Angela is sick. I don't know what is going on. She restarted the Metformin
and is now up to 2 pills per day. Will up it to 3 tomorrow. That will be
1,500.

It started with diarrhea but I don't really think this is from the Metformin
because she took that dose for many days with no problem. She was also very
tired, cranky and had an ear ache, sore throat and runny nose

She already had a Drs. appointment for the follow-up on her hand/arm twitch
which had resolved. So we mentioned the other symptoms.

Dr. said she had a slightly red and swollen ear and wasn't going to do
anything about it. Said that things like this resolve on their own in kids
her age. I pointed out that the last ear infection did not resolve itself.
It started in May and kept going until June!

So she prescribed Azytrhromycin but said not to give it to her unless she
got a fever. I did anyway. But not right away. I waited 2 days until she
was screaming with ear pain. I didn't actually take her temperature because
I still do not have an accurate thermometer and refuse to keep buying them.
I have bought dozens over the years. They will show us with a fever and
then we will go to the Dr. and be found to have a normal temperature. Or
they show us with no fever and the Dr. says we have one! Anyway she went
from feeling chilled (it was a warm day) to sweating (and by then it had
cooled off). She felt hot to the touch. So that was on Sunday. She was
also sleeping a lot. I had to wake her. And she was going to bed early.
Neither thing is like her.

She missed school on Friday. I didn't really believe she was sick at first.
She said she had diarrhea and complained of the ear, throat and runny nose.
Got right back in bed and ate nothing that day but a few bites of cereal and
only because I told her she had to eat something.

Since then she has eaten little. Was having one bout of diarrhea a day.
Seemed to resolve with a store brand Imodium. But then late last night she
got up from bed, almost crying from stomach pain. Severe diarrhea! Took
the maximum dose of the store brand Imodium which is 4 pills. First 2, then
1 then another 1. She stayed up, hovering over a bowl not sure which way
she was going to get sick. I finally gave her a can of diet ginger ale and
then she felt a bit better.

I debated taking her to the Dr. again today but so far no diarrhea. However
she says she does feel sick to her stomach.

Her Endo. is not in on Tuesdays. Apparently he is there early in the
morning for some kind of appointment but then he leaves. I don't know if he
does surgery or what but he does not answer calls today. So I didn't bother
trying to call to see if this stomach stuff could be from the Metformin.
But the family practitioner she saw didn't seem to think so. Her
pediatrician was booked up so she saw another Dr.

She really hasn't been eating much. She had some gluten free fish sticks
for breakfast and I made her a small amount of plain white rice for lunch.
Neither of these things are low carb, I know. We may have some yogurt.
Not sure but if we do it will be the flavored kind. She won't eat plain. I
am not sure about giving her toast. She can't eat regular bread. Normally
she eats some made of corn flour which would be bad. I just got the new
order. There is some made of tapioca. Would that work for her problem? I
do have a few slices of some mixed grain, high fiber stuff. I know that
would be bad. We do have all kinds of applesauce. No bananas in the house.
I do have a couple of chicken breasts I could cook, plenty of canned
chicken, chicken broth and also rice pasta.

At this point I think I am going to worry less about carbs and just try to
get her well. Because of her missing 3 days of school she is now flunking
history because she missed a test. They are making it super hard this year
for kids who are absent to make up work! Her math teacher was putting their
assignments online but then she suddenly stopped. So I don't know if she
was sick or what. Angela said tons of kids have been sick.

So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat low
carb .

Thanks!

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
> Angela is sick. I don't know what is going on. She restarted the
> Metformin and is now up to 2 pills per day. Will up it to 3 tomorrow.
> That will be 1,500.
>
> It started with diarrhea but I don't really think this is from the
> Metformin because she took that dose for many days with no problem.
> She was also very tired, cranky and had an ear ache, sore throat and
> runny nose
>
> She already had a Drs. appointment for the follow-up on her hand/arm
> twitch which had resolved. So we mentioned the other symptoms.
>
> Dr. said she had a slightly red and swollen ear and wasn't going to do
> anything about it. Said that things like this resolve on their own in
> kids her age. I pointed out that the last ear infection did not
> resolve itself. It started in May and kept going until June!
>
> So she prescribed Azytrhromycin but said not to give it to her unless
> she got a fever. I did anyway. But not right away. I waited 2 days
> until she was screaming with ear pain. I didn't actually take her
> temperature because I still do not have an accurate thermometer and
> refuse to keep buying them. I have bought dozens over the years. They
> will show us with a fever and then we will go to the Dr. and be found
> to have a normal temperature. Or they show us with no fever and the
> Dr. says we have one! Anyway she went from feeling chilled (it was a
> warm day) to sweating (and by then it had cooled off). She felt hot
> to the touch. So that was on Sunday. She was also sleeping a lot. I
> had to wake her. And she was going to bed early. Neither thing is
> like her.
>
> She missed school on Friday. I didn't really believe she was sick at
> first. She said she had diarrhea and complained of the ear, throat and
> runny nose. Got right back in bed and ate nothing that day but a few
> bites of cereal and only because I told her she had to eat something.
>
> Since then she has eaten little. Was having one bout of diarrhea a
> day. Seemed to resolve with a store brand Imodium. But then late last
> night she got up from bed, almost crying from stomach pain. Severe
> diarrhea! Took the maximum dose of the store brand Imodium which is 4
> pills. First 2, then 1 then another 1. She stayed up, hovering over
> a bowl not sure which way she was going to get sick. I finally gave
> her a can of diet ginger ale and then she felt a bit better.
>
> I debated taking her to the Dr. again today but so far no diarrhea.
> However she says she does feel sick to her stomach.
>
> Her Endo. is not in on Tuesdays. Apparently he is there early in the
> morning for some kind of appointment but then he leaves. I don't know
> if he does surgery or what but he does not answer calls today. So I
> didn't bother trying to call to see if this stomach stuff could be
> from the Metformin. But the family practitioner she saw didn't seem to
> think so. Her pediatrician was booked up so she saw another Dr.
>
> She really hasn't been eating much. She had some gluten free fish
> sticks for breakfast and I made her a small amount of plain white rice
> for lunch. Neither of these things are low carb, I know. We may have
> some yogurt. Not sure but if we do it will be the flavored kind. She
> won't eat plain. I am not sure about giving her toast. She can't eat
> regular bread. Normally she eats some made of corn flour which would
> be bad. I just got the new order. There is some made of tapioca.
> Would that work for her problem? I do have a few slices of some mixed
> grain, high fiber stuff. I know that would be bad. We do have all
> kinds of applesauce. No bananas in the house. I do have a couple of
> chicken breasts I could cook, plenty of canned chicken, chicken broth
> and also rice pasta.
>
> At this point I think I am going to worry less about carbs and just
> try to get her well. Because of her missing 3 days of school she is
> now flunking history because she missed a test. They are making it
> super hard this year for kids who are absent to make up work! Her
> math teacher was putting their assignments online but then she
> suddenly stopped. So I don't know if she was sick or what. Angela
> said tons of kids have been sick.
>
> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat
> low carb .

My mother always gave us grated apple. FWIW none of my kids, even as
teenagers have ever thrown off an ear infection by themselves. My 16
year old has had two in the past few months with a heavy cold. Every
cold we seem to get lately comes with upset stomach as well. Avoid
yoghurt, toast should be ok. Things like milk products and fats often
make stomach upsets worse and more prolonged. I usually stop all
medications when I have upset stomach as well.

Before antibiotics ear infections often led to mastoiditis. Why would a
doctor think that process has changed?

Ozgirl wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Angela is sick. I don't know what is going on. She restarted the
>> Metformin and is now up to 2 pills per day. Will up it to 3
>> tomorrow. That will be 1,500.
>>
>> It started with diarrhea but I don't really think this is from the
>> Metformin because she took that dose for many days with no problem.
>> She was also very tired, cranky and had an ear ache, sore throat and
>> runny nose
>>
>> She already had a Drs. appointment for the follow-up on her hand/arm
>> twitch which had resolved. So we mentioned the other symptoms.
>>
>> Dr. said she had a slightly red and swollen ear and wasn't going to
>> do anything about it. Said that things like this resolve on their
>> own in kids her age. I pointed out that the last ear infection did
>> not resolve itself. It started in May and kept going until June!
>>
>> So she prescribed Azytrhromycin but said not to give it to her unless
>> she got a fever. I did anyway. But not right away. I waited 2 days
>> until she was screaming with ear pain. I didn't actually take her
>> temperature because I still do not have an accurate thermometer and
>> refuse to keep buying them. I have bought dozens over the years. They
>> will show us with a fever and then we will go to the Dr. and be
>> found to have a normal temperature. Or they show us with no fever
>> and the Dr. says we have one! Anyway she went from feeling chilled
>> (it was a warm day) to sweating (and by then it had cooled off). She felt
>> hot to the touch. So that was on Sunday. She was also
>> sleeping a lot. I had to wake her. And she was going to bed early.
>> Neither thing is like her.
>>
>> She missed school on Friday. I didn't really believe she was sick at
>> first. She said she had diarrhea and complained of the ear, throat
>> and runny nose. Got right back in bed and ate nothing that day but a
>> few bites of cereal and only because I told her she had to eat
>> something. Since then she has eaten little. Was having one bout of
>> diarrhea a
>> day. Seemed to resolve with a store brand Imodium. But then late
>> last night she got up from bed, almost crying from stomach pain. Severe
>> diarrhea! Took the maximum dose of the store brand Imodium
>> which is 4 pills. First 2, then 1 then another 1. She stayed up,
>> hovering over a bowl not sure which way she was going to get sick. I
>> finally gave her a can of diet ginger ale and then she felt a bit
>> better. I debated taking her to the Dr. again today but so far no
>> diarrhea.
>> However she says she does feel sick to her stomach.
>>
>> Her Endo. is not in on Tuesdays. Apparently he is there early in the
>> morning for some kind of appointment but then he leaves. I don't
>> know if he does surgery or what but he does not answer calls today. So I
>> didn't bother trying to call to see if this stomach stuff could
>> be from the Metformin. But the family practitioner she saw didn't
>> seem to think so. Her pediatrician was booked up so she saw another
>> Dr. She really hasn't been eating much. She had some gluten free fish
>> sticks for breakfast and I made her a small amount of plain white
>> rice for lunch. Neither of these things are low carb, I know. We
>> may have some yogurt. Not sure but if we do it will be the flavored
>> kind. She won't eat plain. I am not sure about giving her toast. She
>> can't eat regular bread. Normally she eats some made of corn
>> flour which would be bad. I just got the new order. There is some
>> made of tapioca. Would that work for her problem? I do have a few
>> slices of some mixed grain, high fiber stuff. I know that would be
>> bad. We do have all kinds of applesauce. No bananas in the house.
>> I do have a couple of chicken breasts I could cook, plenty of canned
>> chicken, chicken broth and also rice pasta.
>>
>> At this point I think I am going to worry less about carbs and just
>> try to get her well. Because of her missing 3 days of school she is
>> now flunking history because she missed a test. They are making it
>> super hard this year for kids who are absent to make up work! Her
>> math teacher was putting their assignments online but then she
>> suddenly stopped. So I don't know if she was sick or what. Angela
>> said tons of kids have been sick.
>>
>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat
>> low carb .
>
> My mother always gave us grated apple. FWIW none of my kids, even as
> teenagers have ever thrown off an ear infection by themselves. My 16
> year old has had two in the past few months with a heavy cold. Every
> cold we seem to get lately comes with upset stomach as well. Avoid
> yoghurt, toast should be ok. Things like milk products and fats often
> make stomach upsets worse and more prolonged. I usually stop all
> medications when I have upset stomach as well.
>
> Before antibiotics ear infections often led to mastoiditis. Why would
> a doctor think that process has changed?

I wasn't sure about the yogurt because they usually tell her to eat it with
the antibiotics.

As for the ear infections, I don't know why they say that but they all seem
to. Angela was once at the ER where the Dr. said she had a raging ear
infection but he did nothing about it. I think that was the time she wound
up going to my ENT who did prescribe something. For the ear infection prior
they only gave her drops for pain which did nothing at all. I think she
made three trips to the Dr. before they would prescribe something. They
always think it will resolve in its own.

The thing I have had that I have sometimes gotten to resolve is a fungal
infection in the ear. Sometimes if I catch it right away and keep treating
it with half rubbing alcohol and half white vinegar I can kill it. But only
sometimes. Sometimes it just makes it worse by keeping it slightly at bay
and then as soon as I stop using the drops it rapidly mulitplies.

I am going out to buy her some rice cakes. She will need something in her
lunch. I hope, hope, hope she can go to school tomorrow!

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
> Ozgirl wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Angela is sick. I don't know what is going on. She restarted the
>>> Metformin and is now up to 2 pills per day. Will up it to 3
>>> tomorrow. That will be 1,500.
>>>
>>> It started with diarrhea but I don't really think this is from the
>>> Metformin because she took that dose for many days with no problem.
>>> She was also very tired, cranky and had an ear ache, sore throat and
>>> runny nose
>>>
>>> She already had a Drs. appointment for the follow-up on her hand/arm
>>> twitch which had resolved. So we mentioned the other symptoms.
>>>
>>> Dr. said she had a slightly red and swollen ear and wasn't going to
>>> do anything about it. Said that things like this resolve on their
>>> own in kids her age. I pointed out that the last ear infection did
>>> not resolve itself. It started in May and kept going until June!
>>>
>>> So she prescribed Azytrhromycin but said not to give it to her
>>> unless
>>> she got a fever. I did anyway. But not right away. I waited 2
>>> days
>>> until she was screaming with ear pain. I didn't actually take her
>>> temperature because I still do not have an accurate thermometer and
>>> refuse to keep buying them. I have bought dozens over the years.
>>> They will show us with a fever and then we will go to the Dr. and be
>>> found to have a normal temperature. Or they show us with no fever
>>> and the Dr. says we have one! Anyway she went from feeling chilled
>>> (it was a warm day) to sweating (and by then it had cooled off). She
>>> felt hot to the touch. So that was on Sunday. She was also
>>> sleeping a lot. I had to wake her. And she was going to bed early.
>>> Neither thing is like her.
>>>
>>> She missed school on Friday. I didn't really believe she was sick
>>> at
>>> first. She said she had diarrhea and complained of the ear, throat
>>> and runny nose. Got right back in bed and ate nothing that day but a
>>> few bites of cereal and only because I told her she had to eat
>>> something. Since then she has eaten little. Was having one bout of
>>> diarrhea a
>>> day. Seemed to resolve with a store brand Imodium. But then late
>>> last night she got up from bed, almost crying from stomach pain.
>>> Severe diarrhea! Took the maximum dose of the store brand Imodium
>>> which is 4 pills. First 2, then 1 then another 1. She stayed up,
>>> hovering over a bowl not sure which way she was going to get sick. I
>>> finally gave her a can of diet ginger ale and then she felt a bit
>>> better. I debated taking her to the Dr. again today but so far no
>>> diarrhea.
>>> However she says she does feel sick to her stomach.
>>>
>>> Her Endo. is not in on Tuesdays. Apparently he is there early in
>>> the
>>> morning for some kind of appointment but then he leaves. I don't
>>> know if he does surgery or what but he does not answer calls today.
>>> So I didn't bother trying to call to see if this stomach stuff could
>>> be from the Metformin. But the family practitioner she saw didn't
>>> seem to think so. Her pediatrician was booked up so she saw another
>>> Dr. She really hasn't been eating much. She had some gluten free
>>> fish
>>> sticks for breakfast and I made her a small amount of plain white
>>> rice for lunch. Neither of these things are low carb, I know. We
>>> may have some yogurt. Not sure but if we do it will be the flavored
>>> kind. She won't eat plain. I am not sure about giving her toast.
>>> She can't eat regular bread. Normally she eats some made of corn
>>> flour which would be bad. I just got the new order. There is some
>>> made of tapioca. Would that work for her problem? I do have a few
>>> slices of some mixed grain, high fiber stuff. I know that would be
>>> bad. We do have all kinds of applesauce. No bananas in the house.
>>> I do have a couple of chicken breasts I could cook, plenty of canned
>>> chicken, chicken broth and also rice pasta.
>>>
>>> At this point I think I am going to worry less about carbs and just
>>> try to get her well. Because of her missing 3 days of school she
>>> is
>>> now flunking history because she missed a test. They are making it
>>> super hard this year for kids who are absent to make up work! Her
>>> math teacher was putting their assignments online but then she
>>> suddenly stopped. So I don't know if she was sick or what. Angela
>>> said tons of kids have been sick.
>>>
>>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally
>>> eat
>>> low carb .
>>
>> My mother always gave us grated apple. FWIW none of my kids, even as
>> teenagers have ever thrown off an ear infection by themselves. My 16
>> year old has had two in the past few months with a heavy cold. Every
>> cold we seem to get lately comes with upset stomach as well. Avoid
>> yoghurt, toast should be ok. Things like milk products and fats often
>> make stomach upsets worse and more prolonged. I usually stop all
>> medications when I have upset stomach as well.
>>
>> Before antibiotics ear infections often led to mastoiditis. Why would
>> a doctor think that process has changed?
>
> I wasn't sure about the yogurt because they usually tell her to eat it
> with the antibiotics.

Which is ok usually but with diarrhoea it can exacerbate it. I like
probiotic capsules.

"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ozgirl wrote:
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Angela is sick. I don't know what is going on. She restarted the
>>>> Metformin and is now up to 2 pills per day. Will up it to 3
>>>> tomorrow. That will be 1,500.
>>>>
>>>> It started with diarrhea but I don't really think this is from the
>>>> Metformin because she took that dose for many days with no problem.
>>>> She was also very tired, cranky and had an ear ache, sore throat and
>>>> runny nose
>>>>
>>>> She already had a Drs. appointment for the follow-up on her hand/arm
>>>> twitch which had resolved. So we mentioned the other symptoms.
>>>>
>>>> Dr. said she had a slightly red and swollen ear and wasn't going to
>>>> do anything about it. Said that things like this resolve on their
>>>> own in kids her age. I pointed out that the last ear infection did
>>>> not resolve itself. It started in May and kept going until June!
>>>>
>>>> So she prescribed Azytrhromycin but said not to give it to her unless
>>>> she got a fever. I did anyway. But not right away. I waited 2 days
>>>> until she was screaming with ear pain. I didn't actually take her
>>>> temperature because I still do not have an accurate thermometer and
>>>> refuse to keep buying them. I have bought dozens over the years. They
>>>> will show us with a fever and then we will go to the Dr. and be
>>>> found to have a normal temperature. Or they show us with no fever
>>>> and the Dr. says we have one! Anyway she went from feeling chilled
>>>> (it was a warm day) to sweating (and by then it had cooled off). She
>>>> felt hot to the touch. So that was on Sunday. She was also
>>>> sleeping a lot. I had to wake her. And she was going to bed early.
>>>> Neither thing is like her.
>>>>
>>>> She missed school on Friday. I didn't really believe she was sick at
>>>> first. She said she had diarrhea and complained of the ear, throat
>>>> and runny nose. Got right back in bed and ate nothing that day but a
>>>> few bites of cereal and only because I told her she had to eat
>>>> something. Since then she has eaten little. Was having one bout of
>>>> diarrhea a
>>>> day. Seemed to resolve with a store brand Imodium. But then late
>>>> last night she got up from bed, almost crying from stomach pain. Severe
>>>> diarrhea! Took the maximum dose of the store brand Imodium
>>>> which is 4 pills. First 2, then 1 then another 1. She stayed up,
>>>> hovering over a bowl not sure which way she was going to get sick. I
>>>> finally gave her a can of diet ginger ale and then she felt a bit
>>>> better. I debated taking her to the Dr. again today but so far no
>>>> diarrhea.
>>>> However she says she does feel sick to her stomach.
>>>>
>>>> Her Endo. is not in on Tuesdays. Apparently he is there early in the
>>>> morning for some kind of appointment but then he leaves. I don't
>>>> know if he does surgery or what but he does not answer calls today. So
>>>> I didn't bother trying to call to see if this stomach stuff could
>>>> be from the Metformin. But the family practitioner she saw didn't
>>>> seem to think so. Her pediatrician was booked up so she saw another
>>>> Dr. She really hasn't been eating much. She had some gluten free fish
>>>> sticks for breakfast and I made her a small amount of plain white
>>>> rice for lunch. Neither of these things are low carb, I know. We
>>>> may have some yogurt. Not sure but if we do it will be the flavored
>>>> kind. She won't eat plain. I am not sure about giving her toast. She
>>>> can't eat regular bread. Normally she eats some made of corn
>>>> flour which would be bad. I just got the new order. There is some
>>>> made of tapioca. Would that work for her problem? I do have a few
>>>> slices of some mixed grain, high fiber stuff. I know that would be
>>>> bad. We do have all kinds of applesauce. No bananas in the house.
>>>> I do have a couple of chicken breasts I could cook, plenty of canned
>>>> chicken, chicken broth and also rice pasta.
>>>>
>>>> At this point I think I am going to worry less about carbs and just
>>>> try to get her well. Because of her missing 3 days of school she is
>>>> now flunking history because she missed a test. They are making it
>>>> super hard this year for kids who are absent to make up work! Her
>>>> math teacher was putting their assignments online but then she
>>>> suddenly stopped. So I don't know if she was sick or what. Angela
>>>> said tons of kids have been sick.
>>>>
>>>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat
>>>> low carb .
>>>
>>> My mother always gave us grated apple. FWIW none of my kids, even as
>>> teenagers have ever thrown off an ear infection by themselves. My 16
>>> year old has had two in the past few months with a heavy cold. Every
>>> cold we seem to get lately comes with upset stomach as well. Avoid
>>> yoghurt, toast should be ok. Things like milk products and fats often
>>> make stomach upsets worse and more prolonged. I usually stop all
>>> medications when I have upset stomach as well.
>>>
>>> Before antibiotics ear infections often led to mastoiditis. Why would
>>> a doctor think that process has changed?
>>
>> I wasn't sure about the yogurt because they usually tell her to eat it
>> with the antibiotics.
>
> Which is ok usually but with diarrhoea it can exacerbate it. I like
> probiotic capsules.

I've been giving her those too.

Ozgirl wrote:

>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ozgirl wrote:
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Angela is sick. I don't know what is going on. She restarted the
>>>> Metformin and is now up to 2 pills per day. Will up it to 3
>>>> tomorrow. That will be 1,500.
>>>>
>>>> It started with diarrhea but I don't really think this is from the
>>>> Metformin because she took that dose for many days with no problem.
>>>> She was also very tired, cranky and had an ear ache, sore throat and
>>>> runny nose
>>>>
>>>> She already had a Drs. appointment for the follow-up on her hand/arm
>>>> twitch which had resolved. So we mentioned the other symptoms.
>>>>
>>>> Dr. said she had a slightly red and swollen ear and wasn't going to
>>>> do anything about it. Said that things like this resolve on their
>>>> own in kids her age. I pointed out that the last ear infection did
>>>> not resolve itself. It started in May and kept going until June!
>>>>
>>>> So she prescribed Azytrhromycin but said not to give it to her
>>>> unless
>>>> she got a fever. I did anyway. But not right away. I waited 2
>>>> days
>>>> until she was screaming with ear pain. I didn't actually take her
>>>> temperature because I still do not have an accurate thermometer and
>>>> refuse to keep buying them. I have bought dozens over the years.
>>>> They will show us with a fever and then we will go to the Dr. and be
>>>> found to have a normal temperature. Or they show us with no fever
>>>> and the Dr. says we have one! Anyway she went from feeling chilled
>>>> (it was a warm day) to sweating (and by then it had cooled off). She
>>>> felt hot to the touch. So that was on Sunday. She was also
>>>> sleeping a lot. I had to wake her. And she was going to bed early.
>>>> Neither thing is like her.
>>>>
>>>> She missed school on Friday. I didn't really believe she was sick
>>>> at
>>>> first. She said she had diarrhea and complained of the ear, throat
>>>> and runny nose. Got right back in bed and ate nothing that day but a
>>>> few bites of cereal and only because I told her she had to eat
>>>> something. Since then she has eaten little. Was having one bout of
>>>> diarrhea a
>>>> day. Seemed to resolve with a store brand Imodium. But then late
>>>> last night she got up from bed, almost crying from stomach pain.
>>>> Severe diarrhea! Took the maximum dose of the store brand Imodium
>>>> which is 4 pills. First 2, then 1 then another 1. She stayed up,
>>>> hovering over a bowl not sure which way she was going to get sick. I
>>>> finally gave her a can of diet ginger ale and then she felt a bit
>>>> better. I debated taking her to the Dr. again today but so far no
>>>> diarrhea.
>>>> However she says she does feel sick to her stomach.
>>>>
>>>> Her Endo. is not in on Tuesdays. Apparently he is there early in
>>>> the
>>>> morning for some kind of appointment but then he leaves. I don't
>>>> know if he does surgery or what but he does not answer calls today.
>>>> So I didn't bother trying to call to see if this stomach stuff could
>>>> be from the Metformin. But the family practitioner she saw didn't
>>>> seem to think so. Her pediatrician was booked up so she saw another
>>>> Dr. She really hasn't been eating much. She had some gluten free
>>>> fish
>>>> sticks for breakfast and I made her a small amount of plain white
>>>> rice for lunch. Neither of these things are low carb, I know. We
>>>> may have some yogurt. Not sure but if we do it will be the flavored
>>>> kind. She won't eat plain. I am not sure about giving her toast.
>>>> She can't eat regular bread. Normally she eats some made of corn
>>>> flour which would be bad. I just got the new order. There is some
>>>> made of tapioca. Would that work for her problem? I do have a few
>>>> slices of some mixed grain, high fiber stuff. I know that would be
>>>> bad. We do have all kinds of applesauce. No bananas in the house.
>>>> I do have a couple of chicken breasts I could cook, plenty of canned
>>>> chicken, chicken broth and also rice pasta.
>>>>
>>>> At this point I think I am going to worry less about carbs and just
>>>> try to get her well. Because of her missing 3 days of school she
>>>> is
>>>> now flunking history because she missed a test. They are making it
>>>> super hard this year for kids who are absent to make up work! Her
>>>> math teacher was putting their assignments online but then she
>>>> suddenly stopped. So I don't know if she was sick or what. Angela
>>>> said tons of kids have been sick.
>>>>
>>>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally
>>>> eat
>>>> low carb .
>>>
>>> My mother always gave us grated apple. FWIW none of my kids, even as
>>> teenagers have ever thrown off an ear infection by themselves. My 16
>>> year old has had two in the past few months with a heavy cold. Every
>>> cold we seem to get lately comes with upset stomach as well. Avoid
>>> yoghurt, toast should be ok. Things like milk products and fats often
>>> make stomach upsets worse and more prolonged. I usually stop all
>>> medications when I have upset stomach as well.
>>>
>>> Before antibiotics ear infections often led to mastoiditis. Why would
>>> a doctor think that process has changed?
>>
>> I wasn't sure about the yogurt because they usually tell her to eat it
>> with the antibiotics.
>
> Which is ok usually but with diarrhoea it can exacerbate it. I like
> probiotic capsules.

Dried blueberries if you can get them. Or thaw out frozen blueberries and
dry them over low heat.

Strangely enough this works against diarrhea, while fresh blueberries are a
remedy for constipation. This is the European Vaccinium myrtillus, I don't
know if it holds for any of the 5 different North American species ...

From the net:
<quote>
Reportedly, dried blueberries have a long history of use in Sweden as a
treatment for diarrhea. Dr. Varro Tyler in his book, Herbs of Choice,
recommends either chewing dried blueberries or making a tea by boiling
crushed dried blueberries for about 10 minutes.

The helpfulness of blueberries for diarrhea appears to be due to the fact
that they contain tannins, which act as an astringent, contracting tissue
and reducing inflammation and secretion of liquids and mucus. Blueberries
also contain substances called anthocyanosides, which have antibacterial
properties, as well as being a good source of antioxidants. Lastly,
blueberries are another source of the soluble fiber pectin.
</quote>

There's a lot more out there, I searched for "dried blueberries diarrhea".

"Bjørn Steensrud" > wrote in message
...
> Ozgirl wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Ozgirl wrote:
>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Angela is sick. I don't know what is going on. She restarted the
>>>>> Metformin and is now up to 2 pills per day. Will up it to 3
>>>>> tomorrow. That will be 1,500.
>>>>>
>>>>> It started with diarrhea but I don't really think this is from the
>>>>> Metformin because she took that dose for many days with no problem.
>>>>> She was also very tired, cranky and had an ear ache, sore throat and
>>>>> runny nose
>>>>>
>>>>> She already had a Drs. appointment for the follow-up on her hand/arm
>>>>> twitch which had resolved. So we mentioned the other symptoms.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. said she had a slightly red and swollen ear and wasn't going to
>>>>> do anything about it. Said that things like this resolve on their
>>>>> own in kids her age. I pointed out that the last ear infection did
>>>>> not resolve itself. It started in May and kept going until June!
>>>>>
>>>>> So she prescribed Azytrhromycin but said not to give it to her
>>>>> unless
>>>>> she got a fever. I did anyway. But not right away. I waited 2
>>>>> days
>>>>> until she was screaming with ear pain. I didn't actually take her
>>>>> temperature because I still do not have an accurate thermometer and
>>>>> refuse to keep buying them. I have bought dozens over the years.
>>>>> They will show us with a fever and then we will go to the Dr. and be
>>>>> found to have a normal temperature. Or they show us with no fever
>>>>> and the Dr. says we have one! Anyway she went from feeling chilled
>>>>> (it was a warm day) to sweating (and by then it had cooled off). She
>>>>> felt hot to the touch. So that was on Sunday. She was also
>>>>> sleeping a lot. I had to wake her. And she was going to bed early.
>>>>> Neither thing is like her.
>>>>>
>>>>> She missed school on Friday. I didn't really believe she was sick
>>>>> at
>>>>> first. She said she had diarrhea and complained of the ear, throat
>>>>> and runny nose. Got right back in bed and ate nothing that day but a
>>>>> few bites of cereal and only because I told her she had to eat
>>>>> something. Since then she has eaten little. Was having one bout of
>>>>> diarrhea a
>>>>> day. Seemed to resolve with a store brand Imodium. But then late
>>>>> last night she got up from bed, almost crying from stomach pain.
>>>>> Severe diarrhea! Took the maximum dose of the store brand Imodium
>>>>> which is 4 pills. First 2, then 1 then another 1. She stayed up,
>>>>> hovering over a bowl not sure which way she was going to get sick. I
>>>>> finally gave her a can of diet ginger ale and then she felt a bit
>>>>> better. I debated taking her to the Dr. again today but so far no
>>>>> diarrhea.
>>>>> However she says she does feel sick to her stomach.
>>>>>
>>>>> Her Endo. is not in on Tuesdays. Apparently he is there early in
>>>>> the
>>>>> morning for some kind of appointment but then he leaves. I don't
>>>>> know if he does surgery or what but he does not answer calls today.
>>>>> So I didn't bother trying to call to see if this stomach stuff could
>>>>> be from the Metformin. But the family practitioner she saw didn't
>>>>> seem to think so. Her pediatrician was booked up so she saw another
>>>>> Dr. She really hasn't been eating much. She had some gluten free
>>>>> fish
>>>>> sticks for breakfast and I made her a small amount of plain white
>>>>> rice for lunch. Neither of these things are low carb, I know. We
>>>>> may have some yogurt. Not sure but if we do it will be the flavored
>>>>> kind. She won't eat plain. I am not sure about giving her toast.
>>>>> She can't eat regular bread. Normally she eats some made of corn
>>>>> flour which would be bad. I just got the new order. There is some
>>>>> made of tapioca. Would that work for her problem? I do have a few
>>>>> slices of some mixed grain, high fiber stuff. I know that would be
>>>>> bad. We do have all kinds of applesauce. No bananas in the house.
>>>>> I do have a couple of chicken breasts I could cook, plenty of canned
>>>>> chicken, chicken broth and also rice pasta.
>>>>>
>>>>> At this point I think I am going to worry less about carbs and just
>>>>> try to get her well. Because of her missing 3 days of school she
>>>>> is
>>>>> now flunking history because she missed a test. They are making it
>>>>> super hard this year for kids who are absent to make up work! Her
>>>>> math teacher was putting their assignments online but then she
>>>>> suddenly stopped. So I don't know if she was sick or what. Angela
>>>>> said tons of kids have been sick.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally
>>>>> eat
>>>>> low carb .
>>>>
>>>> My mother always gave us grated apple. FWIW none of my kids, even as
>>>> teenagers have ever thrown off an ear infection by themselves. My 16
>>>> year old has had two in the past few months with a heavy cold. Every
>>>> cold we seem to get lately comes with upset stomach as well. Avoid
>>>> yoghurt, toast should be ok. Things like milk products and fats often
>>>> make stomach upsets worse and more prolonged. I usually stop all
>>>> medications when I have upset stomach as well.
>>>>
>>>> Before antibiotics ear infections often led to mastoiditis. Why would
>>>> a doctor think that process has changed?
>>>
>>> I wasn't sure about the yogurt because they usually tell her to eat it
>>> with the antibiotics.
>>
>> Which is ok usually but with diarrhoea it can exacerbate it. I like
>> probiotic capsules.
>
> Dried blueberries if you can get them. Or thaw out frozen blueberries and
> dry them over low heat.
>
> Strangely enough this works against diarrhea, while fresh blueberries are
> a
> remedy for constipation. This is the European Vaccinium myrtillus, I don't
> know if it holds for any of the 5 different North American species ...
>
> From the net:
> <quote>
> Reportedly, dried blueberries have a long history of use in Sweden as a
> treatment for diarrhea. Dr. Varro Tyler in his book, Herbs of Choice,
> recommends either chewing dried blueberries or making a tea by boiling
> crushed dried blueberries for about 10 minutes.
>
> The helpfulness of blueberries for diarrhea appears to be due to the fact
> that they contain tannins, which act as an astringent, contracting tissue
> and reducing inflammation and secretion of liquids and mucus. Blueberries
> also contain substances called anthocyanosides, which have antibacterial
> properties, as well as being a good source of antioxidants. Lastly,
> blueberries are another source of the soluble fiber pectin.
> </quote>
>
> There's a lot more out there, I searched for "dried blueberries diarrhea".

Thanks but there is no way I could get her to eat blueberries. She likes
them as much as I do which is not at all.

"BjørnSteensrud" > wrote in message
...
> Ozgirl wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Ozgirl wrote:
>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Angela is sick. I don't know what is going on. She restarted the
>>>>> Metformin and is now up to 2 pills per day. Will up it to 3
>>>>> tomorrow. That will be 1,500.
>>>>>
>>>>> It started with diarrhea but I don't really think this is from the
>>>>> Metformin because she took that dose for many days with no
>>>>> problem.
>>>>> She was also very tired, cranky and had an ear ache, sore throat
>>>>> and
>>>>> runny nose
>>>>>
>>>>> She already had a Drs. appointment for the follow-up on her
>>>>> hand/arm
>>>>> twitch which had resolved. So we mentioned the other symptoms.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. said she had a slightly red and swollen ear and wasn't going
>>>>> to
>>>>> do anything about it. Said that things like this resolve on their
>>>>> own in kids her age. I pointed out that the last ear infection
>>>>> did
>>>>> not resolve itself. It started in May and kept going until June!
>>>>>
>>>>> So she prescribed Azytrhromycin but said not to give it to her
>>>>> unless
>>>>> she got a fever. I did anyway. But not right away. I waited 2
>>>>> days
>>>>> until she was screaming with ear pain. I didn't actually take her
>>>>> temperature because I still do not have an accurate thermometer
>>>>> and
>>>>> refuse to keep buying them. I have bought dozens over the years.
>>>>> They will show us with a fever and then we will go to the Dr. and
>>>>> be
>>>>> found to have a normal temperature. Or they show us with no fever
>>>>> and the Dr. says we have one! Anyway she went from feeling
>>>>> chilled
>>>>> (it was a warm day) to sweating (and by then it had cooled off).
>>>>> She
>>>>> felt hot to the touch. So that was on Sunday. She was also
>>>>> sleeping a lot. I had to wake her. And she was going to bed
>>>>> early.
>>>>> Neither thing is like her.
>>>>>
>>>>> She missed school on Friday. I didn't really believe she was sick
>>>>> at
>>>>> first. She said she had diarrhea and complained of the ear, throat
>>>>> and runny nose. Got right back in bed and ate nothing that day but
>>>>> a
>>>>> few bites of cereal and only because I told her she had to eat
>>>>> something. Since then she has eaten little. Was having one bout
>>>>> of
>>>>> diarrhea a
>>>>> day. Seemed to resolve with a store brand Imodium. But then late
>>>>> last night she got up from bed, almost crying from stomach pain.
>>>>> Severe diarrhea! Took the maximum dose of the store brand Imodium
>>>>> which is 4 pills. First 2, then 1 then another 1. She stayed up,
>>>>> hovering over a bowl not sure which way she was going to get sick.
>>>>> I
>>>>> finally gave her a can of diet ginger ale and then she felt a bit
>>>>> better. I debated taking her to the Dr. again today but so far no
>>>>> diarrhea.
>>>>> However she says she does feel sick to her stomach.
>>>>>
>>>>> Her Endo. is not in on Tuesdays. Apparently he is there early in
>>>>> the
>>>>> morning for some kind of appointment but then he leaves. I don't
>>>>> know if he does surgery or what but he does not answer calls
>>>>> today.
>>>>> So I didn't bother trying to call to see if this stomach stuff
>>>>> could
>>>>> be from the Metformin. But the family practitioner she saw didn't
>>>>> seem to think so. Her pediatrician was booked up so she saw
>>>>> another
>>>>> Dr. She really hasn't been eating much. She had some gluten free
>>>>> fish
>>>>> sticks for breakfast and I made her a small amount of plain white
>>>>> rice for lunch. Neither of these things are low carb, I know. We
>>>>> may have some yogurt. Not sure but if we do it will be the
>>>>> flavored
>>>>> kind. She won't eat plain. I am not sure about giving her toast.
>>>>> She can't eat regular bread. Normally she eats some made of corn
>>>>> flour which would be bad. I just got the new order. There is
>>>>> some
>>>>> made of tapioca. Would that work for her problem? I do have a few
>>>>> slices of some mixed grain, high fiber stuff. I know that would
>>>>> be
>>>>> bad. We do have all kinds of applesauce. No bananas in the
>>>>> house.
>>>>> I do have a couple of chicken breasts I could cook, plenty of
>>>>> canned
>>>>> chicken, chicken broth and also rice pasta.
>>>>>
>>>>> At this point I think I am going to worry less about carbs and
>>>>> just
>>>>> try to get her well. Because of her missing 3 days of school she
>>>>> is
>>>>> now flunking history because she missed a test. They are making
>>>>> it
>>>>> super hard this year for kids who are absent to make up work! Her
>>>>> math teacher was putting their assignments online but then she
>>>>> suddenly stopped. So I don't know if she was sick or what.
>>>>> Angela
>>>>> said tons of kids have been sick.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally
>>>>> eat
>>>>> low carb .
>>>>
>>>> My mother always gave us grated apple. FWIW none of my kids, even
>>>> as
>>>> teenagers have ever thrown off an ear infection by themselves. My
>>>> 16
>>>> year old has had two in the past few months with a heavy cold.
>>>> Every
>>>> cold we seem to get lately comes with upset stomach as well. Avoid
>>>> yoghurt, toast should be ok. Things like milk products and fats
>>>> often
>>>> make stomach upsets worse and more prolonged. I usually stop all
>>>> medications when I have upset stomach as well.
>>>>
>>>> Before antibiotics ear infections often led to mastoiditis. Why
>>>> would
>>>> a doctor think that process has changed?
>>>
>>> I wasn't sure about the yogurt because they usually tell her to eat
>>> it
>>> with the antibiotics.
>>
>> Which is ok usually but with diarrhoea it can exacerbate it. I like
>> probiotic capsules.
>
> Dried blueberries if you can get them. Or thaw out frozen blueberries
> and
> dry them over low heat.
>
> Strangely enough this works against diarrhea, while fresh blueberries
> are a
> remedy for constipation. This is the European Vaccinium myrtillus, I
> don't
> know if it holds for any of the 5 different North American species ...
>
> From the net:
> <quote>
> Reportedly, dried blueberries have a long history of use in Sweden as
> a
> treatment for diarrhea. Dr. Varro Tyler in his book, Herbs of Choice,
> recommends either chewing dried blueberries or making a tea by boiling
> crushed dried blueberries for about 10 minutes.
>
> The helpfulness of blueberries for diarrhea appears to be due to the
> fact
> that they contain tannins, which act as an astringent, contracting
> tissue
> and reducing inflammation and secretion of liquids and mucus.
> Blueberries
> also contain substances called anthocyanosides, which have
> antibacterial
> properties, as well as being a good source of antioxidants. Lastly,
> blueberries are another source of the soluble fiber pectin.
> </quote>
>
> There's a lot more out there, I searched for "dried blueberries
> diarrhea".

I like warmed up frozen blueberries over plain yoghurt as a "dessert"
snack. I don't particularly like fresh blueberries. If its the tannins
that are good then perhaps the green tea that Angela does like might be
good for part of her fluid intake.

On 9/20/2011 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> Angela is sick. I don't know what is going on. She restarted the Metformin
> and is now up to 2 pills per day. Will up it to 3 tomorrow. That will be
> 1,500.
>
> It started with diarrhea but I don't really think this is from the Metformin
> because she took that dose for many days with no problem. She was also very
> tired, cranky and had an ear ache, sore throat and runny nose
>
> She already had a Drs. appointment for the follow-up on her hand/arm twitch
> which had resolved. So we mentioned the other symptoms.
>
> Dr. said she had a slightly red and swollen ear and wasn't going to do
> anything about it. Said that things like this resolve on their own in kids
> her age. I pointed out that the last ear infection did not resolve itself.
> It started in May and kept going until June!
>
> So she prescribed Azytrhromycin but said not to give it to her unless she
> got a fever. I did anyway. But not right away. I waited 2 days until she
> was screaming with ear pain. I didn't actually take her temperature because
> I still do not have an accurate thermometer and refuse to keep buying them.
> I have bought dozens over the years. They will show us with a fever and
> then we will go to the Dr. and be found to have a normal temperature. Or
> they show us with no fever and the Dr. says we have one! Anyway she went
> from feeling chilled (it was a warm day) to sweating (and by then it had
> cooled off). She felt hot to the touch. So that was on Sunday. She was
> also sleeping a lot. I had to wake her. And she was going to bed early.
> Neither thing is like her.
>
> She missed school on Friday. I didn't really believe she was sick at first.
> She said she had diarrhea and complained of the ear, throat and runny nose.
> Got right back in bed and ate nothing that day but a few bites of cereal and
> only because I told her she had to eat something.
>
> Since then she has eaten little. Was having one bout of diarrhea a day.
> Seemed to resolve with a store brand Imodium. But then late last night she
> got up from bed, almost crying from stomach pain. Severe diarrhea! Took
> the maximum dose of the store brand Imodium which is 4 pills. First 2, then
> 1 then another 1. She stayed up, hovering over a bowl not sure which way
> she was going to get sick. I finally gave her a can of diet ginger ale and
> then she felt a bit better.
>
> I debated taking her to the Dr. again today but so far no diarrhea. However
> she says she does feel sick to her stomach.
>
> Her Endo. is not in on Tuesdays. Apparently he is there early in the
> morning for some kind of appointment but then he leaves. I don't know if he
> does surgery or what but he does not answer calls today. So I didn't bother
> trying to call to see if this stomach stuff could be from the Metformin.
> But the family practitioner she saw didn't seem to think so. Her
> pediatrician was booked up so she saw another Dr.
>
> She really hasn't been eating much. She had some gluten free fish sticks
> for breakfast and I made her a small amount of plain white rice for lunch.
> Neither of these things are low carb, I know. We may have some yogurt.
> Not sure but if we do it will be the flavored kind. She won't eat plain. I
> am not sure about giving her toast. She can't eat regular bread. Normally
> she eats some made of corn flour which would be bad. I just got the new
> order. There is some made of tapioca. Would that work for her problem? I
> do have a few slices of some mixed grain, high fiber stuff. I know that
> would be bad. We do have all kinds of applesauce. No bananas in the house.
> I do have a couple of chicken breasts I could cook, plenty of canned
> chicken, chicken broth and also rice pasta.
>
> At this point I think I am going to worry less about carbs and just try to
> get her well. Because of her missing 3 days of school she is now flunking
> history because she missed a test. They are making it super hard this year
> for kids who are absent to make up work! Her math teacher was putting their
> assignments online but then she suddenly stopped. So I don't know if she
> was sick or what. Angela said tons of kids have been sick.
>
> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat low
> carb .
>
> Thanks!
>
>


It is very possible that the diarrhea is from the antibiotics. The
strong ones often kill the good bacteria in the colon. If that is the
case, yogurt is what is recommended. To avoid high carbs, look for one
of the Greek yogurts. Fage brand is fairly low in carbs. They have one
that is 0% fat. If you want to sweeten it, use a tablespoon of jam or
preserves. Don't use sugar-free jam if it contains any sweeteners that
have sugar alcohols as they can make the diarrhea worse.

The most important thing is to keep her hydrated. Lots of clear fluids.
Water, tea (the tannin in strong tea can sooth an upset stomach),
Crystal Light, clear broths, sugar-free jello (watch for sugar
alcohols). If you can find a sugar-free sports drink, like Gatorade,
that will help replace electrolites. I don't know if they make Pedialite
without a lot of sugar.

If she is still running high fevers and can't hold down Tylenol, put her
in the bath tub with warm (cooler than normal bath temp, but not cool)
water and pour it over her body with a bowl or large cup. That will help
cool her down.

And, Julie, I am being kind in giving you some advice. Please do not
come back and tell me why you can't follow it. I'm really more interest
in your child getting well than I am in your excuses. Thanks.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 9/20/2011 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Angela is sick. I don't know what is going on. She restarted the
>> Metformin and is now up to 2 pills per day. Will up it to 3
>> tomorrow. That will be 1,500.
>>
>> It started with diarrhea but I don't really think this is from the
>> Metformin because she took that dose for many days with no problem. She
>> was also very tired, cranky and had an ear ache, sore throat and
>> runny nose She already had a Drs. appointment for the follow-up on her
>> hand/arm
>> twitch which had resolved. So we mentioned the other symptoms.
>>
>> Dr. said she had a slightly red and swollen ear and wasn't going to
>> do anything about it. Said that things like this resolve on their
>> own in kids her age. I pointed out that the last ear infection did
>> not resolve itself. It started in May and kept going until June!
>>
>> So she prescribed Azytrhromycin but said not to give it to her
>> unless she got a fever. I did anyway. But not right away. I
>> waited 2 days until she was screaming with ear pain. I didn't
>> actually take her temperature because I still do not have an
>> accurate thermometer and refuse to keep buying them. I have bought
>> dozens over the years. They will show us with a fever and then we
>> will go to the Dr. and be found to have a normal temperature. Or
>> they show us with no fever and the Dr. says we have one! Anyway she
>> went from feeling chilled (it was a warm day) to sweating (and by
>> then it had cooled off). She felt hot to the touch. So that was on
>> Sunday. She was also sleeping a lot. I had to wake her. And she
>> was going to bed early. Neither thing is like her. She missed school on
>> Friday. I didn't really believe she was sick
>> at first. She said she had diarrhea and complained of the ear,
>> throat and runny nose. Got right back in bed and ate nothing that
>> day but a few bites of cereal and only because I told her she had to
>> eat something. Since then she has eaten little. Was having one bout of
>> diarrhea a
>> day. Seemed to resolve with a store brand Imodium. But then late
>> last night she got up from bed, almost crying from stomach pain. Severe
>> diarrhea! Took the maximum dose of the store brand Imodium
>> which is 4 pills. First 2, then 1 then another 1. She stayed up,
>> hovering over a bowl not sure which way she was going to get sick. I
>> finally gave her a can of diet ginger ale and then she felt a bit
>> better. I debated taking her to the Dr. again today but so far no
>> diarrhea. However she says she does feel sick to her stomach.
>>
>> Her Endo. is not in on Tuesdays. Apparently he is there early in the
>> morning for some kind of appointment but then he leaves. I don't
>> know if he does surgery or what but he does not answer calls today. So I
>> didn't bother trying to call to see if this stomach stuff could
>> be from the Metformin. But the family practitioner she saw didn't
>> seem to think so. Her pediatrician was booked up so she saw another
>> Dr. She really hasn't been eating much. She had some gluten free fish
>> sticks for breakfast and I made her a small amount of plain white
>> rice for lunch. Neither of these things are low carb, I know. We
>> may have some yogurt. Not sure but if we do it will be the flavored kind.
>> She won't eat
>> plain. I am not sure about giving her toast. She can't eat regular
>> bread. Normally she eats some made of corn flour which would be
>> bad. I just got the new order. There is some made of tapioca. Would
>> that work for her problem? I do have a few slices of some
>> mixed grain, high fiber stuff. I know that would be bad. We do
>> have all kinds of applesauce. No bananas in the house. I do have a
>> couple of chicken breasts I could cook, plenty of canned chicken,
>> chicken broth and also rice pasta. At this point I think I am going to
>> worry less about carbs and just
>> try to get her well. Because of her missing 3 days of school she
>> is now flunking history because she missed a test. They are making
>> it super hard this year for kids who are absent to make up work! Her math
>> teacher was putting their assignments online but then she
>> suddenly stopped. So I don't know if she was sick or what. Angela
>> said tons of kids have been sick. So what do you eat when you have
>> diarrhea? Assuming you normally
>> eat low carb .
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>
>
> It is very possible that the diarrhea is from the antibiotics. The
> strong ones often kill the good bacteria in the colon. If that is the
> case, yogurt is what is recommended. To avoid high carbs, look for one
> of the Greek yogurts. Fage brand is fairly low in carbs. They have
> one that is 0% fat. If you want to sweeten it, use a tablespoon of
> jam or preserves. Don't use sugar-free jam if it contains any
> sweeteners that have sugar alcohols as they can make the diarrhea
> worse.

She will not eat Greek. I bought some once. It almost made her vomit. She
couldn't bring herself to swallow it. She also won't eat jam or preserves.
The only thing like that I ever keep in the house is some sugar free
strawberry and since I eat it on peanut butter sandwiches it wouldn't be
safe for her to eat. I don't worry about cross contamination with it
because she has never shown an interest in eating it. She won't eat
anything with pieces of fruit in it. There are no sugar alcohols in this
stuff. But I also can't get any more because the health food store closed
about an hour ago.
>
> The most important thing is to keep her hydrated. Lots of clear
> fluids. Water, tea (the tannin in strong tea can sooth an upset
> stomach), Crystal Light, clear broths, sugar-free jello (watch for
> sugar alcohols). If you can find a sugar-free sports drink, like
> Gatorade, that will help replace electrolites. I don't know if they
> make Pedialite without a lot of sugar.

She does have sugar free sports drinks. Won't eat Jell-O and the only tea
she will drink is green. I do have broth though.
>
> If she is still running high fevers and can't hold down Tylenol, put
> her in the bath tub with warm (cooler than normal bath temp, but not
> cool) water and pour it over her body with a bowl or large cup. That
> will help cool her down.

She doesn't have a high fever. At least I don't think so.
>
> And, Julie, I am being kind in giving you some advice. Please do not
> come back and tell me why you can't follow it. I'm really more
> interest in your child getting well than I am in your excuses. Thanks.

Sorry, I already did. That's just how I am.

Janet Wilder wrote:


>
> And, Julie, I am being kind in giving you some advice. Please do not
> come back and tell me why you can't follow it. I'm really more interest
> in your child getting well than I am in your excuses. Thanks.

Yup.

Julie Bove wrote:

<snip>

> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat
> low carb .
>
> Thanks!

I just take OTC Immodium.

For dogs, the usual recommendation is white rice mixed with a bit of some
kind of plain, comparatively low fat meat, such as cooked and drained ground
beef or chicken.

"Janet" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat
>> low carb .
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> I just take OTC Immodium.

She has been taking that but as of yesterday it was severe. So far so good
on that front today but she has terrible stomach pains. At least we know it
isn't her appendix because that has been removed.
>
> For dogs, the usual recommendation is white rice mixed with a bit of some
> kind of plain, comparatively low fat meat, such as cooked and drained
> ground beef or chicken.
>

I can't remember for sure julie, if she will eat brown rice, get some of
that cooked in chicken broth, then put in some of that shredded chicken she
lkes and if she likes gravy sauces one of those gluton free jobs stir it up
and give her to eat in small amounts... and just warm not hot or too cool,
Lee
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Janet" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat
>>> low carb .
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>> I just take OTC Immodium.
>
> She has been taking that but as of yesterday it was severe. So far so
> good on that front today but she has terrible stomach pains. At least we
> know it isn't her appendix because that has been removed.
>>
>> For dogs, the usual recommendation is white rice mixed with a bit of some
>> kind of plain, comparatively low fat meat, such as cooked and drained
>> ground beef or chicken.
>>
>
>

"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
...
>I can't remember for sure julie, if she will eat brown rice, get some of
>that cooked in chicken broth, then put in some of that shredded chicken she
>lkes and if she likes gravy sauces one of those gluton free jobs stir it up
>and give her to eat in small amounts... and just warm not hot or too cool,
>Lee

She usually won't eat brown rice but we have tried a mix recently that is
white, brown and vegetables. Not good for now I know.

We were just in the ER. The Dr. thinks it is gastritis. I will have to
look up the term. She was given some Maalox with Lidocaine in it and it
took her pain level (on a scale of 1 to 10) from a 9 to a 1. Her labs all
came back normal. BG was 75.

He told me to stop the antibiotic because her ears look clear now. And to
back the Metformin off to 500 mg for a few days then increase it. If the D
comes back I need to call the Endo.

He prescribed Protonix for 2 weeks. I hope she doesn't need to go on that
all the time because all of those types of meds made me very sick.
Increased my GERD something fierce and caused migraines and bizarre dreams.
But perhaps she will need the med only for 2 weeks.

He said for her not to eat spicy foods and no caffeine. She said that she
doesn't eat spicy foods but I'm not so sure about that. Yesterday she
wanted some steak for dinner. It is a Sukiyaki cut so it cooks in just a
minute or three. Then I put a little drizzle of Heinz 57 on it, mixed it
through and served it. She had it with the rice and veggies. I don't think
I've ever eaten Heinz 57 but I think it is spicy. I could be wrong though.

not to me on the spicey scale for the 57 its sorta like a 1 or
worchestersher, sp, salty but not really spicey, Lee
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I can't remember for sure julie, if she will eat brown rice, get some of
>>that cooked in chicken broth, then put in some of that shredded chicken
>>she lkes and if she likes gravy sauces one of those gluton free jobs stir
>>it up and give her to eat in small amounts... and just warm not hot or too
>>cool, Lee
>
> She usually won't eat brown rice but we have tried a mix recently that is
> white, brown and vegetables. Not good for now I know.
>
> We were just in the ER. The Dr. thinks it is gastritis. I will have to
> look up the term. She was given some Maalox with Lidocaine in it and it
> took her pain level (on a scale of 1 to 10) from a 9 to a 1. Her labs all
> came back normal. BG was 75.
>
> He told me to stop the antibiotic because her ears look clear now. And to
> back the Metformin off to 500 mg for a few days then increase it. If the
> D comes back I need to call the Endo.
>
> He prescribed Protonix for 2 weeks. I hope she doesn't need to go on that
> all the time because all of those types of meds made me very sick.
> Increased my GERD something fierce and caused migraines and bizarre
> dreams. But perhaps she will need the med only for 2 weeks.
>
> He said for her not to eat spicy foods and no caffeine. She said that she
> doesn't eat spicy foods but I'm not so sure about that. Yesterday she
> wanted some steak for dinner. It is a Sukiyaki cut so it cooks in just a
> minute or three. Then I put a little drizzle of Heinz 57 on it, mixed it
> through and served it. She had it with the rice and veggies. I don't
> think I've ever eaten Heinz 57 but I think it is spicy. I could be wrong
> though.
>

"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
...
> I can't remember for sure julie, if she will eat brown rice, get some
> of that cooked in chicken broth, then put in some of that shredded
> chicken she lkes and if she likes gravy sauces one of those gluton
> free jobs stir it up and give her to eat in small amounts... and just
> warm not hot or too cool, Lee

I read that brown rice has the same glycemic load as white. May as well
go for the white if using rice at all - in my experience most kids
prefer white rice. I was told years ago that there are (amongst other
things) 3 food items that pretty much most people can tolerate when
allergic and they are rice, pears and lamb. I think more liquid intake
is needed if you are running to the toilet frequently. If it has settled
down to only needing to go after eating then in my opinion liquids can
be lessened a bit. My 20 year old had the trots recently and I urged him
to keep drinking and he said nah, liquid makes liquid


> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally
>>>> eat
>>>> low carb .
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> I just take OTC Immodium.
>>
>> She has been taking that but as of yesterday it was severe. So far
>> so good on that front today but she has terrible stomach pains. At
>> least we know it isn't her appendix because that has been removed.
>>>
>>> For dogs, the usual recommendation is white rice mixed with a bit of
>>> some kind of plain, comparatively low fat meat, such as cooked and
>>> drained ground beef or chicken.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

i wanted her to eat the brown because of the nutritional value and the fact
that iirc it absorbs more liquid as it goes through so the stools won't be
so runny, at this point as you say its the liquids and electrolites that are
most important, Lee
"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I can't remember for sure julie, if she will eat brown rice, get some of
>> that cooked in chicken broth, then put in some of that shredded chicken
>> she lkes and if she likes gravy sauces one of those gluton free jobs stir
>> it up and give her to eat in small amounts... and just warm not hot or
>> too cool, Lee
>
> I read that brown rice has the same glycemic load as white. May as well
> go for the white if using rice at all - in my experience most kids prefer
> white rice. I was told years ago that there are (amongst other things) 3
> food items that pretty much most people can tolerate when allergic and
> they are rice, pears and lamb. I think more liquid intake is needed if you
> are running to the toilet frequently. If it has settled down to only
> needing to go after eating then in my opinion liquids can be lessened a
> bit. My 20 year old had the trots recently and I urged him to keep
> drinking and he said nah, liquid makes liquid
>
>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat
>>>>> low carb .
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> I just take OTC Immodium.
>>>
>>> She has been taking that but as of yesterday it was severe. So far so
>>> good on that front today but she has terrible stomach pains. At least
>>> we know it isn't her appendix because that has been removed.
>>>>
>>>> For dogs, the usual recommendation is white rice mixed with a bit of
>>>> some kind of plain, comparatively low fat meat, such as cooked and
>>>> drained ground beef or chicken.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

I suggest to get a second opinion in another doctor. Maybe a specialist like EENT where he/she can better explain what's happening to Angela.

In article >, "Julie Bove" >
wrote:

> Metformin

Metformin may cause side effects. Tell your doctor if any of these symptoms are
severe, do not go away, go away and come back, or do not begin for some time
after you begin taking metformin:

€ diarrhea





€ bloating
€ stomach pain
€ gas
€ constipation
€ unpleasant metallic taste in mouth
€ heartburn
€ headache
€ sneezing
€ cough
€ runny nose
€ flushing of the skin
€ nail changes
€ muscle pain

as you know i try to eat moderate carb, to the healthy and more complex...
but when i am in this situation often its something to go down there and
collect the ick... rice, which for me would be brown, warm tapioca pudding,
and warm jello... also remember to keep her hydrated, truth is its almost
more important to get the liquids in than make the stool... also watch her
electrolights, but if she is carb sensitive she won't probably do well with
a banana, Lee
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
> Angela is sick. I don't know what is going on. She restarted the
> Metformin and is now up to 2 pills per day. Will up it to 3 tomorrow.
> That will be 1,500.
>
> It started with diarrhea but I don't really think this is from the
> Metformin because she took that dose for many days with no problem. She
> was also very tired, cranky and had an ear ache, sore throat and runny
> nose
>
> She already had a Drs. appointment for the follow-up on her hand/arm
> twitch which had resolved. So we mentioned the other symptoms.
>
> Dr. said she had a slightly red and swollen ear and wasn't going to do
> anything about it. Said that things like this resolve on their own in
> kids her age. I pointed out that the last ear infection did not resolve
> itself. It started in May and kept going until June!
>
> So she prescribed Azytrhromycin but said not to give it to her unless she
> got a fever. I did anyway. But not right away. I waited 2 days until
> she was screaming with ear pain. I didn't actually take her temperature
> because I still do not have an accurate thermometer and refuse to keep
> buying them. I have bought dozens over the years. They will show us with
> a fever and then we will go to the Dr. and be found to have a normal
> temperature. Or they show us with no fever and the Dr. says we have one!
> Anyway she went from feeling chilled (it was a warm day) to sweating (and
> by then it had cooled off). She felt hot to the touch. So that was on
> Sunday. She was also sleeping a lot. I had to wake her. And she was
> going to bed early. Neither thing is like her.
>
> She missed school on Friday. I didn't really believe she was sick at
> first. She said she had diarrhea and complained of the ear, throat and
> runny nose. Got right back in bed and ate nothing that day but a few bites
> of cereal and only because I told her she had to eat something.
>
> Since then she has eaten little. Was having one bout of diarrhea a day.
> Seemed to resolve with a store brand Imodium. But then late last night
> she got up from bed, almost crying from stomach pain. Severe diarrhea!
> Took the maximum dose of the store brand Imodium which is 4 pills. First
> 2, then 1 then another 1. She stayed up, hovering over a bowl not sure
> which way she was going to get sick. I finally gave her a can of diet
> ginger ale and then she felt a bit better.
>
> I debated taking her to the Dr. again today but so far no diarrhea.
> However she says she does feel sick to her stomach.
>
> Her Endo. is not in on Tuesdays. Apparently he is there early in the
> morning for some kind of appointment but then he leaves. I don't know if
> he does surgery or what but he does not answer calls today. So I didn't
> bother trying to call to see if this stomach stuff could be from the
> Metformin. But the family practitioner she saw didn't seem to think so.
> Her pediatrician was booked up so she saw another Dr.
>
> She really hasn't been eating much. She had some gluten free fish sticks
> for breakfast and I made her a small amount of plain white rice for lunch.
> Neither of these things are low carb, I know. We may have some yogurt.
> Not sure but if we do it will be the flavored kind. She won't eat plain.
> I am not sure about giving her toast. She can't eat regular bread.
> Normally she eats some made of corn flour which would be bad. I just got
> the new order. There is some made of tapioca. Would that work for her
> problem? I do have a few slices of some mixed grain, high fiber stuff. I
> know that would be bad. We do have all kinds of applesauce. No bananas
> in the house. I do have a couple of chicken breasts I could cook, plenty
> of canned chicken, chicken broth and also rice pasta.
>
> At this point I think I am going to worry less about carbs and just try to
> get her well. Because of her missing 3 days of school she is now
> flunking history because she missed a test. They are making it super hard
> this year for kids who are absent to make up work! Her math teacher was
> putting their assignments online but then she suddenly stopped. So I
> don't know if she was sick or what. Angela said tons of kids have been
> sick.
>
> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat low
> carb .
>
> Thanks!
>

"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
...
> as you know i try to eat moderate carb, to the healthy and more complex...
> but when i am in this situation often its something to go down there and
> collect the ick... rice, which for me would be brown, warm tapioca
> pudding, and warm jello... also remember to keep her hydrated, truth is
> its almost more important to get the liquids in than make the stool...
> also watch her electrolights, but if she is carb sensitive she won't
> probably do well with a banana, Lee

I was in such a hurry to leave and get to the store that I totally forgot to
give her the meds. All I gave her for dinner was a small bowl of rice
pasta. I didn't have any white rice in the house. This was imported from
Italy so I couldn't read all of it. But it said something about adding the
germ back in. And it was 2g of fiber per serving which seemed to be less
than the brown rice pasta we had.

At the store I bought her rice cakes, rice crackers, rice chips and some
white rice bread. Because she needed to eat with the meds I gave her a
sandwich of thinly sliced chicken breast on the plain white rice bread,
toasted. She loved it! But I told her she could not be eating that sort of
bread all the time because it has the same amount of carbs as regular wheat
bread. It didn't seem to raise her BG though because she tested at 75 at
the ER.

Now I am cranky because I didn't think to bring any food or my meds to the
ER. I should have had my bedtime snack 38 minutes ago but I didn't. And I
won't get the food for a while because I took my Carafate when I first came
in and it takes an hour before I can eat. I just hope I don't go hypo
before then. My numbers were down prior to and after dinner. Not too low
but much down from what they had been running.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
> ...
>> as you know i try to eat moderate carb, to the healthy and more
>> complex... but when i am in this situation often its something to go
>> down there and collect the ick... rice, which for me would be brown,
>> warm tapioca pudding, and warm jello... also remember to keep her
>> hydrated, truth is its almost more important to get the liquids in
>> than make the stool... also watch her electrolights, but if she is
>> carb sensitive she won't probably do well with a banana, Lee
>
> I was in such a hurry to leave and get to the store that I totally
> forgot to give her the meds. All I gave her for dinner was a small
> bowl of rice pasta. I didn't have any white rice in the house. This
> was imported from Italy so I couldn't read all of it. But it said
> something about adding the germ back in. And it was 2g of fiber per
> serving which seemed to be less than the brown rice pasta we had.
>
> At the store I bought her rice cakes, rice crackers, rice chips and
> some white rice bread. Because she needed to eat with the meds I gave
> her a sandwich of thinly sliced chicken breast on the plain white rice
> bread, toasted. She loved it! But I told her she could not be eating
> that sort of bread all the time because it has the same amount of
> carbs as regular wheat bread. It didn't seem to raise her BG though
> because she tested at 75 at the ER.
>
> Now I am cranky because I didn't think to bring any food or my meds to
> the ER. I should have had my bedtime snack 38 minutes ago but I
> didn't. And I won't get the food for a while because I took my
> Carafate when I first came in and it takes an hour before I can eat.
> I just hope I don't go hypo before then. My numbers were down prior
> to and after dinner. Not too low but much down from what they had
> been running.

As long as the carbs are spaced out I can't see that having a bit extra
bread will do much harm. If she tests well afterwards... Its not like
she is having the sandwiches one after another. Got to eat something.
>
>

"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> as you know i try to eat moderate carb, to the healthy and more
>>> complex... but when i am in this situation often its something to go
>>> down there and collect the ick... rice, which for me would be brown,
>>> warm tapioca pudding, and warm jello... also remember to keep her
>>> hydrated, truth is its almost more important to get the liquids in than
>>> make the stool... also watch her electrolights, but if she is carb
>>> sensitive she won't probably do well with a banana, Lee
>>
>> I was in such a hurry to leave and get to the store that I totally forgot
>> to give her the meds. All I gave her for dinner was a small bowl of rice
>> pasta. I didn't have any white rice in the house. This was imported
>> from Italy so I couldn't read all of it. But it said something about
>> adding the germ back in. And it was 2g of fiber per serving which seemed
>> to be less than the brown rice pasta we had.
>>
>> At the store I bought her rice cakes, rice crackers, rice chips and some
>> white rice bread. Because she needed to eat with the meds I gave her a
>> sandwich of thinly sliced chicken breast on the plain white rice bread,
>> toasted. She loved it! But I told her she could not be eating that sort
>> of bread all the time because it has the same amount of carbs as regular
>> wheat bread. It didn't seem to raise her BG though because she tested at
>> 75 at the ER.
>>
>> Now I am cranky because I didn't think to bring any food or my meds to
>> the ER. I should have had my bedtime snack 38 minutes ago but I didn't.
>> And I won't get the food for a while because I took my Carafate when I
>> first came in and it takes an hour before I can eat. I just hope I don't
>> go hypo before then. My numbers were down prior to and after dinner.
>> Not too low but much down from what they had been running.
>
> As long as the carbs are spaced out I can't see that having a bit extra
> bread will do much harm. If she tests well afterwards... Its not like she
> is having the sandwiches one after another. Got to eat something.

True.

and remember as we discuss here often she may not be sensitive to rice as
she is other things,... one of the things that was hardest for me to learn
was what did and didn't bother me, i can eat one whole banana with no
problem... but not two... my brother can't eat more than a couple of bites
or he is done in, He can eat a full serving of white potato no problem but
barely half a serving of any kind of rice, Lee
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
> ...
>> as you know i try to eat moderate carb, to the healthy and more
>> complex... but when i am in this situation often its something to go down
>> there and collect the ick... rice, which for me would be brown, warm
>> tapioca pudding, and warm jello... also remember to keep her hydrated,
>> truth is its almost more important to get the liquids in than make the
>> stool... also watch her electrolights, but if she is carb sensitive she
>> won't probably do well with a banana, Lee
>
> I was in such a hurry to leave and get to the store that I totally forgot
> to give her the meds. All I gave her for dinner was a small bowl of rice
> pasta. I didn't have any white rice in the house. This was imported from
> Italy so I couldn't read all of it. But it said something about adding
> the germ back in. And it was 2g of fiber per serving which seemed to be
> less than the brown rice pasta we had.
>
> At the store I bought her rice cakes, rice crackers, rice chips and some
> white rice bread. Because she needed to eat with the meds I gave her a
> sandwich of thinly sliced chicken breast on the plain white rice bread,
> toasted. She loved it! But I told her she could not be eating that sort
> of bread all the time because it has the same amount of carbs as regular
> wheat bread. It didn't seem to raise her BG though because she tested at
> 75 at the ER.
>
> Now I am cranky because I didn't think to bring any food or my meds to the
> ER. I should have had my bedtime snack 38 minutes ago but I didn't. And
> I won't get the food for a while because I took my Carafate when I first
> came in and it takes an hour before I can eat. I just hope I don't go
> hypo before then. My numbers were down prior to and after dinner. Not
> too low but much down from what they had been running.
>

On 9/21/2011 7:20 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
> and remember as we discuss here often she may not be sensitive to rice as
> she is other things,... one of the things that was hardest for me to learn
> was what did and didn't bother me, i can eat one whole banana with no
> problem... but not two... my brother can't eat more than a couple of bites
> or he is done in, He can eat a full serving of white potato no problem but
> barely half a serving of any kind of rice, Lee

My DH can eat a moderate serving of potato but does not deal well with
rice, either. We have been doing very small portions of brown rice as
suggested by his endo. 1/4 cup of cooked brown rice with an adequate
bolus seems to be working. I usually mix it with other veggies.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

it is just so fascinating to me that something that should be a
chenical/scientific thing varies so much by the person, like when you can
eat the carbs, i didn't test for that, but my brother says he simply can't
eat carbs in the morning, mid day to lat evening, but not when he gets up...
and really not at bedtime, Lee
"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 9/21/2011 7:20 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> and remember as we discuss here often she may not be sensitive to rice as
>> she is other things,... one of the things that was hardest for me to
>> learn
>> was what did and didn't bother me, i can eat one whole banana with no
>> problem... but not two... my brother can't eat more than a couple of
>> bites
>> or he is done in, He can eat a full serving of white potato no problem
>> but
>> barely half a serving of any kind of rice, Lee
>
> My DH can eat a moderate serving of potato but does not deal well with
> rice, either. We have been doing very small portions of brown rice as
> suggested by his endo. 1/4 cup of cooked brown rice with an adequate bolus
> seems to be working. I usually mix it with other veggies.
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat low
> carb .
>
> Thanks!

