"Ozgirl" > wrote:
> Nick Cramer wrote:
> > "Ozgirl" > wrote:
> >> Nick Cramer wrote:
> >>> Just before dinner BG 68. Had three cheese enchiladas from Vallarta
> >>> market, with a spicy green sauce, topped with sour cream. Tortilla
> >>> chips, refried beans and rice on the side. Ate all the chips and
> >>> beans, half of the rice. Should've only had half of the beans and
> >>> skipped the rice. One hour PP BG 124. Two hour 165. Three hour 174.
> >>> Four hour 197. Five hour 181. Talk about pizza effect!
> >>
> >> Or talk about killing beta cells Haven't you ever questioned why
> >> you have progressing neuropathy, that meal was a perfect example...
> >
> > I'm sure you're right, Ozgirl. I was a little worried about the FBG
> > of 60 and the pre-meal BG of 68. I definitely overcorrected. ;-(
>
> Normal numbers for me

So, you don't think I have to worry about an FBG of 60? I had a 46 one
morning. I think I ate a bagel to bring it up. Don't remember the PP BG, as
that was before I started keeping notes with

http://www.healthdiabeticsoftware.com/

Take care.

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Nick Cramer wrote:
> "Ozgirl" > wrote:
>> Nick Cramer wrote:
>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote:
>>>> Nick Cramer wrote:
>>>>> Just before dinner BG 68. Had three cheese enchiladas from
>>>>> Vallarta market, with a spicy green sauce, topped with sour
>>>>> cream. Tortilla chips, refried beans and rice on the side. Ate
>>>>> all the chips and beans, half of the rice. Should've only had
>>>>> half of the beans and skipped the rice. One hour PP BG 124. Two
>>>>> hour 165. Three hour 174. Four hour 197. Five hour 181. Talk
>>>>> about pizza effect!
>>>>
>>>> Or talk about killing beta cells Haven't you ever questioned why
>>>> you have progressing neuropathy, that meal was a perfect example...
>>>
>>> I'm sure you're right, Ozgirl. I was a little worried about the FBG
>>> of 60 and the pre-meal BG of 68. I definitely overcorrected. ;-(
>>
>> Normal numbers for me
>
> So, you don't think I have to worry about an FBG of 60? I had a 46 one
> morning. I think I ate a bagel to bring it up.

I don't take drugs or insulin, nothing to drive my bg's down to a dangerous
level.

Nick Cramer wrote:

>
> So, you don't think I have to worry about an FBG of 60? I had a 46 one
> morning. I think I ate a bagel to bring it up. Don't remember the PP BG, as
> that was before I started keeping notes with


DH sometimes has numbers in the high 60's. He uses the 15-15 method to
bring up his BG. 15 grams of quick acting carbs. Wait 15 minutes and
test again. If not back up to "normal" try another 15 grams of
fast-acting carbs and another 15 minute wait.

Fast acting carbs are glucose tablets, fruit juice, skim milk, regular
soda and other high sucrose things. A bagel is not a fast acting carb
and might just leave you a lot higher than you want to be.





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Janet Wilder > wrote:
> Nick Cramer wrote:
> >
> > So, you don't think I have to worry about an FBG of 60? I had a 46 one
> > morning. I think I ate a bagel to bring it up. Don't remember the PP
> > BG, as that was before I started keeping notes with
>
> DH sometimes has numbers in the high 60's. He uses the 15-15 method to
> bring up his BG. 15 grams of quick acting carbs. Wait 15 minutes and
> test again. If not back up to "normal" try another 15 grams of
> fast-acting carbs and another 15 minute wait.
>
> Fast acting carbs are glucose tablets, fruit juice, skim milk, regular
> soda and other high sucrose things. A bagel is not a fast acting carb
> and might just leave you a lot higher than you want to be.

Thanks, Janet. We have skim milk (ugh), regular soda and some sweet fruit
juices (argh), occasionally, real orange juice (Screwdriver for breakfast -
Doctor's orders). I'll try that 15-15 method next time. But bagels with
cream cheese sure are good! ;-)

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Nick Cramer wrote:
> Janet Wilder > wrote:
>> Nick Cramer wrote:
>>> So, you don't think I have to worry about an FBG of 60? I had a 46 one
>>> morning. I think I ate a bagel to bring it up. Don't remember the PP
>>> BG, as that was before I started keeping notes with
>> DH sometimes has numbers in the high 60's. He uses the 15-15 method to
>> bring up his BG. 15 grams of quick acting carbs. Wait 15 minutes and
>> test again. If not back up to "normal" try another 15 grams of
>> fast-acting carbs and another 15 minute wait.
>>
>> Fast acting carbs are glucose tablets, fruit juice, skim milk, regular
>> soda and other high sucrose things. A bagel is not a fast acting carb
>> and might just leave you a lot higher than you want to be.
>
> Thanks, Janet. We have skim milk (ugh), regular soda and some sweet fruit
> juices (argh), occasionally, real orange juice (Screwdriver for breakfast -
> Doctor's orders). I'll try that 15-15 method next time. But bagels with
> cream cheese sure are good! ;-)
>

Even 1 Sara Lee mini bagel is 21 grams of carbs!

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Janet Wilder > wrote:
> Nick Cramer wrote:
> >
> > So, you don't think I have to worry about an FBG of 60? I had a 46 one
> > morning. I think I ate a bagel to bring it up. Don't remember the PP
> > BG, as that was before I started keeping notes with
>
> DH sometimes has numbers in the high 60's. He uses the 15-15 method to
> bring up his BG. 15 grams of quick acting carbs. Wait 15 minutes and
> test again. If not back up to "normal" try another 15 grams of
> fast-acting carbs and another 15 minute wait.
>
> Fast acting carbs are glucose tablets, fruit juice, skim milk, regular
> soda and other high sucrose things. A bagel is not a fast acting carb
> and might just leave you a lot higher than you want to be.

Thanks, Janet. We have skim milk (ugh), regular soda and some sweet fruit
juices (argh), occasionally, real orange juice (Screwdriver for breakfast -
Doctor's orders). Oh. 1 Tbs of Guava Nectar! I'll try that 15-15 method
next time. But bagels with cream cheese sure are good! ;-)

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On 16 May 2008 11:14:35 GMT, Nick Cramer
> wrote:

>
>So, you don't think I have to worry about an FBG of 60? I had a 46 one
>morning. I think I ate a bagel to bring it up. Don't remember the PP BG, as
>that was before I started keeping notes with
>
>http://www.healthdiabeticsoftware.com/
>
>Take care.

I would only worry if I had hypo symptoms.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
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"Alan S" > wrote in message
...
> On 16 May 2008 11:14:35 GMT, Nick Cramer
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>So, you don't think I have to worry about an FBG of 60? I had a 46 one
>>morning. I think I ate a bagel to bring it up. Don't remember the PP BG,
>>as
>>that was before I started keeping notes with
>>
>>http://www.healthdiabeticsoftware.com/
>>
>>Take care.
>
> I would only worry if I had hypo symptoms.

In my case I can't always FEEL the hypo. If others are around, they might
notice that I am acting strangely. But I might be by myself. So I think
it's best to treat.

Alan S > wrote:
> > wrote:
>
> >So, you don't think I have to worry about an FBG of 60? I had a 46 one
> >morning. I think I ate a bagel to bring it up. Don't remember the PP BG,
> >as that was before I started keeping notes with
> >
> >http://www.healthdiabeticsoftware.com/

> I would only worry if I had hypo symptoms.

What are the symptoms? I've never noticed anything unusual.

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On 17 May 2008 10:48:05 GMT, Nick Cramer
> wrote:

>Alan S > wrote:
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >So, you don't think I have to worry about an FBG of 60? I had a 46 one
>> >morning. I think I ate a bagel to bring it up. Don't remember the PP BG,
>> >as that was before I started keeping notes with
>> >
>> >http://www.healthdiabeticsoftware.com/
>
>> I would only worry if I had hypo symptoms.
>
>What are the symptoms? I've never noticed anything unusual.

For me it was usually (but not always) shakes, an inability
to properly control my limbs, a feeling of
vertigo/nausea/dizziness.

I only went unconscious once, and that was before diagnosis.
The best post-diagnosis was when I was in the middle of the
pool and suddenly couldn't swim. But I made it to the side
somehow.

I can't recall having one in the past couple of years; in
fact they've been rare since I added metformin three years
back.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
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Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.

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http://loraltravel.blogspot.com

Alan S > wrote:
> > wrote:
> >Alan S > wrote:
> >> > wrote:
[]
> >> I would only worry if I had hypo symptoms.
> >
> >What are the symptoms? I've never noticed anything unusual.
>
> For me it was usually (but not always) shakes, an inability
> to properly control my limbs, a feeling of
> vertigo/nausea/dizziness. [ . . . ]

Well, I haven't had any of those symptoms, yet, but I'll watch out for
them. I've never passed out, but have had to crawl or be dragged to bed a
few times! LOL

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For me it can different symptons..somtimes its the shakes..othertimes its a
headache..othertimes i fell buzzed or get really chatty..othertimes i get
grouchy as hell.

when im online people can tell cause my typing goes to crap and i invert
letters etc.

