Sheldon said...

> "Vilco" wrote:
>> Is it made with ground meat?
>> Which meat and how is it cooked?
>> Which ingredients along with the meat?
>
> Sovenly Guido is American chop suey minus the elbow macaroni.
>
>
> AMERICAN CHOP SUEY
>
> Sheldoni


Chop Suey is an Asian dish created in America for non-Asian Americans, iirc.
The translation into English is "Beggar's hash," or something close.

Andy

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:50:44 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:

>Sheldon said...
>
>> "Vilco" wrote:
>>> Is it made with ground meat?
>>> Which meat and how is it cooked?
>>> Which ingredients along with the meat?
>>
>> Sovenly Guido is American chop suey minus the elbow macaroni.
>>
>>
>> AMERICAN CHOP SUEY
>>
>> Sheldoni
>
>
>Chop Suey is an Asian dish created in America for non-Asian Americans, iirc.
>The translation into English is "Beggar's hash," or something close.
>
>Andy

And nothing like the recipe. I've never had Chop Suey in a Chinese
restaurant, but I distinctly remember it from the cans of Chung King
Chop Suey that my mother used to open for us.

Ugh anyway.


--

Ham and eggs.
A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig.

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> Sheldon said...
>
>> "Vilco" wrote:
>>> Is it made with ground meat?
>>> Which meat and how is it cooked?
>>> Which ingredients along with the meat?
>>
>> Sovenly Guido is American chop suey minus the elbow macaroni.
>>
>>
>> AMERICAN CHOP SUEY
>>
>> Sheldoni
>
>
> Chop Suey is an Asian dish created in America for non-Asian Americans,
> iirc.
> The translation into English is "Beggar's hash," or something close.
>
> Andy

American Chop Suey is a New England thing. Mac 'n meat. Nothing Asian
about it. No idea where the name came from though!

Paco's Tacos wrote:
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> Sheldon said...
>>
>>> "Vilco" wrote:
>>>> Is it made with ground meat?
>>>> Which meat and how is it cooked?
>>>> Which ingredients along with the meat?
>>> Sovenly Guido is American chop suey minus the elbow macaroni.
>>>
>>>
>>> AMERICAN CHOP SUEY
>>>
>>> Sheldoni
>>
>> Chop Suey is an Asian dish created in America for non-Asian Americans,
>> iirc.
>> The translation into English is "Beggar's hash," or something close.
>>
>> Andy
>
> American Chop Suey is a New England thing. Mac 'n meat. Nothing Asian
> about it. No idea where the name came from though!
>
>


In the South, we called it "goulash". (and it has nothing to do with
the Hungarian dish by the same name)

Bob

zxcvbob wrote:
> Paco's Tacos wrote:
>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Sheldon said...
>>>
>>>> "Vilco" wrote:
>>>>> Is it made with ground meat?
>>>>> Which meat and how is it cooked?
>>>>> Which ingredients along with the meat?
>>>> Sovenly Guido is American chop suey minus the elbow macaroni.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> AMERICAN CHOP SUEY
>>>>
>>>> Sheldoni
>>>
>>> Chop Suey is an Asian dish created in America for non-Asian
>>> Americans, iirc.
>>> The translation into English is "Beggar's hash," or something close.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> American Chop Suey is a New England thing. Mac 'n meat. Nothing
>> Asian about it. No idea where the name came from though!
>>
>
> In the South, we called it "goulash". (and it has nothing to do with
> the Hungarian dish by the same name)
>
> Bob

I remember being invited to a friends' house for dinner one night. She said
she was making goulash. Naturally I thought of Hungarian Goulash and my
taste buds were all set for it. Turned out to be a macaroni & hamburger
casserole. Hmmm.

On Sep 8, 1:15�pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> zxcvbob wrote:
> > Paco's Tacos wrote:
> >> "Andy" <q> wrote in message
> ...
> >>> Sheldon said...
>
> >>>> "Vilco" wrote:
> >>>>> Is it made with ground meat?
> >>>>> Which meat and how is it cooked?
> >>>>> Which ingredients along with the meat?
> >>>> Sovenly Guido is American chop suey minus the elbow macaroni.
>
> >>>> AMERICAN CHOP SUEY
>
> >>>> Sheldoni
>
> >>> Chop Suey is an Asian dish created in America for non-Asian
> >>> Americans, iirc.
> >>> The translation into English is "Beggar's hash," or something close.
>
> >>> Andy
>
> >> American Chop Suey is a New England thing. *Mac 'n meat. *Nothing
> >> Asian about it. *No idea where the name came from though!
>
> > In the South, we called it "goulash". *(and it has nothing to do with
> > the Hungarian dish by the same name)
>
> > Bob
>
> I remember being invited to a friends' house for dinner one night. *She said
> she was making goulash. *Naturally I thought of Hungarian Goulash and my
> taste buds were all set for it. *Turned out to be a macaroni & hamburger
> casserole. *Hmmm.

