I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself again.
My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on Lake Sam
Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group that live where
it snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since you are snowed in
quite often and cant get out .. how much planning ahead do you have to do in
order to survive the cold snowy days of winter.. I myself live out in the
woods and about 50 miles from the nearest big grocery store..and I still run
out of major food supplies. Granted...I don't get snow here but do have to
plan ahead to some extent because stores are few and far between. Anyone
care to respond ? Just curious ..
Lynn

Lynette Hebert said...

> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself
> again. My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on
> Lake Sam Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group
> that live where it snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since
> you are snowed in quite often and cant get out .. how much planning
> ahead do you have to do in order to survive the cold snowy days of
> winter.. I myself live out in the woods and about 50 miles from the
> nearest big grocery store..and I still run out of major food supplies.
> Granted...I don't get snow here but do have to plan ahead to some
> extent because stores are few and far between. Anyone care to respond
> ? Just curious ..
> Lynn


Lynn,

I'm in the woods of Pennsylvania near Philly.

I'm only about 1/2 mile from the closest 7/11 and 2 miles to the nearest
supermarket.

In a power outtage, and roads are impassible, the generator powers a
space heater, a few low watt lamps, small george forman grill and presto
multi-cooker for meals, cell phone charger, TV and laptop. Battery
operated flashlights and all-band radio scanners. I just move into the
kitchen/family room and close the doors to the rest of the house. I've
lived in there a handful of days. There's a fireplace in the kitchen too
so that's always nice and cozy, especially in the dark. I've slept in the
La-Z-Boy recliner countless times. Sleep better in it usually than in
bed, as it gently rocks while reclined.

Otherwise I don't eat differently during wintertime.

Andy

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:55:32 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:

>Lynette Hebert said...
>
>> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself
>> again. My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on
>> Lake Sam Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group
>> that live where it snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since
>> you are snowed in quite often and cant get out .. how much planning
>> ahead do you have to do in order to survive the cold snowy days of
>> winter.. I myself live out in the woods and about 50 miles from the
>> nearest big grocery store..and I still run out of major food supplies.
>> Granted...I don't get snow here but do have to plan ahead to some
>> extent because stores are few and far between. Anyone care to respond
>> ? Just curious ..
>> Lynn
>
>
>Lynn,
>
>I'm in the woods of Pennsylvania near Philly.
>
>I'm only about 1/2 mile from the closest 7/11 and 2 miles to the nearest
>supermarket.
>
>In a power outtage, and roads are impassible, the generator powers a
>space heater, a few low watt lamps, small george forman grill and presto
>multi-cooker for meals, cell phone charger, TV and laptop. Battery
>operated flashlights and all-band radio scanners. I just move into the
>kitchen/family room and close the doors to the rest of the house. I've
>lived in there a handful of days. There's a fireplace in the kitchen too
>so that's always nice and cozy, especially in the dark. I've slept in the
>La-Z-Boy recliner countless times. Sleep better in it usually than in
>bed, as it gently rocks while reclined.
>
>Otherwise I don't eat differently during wintertime.
>
My family lives over half an hour (at top speed) from the nearest
town. They have a *big* freezer and a large pantry.... so there is no
"meal planning", they just shop at home if they can't get into town.
They have a generator that is used from time to time because power
still can't be counted on and fireplace/stoves that are used as their
main source of heat. Mom was a child of the depression era who lived
(at times) out in the woods with no plumbing or heating, so a few days
of inacessibility didn't phase her.
--
See return address to reply by email

Lynette Hebert wrote:
> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself again.
> My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on Lake Sam
> Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group that live where
> it snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since you are snowed in
> quite often and cant get out .. how much planning ahead do you have to do in
> order to survive the cold snowy days of winter.. I myself live out in the
> woods and about 50 miles from the nearest big grocery store..and I still run
> out of major food supplies. Granted...I don't get snow here but do have to
> plan ahead to some extent because stores are few and far between. Anyone
> care to respond ? Just curious ..


I'm not quite sure what you're getting at but I keep stocked up the
same all year, winter and summer... even if it's a nice spring day and
it's only four miles to the closest market I really don't want to drive
into town special for like a sack of sugar. Running out of food stuff
has notihng to do with anything other than poor planning/poor shopping
skills... I'm guessing but in East Texas it's got to be the pits to run
out of beer... imagine how all them rednecks for 50 miless would talk
if a neighbor popped in and you had no beer. LOL

What I do is use a reminder list.... most all major stupidmarket chains
have a web site where you can print out an extensive list of food and
non-food items, hundreds or items filling like six printed pages, with
check boxes next to each item... I keep the list handy in my kitchen on
a clipboard with a pencil and a stack of blank paper (I don't write on
the printed store list, I use it to peruse through on shopping day as a
reminder, and from that I add to my shopping list. Whenever I see I'm
running low on something I immediately add it to my shopping list (I
don't wait to run out). When it gets close to shopping day I sift
through the current store circulars and add things I need/want to my
list as well. Even with all my preparations I still manage to miss
items. but rarely anything so important that I can't make do without...
I keep enough cat food and litter to last a year and I always have a
spare liter of vodka stashed way in the back of my freezer... don't
need no stinkin' generator! LOL.

Sheldon

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Lynette Hebert wrote:
>> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself
>> again.
>> My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on Lake Sam
>> Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group that live
>> where
>> it snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since you are snowed in
>> quite often and cant get out .. how much planning ahead do you have to do
>> in
>> order to survive the cold snowy days of winter.. I myself live out in the
>> woods and about 50 miles from the nearest big grocery store..and I still
>> run
>> out of major food supplies. Granted...I don't get snow here but do have
>> to
>> plan ahead to some extent because stores are few and far between. Anyone
>> care to respond ? Just curious ..
>
>
> I'm not quite sure what you're getting at but I keep stocked up the
> same all year, winter and summer... even if it's a nice spring day and
> it's only four miles to the closest market I really don't want to drive
> into town special for like a sack of sugar. Running out of food stuff
> has notihng to do with anything other than poor planning/poor shopping
> skills... I'm guessing but in East Texas it's got to be the pits to run
> out of beer... imagine how all them rednecks for 50 miless would talk
> if a neighbor popped in and you had no beer. LOL
>
> What I do is use a reminder list.... most all major stupidmarket chains
> have a web site where you can print out an extensive list of food and
> non-food items, hundreds or items filling like six printed pages, with
> check boxes next to each item... I keep the list handy in my kitchen on
> a clipboard with a pencil and a stack of blank paper (I don't write on
> the printed store list, I use it to peruse through on shopping day as a
> reminder, and from that I add to my shopping list. Whenever I see I'm
> running low on something I immediately add it to my shopping list (I
> don't wait to run out). When it gets close to shopping day I sift
> through the current store circulars and add things I need/want to my
> list as well. Even with all my preparations I still manage to miss
> items. but rarely anything so important that I can't make do without...
> I keep enough cat food and litter to last a year and I always have a
> spare liter of vodka stashed way in the back of my freezer... don't
> need no stinkin' generator! LOL.
>
> Sheldon

