007 07:31:04 GMT, in rec.food.cooking, Dan Goodman wrote:
>>
>>> cybercat wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Sarah Gray" > wrote
>>>>> The fresh meat is all injected, though, and so are the frozen
>>>>> chickens (it's hard to find ones that aren't these days though).
>>>> ooo, that's not good. Thanks for letting me know.
>>> They inject with more water and salt than other supermarkets do.
>>
>> Just out of curiousity, how do you know this?
>>
>> Doug
>
>Its says on the packaging how much solution is injected. The chicken at
>Aldi (I checked yesterday) is 12%. I'm not sure what's "normal".

Walmart organic, up to 15%
http://www.organicconsumers.org/arti...ticle_6369.cfm

Pilgrim's Pride over 13% but Sanderson Farms 9.5% (confusing as they say
they don't inject).
http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dw....38ffc5d2.html

Evidently 'enhanced chicken' normally contains no more than 15% water"

Doug
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"Doug Weller" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:17:41 -0500, in rec.food.cooking, Sarah Gray wrote:
>
>>Doug Weller wrote:
>>> On 08 Nov 2007 07:31:04 GMT, in rec.food.cooking, Dan Goodman wrote:
>>>
>>>> cybercat wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Sarah Gray" > wrote
>>>>>> The fresh meat is all injected, though, and so are the frozen
>>>>>> chickens (it's hard to find ones that aren't these days though).
>>>>> ooo, that's not good. Thanks for letting me know.
>>>> They inject with more water and salt than other supermarkets do.
>>>
>>> Just out of curiousity, how do you know this?
>>>
>>> Doug
>>
>>Its says on the packaging how much solution is injected. The chicken at
>>Aldi (I checked yesterday) is 12%. I'm not sure what's "normal".
>
> Walmart organic, up to 15%
> http://www.organicconsumers.org/arti...ticle_6369.cfm
>
> Pilgrim's Pride over 13% but Sanderson Farms 9.5% (confusing as they say
> they don't inject).
> http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dw....38ffc5d2.html
>
> Evidently 'enhanced chicken' normally contains no more than 15% water"
>
I noticed 7% and 12% in a random sampling of Aldi meats yesterday. None of
it looked good, it was all sealed up like Walmart's is, and furthermore, the
prices were not as good as those I can get at my regular grocery stores when
things are on sale.



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On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:13:17 -0500, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>
>"Gregory Morrow" > wrote
>
>> One local chain here (Jewel) regulary advertises items at "!0 for 10
>> dollars". Thing is, you can always beat that price down the street or
>> wherever where you can get "10 for 40/60/75 cents per item" or
>> whatever...I
>> guess we suckers are supposed to go "WOW!" to get ten small oranges for
>> ten
>> dollars (yep, that's a BUCK per orange) when I can go elsewhere and get a
>> five pound bag of oranges for $1.59 or whatever...
>
>You have that right. You had better know your prices before assuming
>10 for $10 is a good price. Often it really is. Sometimes not so much.
>Sometimes it's a downright rip off.
>
>nancy
>
The Jewel Greg spoke of is horrible for that. I don't buy canned
veggies but this week they have Green Giant 10 for $5. Another place
has Del Monte for $.28. Even though that's almost half the sale price
of Jewel the dopes will still go load up at Jewel thinking they're
getting a deal. I've got several flyers here at the moment and it's a
joke comparing prices that Jewel claims are deals. They always have
sales on deli meat and cheese. But they advertise 1/2 pound prices.
I can almost always get a full pound of the same item for less than
the sale price of a 1/2 pound a Jewel. Some people are pretty dumb
when it comes to advertising.

Lou

Arri London wrote:

> Thought there were already some Lidls in the US? None around here of
> course, and no Aldi either.

There is no Aldi near me. In fact, I looked up 10 states that I visit
fairly often, and I could not find an Aldi in those states, either.

