"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> I definitely don't put tomatoes in stew... why do people do that? It's
> not
> chili!
>
> Jill
>

I thought I was the only one that didn't put tomatoes in stew. I also don't
care for floured meat so I just brown mine.


Ms P

Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 00:00:45 -0500, "Nancy Young" >
> wrote:
>
> >Sounds good to me, although usually I don't put tomato in stew.
> >Don't they cook down?
>
> Tomato is a fruit, doncha know?

Yes, in a botanical sense... so is pepper, eggplant, squash, green
beans, etc.
But fruit is also vegetable. Of course some fruit is meaty, as in
check out the melons on that one! hehe

Sheldon

On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 08:22:05 -0600, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>I definitely don't put tomatoes in stew... why do people do that? It's not
>chili!
>
>Jill

Cause it tastes good?

Christine

On 1 Nov 2006 06:52:58 -0800, "Sheldon" > wrote:

>
>Christine Dabney wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 00:00:45 -0500, "Nancy Young" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Sounds good to me, although usually I don't put tomato in stew.
>> >Don't they cook down?
>>
>> Tomato is a fruit, doncha know?
>
>Yes, in a botanical sense... so is pepper, eggplant, squash, green
>beans, etc.
>But fruit is also vegetable. Of course some fruit is meaty, as in
>check out the melons on that one! hehe
>
>Sheldon

I was just kidding with Nancy. She has this thing about meat with
fruit...so I was just ribbing her a bit.

Christine

Dave Smith wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>>
>> I definitely don't put tomatoes in stew... why do people do that?
>> It's not chili!
>
> About a tablespoon of tomato paste is good in stew, but no more
> than that.

I'll give you that, and only for colouring. A tbs. of tomato paste doesn't
do more than that

ms_peacock wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I definitely don't put tomatoes in stew... why do people do that?
>> It's not
>> chili!
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
> I thought I was the only one that didn't put tomatoes in stew. I
> also don't care for floured meat so I just brown mine.
>
>
> Ms P

If I'm making a vegetable beef soup I'll add diced tomatoes. If I'm making
beef stew, no tomatoes. Maybe it's the way I was raised, I don't know.
Just wasn't brought up on tomatoes in beef stew

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

>
> I definitely don't put tomatoes in stew... why do people do that? It's not
> chili!

About a tablespoon of tomato paste is good in stew, but no more
than that.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Nancy Young wrote:
> > "Mr Libido Incognito" > wrote
> >
> >> Nancy Young wrote on 31 Oct 2006 in rec.food.cooking
> >
> >>> Heck no, no chocolate in chili, no chocolate in stew.
> >>>
> >>> No bananas, no raisins, no .......
> >
> >> I put grapes in my stew...Grape Tomatoes. The flavour when you burst
> >> one in
> >> your mouth is fantastic.
> >
> > Sounds good to me, although usually I don't put tomato in stew.
> > Don't they cook down?
> >
> > nancy
>
> I definitely don't put tomatoes in stew... why do people do that? It's
not
> chili!
>
> Jill
>
>
The acid in the tomato marry's the other ingredients and pulls them
together.
Real chili doesn't have any tomatoes in it either.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message

> I definitely don't put tomatoes in stew... why do people do that?
It's not
> chili!

One of the South African delicacies is a tomato stew (or "bredie" as
we call stews in Afrikaans). Usually made with mutton, onions and
tomatoes only, but some people add cabbage as well. It is
delicious.


--
Moira de Swardt posting from Johannesburg, South Africa
Remove the dot in my address to find me at home.

jmcquown wrote:
> ms_peacock wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I definitely don't put tomatoes in stew... why do people do that?
>>> It's not
>>> chili!
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>> I thought I was the only one that didn't put tomatoes in stew. I
>> also don't care for floured meat so I just brown mine.
>>
>>
>> Ms P
>
> If I'm making a vegetable beef soup I'll add diced tomatoes. If I'm making
> beef stew, no tomatoes. Maybe it's the way I was raised, I don't know.
> Just wasn't brought up on tomatoes in beef stew
>
> Jill
>
>


Lord, if we all stuck to eating and cooking what we were brought up with
we would set a boring table, fer sure.