Thanks for your response. I was not getting at anything . Just curious on
how people in snow covered areas prepares the household for the snowed in
days of winter.
Being the person that you just came off to me as being ..I am taking it
that you live alone ( no wonder ). People with families to feed have a
little bit more than cat food and liter to buy. Your insult about beer was
way out of line. All the counties surrounding and including mine are dry
counties..and as far as rednecks are concerned... at least we have decent
human morals and with the help of God we try to understand people like you
who thrive on cutting each and every thing or person down. I don't see a
whole lot of post from you ..what I do see is when someone does post you
seem to just jump right in there and make some smart remarks. Are you that
lonely and that unhappy that you cant respond to post unless you can
down-grade what people say or talk about.. I pity you Sheldon. Really I do !

Lynette Hebert wrote:
> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> >
> > Lynette Hebert wrote:
> >> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself
> >> again.
> >> My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on Lake Sam
> >> Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group that live
> >> where
> >> it snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since you are snowed in
> >> quite often and cant get out .. how much planning ahead do you have to do
> >> in
> >> order to survive the cold snowy days of winter.. I myself live out in the
> >> woods and about 50 miles from the nearest big grocery store..and I still
> >> run
> >> out of major food supplies. Granted...I don't get snow here but do have
> >> to
> >> plan ahead to some extent because stores are few and far between. Anyone
> >> care to respond ? Just curious ..
> >
> >
> > I'm not quite sure what you're getting at but I keep stocked up the
> > same all year, winter and summer... even if it's a nice spring day and
> > it's only four miles to the closest market I really don't want to drive
> > into town special for like a sack of sugar. Running out of food stuff
> > has notihng to do with anything other than poor planning/poor shopping
> > skills... I'm guessing but in East Texas it's got to be the pits to run
> > out of beer... imagine how all them rednecks for 50 miless would talk
> > if a neighbor popped in and you had no beer. LOL
> >
> > What I do is use a reminder list.... most all major stupidmarket chains
> > have a web site where you can print out an extensive list of food and
> > non-food items, hundreds or items filling like six printed pages, with
> > check boxes next to each item... I keep the list handy in my kitchen on
> > a clipboard with a pencil and a stack of blank paper (I don't write on
> > the printed store list, I use it to peruse through on shopping day as a
> > reminder, and from that I add to my shopping list. Whenever I see I'm
> > running low on something I immediately add it to my shopping list (I
> > don't wait to run out). When it gets close to shopping day I sift
> > through the current store circulars and add things I need/want to my
> > list as well. Even with all my preparations I still manage to miss
> > items. but rarely anything so important that I can't make do without...
> > I keep enough cat food and litter to last a year and I always have a
> > spare liter of vodka stashed way in the back of my freezer... don't
> > need no stinkin' generator! LOL.
> >
> > Sheldon
>
> Thanks for your response. I was not getting at anything . Just curious on
> how people in snow covered areas prepares the household for the snowed in
> days of winter.
> Being the person that you just came off to me as being ..I am taking it
> that you live alone ( no wonder ). People with families to feed have a
> little bit more than cat food and liter to buy. Your insult about beer was
> way out of line. All the counties surrounding and including mine are dry
> counties..and as far as rednecks are concerned... at least we have decent
> human morals and with the help of God we try to understand people like you
> who thrive on cutting each and every thing or person down. I don't see a
> whole lot of post from you ..what I do see is when someone does post you
> seem to just jump right in there and make some smart remarks. Are you that
> lonely and that unhappy that you cant respond to post unless you can
> down-grade what people say or talk about.. I pity you Sheldon. Really I do !

**** god... there is no god... if it weren't for your kind of radical
bible thumping imbeciles the world would be at peace and I could turn
on the news and hear about a cure for cancer instead of all about yoose
god fearin' terrorists. Texas is no different from Iraq, even looks
the same.... why don't you stock up on matches and pillow cases for
your cross burnings.