Your host didn't say "Hungarian Goulash" but technically you were
served a goulash, hog slop is a goulash.

gou�lash
noun
Etymology: Hungarian guly�s, short for guly�sh�s, literally,
herdsman's meat
1 : a stew made with meat (as beef), assorted vegetables, and paprika
2 : a round in bridge played with hands produced by a redistribution
of previously dealt cards
---> 3 : a mixture of heterogeneous elements : JUMBLE
---

Sheldon

Sheldon wrote:
> On Sep 8, 1:15?pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>
>> I remember being invited to a friends' house for dinner one night.
>> She said she was making goulash. Naturally I thought of Hungarian
>> Goulash and my taste buds were all set for it. Turned out to be a
>> macaroni & hamburger casserole. Hmmm.
>
> Your host didn't say "Hungarian Goulash" but technically you were
> served a goulash, hog slop is a goulash.
>
> gou?lash
> noun
> Etymology: Hungarian guly?s, short for guly?sh?s, literally,
> herdsman's meat
> 1 : a stew made with meat (as beef), assorted vegetables, and paprika
> 2 : a round in bridge played with hands produced by a redistribution
> of previously dealt cards
> ---> 3 : a mixture of heterogeneous elements : JUMBLE
> ---
>
> Sheldon

No, she didn't say "Hungarian Goulash". But since I'm not originally from
the southern U.S. I had never heard of this macaroni hamburger concoction
before, let alone heard it called goulash! I never had it when we lived in
South Carolina, either. Maybe it should be called Jumble, instead!

Jill

On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 11:13:39 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>Sheldon wrote:
>> On Sep 8, 1:15?pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>>
>>> I remember being invited to a friends' house for dinner one night.
>>> She said she was making goulash. Naturally I thought of Hungarian
>>> Goulash and my taste buds were all set for it. Turned out to be a
>>> macaroni & hamburger casserole. Hmmm.
>>
>> Your host didn't say "Hungarian Goulash" but technically you were
>> served a goulash, hog slop is a goulash.
>>
>> gou?lash
>> noun
>> Etymology: Hungarian guly?s, short for guly?sh?s, literally,
>> herdsman's meat
>> 1 : a stew made with meat (as beef), assorted vegetables, and paprika
>> 2 : a round in bridge played with hands produced by a redistribution
>> of previously dealt cards
>> ---> 3 : a mixture of heterogeneous elements : JUMBLE
>> ---
>>
>> Sheldon
>
>No, she didn't say "Hungarian Goulash". But since I'm not originally from
>the southern U.S. I had never heard of this macaroni hamburger concoction
>before, let alone heard it called goulash! I never had it when we lived in
>South Carolina, either. Maybe it should be called Jumble, instead

My mother made this a lot and she called it goulash. The recipe was
printed in some magazine in the 1950s by a tomato sauce company which
I do not recall. Hamburger cooked with onions and bell pepper, tomato
sauce added, then elbow macaroni, maybe something else. I don't know
what spices she used, but she didn't know about paprika except as a
decoration for deviled eggs.

One time on Usenet, "jmcquown" > said:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > On Sep 8, 1:15?pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> >>
> >> I remember being invited to a friends' house for dinner one night.
> >> She said she was making goulash. Naturally I thought of Hungarian
> >> Goulash and my taste buds were all set for it. Turned out to be a
> >> macaroni & hamburger casserole. Hmmm.
> >
> > Your host didn't say "Hungarian Goulash" but technically you were
> > served a goulash, hog slop is a goulash.
> >
> > gou?lash
> > noun
> > Etymology: Hungarian guly?s, short for guly?sh?s, literally,
> > herdsman's meat
> > 1 : a stew made with meat (as beef), assorted vegetables, and paprika
> > 2 : a round in bridge played with hands produced by a redistribution
> > of previously dealt cards
> > ---> 3 : a mixture of heterogeneous elements : JUMBLE

> No, she didn't say "Hungarian Goulash". But since I'm not originally from
> the southern U.S. I had never heard of this macaroni hamburger concoction
> before, let alone heard it called goulash! I never had it when we lived in
> South Carolina, either. Maybe it should be called Jumble, instead!

My MidWestern-born gramma used to make what she called "goulash"
(not Hungarian) that consisted of hamburger, macaroni, onions,
tomato something (this was a long time ago), etc. I loved it, but
unfortunately, no one in the family ever learned how she made it.
I've tried, but it's not the same. In any case, I like the term
"jumble" better too...

--
Jani in WA

Andy wrote:
> Sheldon said...
>
> > "Vilco" wrote:
> >> Is it made with ground meat?
> >> Which meat and how is it cooked?
> >> Which ingredients along with the meat?
>
> > Sovenly Guido is American chop suey minus the elbow macaroni.
>
> > AMERICAN CHOP SUEY
>
> > Sheldoni
>
> Chop Suey is an Asian dish created in America for non-Asian Americans, iirc.
> The translation into English is "Beggar's hash," or something close.

There's is nothing Asian about any chop suey.... the chop suey sold in
American Chinese restaurants doesn't exist in China

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Chop_Suey

Sheldon

Sheldon said...

> Andy wrote:
>> Sheldon said...
>>
>> > "Vilco" wrote:
>> >> Is it made with ground meat?
>> >> Which meat and how is it cooked?
>> >> Which ingredients along with the meat?
>>
>> > Sovenly Guido is American chop suey minus the elbow macaroni.
>>
>> > AMERICAN CHOP SUEY
>>
>> > Sheldoni
>>
>> Chop Suey is an Asian dish created in America for non-Asian Americans,
>> iirc. The translation into English is "Beggar's hash," or something
>> close.
>
> There's is nothing Asian about any chop suey.... the chop suey sold in
> American Chinese restaurants doesn't exist in China
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Chop_Suey
>
> Sheldon


Sheldon,

That's what I thought I said. I thought it was created by the Chinese
restaurateurs in San Francisco's Chinatown to entice non-Asian Americans to
get a taste of a simpler cuisine that didn't come close to matching their
exotic dishes. "Get 'em in the door" so to speak.

Maybe it was chow mein?!? I forget. I saw it on FTV once.

Andy