Let your hair down and experiment, for goodness sake. (You might even
LIKE it!!!)

gloria p

Muddle wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>> "Mr Libido Incognito" > wrote
>>>
>>>> Nancy Young wrote on 31 Oct 2006 in rec.food.cooking
>>>
>>>>> Heck no, no chocolate in chili, no chocolate in stew.
>>>>>
>>>>> No bananas, no raisins, no .......
>>>
>>>> I put grapes in my stew...Grape Tomatoes. The flavour when you
>>>> burst one in
>>>> your mouth is fantastic.
>>>
>>> Sounds good to me, although usually I don't put tomato in stew.
>>> Don't they cook down?
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>> I definitely don't put tomatoes in stew... why do people do that?
>> It's not chili!
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
> The acid in the tomato marry's the other ingredients and pulls them
> together.
> Real chili doesn't have any tomatoes in it either.

This is not the time to get into a "real chili" debate. Beef stew doesn't
contain tomatoes, sorry, BZZZZZZT!

Moira de Swardt wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
>> I definitely don't put tomatoes in stew... why do people do that?
>> It's not chili!
>
> One of the South African delicacies is a tomato stew (or "bredie" as
> we call stews in Afrikaans). Usually made with mutton, onions and
> tomatoes only, but some people add cabbage as well. It is
> delicious.

Cabbage stew is completely different from American beef stew. I do love a
good cabbage soup with tomatoes

jmcquown wrote on 01 Nov 2006 in rec.food.cooking

> This is not the time to get into a "real chili" debate. Beef stew
> doesn't contain tomatoes, sorry, BZZZZZZT!
>
>

Mine does. And garlic and pearl onions...but no potatoes. Some carrot and
peas but no corn.

Mr Libido Incognito wrote:
> jmcquown wrote on 01 Nov 2006 in rec.food.cooking
>
>> This is not the time to get into a "real chili" debate. Beef stew
>> doesn't contain tomatoes, sorry, BZZZZZZT!
>>
>>
>
> Mine does. And garlic and pearl onions...but no potatoes. Some carrot and
> peas but no corn.

Here is one from Penzey's that sounded so good I clipped the recipe:

* Exported from MasterCook *

Beef Stew with Mustard Dumplings

Recipe By :Penzeys Spice Co.
Serving Size : Preparation Time :3:00
Categories : Beef Soups & Stews

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
2 pounds chuck roast -- 1 inch cubes
2 tablespoons olive or canola oil
1/2 cup all-purpose flour
8 ounces tomato sauce
2 cups beef stock
2 bay leaves
1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper
1/2 teaspoon marjoram
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon granulated garlic
1/2 teaspoon thyme
1/2 teaspoon parsley flakes
1 tablespoon Penzeys Beef Roast Seasoning
1 medium onion -- chopped
1 pound carrots -- peeled, 1/2 " slices

1 cup all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon baking powder
1/2 teaspoon celery seed
1 teaspoon regular mustard powder
1 teaspoon parsley flakes
1/4 teaspoon onion powder
1/3 cup milk
1 egg
1 tablespoon melted butter

Heat the oil in a large heavy stock pot. Roll the meat in flour and
shake off excess. Brown the meat in the pot. White meat is browning,
mix the tomato sauce, beef stock, bay leaves, pepper, marjoram, salt,
garlic, thyme, parsley and beef roast seasoning together in a bowl.
Once meat is browned, arrange the onions and carrots over the meat. Add
the stock. Partially cover the pot and simmer gently for about 2 hours.
While the stew is simmering, make dumpling dough: Sift together flour
and baking powder. Add the ground celery seed, mustard, parsley and
onion powder to the flour mixture. In a separate bowl mix the milk and
beaten egg, then combine with the flour mixture. Add the melted butter
and stir to blend. The dough should be soft not sticky. On a lightly
floured surface roll out the dough to about 1/4 " thickness. Cut dough
with a very small ring cutter. Once the stew has simmered for 2 hours,
drop the dumplings into the stew. Cover and simmer for 10 minutes and
serve.

"Puester" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> If I'm making a vegetable beef soup I'll add diced tomatoes. If I'm
>> making
>> beef stew, no tomatoes. Maybe it's the way I was raised, I don't know.
>> Just wasn't brought up on tomatoes in beef stew
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
>
>
> Lord, if we all stuck to eating and cooking what we were brought up with
> we would set a boring table, fer sure.
>
> Let your hair down and experiment, for goodness sake. (You might even
> LIKE it!!!)
>
> gloria p

You know, I have no idea how my mother made beef stew. She may have put
tomatoes in it. I don't like tomato of any kind in my stew and that's why
I leave it out. If you want to have tomatoes in your stew you are welcome
to do so, just don't expect me to eat it or like it.