"Atheism is a non-prophet organization." - George Carlin

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Lynette Hebert wrote:
>> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>> ups.com...
>> >
>> > Lynette Hebert wrote:
>> >> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself
>> >> again.
>> >> My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on Lake Sam
>> >> Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group that live
>> >> where
>> >> it snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since you are snowed
>> >> in
>> >> quite often and cant get out .. how much planning ahead do you have to
>> >> do
>> >> in
>> >> order to survive the cold snowy days of winter.. I myself live out in
>> >> the
>> >> woods and about 50 miles from the nearest big grocery store..and I
>> >> still
>> >> run
>> >> out of major food supplies. Granted...I don't get snow here but do
>> >> have
>> >> to
>> >> plan ahead to some extent because stores are few and far between.
>> >> Anyone
>> >> care to respond ? Just curious ..
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm not quite sure what you're getting at but I keep stocked up the
>> > same all year, winter and summer... even if it's a nice spring day and
>> > it's only four miles to the closest market I really don't want to drive
>> > into town special for like a sack of sugar. Running out of food stuff
>> > has notihng to do with anything other than poor planning/poor shopping
>> > skills... I'm guessing but in East Texas it's got to be the pits to run
>> > out of beer... imagine how all them rednecks for 50 miless would talk
>> > if a neighbor popped in and you had no beer. LOL
>> >
>> > What I do is use a reminder list.... most all major stupidmarket chains
>> > have a web site where you can print out an extensive list of food and
>> > non-food items, hundreds or items filling like six printed pages, with
>> > check boxes next to each item... I keep the list handy in my kitchen on
>> > a clipboard with a pencil and a stack of blank paper (I don't write on
>> > the printed store list, I use it to peruse through on shopping day as a
>> > reminder, and from that I add to my shopping list. Whenever I see I'm
>> > running low on something I immediately add it to my shopping list (I
>> > don't wait to run out). When it gets close to shopping day I sift
>> > through the current store circulars and add things I need/want to my
>> > list as well. Even with all my preparations I still manage to miss
>> > items. but rarely anything so important that I can't make do without...
>> > I keep enough cat food and litter to last a year and I always have a
>> > spare liter of vodka stashed way in the back of my freezer... don't
>> > need no stinkin' generator! LOL.
>> >
>> > Sheldon
>>
>> Thanks for your response. I was not getting at anything . Just curious
>> on
>> how people in snow covered areas prepares the household for the snowed in
>> days of winter.
>> Being the person that you just came off to me as being ..I am taking it
>> that you live alone ( no wonder ). People with families to feed have a
>> little bit more than cat food and liter to buy. Your insult about beer
>> was
>> way out of line. All the counties surrounding and including mine are dry
>> counties..and as far as rednecks are concerned... at least we have decent
>> human morals and with the help of God we try to understand people like
>> you
>> who thrive on cutting each and every thing or person down. I don't see a
>> whole lot of post from you ..what I do see is when someone does post you
>> seem to just jump right in there and make some smart remarks. Are you
>> that
>> lonely and that unhappy that you cant respond to post unless you can
>> down-grade what people say or talk about.. I pity you Sheldon. Really I
>> do !
>
> **** god... there is no god... if it weren't for your kind of radical
> bible thumping imbeciles the world would be at peace and I could turn
> on the news and hear about a cure for cancer instead of all about yoose
> god fearin' terrorists. Texas is no different from Iraq, even looks
> the same.... why don't you stock up on matches and pillow cases for
> your cross burnings.
>

I just bet you are the type that abuses your wife, children and anyone
around you..You are abusing me and I haven't done anything to you.

Oh pshaw, on Mon 16 Oct 2006 11:21:07a, Lynette Hebert meant to say...

>
> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>>
>> Lynette Hebert wrote:
>>> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com...
>>> >
>>> > Lynette Hebert wrote:
>>> >> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself
>>> >> again. My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on
>>> >> Lake Sam Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group
>>> >> that live where it snows alot buy your food for the winter time.
>>> >> Since you are snowed in quite often and cant get out .. how much
>>> >> planning ahead do you have to do in order to survive the cold
>>> >> snowy days of winter.. I myself live out in the woods and about 50
>>> >> miles from the nearest big grocery store..and I still run out of
>>> >> major food supplies. Granted...I don't get snow here but do have
>>> >> to plan ahead to some extent because stores are few and far
>>> >> between. Anyone care to respond ? Just curious ..
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I'm not quite sure what you're getting at but I keep stocked up the
>>> > same all year, winter and summer... even if it's a nice spring day
>>> > and it's only four miles to the closest market I really don't want
>>> > to drive into town special for like a sack of sugar. Running out of
>>> > food stuff has notihng to do with anything other than poor
>>> > planning/poor shopping skills... I'm guessing but in East Texas it's
>>> > got to be the pits to run out of beer... imagine how all them
>>> > rednecks for 50 miless would talk if a neighbor popped in and you
>>> > had no beer. LOL
>>> >
>>> > What I do is use a reminder list.... most all major stupidmarket
>>> > chains have a web site where you can print out an extensive list of
>>> > food and non-food items, hundreds or items filling like six printed
>>> > pages, with check boxes next to each item... I keep the list handy
>>> > in my kitchen on a clipboard with a pencil and a stack of blank
>>> > paper (I don't write on the printed store list, I use it to peruse
>>> > through on shopping day as a reminder, and from that I add to my
>>> > shopping list. Whenever I see I'm running low on something I
>>> > immediately add it to my shopping list (I don't wait to run out).
>>> > When it gets close to shopping day I sift through the current store
>>> > circulars and add things I need/want to my list as well. Even with
>>> > all my preparations I still manage to miss items. but rarely
>>> > anything so important that I can't make do without... I keep enough
>>> > cat food and litter to last a year and I always have a spare liter
>>> > of vodka stashed way in the back of my freezer... don't need no
>>> > stinkin' generator! LOL.
>>> >
>>> > Sheldon
>>>
>>> Thanks for your response. I was not getting at anything . Just
>>> curious on
>>> how people in snow covered areas prepares the household for the snowed
>>> in days of winter.
>>> Being the person that you just came off to me as being ..I am taking
>>> it
>>> that you live alone ( no wonder ). People with families to feed have a
>>> little bit more than cat food and liter to buy. Your insult about beer
>>> was way out of line. All the counties surrounding and including mine
>>> are dry counties..and as far as rednecks are concerned... at least we
>>> have decent human morals and with the help of God we try to understand
>>> people like you who thrive on cutting each and every thing or person
>>> down. I don't see a whole lot of post from you ..what I do see is when
>>> someone does post you seem to just jump right in there and make some
>>> smart remarks. Are you that lonely and that unhappy that you cant
>>> respond to post unless you can down-grade what people say or talk
>>> about.. I pity you Sheldon. Really I do !
>>
>> **** god... there is no god... if it weren't for your kind of radical
>> bible thumping imbeciles the world would be at peace and I could turn
>> on the news and hear about a cure for cancer instead of all about yoose
>> god fearin' terrorists. Texas is no different from Iraq, even looks
>> the same.... why don't you stock up on matches and pillow cases for
>> your cross burnings.
>>
>
> I just bet you are the type that abuses your wife, children and anyone
> around you..You are abusing me and I haven't done anything to you.

He takes great pleasure in doing just that. He will not stop until he is
too feeble to type or dies, whichever comes first.

The only things he doesn't abuse are his cats.

You would be wise to put him in your killfile and forget that he exists.
Take it from one who knows.

Those here who support him are beyond my comprehension.

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

We don't know who discovered water, but we're
pretty sure it wasn't a fish.

One time on Usenet, "Lynette Hebert" > said:
> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
> ups.com...

