News just said Earth Farms has been traced for the e-coli outbreak.

Trader Joe's was also named selling this brand but couldn't catch the
others listed.

News said washing/cooking will not help and spinach bought since aug.
1st. including canned and frozen should be thrown out.

Been trying to keep up on this as I am a diabetic and do eat a lot of
fresh spinach.

(ms. tonya) wrote in
:

> News just said Earth Farms has been traced for the e-coli
> outbreak.
>
> Trader Joe's was also named selling this brand but couldn't
> catch the others listed.
>
> News said washing/cooking will not help and spinach bought
> since aug. 1st. including canned and frozen should be thrown
> out.
>
> Been trying to keep up on this as I am a diabetic and do eat a
> lot of fresh spinach.

Why do you start new threads on the spinach issue?

Just curious.

Thanks

sandi > wrote:
>
>Why do you start new threads on the spinach issue?

Because if she starts a thread on the salmon issue
she's gonna get yelled at.

--Blair

"ms. tonya" wrote:
>
> News just said Earth Farms has been traced for the e-coli outbreak.

No, it's the Earthbound Farms brand of Natural Selection Foods.

Sheesh! Get the names right when levelling accusations.

ms. tonya > wrote:
>News just said Earth Farms has been traced for the e-coli outbreak.
>
>Trader Joe's was also named selling this brand but couldn't catch the
>others listed.

The agribusiness is:

Natural Selection Foods

which sells spinach to these packers:

Earthbound Farm
Dole
Green Harvest
Ready Pac
Rave Spinach
Trader Joe's

Known-bad spinach came from single farm in California, though
the company runs other farms in CA and other states.

The recall is "recommended" not mandatory, in AZ; your state
may vary.

>News said washing/cooking will not help and spinach bought since aug.
>1st. including canned and frozen should be thrown out.

News also says Bush was elected.

--Blair
"News is not a reliable
source of information."

Blair P. Houghton > wrote in
m:

> ms. tonya > wrote:
>>News just said Earth Farms has been traced for the e-coli
>>outbreak.
>>
>>Trader Joe's was also named selling this brand but couldn't
>>catch the others listed.
>
> The agribusiness is:
>
> Natural Selection Foods
>
> which sells spinach to these packers:
>
> Earthbound Farm
> Dole
> Green Harvest
> Ready Pac
> Rave Spinach
> Trader Joe's
>
> Known-bad spinach came from single farm in California,
> though the company runs other farms in CA and other states.

so, unless you live in the Valley in CA, if you buy local,
you shouldn't have a problem (although the likelihood of
having a problem is pretty low unless you're immunocompromised
anyway. granted, an e.coli infection is less than fun, but
it's rarely fatal. you may feel like you want to die, but...)

>>News said washing/cooking will not help and spinach bought
>>since aug. 1st. including canned and frozen should be
>>thrown out.
>
> News also says Bush was elected.

so, what weird agenda is Bush pushing today that the news has
to be flooded with "hey! look over there!!!" type news?
lee <ghods, that drives me nuts>


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson

I understand they are drilling to test for the bad E. coli strain in
the groundwater used to irrigate the spinach. If the fields in question
are near Natural Selection Farms (I love the Darwinian irony) at 1721
San Juan Highway north of San Juan Bautista, then they need to test the
spinach and the groundwater for perchlorate as well. There is an
unmapped perchlorate plume in the San Benito River wash that runs
through there -- the origin upstream is an old Teledyne explosive
bolt/airbag factory next to the Hollister sewage treatment plant. The
west coast distributor of perchlorate-tainted Chilean nitrate
fertilizer is just up the road in Gilroy.

