I bought a bag of these for Angela to try. Jenni-O brand. Frozen. They
come 2 patties back to back with paper in between.

I could *not* get the paper out. Was I supposed to have defrosted them
first? This is why I hate the frozen hamburger patties. Luckily I can buy
really good pre-cooked hamburger patties at Costco. But not turkey ones.

Eventually I got the paper out as they cooked but they didn't cook well at
all. As soon as a thin layer had cooked it just peeled off of the frozen
part. It was like cooking a pound of frozen ground beef where you scrape
the cooked part and a layer of cooked stuff comes off. Only I wasn't
scraping. It just came off.

I am not sure I will buy these again. She said they were okay. Just okay.
Said she thought they might need ketchup. I have never liked ketchup with
my meat unless it is meatloaf and then I like it mixed in and baked over the
top. But I really prefer chili sauce. But I digress.

So anyway... What did I do wrong? I have 10 more patties left and I'd like
them to come out as patties and not assorted sized chunks and pieces.

Thanks.

In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> I bought a bag of these for Angela to try. Jenni-O brand. Frozen. They
> come 2 patties back to back with paper in between.
>
> I could *not* get the paper out. Was I supposed to have defrosted them
> first? This is why I hate the frozen hamburger patties. Luckily I can buy
> really good pre-cooked hamburger patties at Costco. But not turkey ones.
>
> Eventually I got the paper out as they cooked but they didn't cook well at
> all. As soon as a thin layer had cooked it just peeled off of the frozen
> part. It was like cooking a pound of frozen ground beef where you scrape
> the cooked part and a layer of cooked stuff comes off. Only I wasn't
> scraping. It just came off.
>
> I am not sure I will buy these again. She said they were okay. Just okay.
> Said she thought they might need ketchup. I have never liked ketchup with
> my meat unless it is meatloaf and then I like it mixed in and baked over the
> top. But I really prefer chili sauce. But I digress.
>
> So anyway... What did I do wrong? I have 10 more patties left and I'd like
> them to come out as patties and not assorted sized chunks and pieces.
>

You bought pre-formed patties. If you must buy pre-formed patties rather
than a package of ground meat, you really do have to defrost them
completely before cooking.

--
"Isn't embarrassing to quote something you didn't read and then attack
what it didn't say?"--WG, where else but Usenet

"Alice Faber" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> I bought a bag of these for Angela to try. Jenni-O brand. Frozen. They
>> come 2 patties back to back with paper in between.
>>
>> I could *not* get the paper out. Was I supposed to have defrosted them
>> first? This is why I hate the frozen hamburger patties. Luckily I can
>> buy
>> really good pre-cooked hamburger patties at Costco. But not turkey ones.
>>
>> Eventually I got the paper out as they cooked but they didn't cook well
>> at
>> all. As soon as a thin layer had cooked it just peeled off of the frozen
>> part. It was like cooking a pound of frozen ground beef where you scrape
>> the cooked part and a layer of cooked stuff comes off. Only I wasn't
>> scraping. It just came off.
>>
>> I am not sure I will buy these again. She said they were okay. Just
>> okay.
>> Said she thought they might need ketchup. I have never liked ketchup
>> with
>> my meat unless it is meatloaf and then I like it mixed in and baked over
>> the
>> top. But I really prefer chili sauce. But I digress.
>>
>> So anyway... What did I do wrong? I have 10 more patties left and I'd
>> like
>> them to come out as patties and not assorted sized chunks and pieces.
>>
>
> You bought pre-formed patties. If you must buy pre-formed patties rather
> than a package of ground meat, you really do have to defrost them
> completely before cooking.

Oh bother. I hate defrosting meat. Thanks.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Alice Faber" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >,
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>>> I bought a bag of these for Angela to try. Jenni-O brand. Frozen.
>>> They
>>> come 2 patties back to back with paper in between.
>>>
>>> I could *not* get the paper out. Was I supposed to have defrosted
>>> them
>>> first? This is why I hate the frozen hamburger patties. Luckily I
>>> can buy
>>> really good pre-cooked hamburger patties at Costco. But not turkey
>>> ones.
>>>
>>> Eventually I got the paper out as they cooked but they didn't cook
>>> well at
>>> all. As soon as a thin layer had cooked it just peeled off of the
>>> frozen
>>> part. It was like cooking a pound of frozen ground beef where you
>>> scrape
>>> the cooked part and a layer of cooked stuff comes off. Only I
>>> wasn't
>>> scraping. It just came off.
>>>
>>> I am not sure I will buy these again. She said they were okay.
>>> Just okay.
>>> Said she thought they might need ketchup. I have never liked
>>> ketchup with
>>> my meat unless it is meatloaf and then I like it mixed in and baked
>>> over the
>>> top. But I really prefer chili sauce. But I digress.
>>>
>>> So anyway... What did I do wrong? I have 10 more patties left and
>>> I'd like
>>> them to come out as patties and not assorted sized chunks and
>>> pieces.
>>>
>>
>> You bought pre-formed patties. If you must buy pre-formed patties
>> rather
>> than a package of ground meat, you really do have to defrost them
>> completely before cooking.
>
> Oh bother. I hate defrosting meat. Thanks.
>

"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Alice Faber" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In article >,
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I bought a bag of these for Angela to try. Jenni-O brand. Frozen.
>>>> They
>>>> come 2 patties back to back with paper in between.
>>>>
>>>> I could *not* get the paper out. Was I supposed to have defrosted
>>>> them
>>>> first? This is why I hate the frozen hamburger patties. Luckily I
>>>> can buy
>>>> really good pre-cooked hamburger patties at Costco. But not turkey
>>>> ones.
>>>>
>>>> Eventually I got the paper out as they cooked but they didn't cook
>>>> well at
>>>> all. As soon as a thin layer had cooked it just peeled off of the
>>>> frozen
>>>> part. It was like cooking a pound of frozen ground beef where you
>>>> scrape
>>>> the cooked part and a layer of cooked stuff comes off. Only I
>>>> wasn't
>>>> scraping. It just came off.
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure I will buy these again. She said they were okay.
>>>> Just okay.
>>>> Said she thought they might need ketchup. I have never liked
>>>> ketchup with
>>>> my meat unless it is meatloaf and then I like it mixed in and baked
>>>> over the
>>>> top. But I really prefer chili sauce. But I digress.
>>>>
>>>> So anyway... What did I do wrong? I have 10 more patties left and
>>>> I'd like
>>>> them to come out as patties and not assorted sized chunks and
>>>> pieces.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You bought pre-formed patties. If you must buy pre-formed patties
>>> rather
>>> than a package of ground meat, you really do have to defrost them
>>> completely before cooking.
>>
>> Oh bother. I hate defrosting meat. Thanks.


Ooo, an empty message I have meat defrosting in the dish drainer
every day In winter its as soon as I get out of bed if its something
thick, in summer about an hour or two before dinner, if its steak or
chops, longer for minced meat, whole chickens etc.

"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Alice Faber" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> In article >,
>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I bought a bag of these for Angela to try. Jenni-O brand. Frozen.
>>>>> They
>>>>> come 2 patties back to back with paper in between.
>>>>>
>>>>> I could *not* get the paper out. Was I supposed to have defrosted
>>>>> them
>>>>> first? This is why I hate the frozen hamburger patties. Luckily I
>>>>> can buy
>>>>> really good pre-cooked hamburger patties at Costco. But not turkey
>>>>> ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eventually I got the paper out as they cooked but they didn't cook
>>>>> well at
>>>>> all. As soon as a thin layer had cooked it just peeled off of the
>>>>> frozen
>>>>> part. It was like cooking a pound of frozen ground beef where you
>>>>> scrape
>>>>> the cooked part and a layer of cooked stuff comes off. Only I wasn't
>>>>> scraping. It just came off.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure I will buy these again. She said they were okay. Just
>>>>> okay.
>>>>> Said she thought they might need ketchup. I have never liked ketchup
>>>>> with
>>>>> my meat unless it is meatloaf and then I like it mixed in and baked
>>>>> over the
>>>>> top. But I really prefer chili sauce. But I digress.
>>>>>
>>>>> So anyway... What did I do wrong? I have 10 more patties left and
>>>>> I'd like
>>>>> them to come out as patties and not assorted sized chunks and pieces.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You bought pre-formed patties. If you must buy pre-formed patties
>>>> rather
>>>> than a package of ground meat, you really do have to defrost them
>>>> completely before cooking.
>>>
>>> Oh bother. I hate defrosting meat. Thanks.
>
>
> Ooo, an empty message I have meat defrosting in the dish drainer every
> day In winter its as soon as I get out of bed if its something thick,
> in summer about an hour or two before dinner, if its steak or chops,
> longer for minced meat, whole chickens etc.

I usually try not to freeze meat unless it's cooked. I never remember to
take anything out to defrost. They say to defrost it in the fridge nowadays
for food safety and that can take 2-3 days.

When I was a kid my mom just put it on a plate at the base of the fridge
where the warm air it kicked out would defrost it.

Perhaps what I should do is just defrost the whole package, cook it all and
refreeze it. Then if she wanted a patty she could just nuke it. Of course
I would have to label it in some way so I didn't accidentally eat it. Cuz
that wouldn't go over well. I only ever had ground turkey once. It was one
of my few cooking disasters. I tried to turn it into meatballs. We could
have played tennis with them.

On 8/18/2011 9:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I bought a bag of these for Angela to try. Jenni-O brand. Frozen. They
> come 2 patties back to back with paper in between.
>
> I could *not* get the paper out. Was I supposed to have defrosted them
> first? This is why I hate the frozen hamburger patties. Luckily I can buy
> really good pre-cooked hamburger patties at Costco. But not turkey ones.
>
> Eventually I got the paper out as they cooked but they didn't cook well at
> all. As soon as a thin layer had cooked it just peeled off of the frozen
> part. It was like cooking a pound of frozen ground beef where you scrape
> the cooked part and a layer of cooked stuff comes off. Only I wasn't
> scraping. It just came off.
>
> I am not sure I will buy these again. She said they were okay. Just okay.
> Said she thought they might need ketchup. I have never liked ketchup with
> my meat unless it is meatloaf and then I like it mixed in and baked over the
> top. But I really prefer chili sauce. But I digress.
>
> So anyway... What did I do wrong? I have 10 more patties left and I'd like
> them to come out as patties and not assorted sized chunks and pieces.
>
> Thanks.

Have you thought about asking her how often she'll eat them,
to get a better idea of whether it's worthwhile to thaw
some to make it easier to remove the paper? I suspect that
the paper blocked the steam from the cooked part from
reaching the part still frozen.

You could always place the ketchup on the table and simply
not use any yourself.

Is it practical to use a microwave, since that should be
better it sending the heat deeper into the frozen meat?

Or do you like complaining on newsgroups so much you
prefer to reject any attempts to solve even a part of
your problems?

"Robert Miles" > wrote in message
om...
> Have you thought about asking her how often she'll eat them,
> to get a better idea of whether it's worthwhile to thaw
> some to make it easier to remove the paper? I suspect that
> the paper blocked the steam from the cooked part from
> reaching the part still frozen.

She won't *want* to eat them at all, I'm sure. She said they weren't very
good. If she wants me to throw them out I'm fine with that. I personally
think they are nasty. I was just trying to find something quick to fix that
she would like.
>
> You could always place the ketchup on the table and simply
> not use any yourself.

What? Why would you even say something like that?
>
> Is it practical to use a microwave, since that should be
> better it sending the heat deeper into the frozen meat?

I don't like the way meat comes out in a microwave. I don't even like to
use it to defrost things.
>
> Or do you like complaining on newsgroups so much you
> prefer to reject any attempts to solve even a part of
> your problems?

I was simply asking about cooking them. Apparently the key is to defrost
them. Which seems kind of strange seeing as how they come frozen. I won't
be buying them again. That's for sure!

"Robert Miles" > wrote in message
om...
> On 8/18/2011 9:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I bought a bag of these for Angela to try. Jenni-O brand. Frozen.
>> They
>> come 2 patties back to back with paper in between.
>>
>> I could *not* get the paper out. Was I supposed to have defrosted
>> them
>> first? This is why I hate the frozen hamburger patties. Luckily I
>> can buy
>> really good pre-cooked hamburger patties at Costco. But not turkey
>> ones.
>>
>> Eventually I got the paper out as they cooked but they didn't cook
>> well at
>> all. As soon as a thin layer had cooked it just peeled off of the
>> frozen
>> part. It was like cooking a pound of frozen ground beef where you
>> scrape
>> the cooked part and a layer of cooked stuff comes off. Only I wasn't
>> scraping. It just came off.
>>
>> I am not sure I will buy these again. She said they were okay. Just
>> okay.
>> Said she thought they might need ketchup. I have never liked ketchup
>> with
>> my meat unless it is meatloaf and then I like it mixed in and baked
>> over the
>> top. But I really prefer chili sauce. But I digress.
>>
>> So anyway... What did I do wrong? I have 10 more patties left and
>> I'd like
>> them to come out as patties and not assorted sized chunks and pieces.
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> Have you thought about asking her how often she'll eat them,
> to get a better idea of whether it's worthwhile to thaw
> some to make it easier to remove the paper? I suspect that
> the paper blocked the steam from the cooked part from
> reaching the part still frozen.
>
> You could always place the ketchup on the table and simply
> not use any yourself.
>
> Is it practical to use a microwave, since that should be
> better it sending the heat deeper into the frozen meat?
>
> Or do you like complaining on newsgroups so much you
> prefer to reject any attempts to solve even a part of
> your problems?]