When I'm gut sick like that I throw low-carb out the window because I
can't tolerate most of the low-carb foods. I go for plain boiled white
rice until I feel like something more. Last digestive virus I had I
think I ate plain white rice and drank ginger ale for three days. Of
course it was tiny bits at a time to start, and by the time I could eat
more I was cooking the rice in chicken stock, then adding bits of cooked
chicken.

I hope she feels betters soon!

Priscilla
--
"What you fail to understand is that criticising established authority by means
of argument and evidence is a crucial aspect of how science works."
- Chris Malcolm

"Peppermint Patootie" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat low
>> carb .
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> When I'm gut sick like that I throw low-carb out the window because I
> can't tolerate most of the low-carb foods. I go for plain boiled white
> rice until I feel like something more. Last digestive virus I had I
> think I ate plain white rice and drank ginger ale for three days. Of
> course it was tiny bits at a time to start, and by the time I could eat
> more I was cooking the rice in chicken stock, then adding bits of cooked
> chicken.
>
> I hope she feels betters soon!

Thanks! She was diagnosed with gastritis and is on treatment for that now.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Peppermint Patootie" > wrote in message
> news
>> In article >,
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally
>>> eat low
>>> carb .
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>> When I'm gut sick like that I throw low-carb out the window because I
>> can't tolerate most of the low-carb foods. I go for plain boiled
>> white
>> rice until I feel like something more. Last digestive virus I had I
>> think I ate plain white rice and drank ginger ale for three days. Of
>> course it was tiny bits at a time to start, and by the time I could
>> eat
>> more I was cooking the rice in chicken stock, then adding bits of
>> cooked
>> chicken.
>>
>> I hope she feels betters soon!
>
> Thanks! She was diagnosed with gastritis and is on treatment for that
> now.

Has she stopped the Met while she is sick? Metformin can prolong
diarhoea, even if the cause of the illness is not the drug. When my ex
was on an ACE for bp he had a bit of the ACE cough at night but every
time he got a cold the dry cough would go on for weeks. Not so with the
ARB.

"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Peppermint Patootie" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> In article >,
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat
>>>> low
>>>> carb .
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> When I'm gut sick like that I throw low-carb out the window because I
>>> can't tolerate most of the low-carb foods. I go for plain boiled white
>>> rice until I feel like something more. Last digestive virus I had I
>>> think I ate plain white rice and drank ginger ale for three days. Of
>>> course it was tiny bits at a time to start, and by the time I could eat
>>> more I was cooking the rice in chicken stock, then adding bits of cooked
>>> chicken.
>>>
>>> I hope she feels betters soon!
>>
>> Thanks! She was diagnosed with gastritis and is on treatment for that
>> now.
>
> Has she stopped the Met while she is sick? Metformin can prolong diarhoea,
> even if the cause of the illness is not the drug. When my ex was on an ACE
> for bp he had a bit of the ACE cough at night but every time he got a cold
> the dry cough would go on for weeks. Not so with the ARB.

No. The family practitioner said she didn't think it was the cause so not
to stop it. The ER Dr. said to cut back to 500 for a few days and then
restart it again at 1,000. If it starts again to call the Endo. I am
thinking perhaps she can still get benefits even if she is not on the
maximum dose. But I could be wrong.

"Peppermint Patootie" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat
>> low
>> carb .
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> When I'm gut sick like that I throw low-carb out the window because I
> can't tolerate most of the low-carb foods. I go for plain boiled
> white
> rice until I feel like something more. Last digestive virus I had I
> think I ate plain white rice and drank ginger ale for three days. Of
> course it was tiny bits at a time to start, and by the time I could
> eat
> more I was cooking the rice in chicken stock, then adding bits of
> cooked
> chicken.
>
> I hope she feels betters soon!

Whenever I had stomach bugs in the past my bg would soar just like it
did with sinus infection. So it didn't really matter whether my first
foods were carb or not. I go for toast and vegemite (white bread as
fibre can be very irritating to an inflamed gut) as a first food
generally. Those small containers of KFC potato and gravy have always
stayed down well too. Or should I say gravy and potato, little potato in
them.

On 9/20/2011 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
[snip]
> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat low
> carb .
>
> Thanks!

I've had alternating diarrhea and constipation, and found that for
that combination, increasing the fiber in the diet is best.

I've used Metamucil powder (made from psyllium) and also Citrucel
powder (made from oranges). Found in pharmacies, over the counter.

I usually keep some high-fiber rye crackers handy for times when
I run short of those. I prefer Ry Krisp brand, but Wasa brand
also works.

With Angela's allergies, she probably won't be able to use all
of these.

"Robert Miles" > wrote in message
.com...
> On 9/20/2011 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> [snip]
>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat low
>> carb .
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> I've had alternating diarrhea and constipation, and found that for
> that combination, increasing the fiber in the diet is best.
>
> I've used Metamucil powder (made from psyllium) and also Citrucel
> powder (made from oranges). Found in pharmacies, over the counter.
>
> I usually keep some high-fiber rye crackers handy for times when
> I run short of those. I prefer Ry Krisp brand, but Wasa brand
> also works.
>
> With Angela's allergies, she probably won't be able to use all
> of these.

I don't think Metamucil is recommended for anyone.

Julie Bove > wrote:

: "Robert Miles" > wrote in message
: .com...
: > On 9/20/2011 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
: > [snip]
: >> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat low
: >> carb .
: >>
: >> Thanks!
: >
: > I've had alternating diarrhea and constipation, and found that for
: > that combination, increasing the fiber in the diet is best.
: >
: > I've used Metamucil powder (made from psyllium) and also Citrucel
: > powder (made from oranges). Found in pharmacies, over the counter.
: >
: > I usually keep some high-fiber rye crackers handy for times when
: > I run short of those. I prefer Ry Krisp brand, but Wasa brand
: > also works.
: >
: > With Angela's allergies, she probably won't be able to use all
: > of these.

: I don't think Metamucil is recommended for anyone.
I discussed this with my endo once, as someone has mentined that taking
metamucil or similar fiber stuff actually heped people with both
constipation and the "dire rear." He said he couldn't explain why, but
that it worked. I don't know if someone should start it in the midst of a
bout, but that might be OK. I would ask her doc.

Wendy

On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:17:21 +0000 (UTC), "W. Baker"
> wrote:

>Julie Bove > wrote:
>
>: "Robert Miles" > wrote in message
>: .com...
>: > On 9/20/2011 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>: > [snip]
>: >> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat low
>: >> carb .
>: >>
>: >> Thanks!
>: >
>: > I've had alternating diarrhea and constipation, and found that for
>: > that combination, increasing the fiber in the diet is best.
>: >
>: > I've used Metamucil powder (made from psyllium) and also Citrucel
>: > powder (made from oranges). Found in pharmacies, over the counter.
>: >
>: > I usually keep some high-fiber rye crackers handy for times when
>: > I run short of those. I prefer Ry Krisp brand, but Wasa brand
>: > also works.
>: >
>: > With Angela's allergies, she probably won't be able to use all
>: > of these.
>
>: I don't think Metamucil is recommended for anyone.
>I discussed this with my endo once, as someone has mentined that taking
>metamucil or similar fiber stuff actually heped people with both
>constipation and the "dire rear." He said he couldn't explain why, but
>that it worked. I don't know if someone should start it in the midst of a
>bout, but that might be OK. I would ask her doc.
>
>Wendy


I have had good luck with citrucel for alternating problems, but
cooked peeled and sliced apple, which I microwave till it is tender
works wonders too.

Evelyn

Wendy, when I worked in nursing home, residents with impacted faeces
actually had some diarhoea as well. They had to be manually helped with
the impact problem but Metamucil was used as well to normalise.

"W. Baker" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove > wrote:
>
> : "Robert Miles" > wrote in message
> : .com...
> : > On 9/20/2011 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> : > [snip]
> : >> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally
> eat low
> : >> carb .
> : >>
> : >> Thanks!
> : >
> : > I've had alternating diarrhea and constipation, and found that for
> : > that combination, increasing the fiber in the diet is best.
> : >
> : > I've used Metamucil powder (made from psyllium) and also Citrucel
> : > powder (made from oranges). Found in pharmacies, over the
> counter.
> : >
> : > I usually keep some high-fiber rye crackers handy for times when
> : > I run short of those. I prefer Ry Krisp brand, but Wasa brand
> : > also works.
> : >
> : > With Angela's allergies, she probably won't be able to use all
> : > of these.
>
> : I don't think Metamucil is recommended for anyone.
> I discussed this with my endo once, as someone has mentined that
> taking
> metamucil or similar fiber stuff actually heped people with both
> constipation and the "dire rear." He said he couldn't explain why,
> but
> that it worked. I don't know if someone should start it in the midst
> of a
> bout, but that might be OK. I would ask her doc.
>
> Wendy
>
>
>

it just occurred to me that the home remedy for cats with either affliction
is pumpkin, Lee
"Robert Miles" > wrote in message
.com...
> On 9/20/2011 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> [snip]
>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you normally eat low
>> carb .
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> I've had alternating diarrhea and constipation, and found that for
> that combination, increasing the fiber in the diet is best.
>
> I've used Metamucil powder (made from psyllium) and also Citrucel
> powder (made from oranges). Found in pharmacies, over the counter.
>
> I usually keep some high-fiber rye crackers handy for times when
> I run short of those. I prefer Ry Krisp brand, but Wasa brand
> also works.
>
> With Angela's allergies, she probably won't be able to use all
> of these.
>

On 9/20/2011 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
[snip]
> Her Endo. is not in on Tuesdays. Apparently he is there early in the
> morning for some kind of appointment but then he leaves. I don't know if he
> does surgery or what but he does not answer calls today. So I didn't bother
> trying to call to see if this stomach stuff could be from the Metformin.
> But the family practitioner she saw didn't seem to think so. Her

Sounds much like the stomach problems that, combined with frequent
coughing, led to me not using metformin any more.

"Robert Miles" > wrote in message
.com...
> On 9/20/2011 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> [snip]
>> Her Endo. is not in on Tuesdays. Apparently he is there early in the
>> morning for some kind of appointment but then he leaves. I don't know if
>> he
>> does surgery or what but he does not answer calls today. So I didn't
>> bother
>> trying to call to see if this stomach stuff could be from the Metformin.
>> But the family practitioner she saw didn't seem to think so. Her
>
> Sounds much like the stomach problems that, combined with frequent
> coughing, led to me not using metformin any more.

Coughing from Metformin?