<snip>

> > **** god... there is no god... if it weren't for your kind of radical
> > bible thumping imbeciles the world would be at peace and I could turn
> > on the news and hear about a cure for cancer instead of all about yoose
> > god fearin' terrorists. Texas is no different from Iraq, even looks
> > the same.... why don't you stock up on matches and pillow cases for
> > your cross burnings.
> >
>
> I just bet you are the type that abuses your wife, children and anyone
> around you..You are abusing me and I haven't done anything to you.

Don't take it personally, he's just building up to a flame out.
He does this every few months -- starts out reasonably helpful
and polite, which degenerates into insults thinly disguised as
humor. Then he stops adding "hahaha" to his rants and simply
spews bile for at anyone or anything in his path. Finally, he
disappears for a while, and the cycle starts again. It might
be funny if it weren't so sad. Your best bet is to killfile
him during this nastier phase, if not permanently...

--
"Little Malice" is Jani in WA
~ mom, Trollop, novice cook ~

" > **** god... there is no god... if it weren't for your kind of radical
> bible thumping imbeciles the world would be at peace and I could turn
> on the news and hear about a cure for cancer instead of all about yoose
> god fearin' terrorists. Texas is no different from Iraq, even looks
> the same.... why don't you stock up on matches and pillow cases for
> your cross burnings.
>
One thing I know for sure is that you don't want to get these Rednecks
here in East Texas riled up...I know there is not that many if any here in
this group...but word does have a way of spreading itself around so maybe
you should keep your religious comments to yourself.

Lynette Hebert wrote:
> " > **** god... there is no god...
>>
> but word does have a way of spreading
> itself around so maybe you should keep your religious comments to
> yourself.

With all due respect, you're the one who first mentioned God:
"All the counties surrounding and including mine are dry
counties..and as far as rednecks are concerned... at least we have decent
human morals and with the help of God we try to understand people like you".

I'm not saying I believe the same as Sheldon, but I'm not saying I believe
the same as you do, either. So really, you shouldn't have brought up the
religious issue in the first place.

Jill

"Lynette Hebert" > wrote in message
...

>
> Thanks for your response. I was not getting at anything . Just curious on
> how people in snow covered areas prepares the household for the snowed in
> days of winter.


Here (upstate NY), the plows are out on the roads BEFORE things get out of
hand. In 25 years, there've only been 2 times when travel became absurd. One
was an ice storm, the other was snow falling faster than the plows could
handle. And, I'm talking about two plows simultaneously clearing a 5 miles
stretch of highway, with all 3 blades down on each truck.

Lynette Hebert wrote:

> All the counties surrounding and including mine are dry counties

Which in much of the US doesn't mean people don't drink. (This is not
a defense of Sheldon.)

It's possible to ignore people on Usenet. There's this little feature
of most (if not all) newsreader programs called "killfile" or Bozo bin."

--
Dan Goodman
All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies.
John Arbuthnot (1667-1735), Scottish writer, physician.
Journal http://dsgood.livejournal.com
Links http://del.icio.us/dsgood
Blog http://dsgood.googlepages.com

Sheldon wrote:
>
> Whenever I see I'm running low on something I immediately
> add it to my shopping list (I don't wait to run out).
> When it gets close to shopping day I sift through the
> current store circulars and add things I need/want to my
> list as well. Even with all my preparations I still manage
> to miss items. but rarely anything so important that I can't
> make do without... I keep enough cat food and litter to last a
> year and I always have a spare liter of vodka stashed way in the
> back of my freezer... don't need no stinkin' generator! LOL.

How 20th century. My refrigerator has six sensor heads
that automatically scan the bar codes on all of the items
I put in it, no matter which direction the item is facing.
It transmits the information by WiFi to the dashboard of
my SUV, which displays appropriate reminders when the GPS
system detects I'm driving buy a place that carries items
with low inventory level. For high-priority items like beer,
the gauge is always on display, right next to the gas gauge
and oil temperature. I can't imagine spending any of my
valuable time working out a paper shopping list. You only get
one lifetime, why spend any of it doing menial tasks? :-)

Lynette Hebert wrote:

> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself
> again. My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on
> Lake Sam Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group
> that live where it snows alot buy your food for the winter time.
> Since you are snowed in quite often and cant get out .. how much
> planning ahead do you have to do in order to survive the cold snowy
> days of winter.. I myself live out in the woods and about 50 miles
> from the nearest big grocery store..and I still run out of major food
> supplies. Granted...I don't get snow here but do have to plan ahead
> to some extent because stores are few and far between. Anyone care to
> respond ? Just curious .. Lynn

In Minneapolis and the rest of the Twin Cities metro, buses almost
always keep running when it snows -- though sometimes rather slowly.
Some cars also run -- but there are usually some people who take the
bus because their cars aren't running (or are buried under snow).

There's a convenience store about a block from me. A couple of
supermarkets are within easy (usually) hiking distance.

--
Dan Goodman
All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies.
John Arbuthnot (1667-1735), Scottish writer, physician.
Journal http://dsgood.livejournal.com
Links http://del.icio.us/dsgood
Blog http://dsgood.googlepages.com

Oh pshaw, on Mon 16 Oct 2006 06:34:41a, Lynette Hebert meant to say...

> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself
> again. My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on Lake
> Sam Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group that live
> where it snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since you are
> snowed in quite often and cant get out .. how much planning ahead do you
> have to do in order to survive the cold snowy days of winter.. I myself
> live out in the woods and about 50 miles from the nearest big grocery
> store..and I still run out of major food supplies. Granted...I don't get
> snow here but do have to plan ahead to some extent because stores are
> few and far between. Anyone care to respond ? Just curious ..
> Lynn

I spent most of my life in NE Ohio, although I now live in Arizona. We
kept a freezer stocked with all things that freeze well. We kept a well-
stocked pantry of canned goods and staples. Unless we were truly snowed in
(which seldom lasted more than a day or two), I passed by more than one
supermarket on my way to and from work each day. Buying fresh items wasn't
that difficult.

When we first moved to Arizona we lived at least an hour's drive to the
nearest shopping area. That was actually worse, despite the weather. We
kept a cooler in the trunk of the car to hold frozen and perishable items
for the trip home. If it was extremely hot, we added either ice or dry ice
for the return trip.

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

We don't know who discovered water, but we're
pretty sure it wasn't a fish.

"Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
28.19...
> Oh pshaw, on Mon 16 Oct 2006 06:34:41a, Lynette Hebert meant to say...
>
>> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself
>> again. My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on Lake
>> Sam Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group that live
>> where it snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since you are
>> snowed in quite often and cant get out .. how much planning ahead do you
>> have to do in order to survive the cold snowy days of winter.. I myself
>> live out in the woods and about 50 miles from the nearest big grocery
>> store..and I still run out of major food supplies. Granted...I don't get
>> snow here but do have to plan ahead to some extent because stores are
>> few and far between. Anyone care to respond ? Just curious ..
>> Lynn
>
> I spent most of my life in NE Ohio, although I now live in Arizona. We
> kept a freezer stocked with all things that freeze well. We kept a well-
> stocked pantry of canned goods and staples. Unless we were truly snowed
> in
> (which seldom lasted more than a day or two), I passed by more than one
> supermarket on my way to and from work each day. Buying fresh items
> wasn't
> that difficult.
>
> When we first moved to Arizona we lived at least an hour's drive to the
> nearest shopping area. That was actually worse, despite the weather. We
> kept a cooler in the trunk of the car to hold frozen and perishable items
> for the trip home. If it was extremely hot, we added either ice or dry
> ice
> for the return trip.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
> __________________________________________________
>
> We don't know who discovered water, but we're
> pretty sure it wasn't a fish.
>

I have to do the very same thing. Forget the ice cream .. it doesn't work
well. I truly love living here on this lake and I wouldn't trade it for the
city ever again but there are some things I just cant get use to doing and
shopping for food is one of them.

Oh pshaw, on Mon 16 Oct 2006 11:50:25a, Lynette Hebert meant to say...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
> 28.19...
>> Oh pshaw, on Mon 16 Oct 2006 06:34:41a, Lynette Hebert meant to say...
>>
>>> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself
>>> again. My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on
>>> Lake Sam Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group
>>> that live where it snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since
>>> you are snowed in quite often and cant get out .. how much planning
>>> ahead do you have to do in order to survive the cold snowy days of
>>> winter.. I myself live out in the woods and about 50 miles from the
>>> nearest big grocery store..and I still run out of major food supplies.
>>> Granted...I don't get snow here but do have to plan ahead to some
>>> extent because stores are few and far between. Anyone care to respond
>>> ? Just curious ..
>>> Lynn
>>
>> I spent most of my life in NE Ohio, although I now live in Arizona. We
>> kept a freezer stocked with all things that freeze well. We kept a
>> well- stocked pantry of canned goods and staples. Unless we were truly
>> snowed in (which seldom lasted more than a day or two), I passed by
>> more than one supermarket on my way to and from work each day. Buying
>> fresh items wasn't that difficult.
>>
>> When we first moved to Arizona we lived at least an hour's drive to the
>> nearest shopping area. That was actually worse, despite the weather.
>> We kept a cooler in the trunk of the car to hold frozen and perishable
>> items for the trip home. If it was extremely hot, we added either ice
>> or dry ice for the return trip.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>> __________________________________________________
>>
>> We don't know who discovered water, but we're
>> pretty sure it wasn't a fish.
>>
>
> I have to do the very same thing. Forget the ice cream .. it doesn't
> work
> well. I truly love living here on this lake and I wouldn't trade it for
> the city ever again but there are some things I just cant get use to
> doing and shopping for food is one of them.

How long have you lived there, Lynette? It took me a couple of years to
get used to the new routine of shopping. After that it wasn't too much of
a bother. We have sinced moved closer into town, and there are five
supermarkets within a ten minute drive.

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

We don't know who discovered water, but we're
pretty sure it wasn't a fish.

"Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
28.19...
> Oh pshaw, on Mon 16 Oct 2006 11:50:25a, Lynette Hebert meant to say...
>
>>
>> "Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
>> 28.19...
>>> Oh pshaw, on Mon 16 Oct 2006 06:34:41a, Lynette Hebert meant to say...
>>>
>>>> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself
>>>> again. My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on
>>>> Lake Sam Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group
>>>> that live where it snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since
>>>> you are snowed in quite often and cant get out .. how much planning
>>>> ahead do you have to do in order to survive the cold snowy days of
>>>> winter.. I myself live out in the woods and about 50 miles from the
>>>> nearest big grocery store..and I still run out of major food supplies.
>>>> Granted...I don't get snow here but do have to plan ahead to some
>>>> extent because stores are few and far between. Anyone care to respond
>>>> ? Just curious ..
>>>> Lynn
>>>
>>> I spent most of my life in NE Ohio, although I now live in Arizona. We
>>> kept a freezer stocked with all things that freeze well. We kept a
>>> well- stocked pantry of canned goods and staples. Unless we were truly
>>> snowed in (which seldom lasted more than a day or two), I passed by
>>> more than one supermarket on my way to and from work each day. Buying
>>> fresh items wasn't that difficult.
>>>
>>> When we first moved to Arizona we lived at least an hour's drive to the
>>> nearest shopping area. That was actually worse, despite the weather.
>>> We kept a cooler in the trunk of the car to hold frozen and perishable
>>> items for the trip home. If it was extremely hot, we added either ice
>>> or dry ice for the return trip.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wayne Boatwright
>>> __________________________________________________
>>>
>>> We don't know who discovered water, but we're
>>> pretty sure it wasn't a fish.
>>>
>>
>> I have to do the very same thing. Forget the ice cream .. it doesn't
>> work
>> well. I truly love living here on this lake and I wouldn't trade it for
>> the city ever again but there are some things I just cant get use to
>> doing and shopping for food is one of them.
>
> How long have you lived there, Lynette? It took me a couple of years to
> get used to the new routine of shopping. After that it wasn't too much of
> a bother. We have sinced moved closer into town, and there are five
> supermarkets within a ten minute drive.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
> __________________________________________________
>
> We don't know who discovered water, but we're
> pretty sure it wasn't a fish.
>

Three years...I know I should be use to it by now . My sister and myself
just starting shopping at Sams so we could buy in large quantities. I get in
there and think ....I don't need all this much of this .. and I usually
don't buy it...but later regret that I didn't. Thanks for your kind words..
Lynn

