Yan Kee Doo-Duhl wrote:

>> With the ban, France joins the ranks of Italy, Spain, Belgium,
>> Britain and Ireland, which already have enacted broad anti-smoking
>> laws.

> Bravo! I'm going to eat some Freedom Fries to celebrate.

Yes, it's a nice thing. I can't even remember how did I stood for so long
our smoke filled restaurants and bars. Now, thank god, it's smoke free.
--
Vilco
Think pink, drink rose'

For the time being, restaurants, bars and discos are not included in the
ban. The current deadline for them is Jan 1 2008 but whether it actually
happens will be interesting. Sale of Tobacco is highly regulated here
and in some villages only the local bar has a licence to sell it, how
you can sell something that you can't use on the premises is a a good
question to try and answer. I don't smoke and would welcome a smoke
free bar but I do understand the pain that the owners will to go through
having paid a lot of money to have the licence to sell tobacco. Without
that income will their business still be viable ?

Steve



Vilco wrote:
> Yan Kee Doo-Duhl wrote:
>
>>> With the ban, France joins the ranks of Italy, Spain, Belgium,
>>> Britain and Ireland, which already have enacted broad anti-smoking
>>> laws.
>
>> Bravo! I'm going to eat some Freedom Fries to celebrate.
>
> Yes, it's a nice thing. I can't even remember how did I stood for so long
> our smoke filled restaurants and bars. Now, thank god, it's smoke free.

On Feb 2, 12:25 pm, Steve Y > wrote:
> For the time being, restaurants, bars and discos are not included in the
> ban. The current deadline for them is Jan 1 2008 but whether it actually
> happens will be interesting. Sale of Tobacco is highly regulated here
> and in some villages only the local bar has a licence to sell it, how
> you can sell something that you can't use on the premises is a a good
> question to try and answer. I don't smoke and would welcome a smoke
> free bar but I do understand the pain that the owners will to go through
> having paid a lot of money to have the licence to sell tobacco. Without
> that income will their business still be viable ?
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> Vilco wrote:
> > Yan Kee Doo-Duhl wrote:
>
> >>> With the ban, France joins the ranks of Italy, Spain, Belgium,
> >>> Britain and Ireland, which already have enacted broad anti-smoking
> >>> laws.
>
> >> Bravo! I'm going to eat some Freedom Fries to celebrate.
>
> > Yes, it's a nice thing. I can't even remember how did I stood for so long
> > our smoke filled restaurants and bars. Now, thank god, it's smoke free.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

My city has been smoke-free in all restaurants and bars for a few
years now -- restaurants make their big money from the liquor they
sell. Getting rid of smokers will help them, not hurt them, if their
experience in France is anything like here. The restaurateurs all
thought they would lose a lot of their customers, but it's been the
opposite.

N.

> Getting rid of smokers will help them, not hurt them, if their
> experience in France is anything like here. The restaurateurs all
> thought they would lose a lot of their customers, but it's been the
> opposite.

Not sure of which country you are in but France still has a very high
percentage of smokers. In our local village bar, probably more than 50%
of the people smoke. It is going to be very interesting so see what
happens

Steve

In article >, Steve Y > wrote:
>For the time being, restaurants, bars and discos are not included in the
>ban. The current deadline for them is Jan 1 2008 but whether it actually
>happens will be interesting. Sale of Tobacco is highly regulated here
>and in some villages only the local bar has a licence to sell it, how
>you can sell something that you can't use on the premises is a a good
>question to try and answer. I don't smoke and would welcome a smoke
>free bar but I do understand the pain that the owners will to go through
>having paid a lot of money to have the licence to sell tobacco. Without
>that income will their business still be viable ?

Here in Oz, the pubs have provided "outdoor" seating for the addicts
(but we do have the advantage -- at least where I am -- of being in a
warm climate . It's a bit of a ******* actually, because the bloody
smokers now get the best seats in the house -- it's illegal to serve
food in smoking areas, so if you want a counter meal you now have to
sit inside to eat it! I suppose some of the bigger establishments can
have separate outdoor areas, but in this town, at "my" pub, the
outdoor seating is a narrow patio along the footpath and it used to be
a great spot to sit with a beer and nibbles in the evening.

>Vilco wrote:
>> Yan Kee Doo-Duhl wrote:
>>
>>>> With the ban, France joins the ranks of Italy, Spain, Belgium,
>>>> Britain and Ireland, which already have enacted broad anti-smoking
>>>> laws.
>>
>>> Bravo! I'm going to eat some Freedom Fries to celebrate.
>>
>> Yes, it's a nice thing. I can't even remember how did I stood for so long
>> our smoke filled restaurants and bars. Now, thank god, it's smoke free.

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID