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I sure like all the help I am getting..YES I am learning a lot..the
trick is to do it and stay away from the carbs..I do like them..I
remember my mother when she was younger made home made bread..so we were
brought up on carbs..nothing like home made bread and butter..it is a
wonder I am not as big as I am..being the youngest of 8 girls my mother
had t feed us without any man help..(long story)

I do have several books on diets..the one I like the most is Dr.
Phil..he suggest 3 balance meals and 2 snacks..no white flour or white
potatoes and no process food..no tv dinners.. no measuring food portion
control..drink your water...
take every thing out of the house that is not good for you..BUT I have a
problem with that because of my husband & son living here too..so I have
my stuff and they have theres...very tempting HMM.

I am in control of my life and I have to take care of me..so again I
will write things down on a journal every thing I eat and have a book on
carbs ...I know you need some carbs to stay healthy so that is confusing
to me..

I eat grits, 7grain WW bread, lots of veggie..any other carbs that is on
the list.how about sweet potatoes?

Hope you don't think I am to pushy..Just need a support group for
help...JOY

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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:52:50 -0500, Susan
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>
>Dr. Phil is kinda fat and doughy around the middle.
>

It should be kinda interesting answering his first post
here.

Or Oprah's...who used to fit that description too.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Joy...

Weight loss diets are not all geared toward diabetics.

Grits and 7 grain bread may or may not be suitable for you... even if
Dr. Phil says so ; )

Your meter is the best weapon you have in this battle. It's not just
about writing down what you eat, but also what your meter tells you
AFTER you eat.

Here's the advice I give all newbies:

Sounds like you're planning a move to take control of your diabetes... good
for you.

There is so much to absorb... you don't have to rush into anything. Begin
by using your best weapon in this war, your meter. You won't keel over
today, you have time to experiment, test, learn, test and figure out just
how your body and this disease are getting along. The most important
thing you can do to learn about yourself and diabetes is test test test.

More than most anything, what you eat will affect your diabetes and
your blood glucose numbers.

And more than anything you eat, carbs will affect your diabetes and
your blood glucose numbers.

So, the most important information you can begin to compile about
yourself, is how your body handles carbs.

This sounds like you would need a low carb food plan right?

You don't... what you need to uncover is YOUR Personalized Carb Number.

Which actually works better for most everyone. Because low to one
person is wildly high to another, but waaaaay too low for someone
else.

Is low carb less than 30g a day? Is it anything less than the
Pyramid reccomendations?

Finding your Personalized Carb Number is easy.

Here's how you can figure out your own Personalized Carb Number.

The single biggest question a diabetic has to answer is:

What do I eat?

Unfortunately, the answer is pretty confusing.

What confounds us all is the fact that different diabetics can get great
results on wildly different food plans. Some of us here achieve
great blood glucose control eating a high complex carbohydrate diet.
Others find that anything over 75 - 100g of carbs a day is too
much. Still others are somewhere in between.

At the beginning all of us felt frustrated. We wanted to be handed
THE way to eat, to ensure our continued health. But we all
learned that there is no one way. Each of us had to find our own path,
using the experience of those that went before, but still having
to discover for ourselves how OUR bodies and this disease were coexisting.

Ask questions, but remember each of us discovered on our own what works best
for us. You can use our experiences as jumping off points, but eventually
you'll work up a successful plan that is yours alone.

What you are looking to discover is how different foods affect you. As I'm
sure you've read, carbohydrates (sugars, wheat, rice... the things our
Grandmas called "starches") raise blood sugars the most rapidly. Protein
and fat do raise them, but not as high and much more slowly... so if you're
a T2, generally the insulin your body still makes may take care of the rise.

You might want to try some experiments.

First: Eat whatever you've been
currently eating... but write it all down.
Test yourself at the following times:

Upon waking (fasting)
1 hour after each meal
2 hours after each meal
At bedtime

That means 8 x each day. What you will discover by this is how long
after a meal your highest reading comes... and how fast you return to
"normal". Also, you may see that a meal that included bread, fruit or
other carbs gives you a higher reading.