LLL

http://www.perchlorate.org

URL on perchlorate site up the San Benito River wash from Natural
Selection spinach:

http://www.regenesis.com/library/Cas...er.CA.Case.pdf


LLL

http://www.perchlorate.org

P. S. Don't necessarily trust the CDC/feds on this, as their boss Mike
Leavitt is from the sole perchlorate manufacturing town in the US,
Cedar City UT.

enigma > wrote:
>Blair P. Houghton > wrote in
om:
>
>> ms. tonya > wrote:
>>>News just said Earth Farms has been traced for the e-coli
>>>outbreak.
>>>
>>>Trader Joe's was also named selling this brand but couldn't
>>>catch the others listed.
>>
>> The agribusiness is:
>>
>> Natural Selection Foods
>>
>> which sells spinach to these packers:
>>
>> Earthbound Farm
>> Dole
>> Green Harvest
>> Ready Pac
>> Rave Spinach
>> Trader Joe's
>>
>> Known-bad spinach came from single farm in California,
>> though the company runs other farms in CA and other states.
>
> so, unless you live in the Valley in CA, if you buy local,
>you shouldn't have a problem (although the likelihood of
>having a problem is pretty low unless you're immunocompromised
>anyway. granted, an e.coli infection is less than fun, but
>it's rarely fatal. you may feel like you want to die, but...)

If you live anywhere those brands are sold, you're at risk.

Trucks can take "fresh produce" coast to coast, all depending
on what truck going that way has space and where they need
the spinach.

>>>News said washing/cooking will not help and spinach bought
>>>since aug. 1st. including canned and frozen should be
>>>thrown out.
>>
>> News also says Bush was elected.
>
> so, what weird agenda is Bush pushing today that the news has
>to be flooded with "hey! look over there!!!" type news?
>lee <ghods, that drives me nuts>

What isn't? At this point, his every utterance is designed
to pretend he hasn't decimated the constitution, violated
the law, murdered military personnel through idiotic orders,
and turned America in to a third-world nation.

--Blair

Blair P. Houghton > wrote in
:

>> so, unless you live in the Valley in CA, if you buy local,
>>you shouldn't have a problem (although the likelihood of
>>having a problem is pretty low unless you're
>>immunocompromised anyway. granted, an e.coli infection is
>>less than fun, but it's rarely fatal. you may feel like you
>>want to die, but...)
>
> If you live anywhere those brands are sold, you're at risk.

you missed the point of "buy local"... as in locally grown.
fall crop spinich should be available from local farms about
now in most places.

> Trucks can take "fresh produce" coast to coast, all
> depending on what truck going that way has space and where
> they need the spinach.

yes, i know that. however, many places have farmer's markets
that sell fresh *local* produce, not agribusiness stuff. i'm a
farmer. i know where MY food comes from.

>>>>News said washing/cooking will not help and spinach
>>>>bought since aug. 1st. including canned and frozen should
>>>>be thrown out.
>>>
>>> News also says Bush was elected.
>>
>> so, what weird agenda is Bush pushing today that the news
>> has
>>to be flooded with "hey! look over there!!!" type news?
>>lee <ghods, that drives me nuts>
>
> What isn't? At this point, his every utterance is designed
> to pretend he hasn't decimated the constitution, violated
> the law, murdered military personnel through idiotic
> orders, and turned America in to a third-world nation.

well, we agree on that
i register my truck this month, so i can get new plates. i'm
debating between ANTIWAR or IMPEACH (i can use 7
letters/numbers, but 4QBUSH won't pass the censors<g>)

lee
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson

"enigma" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> well, we agree on that
> i register my truck this month, so i can get new plates. i'm
> debating between ANTIWAR or IMPEACH (i can use 7
> letters/numbers, but 4QBUSH won't pass the censors<g>)

How about...BUKFUSH...or 2008YET...or WWJD/WWJB...or NOMOWAR...?

Mary

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:27:34 +0000 (UTC), enigma >
wrote:

> well, we agree on that
>i register my truck this month, so i can get new plates. i'm
>debating between ANTIWAR or IMPEACH (i can use 7
>letters/numbers, but 4QBUSH won't pass the censors<g>)
>
>lee

Another ****ing lost whiner. Hey, it's a food group idiot. I don't
give a **** what your politics are. They don't belong here.

Take them somewhere else, you ****ing idiot.