Becca

On Nov 9, 11:19 am, "cybercat" > wrote:
> "Doug Weller" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:17:41 -0500, in rec.food.cooking, Sarah Gray wrote:
>
> >>Doug Weller wrote:
> >>> On 08 Nov 2007 07:31:04 GMT, in rec.food.cooking, Dan Goodman wrote:
>
> >>>> cybercat wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Sarah Gray" > wrote
> >>>>>> The fresh meat is all injected, though, and so are the frozen
> >>>>>> chickens (it's hard to find ones that aren't these days though).
> >>>>> ooo, that's not good. Thanks for letting me know.
> >>>> They inject with more water and salt than other supermarkets do.
>
> >>> Just out of curiousity, how do you know this?
>
> >>> Doug
>
> >>Its says on the packaging how much solution is injected. The chicken at
> >>Aldi (I checked yesterday) is 12%. I'm not sure what's "normal".
>
> > Walmart organic, up to 15%
> >http://www.organicconsumers.org/arti...ticle_6369.cfm
>
> > Pilgrim's Pride over 13% but Sanderson Farms 9.5% (confusing as they say
> > they don't inject).
> >http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dw...tories/wfaa070...
>
> > Evidently 'enhanced chicken' normally contains no more than 15% water"
>
> I noticed 7% and 12% in a random sampling of Aldi meats yesterday. None of
> it looked good, it was all sealed up like Walmart's is, and furthermore, the
> prices were not as good as those I can get at my regular grocery stores when
> things are on sale.
>
Only stupid people buy their meat.

--Bryan

"Sarah Gray" > wrote in message
t...
> Doug Weller wrote:
>> On 08 Nov 2007 07:31:04 GMT, in rec.food.cooking, Dan Goodman wrote:
>>
>>> cybercat wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Sarah Gray" > wrote
>>>>> The fresh meat is all injected, though, and so are the frozen
>>>>> chickens (it's hard to find ones that aren't these days though).
>>>> ooo, that's not good. Thanks for letting me know.
>>> They inject with more water and salt than other supermarkets do.
>>
>> Just out of curiousity, how do you know this?
>>
>> Doug
>
> Its says on the packaging how much solution is injected. The chicken at
> Aldi (I checked yesterday) is 12%. I'm not sure what's "normal".
>

Sarah, do you find that you can get better prices on meats at other places?
For example, I can almost always get pork loin, whole or in chops, for $1.99
a pound, and it was more at Aldi. Same with beef, sirloin tip, chuck, and
other cuts can be had for 1.99 to $2.49 a pound weekly. I saw no price less
than $3 a pound at Aldi. (I am not talking about ground beef, I did not look
a that.)



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"Doug Weller" > wrote
> Aldi also sells a lot of good German
> stuff. You'd recognise the brands if you shopped in Germany! And good
> chocolate.

Have you tried the German coffee? Or the Kona or Jamaican Blue Mountain?


>Also excellent electronic stuff.

I went at the wrong time, it was all either gone or picked over. But yes,
the prices
looked great. And the cookware was nice, too. Heavy, good quality, and
cheap.

> In the UK they carry some Sara Lee stuff as well. And they've got a mango
> tikka lamb burger people say is delicious!

There were lots of name brand items. In addition to the Butterball turkeys
and
Smithfield hams, I recall Nabisco Cheezits, Marshall's frozen breads, Quaker
Oats
breakfast bars, Mattel toys, (loads of Barbie pink, lol); Margaret
Whats-her-name
canned beans and collards (excellent stuff, at half price); Sara Lee cheese
cake,
Ghirardelli chocolates, Folger's coffee, Fisher Price and Hasbro toys and
Random
House books for children; and Black and Decker tools. It's so close by, I
may
drop in once a week just to see what they have.

One of the best things I got was a simple outside door mat. Nothing fancy,
but
I have not seen one for less than $10 anywhere for years. This one was
$3.99.
It's great paying less for things you need but really don't care about, you
know?



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In article >,
Doug Weller > wrote:


> Evidently 'enhanced chicken' normally contains no more than 15% water"


Gotta love supermarket chicken. Fresh chicken isn't frozen, that's the
law. It's hard as a rock, and has ice crystals on it, but it isn't
legally frozen.

I'm not really upset. I'm sure that preserves it better. 90% of the
time, people buy fresh meat. Then they stick it in the freezer.

Doug Weller wrote:

> On 08 Nov 2007 07:31:04 GMT, in rec.food.cooking, Dan Goodman wrote:
>
> > cybercat wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Sarah Gray" > wrote
> >> > The fresh meat is all injected, though, and so are the frozen
> >> > chickens (it's hard to find ones that aren't these days though).
> >>
> >> ooo, that's not good. Thanks for letting me know.
> >
> > They inject with more water and salt than other supermarkets do.
>
> Just out of curiousity, how do you know this?

By reading labels.

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Sarah Gray wrote:

> Doug Weller wrote:
> > On 08 Nov 2007 07:31:04 GMT, in rec.food.cooking, Dan Goodman wrote:
> >
> > > cybercat wrote:
> > >
> >>>"Sarah Gray" > wrote
> > > > > The fresh meat is all injected, though, and so are the frozen
> > > > > chickens (it's hard to find ones that aren't these days
> > > > > though).
> > > > ooo, that's not good. Thanks for letting me know.
> > > They inject with more water and salt than other supermarkets do.
> >
> > Just out of curiousity, how do you know this?
> >
> > Doug
>
> Its says on the packaging how much solution is injected. The chicken
> at Aldi (I checked yesterday) is 12%. I'm not sure what's "normal".

The chicken leg quarters I bought recently at Rainbow (Twin Cities) had
4% water added; no mention of added salt.

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Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:13:17 -0500, "Nancy Young" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Gregory Morrow" > wrote
> >
> >> One local chain here (Jewel) regulary advertises items at "!0 for 10
> >> dollars". Thing is, you can always beat that price down the street or
> >> wherever where you can get "10 for 40/60/75 cents per item" or
> >> whatever...I
> >> guess we suckers are supposed to go "WOW!" to get ten small oranges for
> >> ten
> >> dollars (yep, that's a BUCK per orange) when I can go elsewhere and get
a
> >> five pound bag of oranges for $1.59 or whatever...
> >
> >You have that right. You had better know your prices before assuming
> >10 for $10 is a good price. Often it really is. Sometimes not so much.
> >Sometimes it's a downright rip off.
> >
> >nancy
> >
> The Jewel Greg spoke of is horrible for that. I don't buy canned
> veggies but this week they have Green Giant 10 for $5. Another place
> has Del Monte for $.28. Even though that's almost half the sale price
> of Jewel the dopes will still go load up at Jewel thinking they're
> getting a deal. I've got several flyers here at the moment and it's a
> joke comparing prices that Jewel claims are deals. They always have
> sales on deli meat and cheese. But they advertise 1/2 pound prices.
> I can almost always get a full pound of the same item for less than
> the sale price of a 1/2 pound a Jewel. Some people are pretty dumb
> when it comes to advertising.


That particular Jewel (on Broadway & Addison) is getting some competition
from the new Whole Foods that opened this summer a coupla blocks away on
Halsted St. Several folks have said that WF's 365 brand is often cheaper
than Jewel (or Dominick's), not to mention that WF's produce is better and
it's quality for what you pay for, unlike the dire stuff at Jewel...if you
are gonna pay a lot for produce you might as well get stuff that's not
shriveled and rotten when you *buy* it which is often the case at Jewel...

I stop in at that Jewel every few weeks or so out of curiousity. Last time
I did poke around and found some reasonable little stuff, like pound bags of
various dried beans for 50 cents, but that was about it...and they can have
pretty cheaply - priced booze.

Another kicker was the deli potato salad for $3.50 per lb., just plain 'ole
deli potato salad that should be going for 99 cents/lb...

A manager at Treasure Island (we are drinking buddies at the corner bar,
lol) told me their business was off about 5% because of the Whole Foods
opening. It's still my primary place to shop, but it's a store that has
been frozen in time c. 1981 or so (their motto is "America's Most European
Supermarket", and IIRC Julia Child was present at the opening of this first
store in 1963, she used to give cooking demos there)...

--
Best
Greg

On Nov 9, 12:29 pm, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:

> Only stupid people buy their meat.

I discovered last summer that the small addition on the back of my
garage was
once used as a chicken coop. I joked that if I got one more pay cut
I'd have
to start raising chickens.

It was a joke, too. I don't deal with things that shit. (Except my
husband,
and he deals with his own.)