I cook meat and chicken patties in the micro all the time when kids just
want a quick burger snack. I wrap them individually in paper towel.
Usually take about 1 1/2 - 2 minutes in my micro. The paper between
some of those packaged patties tends to stick if you allow them to
defrost even a little bit so they need to be put in the freezer the
second you arrive home from shopping. Back in the day before I had the
youngest 4 of my 7 I tended to make many more things from scratch. I
used to used fresh minced beef and use the Tupperware hamburger thingy.
http://www.amazon.com/Tupperware-Ham.../dp/B0006IBZ8W
Ok, so the whole Tupperware party thing was a bit cheesy but damn if
they didn't have great and often unique stuff

"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Robert Miles" > wrote in message
> om...
>> On 8/18/2011 9:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I bought a bag of these for Angela to try. Jenni-O brand. Frozen. They
>>> come 2 patties back to back with paper in between.
>>>
>>> I could *not* get the paper out. Was I supposed to have defrosted them
>>> first? This is why I hate the frozen hamburger patties. Luckily I can
>>> buy
>>> really good pre-cooked hamburger patties at Costco. But not turkey
>>> ones.
>>>
>>> Eventually I got the paper out as they cooked but they didn't cook well
>>> at
>>> all. As soon as a thin layer had cooked it just peeled off of the
>>> frozen
>>> part. It was like cooking a pound of frozen ground beef where you
>>> scrape
>>> the cooked part and a layer of cooked stuff comes off. Only I wasn't
>>> scraping. It just came off.
>>>
>>> I am not sure I will buy these again. She said they were okay. Just
>>> okay.
>>> Said she thought they might need ketchup. I have never liked ketchup
>>> with
>>> my meat unless it is meatloaf and then I like it mixed in and baked over
>>> the
>>> top. But I really prefer chili sauce. But I digress.
>>>
>>> So anyway... What did I do wrong? I have 10 more patties left and I'd
>>> like
>>> them to come out as patties and not assorted sized chunks and pieces.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> Have you thought about asking her how often she'll eat them,
>> to get a better idea of whether it's worthwhile to thaw
>> some to make it easier to remove the paper? I suspect that
>> the paper blocked the steam from the cooked part from
>> reaching the part still frozen.
>>
>> You could always place the ketchup on the table and simply
>> not use any yourself.
>>
>> Is it practical to use a microwave, since that should be
>> better it sending the heat deeper into the frozen meat?
>>
>> Or do you like complaining on newsgroups so much you
>> prefer to reject any attempts to solve even a part of
>> your problems?]
>
> I cook meat and chicken patties in the micro all the time when kids just
> want a quick burger snack. I wrap them individually in paper towel.
> Usually take about 1 1/2 - 2 minutes in my micro. The paper between some
> of those packaged patties tends to stick if you allow them to defrost even
> a little bit so they need to be put in the freezer the second you arrive
> home from shopping. Back in the day before I had the youngest 4 of my 7 I
> tended to make many more things from scratch. I used to used fresh minced
> beef and use the Tupperware hamburger thingy.
> http://www.amazon.com/Tupperware-Ham.../dp/B0006IBZ8W
> Ok, so the whole Tupperware party thing was a bit cheesy but damn if they
> didn't have great and often unique stuff

Wow that's expensive! I am not a big fan of Tupperware by any means. For
the most part I think it is just overpriced. I have had tons of it over the
years. Most of it was stuff I didn't buy. I have been invited to a few
Tupperware parties and I always feel like I have to buy something. So I
will buy one thing that I usually don't need. The rest of the Tupperware I
had came from roommates who left it there when they moved.