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 03:12:07 GMT, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:

>>> News also says Bush was elected.
>>
>> so, what weird agenda is Bush pushing today that the news has
>>to be flooded with "hey! look over there!!!" type news?
>>lee <ghods, that drives me nuts>
>
>What isn't? At this point, his every utterance is designed
>to pretend he hasn't decimated the constitution, violated
>the law, murdered military personnel through idiotic orders,
>and turned America in to a third-world nation.
>
> --Blair

Who gives a rats ass what you think of the President. Do us all a
favor and go to: retards.who.hate.bush.com and post your bullshit
there. Then we can all enjoy the food group without your crap.

USA IS WONDERFUL > wrote:
>Who gives a rats ass what you think of the President. Do us all a
>favor and go to: retards.who.hate.bush.com and post your bullshit
>there. Then we can all enjoy the food group without your crap.

Thank you for using the freedom of speech that the Liberals
who founded this country bought for you by killing and
deporting Conservatives.

By the way, "fastmail.fm" is served from Micronesia, a
foreign nation.

Idiot.

--Blair

On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:15:07 GMT, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:

>News also says Bush was elected.

He was. Twice. Partly because I voted for him both times.

Thanks for noticing.

USA IS WONDERFUL > wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:15:07 GMT, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
>
>>News also says Bush was elected.
>
>He was. Twice. Partly because I voted for him both times.
>
>Thanks for noticing.

No, he wasn't. Diebold hacked his machines to "deliver Ohio"
in 2004, and when the votes were finally counted from the
2000 election in Florida, Gore won.

Thanks for lying. It helps me to demonize your traitorous
kind.

Do you use that Micronesian email server because of
your pedophilia collection or your communications
with al Quaeda?

--Blair

Blair P. Houghton wrote:
> USA IS WONDERFUL > wrote:
> >On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:15:07 GMT, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
> >
> >>News also says Bush was elected.
> >
> >He was. Twice. Partly because I voted for him both times.
> >
> >Thanks for noticing.
>
> No, he wasn't. Diebold hacked his machines to "deliver Ohio"
> in 2004, and when the votes were finally counted from the
> 2000 election in Florida, Gore won.

What total bullshit. Nobody hacked anything you fool. That's a losers
excuse. You can't offer any proof of the accusation because none
exists. It's a blatent lie.

It was also proven that the count had GW Bush winning. You're a liar.

You losers are pathetic.

> Thanks for lying. It helps me to demonize your traitorous
> kind.

I didn't lie. YOU DID. Ok wise ass, show the group your PROOF. It has
to be absolute proof that what you've said is true.

hahahahahahahaah, you can't, asshole.

> Do you use that Micronesian email server because of
> your pedophilia collection or your communications
> with al Quaeda?
--Blair

Neither. I use it to keep in touch with your sister. She's in al Quaeda
and it's the only way I can contact her when a new ship comes into
harbor for her to service.

> wrote:
>
>Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>> USA IS WONDERFUL > wrote:
>> >On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:15:07 GMT, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
>> >
>> >>News also says Bush was elected.
>> >
>> >He was. Twice. Partly because I voted for him both times.
>> >
>> >Thanks for noticing.
>>
>> No, he wasn't. Diebold hacked his machines to "deliver Ohio"
>> in 2004, and when the votes were finally counted from the
>> 2000 election in Florida, Gore won.
>
>What total bullshit. Nobody hacked anything you fool. That's a losers
>excuse. You can't offer any proof of the accusation because none
>exists. It's a blatent lie.

No, it isn't. It's been shown that the Ohio machines
were not credible.

>It was also proven that the count had GW Bush winning. You're a liar.

No, it wasn't.

Here. Have some facts. Note that the truth is in choice #1,
"Prevailing Statewide Standard," the method that would
have been used had they recounted the whole state using
the state's existing method:

rbbomber (rbbomber) wrote in message news7e483417.0308140734.33f500ff):
>Here's a bit of a catchup: Because five partisan members of the
> U. S. Supreme Court stopped any possibility of an official recount in
> Florida in 2000, perhaps the best data we have are from the National
> Opinion Research Center's report of the ballots there. Here's the
> result:
> Nine scenarios were used in NORC's Florida ballot study. Below is
> a quick breakdown showing the identifier for each and the result for
> each, horse-race style.
> 1. Prevailing Statewide Standard: GORE WINS
> 2. Supreme Court 'simple' scenario: BUSH WINS
> 3. Supreme Court 'complex' scenario: BUSH WINS
> 4. 67-county custom standards scenario: GORE WINS
> 5. 2-corners-detached statewide scenario: GORE WINS
> 6. 'Most inclusive' statewide scenario: GORE WINS
> 7. 'Most restrictive' statewide scenario: BUSH WINS
> 8. Gore 4-county recount strategy scenario: BUSH WINS
> 9. 'Dimples when other dimples present' scenario: GORE WINS"
>
> The most newsworthy scenario at the time was #8, in which Mr. Gore got
> exactly what he sought: a recount in four counties he thought
> favorable to him and nowhere else. As the media pointed out, he still
> lost Florida. To their great credit, the media also reported the
> results of NORC's other scenarios (above), but not much attention
> seemed to be paid to them at the time.

When the votes were actually counted, Gore won.

Republicans hate facts.

>You losers are pathetic.

Nazis like you own the whole bottom of the spectrum.

>> Thanks for lying. It helps me to demonize your traitorous
>> kind.
>
>I didn't lie. YOU DID. Ok wise ass, show the group your PROOF. It has
>to be absolute proof that what you've said is true.
>
>hahahahahahahaah, you can't, asshole.

No, you can't for one second show that Bush has been
good for this nation, and it makes you want to die.

>
>> Do you use that Micronesian email server because of
>> your pedophilia collection or your communications
>> with al Quaeda?
>
>Neither. I use it to keep in touch with your sister. She's in al Quaeda
>and it's the only way I can contact her when a new ship comes into
>harbor for her to service.

Face it. You're a toddler.

--Blair

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:15:29 -0400, (ms. tonya)
wrote:

>News just said Earth Farms has been traced for the e-coli outbreak.
>
>Trader Joe's was also named selling this brand but couldn't catch the
>others listed.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/

sf wrote in :

> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:15:29 -0400, (ms.
> tonya) wrote:
>
>>News just said Earth Farms has been traced for the e-coli
>>outbreak.
>>
>>Trader Joe's was also named selling this brand but couldn't
>>catch the others listed.
>
> http://usgovinfo.about.com/

http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2006/NEW01451.html

ms. tonya wrote:
> News said washing/cooking will not help and spinach bought since aug.
> 1st. including canned and frozen should be thrown out.
>


Never let the facts get in the way of a good story. Cooking the spinach
(or using canned) will definitely prevent this. But that doesn't help
feed the collective hissy-fit, which of course is what sells.

Bob

zxcvbob > wrote in
:

> ms. tonya wrote:
>> News said washing/cooking will not help and spinach bought
>> since aug. 1st. including canned and frozen should be
>> thrown out.
>>
>
>
> Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
> Cooking the spinach (or using canned) will definitely
> prevent this. But that doesn't help feed the collective
> hissy-fit, which of course is what sells.

notice how the collective hissy fit is expanding to include
all fresh vegetables, particularly organically grown?
odd.
lee


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson

enigma > wrote:
>zxcvbob > wrote in
:
>
>> ms. tonya wrote:
>>> News said washing/cooking will not help and spinach bought
>>> since aug. 1st. including canned and frozen should be
>>> thrown out.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
>> Cooking the spinach (or using canned) will definitely
>> prevent this. But that doesn't help feed the collective
>> hissy-fit, which of course is what sells.
>
> notice how the collective hissy fit is expanding to include
>all fresh vegetables, particularly organically grown?
> odd.

It's my impression that the gummint has been trying
not to implicate all organic foods in this.

But then they started hearing the "terrorism" rumors
and now is deflecting THAT panic by saying "no, it's
just organic food."

--Blair