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I read recently that there is yet again ANOTHER case of thousands
being sickened by salmonella in the peanut butter. How the hell does
this happen? Heat would kill the bacteria, and from my understanding,
the peanut butter is homogonized or pasturized, or something.
Processed at high temperatures.

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On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:02:51 -0700, The Space Boss
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>I read recently that there is yet again ANOTHER case of thousands
>being sickened by salmonella in the peanut butter. How the hell does
>this happen? Heat would kill the bacteria, and from my understanding,
>the peanut butter is homogonized or pasturized, or something.
>Processed at high temperatures.


The source was a broken sprinkler system which dripped from a leaky
roof onto the line filling the jars. As with most problems in our food
supply, file this one under "maximaze output--minimize expenses".

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On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:44:05 -0400, raymond > wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:02:51 -0700, The Space Boss
> wrote:
>
>>I read recently that there is yet again ANOTHER case of thousands
>>being sickened by salmonella in the peanut butter. How the hell does
>>this happen? Heat would kill the bacteria, and from my understanding,
>>the peanut butter is homogonized or pasturized, or something.
>>Processed at high temperatures.

>
>The source was a broken sprinkler system which dripped from a leaky
>roof onto the line filling the jars. As with most problems in our food
>supply, file this one under "maximaze output--minimize expenses".



Yep, it's the american way. Forget the old " a quality product at a reasonable price "
..

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>Yep, it's the american way. Forget the old " a quality product at a reasonable price "


Henry Ford must be turning over in his grave.

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> The source was a broken sprinkler system which dripped from a leaky
> roof onto the line filling the jars. As with most problems in our food
> supply, file this one under "maximaze output--minimize expenses".


Thanks for the info. I wonder what recourse the average citizen has
against this company?




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The Space Boss wrote:

> On Jun 3, 7:44 am, raymond > wrote:
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> > The source was a broken sprinkler system which dripped from a leaky
> > roof onto the line filling the jars. As with most problems in our
> > food supply, file this one under "maximaze output--minimize
> > expenses".

>
> Thanks for the info. I wonder what recourse the average citizen has
> against this company?


What do you mean? Were you injured in some way?



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On Jun 3, 8:43 pm, "Default User" > wrote:
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> > On Jun 3, 7:44 am, raymond > wrote:

>
> > > The source was a broken sprinkler system which dripped from a leaky
> > > roof onto the line filling the jars. As with most problems in our
> > > food supply, file this one under "maximaze output--minimize
> > > expenses".

>
> > Thanks for the info. I wonder what recourse the average citizen has
> > against this company?

>
> What do you mean? Were you injured in some way?
>


No.. not me, even though I DO worry about the peanut butter and
crackers I buy my wife, and the peanut butter "Protien bars" that I
eat... But I remember reading reports during the last PB recall where
people became very, very ill. Can these people sue the company
directly? I know class actions are organized, but I think all the
people get what? $1.66 each after expenses? Hardly worth any effort.

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Larry LaMere wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:44:05 -0400, raymond > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:02:51 -0700, The Space Boss
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I read recently that there is yet again ANOTHER case of thousands
>>> being sickened by salmonella in the peanut butter. How the hell does
>>> this happen? Heat would kill the bacteria, and from my understanding,
>>> the peanut butter is homogonized or pasturized, or something.
>>> Processed at high temperatures.

>> The source was a broken sprinkler system which dripped from a leaky
>> roof onto the line filling the jars. As with most problems in our food
>> supply, file this one under "maximaze output--minimize expenses".

>
>
> Yep, it's the american way. Forget the old " a quality product at a reasonable price "
> .
>

Sure, and isn't every Walmart purchase a vote that declares "cheap is
good - so keep doing whatever you need to do to make things cheap"?
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On 3 juin, 00:02, The Space Boss > wrote:
> I read recently that there is yet again ANOTHER case of thousands
> being sickened by salmonella in the peanut butter. How the hell does
> this happen? Heat would kill the bacteria, and from my understanding,
> the peanut butter is homogonized or pasturized, or something.
> Processed at high temperatures.


The amount of entry points for contamination in most food production
chains is amazing. There are many systems existing to counter these
situations:eg HACCP, but some companies do not comply with these
rules. Factors leading to bad situations are numerous; laziness,
ignorance, disrespect of human health and very often for financial
considerations. Compliance can be expensive. Also, try to visit some
hotels and restaurants kitchens. Talk to people delivering food
products to some of these establishments. You might elect to eat home
more often.

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On Jun 4, 6:57 am, George > wrote:
> Larry LaMere wrote:
> > On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:44:05 -0400, raymond > wrote:

>
> >> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:02:51 -0700, The Space Boss
> >> > wrote:

>
> >>> I read recently that there is yet again ANOTHER case of thousands
> >>> being sickened by salmonella in the peanut butter. How the hell does
> >>> this happen? Heat would kill the bacteria, and from my understanding,
> >>> the peanut butter is homogonized or pasturized, or something.
> >>> Processed at high temperatures.
> >> The source was a broken sprinkler system which dripped from a leaky
> >> roof onto the line filling the jars. As with most problems in our food
> >> supply, file this one under "maximaze output--minimize expenses".

>
> > Yep, it's the american way. Forget the old " a quality product at a reasonable price "
> > .

>
> Sure, and isn't every Walmart purchase a vote that declares "cheap is
> good - so keep doing whatever you need to do to make things cheap"?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Sam Walton built Walmart with his hands with good old American
gumption. Don't forget that.



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> On Jun 4, 6:57 am, George > wrote:
> > Sure, and isn't every Walmart purchase a vote that declares "cheap
> > is
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> > - Show quoted text -

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> Sam Walton built Walmart with his hands with good old American
> gumption. Don't forget that.


Then he died.
Then Wal-Mart started the cheaper-is-better-screw-the-customer attitude.
Then they started the "up to 22% of a trademarked solution added to preserve
freshness and flavor" bullshit.

BOB


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On Jun 4, 9:07 pm, " BOB" > wrote:

> Then they started the "up to 22% of a trademarked solution added to preserve
> freshness and flavor" bullshit.


I don't know what this means? Explain please?

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In article >, sf says...
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 10:30:45 -0400, Larry LaMere >
> wrote:
>
> >Yep, it's the american way. Forget the old " a quality product at a reasonable price "

>
> Henry Ford must be turning over in his grave.
>
>



From the recent performance of the Ford Motor Company, I can tell you
that old Henry is spinning so quickly that if you hooked him up to a
generator, he'd supply all the power necessary to keep the U.S. lit up
for a few thousand years.

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