"Lynette Hebert" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
> 28.19...
>> Oh pshaw, on Mon 16 Oct 2006 11:50:25a, Lynette Hebert meant to say...
>>
>>>
>>> "Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> 28.19...
>>>> Oh pshaw, on Mon 16 Oct 2006 06:34:41a, Lynette Hebert meant to
>>>> say...
>>>>
>>>>> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself
>>>>> again. My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on
>>>>> Lake Sam Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group
>>>>> that live where it snows alot buy your food for the winter time.
>>>>> Since
>>>>> you are snowed in quite often and cant get out .. how much planning
>>>>> ahead do you have to do in order to survive the cold snowy days of
>>>>> winter.. I myself live out in the woods and about 50 miles from the
>>>>> nearest big grocery store..and I still run out of major food
>>>>> supplies.
>>>>> Granted...I don't get snow here but do have to plan ahead to some
>>>>> extent because stores are few and far between. Anyone care to
>>>>> respond
>>>>> ? Just curious ..
>>>>> Lynn
>>>>
>>>> I spent most of my life in NE Ohio, although I now live in Arizona.
>>>> We
>>>> kept a freezer stocked with all things that freeze well. We kept a
>>>> well- stocked pantry of canned goods and staples. Unless we were
>>>> truly
>>>> snowed in (which seldom lasted more than a day or two), I passed by
>>>> more than one supermarket on my way to and from work each day.
>>>> Buying
>>>> fresh items wasn't that difficult.
>>>>
>>>> When we first moved to Arizona we lived at least an hour's drive to
>>>> the
>>>> nearest shopping area. That was actually worse, despite the weather.
>>>> We kept a cooler in the trunk of the car to hold frozen and
>>>> perishable
>>>> items for the trip home. If it was extremely hot, we added either
>>>> ice
>>>> or dry ice for the return trip.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Wayne Boatwright
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> We don't know who discovered water, but we're
>>>> pretty sure it wasn't a fish.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have to do the very same thing. Forget the ice cream .. it doesn't
>>> work
>>> well. I truly love living here on this lake and I wouldn't trade it
>>> for
>>> the city ever again but there are some things I just cant get use to
>>> doing and shopping for food is one of them.
>>
>> How long have you lived there, Lynette? It took me a couple of years
>> to
>> get used to the new routine of shopping. After that it wasn't too much
>> of
>> a bother. We have sinced moved closer into town, and there are five
>> supermarkets within a ten minute drive.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>> __________________________________________________
>>
>> We don't know who discovered water, but we're
>> pretty sure it wasn't a fish.
>>
>
> Three years...I know I should be use to it by now . My sister and
> myself just starting shopping at Sams so we could buy in large
> quantities. I get in there and think ....I don't need all this much of
> this .. and I usually don't buy it...but later regret that I didn't.
> Thanks for your kind words..
> Lynn
>
Take it from me it takes a while to get used to changing your shopping
habits. My husband says I'm still shopping for the 40,000 when there's
just the two of us now.

--
My Word
in
FERGUS/HARLINGEN
http://www.mompeagram.homestead.com/index.html

In Superior, WI we would get a lot of snow in the winter. I remember
6-10 foot snowdrifts from blizzards, making it very hard to get around
and burying cars and even semis. The plows would keep the main roads
clear, and we would just have to make our way a couple of blocks
through the snow to the main road, then walk down that a couple of
blocks to the store. The only part that helped was that it would drop
to -50F or -60F with the wind chill, and that would freeze the snow
enough so you could walk on it or just sink down a foot or so with each
step.

Boy does that bring back memories. I would never live too far away
from a convenience market or grocery store, personally. I live outside
of Nashville, TN now, but would like to move to Vermont or New
Hampshire in a couple of years because I miss the snow.

Lynette Hebert wrote:
> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself again.
> My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on Lake Sam
> Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group that live where
> it snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since you are snowed in
> quite often and cant get out .. how much planning ahead do you have to do in
> order to survive the cold snowy days of winter.. I myself live out in the
> woods and about 50 miles from the nearest big grocery store..and I still run
> out of major food supplies. Granted...I don't get snow here but do have to
> plan ahead to some extent because stores are few and far between. Anyone
> care to respond ? Just curious ..
> Lynn

Dave said...

> The only part that helped was that it would drop
> to -50F or -60F with the wind chill, and that would freeze the snow
> enough so you could walk on it or just sink down a foot or so with each
> step.


My uphill driveway after plowing would thaw and freeze depending on the
temps in the course of a day or two.

Getting to the top of the driveway to fetch mail or put out the trash was
dangerous, until I saw a news segment where somebody on camera was
wearing golf shoes with metal kleets. BRILLIANT!!!!!

I found my old golf shoes and grinded the kleet tips sharp with the
dremel tool. I was able to walk up the sheet of ice driveway with every
confidence of NOT falling on my ass!

Andy

I must add, from experience, do not wear golf shoes inside the house,
you'll gouge wood and linoleum floors if the kleets are razor sharpened OR
if they're dull, you'll slip and slide and land on your ass just as if you
were outside on ice in your bare feet.

TRUE.

Andy

Andy wrote:

> My uphill driveway after plowing would thaw and freeze depending on the
> temps in the course of a day or two.

Take a tip from the way road crews deal with snow and ice on roads. They
spread salt on the road early in the storm, before the snow gets pressed
down, sticks to the road and freezes so that plows skip right over top. That
creates a "brine sandwich" a thin layer of salty water that helps the plow to
slip right down and lift all the snow and ice off, and it continues to reduce
freezing on the road surface. Then they use sand for traction. The sand is
mixed 6-7 parts sand to one part salt, which stops the sand piles from
freezing up. Make a bin at the top of the driveway to make spreading easier.

>

Dave Smith said...

> Andy wrote:
>
>> My uphill driveway after plowing would thaw and freeze depending on
>> the temps in the course of a day or two.
>
> Take a tip from the way road crews deal with snow and ice on roads.
> They spread salt on the road early in the storm, before the snow gets
> pressed down, sticks to the road and freezes so that plows skip right
> over top. That creates a "brine sandwich" a thin layer of salty water
> that helps the plow to slip right down and lift all the snow and ice
> off, and it continues to reduce freezing on the road surface. Then
> they use sand for traction. The sand is mixed 6-7 parts sand to one
> part salt, which stops the sand piles from freezing up. Make a bin at
> the top of the driveway to make spreading easier.


Dave,

Thanks, but I've had it figured out for years. Sorry, no offense.