Cindy Hamilton

On Nov 9, 11:06 am, Doug Weller >
wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:17:41 -0500, in rec.food.cooking, Sarah Gray wrote:
> >Doug Weller wrote:
> >> On 08 Nov 2007 07:31:04 GMT, in rec.food.cooking, Dan Goodman wrote:
>
> >>> cybercat wrote:
>
> >>>> "Sarah Gray" > wrote
> >>>>> The fresh meat is all injected, though, and so are the frozen
> >>>>> chickens (it's hard to find ones that aren't these days though).
> >>>> ooo, that's not good. Thanks for letting me know.
> >>> They inject with more water and salt than other supermarkets do.
>
> >> Just out of curiousity, how do you know this?
>
> >> Doug
>
> >Its says on the packaging how much solution is injected. The chicken at
> >Aldi (I checked yesterday) is 12%. I'm not sure what's "normal".
>
> Walmart organic, up to 15%http://www.organicconsumers.org/arti...ticle_6369.cfm
>
> Pilgrim's Pride over 13% but Sanderson Farms 9.5% (confusing as they say
> they don't inject).http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dw...tories/wfaa070...
>
> Evidently 'enhanced chicken' normally contains no more than 15% water"

There is such a thing as "retained" water, which is essentially ice in
the body cavity left over from the chilling process. That is not that
"solution" crap. They just have to put it on there because it adds
weight. It's a *weights and measures* thing.
>
> Doug
> --
> Doug Weller --

--Bryan

Arri London wrote:

> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> >
> > Arri London wrote:
> >
> > > cybercat wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Going tomorrow for the first time to take a look at the hams and
> > turkeys. (I
> > > > am doing Thanksgiving dinner this year.) They have butterballs for
$1.29
> > a
> > > > pound, and Smithfield hams, too. Shanks (1.19 a lb) and butts (1.29
a
> > lb).
> > > > No idea what the difference is.
> > > >
> > > > I see they carry what they call "private" brands. Any items
particularly
> > > > good in these Aldi brands?
> > > >
> > > > I know I have to take my own bags and a quarter for the cart rental.
> > > > Anything else?
> > >
> > > Can't help you with what's particularly good, as that varies from
> > > country to country. Used to shop Aldi's in London for the German goods
> > > and the ground coffee, which probably was their own brand. It was
within
> > > somewhat long walking distance but much of the walk was along a canal
> > > anyway.
> > >
> > > The selection will vary from time to time so if you do see something
you
> > > like get it then and there! Next week might disappear.
> >
> > Now what we need here in the states is Lidl...!!!
> >
> > --
> > Best
> > Greg
>
> Thought there were already some Lidls in the US? None around here of
> course, and no Aldi either.


No Lidl's in the US AFAIK (this Wiki article says that Canada is to get
some)...posters on rec.travel.europe have mentioned them from time to time
as a good place to get strong cheap beer...:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidl

"Lidl is a European discount supermarket chain of German origin that
operates 5,000 stores. In Germany it is Aldi's main competitor. The full
name of the company is Lidl Stiftung & Co. KG. It belongs to the holding
company Schwarz, which also owns the store chains Handelshof and Kaufland.

Lidl has established itself in over 17 countries. It was founded in the
1930s by a member of the Schwarz family; then called Schwarz
Lebensmittel-Sortimentsgrosshandlung. In the 1970s, the first Lidl stores of
today's incarnation opened.

Lidl is not an abbreviation, but the last name of Ludwig Lidl, a retired
teacher. In 1930, Josef Schwarz became a partner in Südfrüchte Grosshandel
Lidl & Co., a fruit wholesaler, and he developed the company into a general
food wholesaler. In 1977, under his son Dieter Schwarz, Lidl&Schwarz began
to focus on discount markets, larger supermarkets, and cash and carry
wholesale markets. The first Lidl discount store was opened in 1973, copying
the Aldi concept. In 1977, the Lidl chain comprised 30 discount stores.
Dieter Schwarz's problem was that he could not just start using the Lidl
name. As Schwarz Markt (Black Market) did not seem as a good idea, he bought
the right to use the Lidl name from Ludwig for 1000 marks.