Ms P

jmcquown wrote:
>

> >>
> >> I definitely don't put tomatoes in stew... why do people do that?
> >> It's not chili!
> >>
> >> Jill
> >>
> >>
> > The acid in the tomato marry's the other ingredients and pulls them
> > together.
> > Real chili doesn't have any tomatoes in it either.
>
> This is not the time to get into a "real chili" debate. Beef stew doesn't
> contain tomatoes, sorry, BZZZZZZT!

Stew is a style of cooking, and anything can go in it. Chicken
Chausser is a chicken stew, and it has tomatoes, like it's
Italian cousin cacciatore. Some beef stew recipes call for
tomato. I prefer it with just a little tomato paste. Too much
tomato paste or too much carrot will ruin the taste of my stew,
but it takes a heck of a lot more carrot to overdo it than tomato
paste.

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:12:10 GMT, Puester >
wrote:

>Lord, if we all stuck to eating and cooking what we were brought up with
>we would set a boring table, fer sure.
>
>Let your hair down and experiment, for goodness sake. (You might even
>LIKE it!!!)
>
>gloria p

Thank You Gloria. My Grandmother's menu consisted of less than 10
dishes. My mom's wasn't much better. Today sometimes I even do some
googling to see what I can do with what's in the fridge as I'm not
fond of leftovers and don't like eating the same think two days in a
row.

Lou

On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 16:57:03 -0600, "ms_peacock"
> wrote:

> If you want to have tomatoes in your stew you are welcome
>to do so, just don't expect me to eat it or like it.
>
>Ms P
>
Who invited you anyway? I've enjoyed this thread because I like
reading different ideas.

Lou

In ,
jmcquown > typed:
> It's starting to get a little chilly, although at this time of year
> in W. TN
> the temps bounce up and down. It's still in the low 70's most days.
> But it
> won't be long before I'm craving a nice beef stew.
>
> My (Scottish) grandmother, whose recipe I don't have, used chuck
> roast (as
> do I) but she never added any vegetable other than potatoes. I've
> no idea
> what seasonings (for all I know it was just salt & pepper). It had
> a very
> rich, thick, almost gravy-like consistency. My (German)
> grandmother's stew
> was really more like a vegetable beef soup, not at all thick, very
> brothy.
> She used something akin to round steak but thicker (cubed) and added
> the
> usual suspects: potatoes, carrots, celery, onion, etc.
>
> I'm wondering what your favourite recipe for this wintry concoction
> might
> be!
>
> Jill

You wouldn't like some of the things that I'd put in it, so I won't be
posting it.

You ask for ideas, then whine about tha answers that you receive.
What a Super-Shit-Head.

BOB

On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:11:47 -0500, " BOB" > wrote:


>You wouldn't like some of the things that I'd put in it, so I won't be
>posting it.

I'm enjoying this thread. I've saved all the post and i'm going to
try to make stew. As much cooking as I've done I'm a beef stew
virgin. I'd enjoy reading your ideas. (please)

>You ask for ideas, then whine about tha answers that you receive.
>What a Super-Shit-Head.

I pointed that out in another thread. Her usenet persona is rather
unpleasant

Lou

Mr Libido Incognito wrote:
> jmcquown wrote on 01 Nov 2006 in rec.food.cooking
>
>> This is not the time to get into a "real chili" debate. Beef stew
>> doesn't contain tomatoes, sorry, BZZZZZZT!
>>
>>
>
> Mine does. And garlic and pearl onions...but no potatoes. Some carrot
> and peas but no corn.

No corn, no tomatoes and no peas. Sorry!

Puester wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> ms_peacock wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I definitely don't put tomatoes in stew... why do people do that?
>>>> It's not
>>>> chili!
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>> I thought I was the only one that didn't put tomatoes in stew. I
>>> also don't care for floured meat so I just brown mine.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ms P
>>
>> If I'm making a vegetable beef soup I'll add diced tomatoes. If I'm
>> making beef stew, no tomatoes. Maybe it's the way I was raised, I
>> don't know. Just wasn't brought up on tomatoes in beef stew
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
>
>
> Lord, if we all stuck to eating and cooking what we were brought up
> with we would set a boring table, fer sure.
>
> Let your hair down and experiment, for goodness sake. (You might even
> LIKE it!!!)
>
> gloria p

Yeah, and maybe I'll like having grey hair. But then again, maybe I'll keep
investing in Loreal. No peas in my beef stew, either! NOT, no way, sorry,
see ya! LOL

Jill

Oh pshaw, on Thu 02 Nov 2006 08:04:28a, jmcquown meant to say...

> Puester wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> ms_peacock wrote:
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> I definitely don't put tomatoes in stew... why do people do that?
>>>>> It's not
>>>>> chili!
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>> I thought I was the only one that didn't put tomatoes in stew. I
>>>> also don't care for floured meat so I just brown mine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ms P
>>>
>>> If I'm making a vegetable beef soup I'll add diced tomatoes. If I'm
>>> making beef stew, no tomatoes. Maybe it's the way I was raised, I
>>> don't know. Just wasn't brought up on tomatoes in beef stew
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Lord, if we all stuck to eating and cooking what we were brought up
>> with we would set a boring table, fer sure.
>>
>> Let your hair down and experiment, for goodness sake. (You might even
>> LIKE it!!!)
>>
>> gloria p
>
> Yeah, and maybe I'll like having grey hair. But then again, maybe I'll
> keep investing in Loreal. No peas in my beef stew, either! NOT, no
> way, sorry, see ya! LOL

Well, I must have missed it, but just what *is* iin your beef stew, Jill?
You've eliminated several of the things I like.

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

That's one small step for a man, and a thousand
huge ones for a millipede.

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message

> Thank You Gloria. My Grandmother's menu consisted of less than 10
> dishes. My mom's wasn't much better. Today sometimes I even do
some
> googling to see what I can do with what's in the fridge as I'm not
> fond of leftovers and don't like eating the same think two days in
a
> row.

I've often wondered about this phenomenon. It's a scary thought
that most households run like this, yet it is easy to fall into this
type of planning. One has a job, a home and a family to juggle, and
the children don't like to eat new things and a husband who doesn't
eat x or y, and before one knows it the pattern is established. I
watched it happen in my sister's home. The only thing that saved
them from complete foodie disablement is that she and her husband
are both interested in cooking and food and they signed up for a
cooking course together which runs theme afternoon/evenings once a
month (at a hideously high price) which gets them cooking some
exotic stuff which they prepare again at home for themselves and
their selected guests. As a single person I have a range of about
10 things that I prepare again and again. Cooking for one is a
hassle.

--
Moira de Swardt posting from Johannesburg, South Africa
Remove the dot in my address to find me at home.

Moira de Swardt wrote on 02 Nov 2006 in rec.food.cooking

> Cooking for one is a
> hassle.
>

Cook for 2...eat the meal dinner for lunch the next day.

Lou Decruss wrote:
>
> Thank You Gloria. My Grandmother's menu consisted of less than 10
> dishes. My mom's wasn't much better. Today sometimes I even do some
> googling to see what I can do with what's in the fridge as I'm not
> fond of leftovers and don't like eating the same think two days in a
> row.

One of my grandmothers had a repertoire of about 7 dishes, one
for each night of the week. You could tell what day it was by
what was served for dinner. There were few changes to her daily
menus. I had more variety at my other grandparents, though it was
my grandfather who did most of the cooking there. My mother was
an even more adventurous cook than her parents, and I am more
adventurous than my mother. I used to use recipes, but most of
my meals these days come out of my head, relying on old recipes I
have tried or seen in magazines or cooking shows and adjusted as
I go.

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:51:23 GMT, in rec.food.cooking, Mr Libido Incognito
wrote:

>jmcquown wrote on 01 Nov 2006 in rec.food.cooking
>
>> This is not the time to get into a "real chili" debate. Beef stew
>> doesn't contain tomatoes, sorry, BZZZZZZT!
>>
>>
>
>Mine does. And garlic and pearl onions...but no potatoes. Some carrot and
>peas but no corn.

Hoisin sauce. Celery.