KROM



"Alan S" > wrote in message
...
> On 17 May 2008 10:48:05 GMT, Nick Cramer
> > wrote:
>
>>Alan S > wrote:
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >So, you don't think I have to worry about an FBG of 60? I had a 46 one
>>> >morning. I think I ate a bagel to bring it up. Don't remember the PP
>>> >BG,
>>> >as that was before I started keeping notes with
>>> >
>>> >http://www.healthdiabeticsoftware.com/
>>
>>> I would only worry if I had hypo symptoms.
>>
>>What are the symptoms? I've never noticed anything unusual.
>
> For me it was usually (but not always) shakes, an inability
> to properly control my limbs, a feeling of
> vertigo/nausea/dizziness.
>
> I only went unconscious once, and that was before diagnosis.
> The best post-diagnosis was when I was in the middle of the
> pool and suddenly couldn't swim. But I made it to the side
> somehow.
>
> I can't recall having one in the past couple of years; in
> fact they've been rare since I added metformin three years
> back.
>
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
> --
> http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
> Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.
>
> Angkor Wat
> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com

"Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
...
> Alan S > wrote:
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >So, you don't think I have to worry about an FBG of 60? I had a 46 one
>> >morning. I think I ate a bagel to bring it up. Don't remember the PP BG,
>> >as that was before I started keeping notes with
>> >
>> >http://www.healthdiabeticsoftware.com/
>
>> I would only worry if I had hypo symptoms.
>
> What are the symptoms? I've never noticed anything unusual.

They can vary and like I said in my other reply, sometimes there are none.
This can be scary because you don't always think clearly when you have a
hypo. I've had one, gone into the kitchen for candy or other food, then
spaced out and forgotten why I went in there. Sometimes I wind up crying as
I'm putting away dishes, or washing dishes or whatever else I can see that
needs done, never realizing I need food until I see it. One I passed out on
the fridge. Literally in the fridge. I opened it up, then tried to crawl
inside. That's how bad the brain can get when you're having one.

For me, if I do get symptoms they can really vary. Might get light headed,
see spots or bright colors swirling around overhead. I might start laughing
or saying silly things. Acting drunk. If I am typing, I make a ton of
typos and don't realize it. Or I realize it but am unable to do anything
about it. My legs can turn to rubber. I can feel sick to my stomach, or
get a headache. Get really dizzy. Sometimes pass out. Get all hot and
cold at the same time, breaking out in a sweat. I might feel super hungry,
and or crave sweet foods. Or worse yet, I will refuse food when someone
else attempts to give it to me. I will know I am hungry but will get
adamant and say it is not time for me to eat. Sometimes I can get really
snappish and surly to those around me. Might have one or more of those
symptoms or none at all.

I usually get the shakes and have a problem keeping focus, sometimes get
pretty grouchy...walked out in front of a car once...thank goodness it was
in a parking lot and the guy was driving slow, he probably thought I was
nuts. I am on Metformin so don't go hypo often , but that day I had fasting
blood tests, and had errands to run while in town and forgot to eat, so by 4
in the afternoon I was feeling pretty lousy Never did that again.
Jacquie
"Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
...
> Alan S > wrote:
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >So, you don't think I have to worry about an FBG of 60? I had a 46 one
>> >morning. I think I ate a bagel to bring it up. Don't remember the PP BG,
>> >as that was before I started keeping notes with
>> >
>> >http://www.healthdiabeticsoftware.com/
>
>> I would only worry if I had hypo symptoms.
>
> What are the symptoms? I've never noticed anything unusual.
>
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> I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
> They
> are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
> forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

"jacquie" > wrote:
> I usually get the shakes and have a problem keeping focus, sometimes get
> pretty grouchy...walked out in front of a car once...thank goodness it
> was in a parking lot and the guy was driving slow, he probably thought I
> was nuts. I am on Metformin so don't go hypo often , but that day I had
> fasting blood tests, and had errands to run while in town and forgot to
> eat, so by 4 in the afternoon I was feeling pretty lousy Never did that
> again. Jacquie
> "Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
> > Alan S > wrote:
> >> > wrote:
[ . . . ]

That had ta be scary. I used to walk in front of cars, going to mine,
parked across the street, when I was drunk. A long time ago.

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It was...took a few minutes for my heart to slow down


"Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
...
> "jacquie" > wrote:
>> I usually get the shakes and have a problem keeping focus, sometimes get
>> pretty grouchy...walked out in front of a car once...thank goodness it
>> was in a parking lot and the guy was driving slow, he probably thought I
>> was nuts. I am on Metformin so don't go hypo often , but that day I had
>> fasting blood tests, and had errands to run while in town and forgot to
>> eat, so by 4 in the afternoon I was feeling pretty lousy Never did that
>> again. Jacquie
>> "Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
>> > Alan S > wrote:
>> >> > wrote:
> [ . . . ]
>
> That had ta be scary. I used to walk in front of cars, going to mine,
> parked across the street, when I was drunk. A long time ago.
>
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> I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
> They
> are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
> forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~