Official site:

http://www.lidl-info.com

Here is the UK site with some of their sale offerings, pretty cheap even
considering the weak dollar (multiply Pound Sterling by two to get the
dollar price - and what is "Mexican tuna salad"? :-) )

http://www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pages/i.home


</>

Dan Abel wrote:

> Gotta love supermarket chicken. Fresh chicken isn't frozen, that's the
> law. It's hard as a rock, and has ice crystals on it, but it isn't
> legally frozen.
>
> I'm not really upset. I'm sure that preserves it better. 90% of the
> time, people buy fresh meat. Then they stick it in the freezer.

Dan, I have seen those "never frozen" chickens that are frozen as hard
as a rock. I posted this message about turkeys 7 years ago:

Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
From: Becca >
Date: 2000/11/19
Subject: Moose-O-Gram (about turkeys)

USDA regulations specify that any turkey which has ever been cooled to
zero degrees Fahrenheit or lower must be labeled "frozen".

Some of these turkeys were processed weeks or months ago, not exactly my
idea of "fresh". Next time you buy chicken, notice how many poultry
producers advertise "Fresh, Never Frozen!"

Becca

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:00:42 -0500, "cybercat" >
wrote:


>Smithfield hams,

I think you're talking about ham from the Smithfield Packaging
Company. I really doubt you say a real Smithfield Ham. Check out
the price of the real thing.

http://www.smithfieldhams.com/product/5/3

Hardly something a "low end" grocery store is going to stock.

Lou

>
> Here is the UK site with some of their sale offerings, pretty cheap even
> considering the weak dollar (multiply Pound Sterling by two to get the
> dollar price - and what is "Mexican tuna salad"? :-) )
>


Maybe it's something you could put in a "fish taco."

N.

ravenlynne > wrote:

> Usually I have to go to the
> ATM to get cash so that I can go and buy euro so that I can go rent a
> cart

Why don't you use a plastic chip instead of a coin? I always do. One
cannot spend a plastic chip, so it is always there.

Victor

Janet Baraclough wrote:


> The only way to get a cart from the long line of locked-together
> empty ones, , is by inserting a coin into the lock of the end cart.
> The only way to get your coin back, is by re-locking the cart to
> another cart in front of it (which is locked to another, etc) .

Just hope you don't get a sucky cart.




Brian

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won't shut up.
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:22:16 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:

>
>Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:13:17 -0500, "Nancy Young" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Gregory Morrow" > wrote
>> >
>> >> One local chain here (Jewel) regulary advertises items at "!0 for 10
>> >> dollars". Thing is, you can always beat that price down the street or
>> >> wherever where you can get "10 for 40/60/75 cents per item" or
>> >> whatever...I
>> >> guess we suckers are supposed to go "WOW!" to get ten small oranges for
>> >> ten
>> >> dollars (yep, that's a BUCK per orange) when I can go elsewhere and get
>a
>> >> five pound bag of oranges for $1.59 or whatever...
>> >
>> >You have that right. You had better know your prices before assuming
>> >10 for $10 is a good price. Often it really is. Sometimes not so much.
>> >Sometimes it's a downright rip off.
>> >
>> >nancy
>> >
>> The Jewel Greg spoke of is horrible for that. I don't buy canned
>> veggies but this week they have Green Giant 10 for $5. Another place
>> has Del Monte for $.28. Even though that's almost half the sale price
>> of Jewel the dopes will still go load up at Jewel thinking they're
>> getting a deal. I've got several flyers here at the moment and it's a
>> joke comparing prices that Jewel claims are deals. They always have
>> sales on deli meat and cheese. But they advertise 1/2 pound prices.
>> I can almost always get a full pound of the same item for less than
>> the sale price of a 1/2 pound a Jewel. Some people are pretty dumb
>> when it comes to advertising.
>
>
>That particular Jewel (on Broadway & Addison) is getting some competition
>from the new Whole Foods that opened this summer a coupla blocks away on
>Halsted St. Several folks have said that WF's 365 brand is often cheaper
>than Jewel (or Dominick's), not to mention that WF's produce is better and
>it's quality for what you pay for, unlike the dire stuff at Jewel...if you
>are gonna pay a lot for produce you might as well get stuff that's not
>shriveled and rotten when you *buy* it which is often the case at Jewel...