Andy

Andy wrote:
> Dave said...
>
> > The only part that helped was that it would drop
> > to -50F or -60F with the wind chill, and that would freeze the snow
> > enough so you could walk on it or just sink down a foot or so with each
> > step.
>
>
> My uphill driveway after plowing would thaw and freeze depending on the
> temps in the course of a day or two.
>
> Getting to the top of the driveway to fetch mail or put out the trash was
> dangerous, until I saw a news segment where somebody on camera was
> wearing golf shoes with metal kleets. BRILLIANT!!!!!
>
> I found my old golf shoes and grinded the kleet tips sharp with the
> dremel tool. I was able to walk up the sheet of ice driveway with every
> confidence of NOT falling on my ass!

They're *cleats*, and you *ground* them, not "grinded" them... ain't
kleet a brand of enema? :-o

You may want to consider at some point having electric heaters
installed in your driveway, steep driways can be difficult to plow.
And it's a good Idea to clear a drive of snow, especially a steep one,
right away, even while it's still snowing, and certainly before trying
to drive on it, that just stomps down the snow giving ice formation a
good starting point. And if feasiable clare away any sun blocking
everygreens. Get yourself a steel snow pusher type shovel.... these
are the old fashioned kind I used to use to do sidewalks in Brooklyn as
a kid... nothing better fro clearing blacktop driveways, the beauty of
it you don't do any lifting. Sometimes I will go out after every 3-4
inches falls, much easier when I don't let it accumulate. Of course if
there's a heavy snow all night them I have my behmouth plow on my
tractor.

I got this one, the 30" and the 18" for close in stuff, excellent:
http://www.amazon.com/GARANT-30-STL-...5?ie=UTF8&s=hi

Don't get the aluminum model, it's too light and you will become
fatigued having to press it to the driveway... the steel one seems very
heavy because it is but that extra weight is what saves you labor...
remember, you don't lift, push and drag back. push and drag back. I
clear a 150' drive in under an hour.

Sheldon Fleet

Lynette Hebert wrote:

> I was just wondering how the people in this group that live where
> it snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since you are snowed in
> quite often and cant get out ..

It's not as bad as you think. Even when I lived in the mountains in New
England, and we got heavy snow, the roads got plowed. As someone else
said, the plows are out before it gets bad. I think the worst we ever
had while I was growing up was a 24 hour wait. No, wait there was the
blizzard of 78 where we got 3 or 4 feet of snow one night and we weren't
allowed to go out for a couple of days, but I don't recall food ever
being an issue, and I'm sure we had power.

That being said, every old New England household knows to stock an extra
cord of wood for the stove, and keep canned goods on the back of the
shelf. We don't have a fireplace here where I live in Kansas now, so I
keep a small folding camp stove, and extra fuel, candles, lamps and oil,
batteries for the radio, etc. Few years ago we had one heck of an ice
storm that left us with a tree on top of my car and no power for 4 days.
We managed.

What kind of special things do you do to get through those
100-degree-plus summers?



Dawn

"Dawn" > wrote in message
...
> Lynette Hebert wrote:
>
>> I was just wondering how the people in this group that live where it
>> snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since you are snowed in
>> quite often and cant get out ..
>
> It's not as bad as you think. Even when I lived in the mountains in New
> England, and we got heavy snow, the roads got plowed. As someone else
> said, the plows are out before it gets bad. I think the worst we ever had
> while I was growing up was a 24 hour wait. No, wait there was the blizzard
> of 78 where we got 3 or 4 feet of snow one night and we weren't allowed to
> go out for a couple of days, but I don't recall food ever being an issue,
> and I'm sure we had power.
>
> That being said, every old New England household knows to stock an extra
> cord of wood for the stove, and keep canned goods on the back of the
> shelf. We don't have a fireplace here where I live in Kansas now, so I
> keep a small folding camp stove, and extra fuel, candles, lamps and oil,
> batteries for the radio, etc. Few years ago we had one heck of an ice
> storm that left us with a tree on top of my car and no power for 4 days.
> We managed.
>
> What kind of special things do you do to get through those 100-degree-plus
> summers?
>
>
>
> Dawn
>

Thanks Dawn,
I cant say that I do anything special for the heat. Our electric bills are
sky high .. my brothers in Houston reported electric bills as high as
$800.00 for one month for a brick three bedroom home. Mine isn't quite that
high but when you run air conditioning all day and night it does jump up
there. If you can manage to pay the price for AC in that kind of heat then
you have it made...Right now our temperature is 73 degrees F.. Its been
raining all day long ... under flash flood warnings at this moment ..not to
mention the tornados warnings and watches we have been under all day ..
Thanks again for your reply.

In article >,
"Lynette Hebert" > wrote:

> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself again.
> My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on Lake Sam
> Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group that live where
> it snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since you are snowed in
> quite often and cant get out .. how much planning ahead do you have to do in
> order to survive the cold snowy days of winter.. I myself live out in the
> woods and about 50 miles from the nearest big grocery store..and I still run
> out of major food supplies. Granted...I don't get snow here but do have to
> plan ahead to some extent because stores are few and far between. Anyone
> care to respond ? Just curious ..
> Lynn

Hi, Lynn -
Minneapolis gets about 50" of snow per winter. I can't remember the
last time I was "snowed in quite often and cant get out." It takes a
LOT of snow to keep most people from their normal daily tasks, whether
it's walking the dog or doing the weekly shopping. I plan NO
differently for winter weather meals than I do for any other season of
the year. It would more likely be double digit sub-zero temps that
would keep me home than snowfall. I have a reliable car and good tires.
I'll usually stay home if roads are known to be icy and those days
aren't frequent and the ice problem is almost always solved by the next
day. We spend a lot of money on keeping our streets drivable.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
"Maligning an individual says more about you than the one you malign."
http://web.mac.com/barbschaller; blahblahblog 10/13/2006
http://jamlady.eboard.com

In ,
Lynette Hebert > typed:
> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself
> again.
> My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on Lake
> Sam
> Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group that live
> where
> it snows alot buy your food for the winter time.