Doug
--
Doug Weller --
A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com
Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk
Amun - co-owner/co-moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:09:31 -0600, in rec.food.cooking, jmcquown wrote:

>Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:53:07 -0600, "jmcquown"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> I know you don't like c*****s, so I won't recommend them.
>
>"Carrots" is not a bad word, silly! I just don't like to eat them. I do
>use them to add flavour. I only fish them out of my bowl you goofy gal!
>
It's 'cooked carrots' that is swearing.

Doug
--
Doug Weller --
A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com
Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk
Amun - co-owner/co-moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/

Doug Weller wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:09:31 -0600, in rec.food.cooking, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:53:07 -0600, "jmcquown"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I know you don't like c*****s, so I won't recommend them.
>> "Carrots" is not a bad word, silly! I just don't like to eat them. I do
>> use them to add flavour. I only fish them out of my bowl you goofy gal!
>>
> It's 'cooked carrots' that is swearing.
>
> Doug


My grandson came home from pre-school last year (after his first
exposure to cooked carrots there) saying "Grandma, hot carrots
are NOT GOOD for boys!"

gloria p

On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:07:16 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>>
>> Thank You Gloria. My Grandmother's menu consisted of less than 10
>> dishes. My mom's wasn't much better. Today sometimes I even do some
>> googling to see what I can do with what's in the fridge as I'm not
>> fond of leftovers and don't like eating the same think two days in a
>> row.
>
>One of my grandmothers had a repertoire of about 7 dishes, one
>for each night of the week. You could tell what day it was by
>what was served for dinner. There were few changes to her daily
>menus.

For mine it was a case of different times and cultures. They were
farmers and ate what they grew. Very few things came from a store.
The meals depended on what crop or animal was ready so the menu varies
a bit by season. But there was little variation. Chicken, ham, beef,
veggies were all done the same way. Boring, but that's what they knew
I guess.

>I had more variety at my other grandparents, though it was
>my grandfather who did most of the cooking there.

My other set of Grandparents were the ones you "didn't go for the
food." She was a Chicago "city girl" transplanted out to a farm
when they married in the early 1920's. They were poor as most
farmers were so she did have to learn a bit, but most of what she made
was horrible. For Christmas eve we had greasy Swedish meatballs,
potato salad, cold cuts and frozen raspberries over ice cream every
year until she passed away. Luckily by the time I came along they
were't poor anymore and she could go to the store and buy things.

>My mother was
>an even more adventurous cook than her parents, and I am more
>adventurous than my mother.

Being a 60's mom, mine was adventurous with cans and boxes. She ran
the accounting end of my dad's company, raised 4 boys all involved in
sports, co-directed the youth choirs at church, was the ways-and-means
chairmen for the PTA, sold tupperware, was a den mother for scouts,
etc etc. so I guess I can't fault her too much, but the variety was
dismal. These days it's nice to cook a unique meal for her.

>I used to use recipes, but most of
>my meals these days come out of my head, relying on old recipes I
>have tried or seen in magazines or cooking shows and adjusted as
>I go.

I cook on the fly too unless I'm entertaining. I have no cooking
training and certainly didn't learn anything growing up. Although I'm
not fond of Gordon Elliott, "Doorknock Dinners" was one of my
favorite shows when I watched foodtv. It's fun to open the fridge
and try to put together a good meal. I'm a bit more anal when I
entertain. I print out the menu and the recipes. The menu goes on
the fridge so I don't forget anything. If it's a complicated menu
I'll even make a schedule so I get the bread (or whatever) going on
time.

Lou

On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 07:34:40 +0200, "Moira de Swardt"
> wrote:

> As a single person I have a range of about
>10 things that I prepare again and again. Cooking for one is a
>hassle.

This is just another point of view:

I'm almost 50 years old. I've been married and have children, but
I've spend most of my adult life living alone. I never found cooking
for myself a hassle but rather a luxury. I didn't have to worry about
anyone else's tastes and could do lots of experimenting. That's how I
learned. I'm in a very good relationship now. When we met is was
clear I was capable of doing the bulk of the cooking but both her
daughters were vegetarians. Although I adapted quickly they were a
pain in the butt. They, along with mine are all off on their own now
and it's just the two of us. This is better. Even with just the two
of us I still occasionally will cook something for myself just for
fun.

I don't miss being alone, but I do miss cooking for just me.

Lou