Jewel is not a store for people who cook. A few weeks ago I needed a
few cloves of garlic. There's a Jewel one block away. I'd had a few
beers and didn't want to drive so I walked over. Out of the 2 heads I
bought I got 6 usable cloves and threw the rest in the trash. When I
was there I checked the rest of the produce out. The Avocados looked
like they were there for weeks. I picked one up and it was nothing
more than mush.

>I stop in at that Jewel every few weeks or so out of curiousity. Last time
>I did poke around and found some reasonable little stuff, like pound bags of
>various dried beans for 50 cents, but that was about it...and they can have
>pretty cheaply - priced booze.

At one time I got beer there. When Ultra came around I was pleased to
see they always are 3-4 bucks cheaper for my brand. We've got lots of
friends who are out west in Dupage Co. We're out there at least once
a week, so we stock up on booze, smokes for me, and fill the car up
with gas. Cook Co. tax is insane.
>
>Another kicker was the deli potato salad for $3.50 per lb., just plain 'ole
>deli potato salad that should be going for 99 cents/lb...

Isn't is nice to see them stir it up to mix the crust in? GACK!!

>A manager at Treasure Island (we are drinking buddies at the corner bar,
>lol) told me their business was off about 5% because of the Whole Foods
>opening. It's still my primary place to shop, but it's a store that has
>been frozen in time c. 1981 or so (their motto is "America's Most European
>Supermarket", and IIRC Julia Child was present at the opening of this first
>store in 1963, she used to give cooking demos there)...

I was on a short assignment in that area several years ago and went in
to grab something for lunch. It seemed like a really good store.
Pretty far for us ex-southsiders to go to though. In July we moved a
bit northwest near Harlem. Shopping here is much more pleasant.

Lou

Victor Sack wrote:

> ravenlynne > wrote:
>
> > Usually I have to go to the
> > ATM to get cash so that I can go and buy euro so that I can go rent
> > a cart
>
> Why don't you use a plastic chip instead of a coin? I always do. One
> cannot spend a plastic chip, so it is always there.

Doesn't work that way in the US.



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Victor Sack wrote:
> ravenlynne > wrote:
>
>> Usually I have to go to the
>> ATM to get cash so that I can go and buy euro so that I can go rent a
>> cart
>
> Why don't you use a plastic chip instead of a coin? I always do. One
> cannot spend a plastic chip, so it is always there.
>
> Victor

What sort of plastic chip?

--
-Gina in Italy

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ravenlynne > wrote:

>Victor Sack wrote:

>> ravenlynne > wrote:

>>> Usually I have to go to the
>>> ATM to get cash so that I can go and buy euro so that I can go rent a
>>> cart

>> Why don't you use a plastic chip instead of a coin? I always do. One
>> cannot spend a plastic chip, so it is always there.

>> Victor

>What sort of plastic chip?

(The part of grocery shopping in Italy that I kept forgetting was
remembering to take the produce to the deli counter to be weighed.)

Plastic chip? For the cart?

Steve

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:19:15 -0500, in rec.food.cooking, cybercat wrote:

>
>"Doug Weller" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:17:41 -0500, in rec.food.cooking, Sarah Gray wrote:
>>
>>>Doug Weller wrote:
>>>> On 08 Nov 2007 07:31:04 GMT, in rec.food.cooking, Dan Goodman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> cybercat wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Sarah Gray" > wrote
>>>>>>> The fresh meat is all injected, though, and so are the frozen
>>>>>>> chickens (it's hard to find ones that aren't these days though).
>>>>>> ooo, that's not good. Thanks for letting me know.
>>>>> They inject with more water and salt than other supermarkets do.
>>>>
>>>> Just out of curiousity, how do you know this?
>>>>
>>>> Doug
>>>
>>>Its says on the packaging how much solution is injected. The chicken at
>>>Aldi (I checked yesterday) is 12%. I'm not sure what's "normal".
>>
>> Walmart organic, up to 15%
>> http://www.organicconsumers.org/arti...ticle_6369.cfm
>>
>> Pilgrim's Pride over 13% but Sanderson Farms 9.5% (confusing as they say
>> they don't inject).
>> http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dw....38ffc5d2.html
>>
>> Evidently 'enhanced chicken' normally contains no more than 15% water"
>>
>I noticed 7% and 12% in a random sampling of Aldi meats yesterday. None of
>it looked good, it was all sealed up like Walmart's is, and furthermore, the
>prices were not as good as those I can get at my regular grocery stores when
>things are on sale.