Then for the next few days, try to curb your carbs. Eliminate breads,
cereals, rices, beans, any wheat products, potato, corn, fruit... get all
your carbs from veggies. Test at the same schedule above.

If you try this for a few days, you may find some pretty damn good
readings. It's worth a few days to discover.

Eventually you can slowly add back carbs until you see them affecting your
meter.

The thing about this disease... though we share much in common and we
need to
follow certain guidelines... in the end, each of our bodies dictate our
treatment and our success.

The closer we get to non-diabetic numbers, the greater chance we have of
avoiding horrible complications. The key here is AIM... I know that
everyone is at a different point in their disease... and it is progressive.
But, if we aim for the best numbers and do our best, we give ourselves the
best shot at heath we've got.
That's all we can do.

Here's my opinion on what numbers to aim for, they are non-diabetic numbers.

FBG under 100
One hour after meals under 140
Two hours after meals under 120

or for those in the mmol parts of the world:

Fasting Under 6
One hour after meals Under 8
Two hours after meals Under 6.5

Recent studies have indicated that the most important numbers are your
"after meal" numbers. They may be the most indicative of future
complications, especially heart problems.

Listen to your doctor, but you are the leader of your diabetic
care team. While his /her advice is learned, it is not absolute. You
will end up knowing much more about your body and how it's handling
diabetes than your doctor will. Your meter is your best weapon.

Just remember, we're not in a race or a competition with anyone but
ourselves... Play around with your food plan... TEST TEST TEST. Learn what
foods cause spikes, what foods cause cravings... Use your body as a science
experiment.

You'll read about a lot of different ways people use to control their
diabetes... Many are diametrically opposed. After awhile you'll learn that
there is no one size fits all around here. Take some time to experiment
and you'll soon discover the plan that works for you.

Best of luck!

Jennifer


JH wrote:

> I sure like all the help I am getting..YES I am learning a lot..the
> trick is to do it and stay away from the carbs..I do like them..I
> remember my mother when she was younger made home made bread..so we were
> brought up on carbs..nothing like home made bread and butter..it is a
> wonder I am not as big as I am..being the youngest of 8 girls my mother
> had t feed us without any man help..(long story)
>
> I do have several books on diets..the one I like the most is Dr.
> Phil..he suggest 3 balance meals and 2 snacks..no white flour or white
> potatoes and no process food..no tv dinners.. no measuring food portion
> control..drink your water...
> take every thing out of the house that is not good for you..BUT I have a
> problem with that because of my husband & son living here too..so I have
> my stuff and they have theres...very tempting HMM.
>
> I am in control of my life and I have to take care of me..so again I
> will write things down on a journal every thing I eat and have a book on
> carbs ...I know you need some carbs to stay healthy so that is confusing
> to me..
>
> I eat grits, 7grain WW bread, lots of veggie..any other carbs that is on
> the list.how about sweet potatoes?
>
> Hope you don't think I am to pushy..Just need a support group for
> help...JOY
>


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Thanks Jennifer...I saved you letter...
First of all I am not sure if I am a diabetic. My Dr. said if my glucose
gets worse I may become a diabetic..he suggested I stay on a 1200
calorie diet nothing else was said...What I am trying to do is learn
learn learn and find out about low carb diets...and learn information on
diabetic..

I have lots of diets and find out I am having trouble losing weight..I
am 5' 1"
I weight 145...I can't go below that..I would love to be 130...I stay
size 14..This just might be my size and I should be happy with that
...but I know for sure I have to lower my carb intake...it is very hard
because I crave it ...as I am sure we all do...

I have to get off this for today..so please keep in touch...I might just
be a type 2 diabetic...any ways have a good day..JOY

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"JH" > wrote in message
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> Thanks Jennifer...I saved you letter...
> First of all I am not sure if I am a diabetic. My Dr. said if my glucose
> gets worse I may become a diabetic..


Joy, if I were you I'd ask him for the test results. But either way, eating
like you were a diabetic might be a lifesaver.

Nicky.

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1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
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