One roommate had a Tupperware party at our house. The Tupperware lady
showed this movie of her house. Every single thing in her kitchen was in
Tupperware. The cereal. The pasta. The ice cream! To me her kitchen just
looked freaky.

Julie Bove wrote:
> I bought a bag of these for Angela to try. Jenni-O brand. Frozen. They
> come 2 patties back to back with paper in between.
>
> I could *not* get the paper out. Was I supposed to have defrosted
> them first? This is why I hate the frozen hamburger patties. Luckily I
> can buy really good pre-cooked hamburger patties at Costco.
> But not turkey ones.
> Eventually I got the paper out as they cooked but they didn't cook
> well at all. As soon as a thin layer had cooked it just peeled off
> of the frozen part. It was like cooking a pound of frozen ground
> beef where you scrape the cooked part and a layer of cooked stuff
> comes off. Only I wasn't scraping. It just came off.
>
> I am not sure I will buy these again. She said they were okay. Just
> okay. Said she thought they might need ketchup. I have never liked
> ketchup with my meat unless it is meatloaf and then I like it mixed
> in and baked over the top. But I really prefer chili sauce. But I
> digress.
> So anyway... What did I do wrong? I have 10 more patties left and
> I'd like them to come out as patties and not assorted sized chunks
> and pieces.
> Thanks.

You have to defrost them first. You can defrost them in the microwave using
low power or an auto defrost cycle. I make turkey burgers from packages of
raw ground turkey, and sometimes wrap them in plastic, and freeze them. I'm
fairly sure it is a lot cheaper than buying pre-formed burgers. If you don't
want to touch the meat, it is something Angela could do.

I find that for decent burger texture it is essential to handle ground
turkey as little as possible. I normally pat some spices over the outside,
and cook them in a preheated cast iron frying pan sprayed with a little PAM,
since the turkey is so lean that it tends to stick. I find that turkey
burgers have to cooked a bit more carefully than beef burgers.

My favorite spice coating for turkey burgers is Penzey's Barbecue of the
Americas, but there are other good combos. I like the barbecue-spiced burger
in a low carb pita with a little mayo and lettuce, tomato, etc.

"Janet" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> I bought a bag of these for Angela to try. Jenni-O brand. Frozen. They
>> come 2 patties back to back with paper in between.
>>
>> I could *not* get the paper out. Was I supposed to have defrosted
>> them first? This is why I hate the frozen hamburger patties. Luckily I
>> can buy really good pre-cooked hamburger patties at Costco.
>> But not turkey ones.
>> Eventually I got the paper out as they cooked but they didn't cook
>> well at all. As soon as a thin layer had cooked it just peeled off
>> of the frozen part. It was like cooking a pound of frozen ground
>> beef where you scrape the cooked part and a layer of cooked stuff
>> comes off. Only I wasn't scraping. It just came off.
>>
>> I am not sure I will buy these again. She said they were okay. Just
>> okay. Said she thought they might need ketchup. I have never liked
>> ketchup with my meat unless it is meatloaf and then I like it mixed
>> in and baked over the top. But I really prefer chili sauce. But I
>> digress.
>> So anyway... What did I do wrong? I have 10 more patties left and
>> I'd like them to come out as patties and not assorted sized chunks
>> and pieces.
>> Thanks.
>
> You have to defrost them first. You can defrost them in the microwave
> using low power or an auto defrost cycle. I make turkey burgers from
> packages of raw ground turkey, and sometimes wrap them in plastic, and
> freeze them. I'm fairly sure it is a lot cheaper than buying pre-formed
> burgers. If you don't want to touch the meat, it is something Angela could
> do.
>
> I find that for decent burger texture it is essential to handle ground
> turkey as little as possible. I normally pat some spices over the outside,
> and cook them in a preheated cast iron frying pan sprayed with a little
> PAM, since the turkey is so lean that it tends to stick. I find that
> turkey burgers have to cooked a bit more carefully than beef burgers.
>
> My favorite spice coating for turkey burgers is Penzey's Barbecue of the
> Americas, but there are other good combos. I like the barbecue-spiced
> burger in a low carb pita with a little mayo and lettuce, tomato, etc.

I think then I will just defrost them all and cook them all then freeze
them.