I agree completely. Most of the meat and poultry I buy is marked down
stuff that I freeze immediately. I normally wouldn't buy from Aldi (except
frozen goose breast if they did that).
Doug
--
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:12:33 +0000 (UTC), in rec.food.cooking, Steve Pope
wrote:

>ravenlynne > wrote:
>
>>Victor Sack wrote:
>
>>> ravenlynne > wrote:
>
>>>> Usually I have to go to the
>>>> ATM to get cash so that I can go and buy euro so that I can go rent a
>>>> cart
>
>>> Why don't you use a plastic chip instead of a coin? I always do. One
>>> cannot spend a plastic chip, so it is always there.
>
>>> Victor
>
>>What sort of plastic chip?
>
>(The part of grocery shopping in Italy that I kept forgetting was
>remembering to take the produce to the deli counter to be weighed.)
>
>Plastic chip? For the cart?
>
>Steve

Same size as the coin. I've got one.

Doug
--
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A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com
Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk
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Doug Weller > wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:12:33 +0000 (UTC), in rec.food.cooking, Steve Pope
>wrote:

>>ravenlynne > wrote:

>>>Victor Sack wrote:

>>>> ravenlynne > wrote:

>>>>> Usually I have to go to the
>>>>> ATM to get cash so that I can go and buy euro so that I can go rent a
>>>>> cart

>>>> Why don't you use a plastic chip instead of a coin? I always do. One
>>>> cannot spend a plastic chip, so it is always there.

>>>> Victor

>>>What sort of plastic chip?

>>(The part of grocery shopping in Italy that I kept forgetting was
>>remembering to take the produce to the deli counter to be weighed.)

>>Plastic chip? For the cart?

>>Steve

>Same size as the coin. I've got one.

In the states you'd be charged with shopping cart theft
if you tried to jinro a cart stand mechanism.

In the past two weeks, there was one guy apprehended for
stealing a donut, another for stealing 10 jelly beans (which
he claimed was a legitimate sample). Either pales compared
to an entire shopping cart.

(Nobody ever claimed we were civilized.)

Steve

ravenlynne wrote:
> Victor Sack wrote:
>> ravenlynne > wrote:
>>
>>> Usually I have to go to the
>>> ATM to get cash so that I can go and buy euro so that I can go rent
>>> a cart
>>
>> Why don't you use a plastic chip instead of a coin? I always do. One
>> cannot spend a plastic chip, so it is always there.
>>
>> Victor
>
> What sort of plastic chip?

Here in UK we can buy a metal coin shape. Mine has text saying 'Worlds best
Grannie' ) It has a clip through a small hole so you can attach it to
your key ring. You can't spend it and it is always on the key ring........

ravenlynne > wrote:

> Victor Sack wrote:
> > ravenlynne > wrote:
> >
> >> Usually I have to go to the
> >> ATM to get cash so that I can go and buy euro so that I can go rent a
> >> cart
> >
> > Why don't you use a plastic chip instead of a coin? I always do. One
> > cannot spend a plastic chip, so it is always there.
>
> What sort of plastic chip?

A coin-like piece of plastic (or very occasionally metal) of the exact
diameter of the needed coin (used to be 1 DM, now 1 euro, which are
exactly the same size). It is usually thinner than the coin, as
thickness apparently does not matter. The things are given out free by
a lot of organisations, including groceries and supermarkets, often as a
promotion. I have a boatload of them. One, from a bank, a metal one,
says "175 years (of the bank)". Cart coin mechanisms may differ, but
all require the same coin and are invariably mechanical, not electronic
or optical, so any coin-like round thing of the needed diameter works.

Victor

"Doug Weller" > wrote
> I agree completely. Most of the meat and poultry I buy is marked down
> stuff that I freeze immediately. I normally wouldn't buy from Aldi (except
> frozen goose breast if they did that).
>
I noticed whole frozen geese there yesterday at an excellent price. How do
you
do your goose?