What is this "snow"? Isn't that stuff just in movies and on
television?
<eg>

BOB

Lynette Hebert wrote:
> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself
> again. My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on
> Lake Sam Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group
> that live where it snows alot buy your food for the winter time.
> Since you are snowed in quite often and cant get out .. how much
> planning ahead do you have to do in order to survive the cold snowy
> days of winter.. I myself live out in the woods and about 50 miles
> from the nearest big grocery store..and I still run out of major food
> supplies. Granted...I don't get snow here but do have to plan ahead
> to some extent because stores are few and far between. Anyone care to
> respond ? Just curious .. Lynn

Doesn't snow much if at all here in west Tennessee. We do get hit with the
occasional (say every decade) ice storm which makes driving a pure mess.
Snow I can deal with; ice is a pain in the a**. Having said that, I always
keep a supply of canned and dry goods on hand. This includes dry non-fat
milk. Unless you're without power for a week most meat in the freezer will
keep just fine as long as you don't open the door constantly. But really,
if it's *that* cold outside you can always store your frozen goods in a
cooler outside Cast iron cookware and a charcoal grill with a goodly
supply of lump charcoal. It may not be the most comfortable way to cook in
the aftermath of an ice storm but still works!

Jill

Lynette Hebert wrote:

> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself again.
> My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on Lake Sam
> Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group that live where
> it snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since you are snowed in
> quite often and cant get out .. how much planning ahead do you have to do in
> order to survive the cold snowy days of winter.. I myself live out in the
> woods and about 50 miles from the nearest big grocery store..and I still run
> out of major food supplies. Granted...I don't get snow here but do have to
> plan ahead to some extent because stores are few and far between. Anyone
> care to respond ? Just curious ..
> Lynn
>
>
Hi Lynn. I live in Massachusetts. It is rare for us to be
snowed in for more than a day--or maybe 2 if one is a cautious
driver like I am. :-) One gets lots of warning about the
storms, so it is easy to stock up. The stores can get rather
crowded with last-minute shoppers though, and usually the milk
and bread areas are bare. (I sometimes end up there at such
times doing my normal shopping--and totally forgetting that
this is an issue.)

--
Jean B.

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Lynette Hebert wrote:
>
>> I pop in and out of this group quite often. I will introduce myself
>> again. My name is Lynn and I live in the Piney-woods of East TX. on Lake
>> Sam Rayburn. I was just wondering how the people in this group that live
>> where it snows alot buy your food for the winter time. Since you are
>> snowed in quite often and cant get out .. how much planning ahead do you
>> have to do in order to survive the cold snowy days of winter.. I myself
>> live out in the woods and about 50 miles from the nearest big grocery
>> store..and I still run out of major food supplies. Granted...I don't get
>> snow here but do have to plan ahead to some extent because stores are few
>> and far between. Anyone care to respond ? Just curious ..
>> Lynn
Canada is a cold country. It was an insulin free country until we leaglized
this medicine last year. I can now stock up with medicine for the whole
winter; witness the Montreal ice storm a few years back. It is not unusual
for us to get 'weathered in' for weeks at a time. In autumn we load up with
dried beans and smoked meats and treated water and of course wood in case
our natural gas or heating oil supply is shut off. Lots of red beans and
rice and creative soups. Sometimes we are lucky and a moose is driven down
from the mountains and we can shoot him if he ends up in our neighbourhood.
Male moose only though. My brother shot a female one year and was arrested
for it and did time and had to attend classes in moose sexism. We keep this
'woods meat' outside in a meat shed. It's always frozen. Also we store
limes and lemons in order to prevent scurvy; much like the Englishmen on the
high seas in years past.

"Jeff Rainer"

> Canada is a cold country. It was an insulin free country until we
leaglized
> this medicine last year. I can now stock up with medicine for the whole
> winter; witness the Montreal ice storm a few years back. It is not
unusual
> for us to get 'weathered in' for weeks at a time. In autumn we load up
with
> dried beans and smoked meats and treated water and of course wood in case
> our natural gas or heating oil supply is shut off. Lots of red beans and
> rice and creative soups. Sometimes we are lucky and a moose is driven
down
> from the mountains and we can shoot him if he ends up in our
neighbourhood.
> Male moose only though. My brother shot a female one year and was
arrested
> for it and did time and had to attend classes in moose sexism. We keep
this
> 'woods meat' outside in a meat shed. It's always frozen. Also we store
> limes and lemons in order to prevent scurvy; much like the Englishmen on
the
> high seas in years past.
>
>

Hmmm... I find your post a bit odd as I've been to Canada a number of times
and have not seen the situations you mentioned (especially the part about
insulin). Perhaps I was ill informed by my friends!

Our Canadian friends have access to grocery stores, beef, restaurants, and
have no concern whatsoever about scurvy.

I assume your brother is now out of prison regarding his crime for moose
sexism and I wish him well and hope he is more PC now!

Chris in Pearland who seems to have her tongue stuck in her cheek <g>

"Chris Marksberry" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jeff Rainer"
>
>> Canada is a cold country. It was an insulin free country until we
> leaglized
>> this medicine last year. I can now stock up with medicine for the whole
>> winter; witness the Montreal ice storm a few years back. It is not
> unusual
>> for us to get 'weathered in' for weeks at a time. In autumn we load up
> with
>> dried beans and smoked meats and treated water and of course wood in case
>> our natural gas or heating oil supply is shut off. Lots of red beans and
>> rice and creative soups. Sometimes we are lucky and a moose is driven
> down
>> from the mountains and we can shoot him if he ends up in our
> neighbourhood.
>> Male moose only though. My brother shot a female one year and was
> arrested
>> for it and did time and had to attend classes in moose sexism. We keep
> this
>> 'woods meat' outside in a meat shed. It's always frozen. Also we store
>> limes and lemons in order to prevent scurvy; much like the Englishmen on
> the
>> high seas in years past.
>>
>>
>
> Hmmm... I find your post a bit odd as I've been to Canada a number of
> times
> and have not seen the situations you mentioned (especially the part about
> insulin). Perhaps I was ill informed by my friends!
>
> Our Canadian friends have access to grocery stores, beef, restaurants, and
> have no concern whatsoever about scurvy.
>
> I assume your brother is now out of prison regarding his crime for moose
> sexism and I wish him well and hope he is more PC now!
>
> Chris in Pearland who seems to have her tongue stuck in her cheek <g>
>
My brother gets out in 30 days and will do 300 hours of community service
in Moose Factory, Ontario.