FBG 118. Lunch was large, button mushroom caps, stuffed with ground pork,
minced mushroom stems and soy sauce, topped with fried garlic and FGBP. One
hour post prandial 142. Two hour 121.

Gotta find low carb 'shrooms!

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"Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
...
> FBG 118. Lunch was large, button mushroom caps, stuffed with ground pork,
> minced mushroom stems and soy sauce, topped with fried garlic and FGBP.
> One
> hour post prandial 142. Two hour 121.
>
> Gotta find low carb 'shrooms!

Mushrooms are low carb.

On 24 Apr 2008 01:37:05 GMT, Nick Cramer >
wrote:

>FBG 118. Lunch was large, button mushroom caps, stuffed with ground pork,
>minced mushroom stems and soy sauce, topped with fried garlic and FGBP. One
>hour post prandial 142. Two hour 121.
>
>Gotta find low carb 'shrooms!

Fasting bg when you got up, no breakfast? That wasn't carbs in your
mushrooms (they don't have any to speak of), it was liver dump.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

"Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
> > FBG 118. Lunch was large, button mushroom caps, stuffed with ground
> > pork, minced mushroom stems and soy sauce, topped with fried garlic and
> > FGBP. One hour post prandial 142. Two hour 121.
> >
> > Gotta find low carb 'shrooms!
>
> Mushrooms are low carb.

But all mushrooms are not created equal! Check

http://www.carb-counter.org/veg/search/Mushrooms/1100

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wrote:
> Nick Cramer wrote:
> > FBG 118. Lunch was large, button mushroom caps, stuffed with ground
> > pork, minced mushroom stems and soy sauce, topped with fried garlic and
> > FGBP. One hour post prandial 142. Two hour 121.
> >
> > Gotta find low carb 'shrooms!
>
> Mushrooms are very low carb; look at the other ingredients, AND, avoid
> eating carbs if you test 110 or higher just before eating, period.
>
> Should help.

Thanks, Susan. The other ingredients are listed. No carbs there. As I
replied to Julie, http://www.carb-counter.org/veg/search/Mushrooms/1100.

Not eating 'til my BG is below 110 sounds like a plan. I'll try it. ;-)

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Nicky > wrote:
> On 24 Apr 2008 01:37:05 GMT, Nick Cramer >

> >FBG 118. Lunch was large, button mushroom caps, stuffed with ground
> >pork, minced mushroom stems and soy sauce, topped with fried garlic and
> >FGBP. One hour post prandial 142. Two hour 121.
> >
> >Gotta find low carb 'shrooms!
>
> Fasting bg when you got up, no breakfast? That wasn't carbs in your
> mushrooms (they don't have any to speak of), it was liver dump.

No brekkie. Five hours after I got up. Wife chides me for that. ;-(

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"Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
>> > FBG 118. Lunch was large, button mushroom caps, stuffed with ground
>> > pork, minced mushroom stems and soy sauce, topped with fried garlic and
>> > FGBP. One hour post prandial 142. Two hour 121.
>> >
>> > Gotta find low carb 'shrooms!
>>
>> Mushrooms are low carb.
>
> But all mushrooms are not created equal! Check
>
> http://www.carb-counter.org/veg/search/Mushrooms/1100

There doesn't appear to be much difference. For one cup of raw mushrooms, a
couple of kinds have one gram more carb than the other. Oddly the shiitake
have the highest carb count. I wouldn't think these would be used for
stuffing, but I could be wrong. They are more expensive so if I do buy
them, it is in small quantity and mixed with other cheaper mushrooms. I
generally only make sauce out of them.

"Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
...
> wrote:
>> Nick Cramer wrote:
>> > FBG 118. Lunch was large, button mushroom caps, stuffed with ground
>> > pork, minced mushroom stems and soy sauce, topped with fried garlic and
>> > FGBP. One hour post prandial 142. Two hour 121.
>> >
>> > Gotta find low carb 'shrooms!
>>
>> Mushrooms are very low carb; look at the other ingredients, AND, avoid
>> eating carbs if you test 110 or higher just before eating, period.
>>
>> Should help.
>
> Thanks, Susan. The other ingredients are listed. No carbs there. As I
> replied to Julie, http://www.carb-counter.org/veg/search/Mushrooms/1100.
>
> Not eating 'til my BG is below 110 sounds like a plan. I'll try it. ;-)

That might work for you, but I could starve to death. Currently I am seeing
a number below 110 about every 4 days. Grrr... And if I DON'T eat, my BG
only goes higher.

"Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
> > wrote:
> >> Nick Cramer wrote:
> >> > FBG 118. Lunch was large, button mushroom caps, stuffed with ground
> >> > pork, minced mushroom stems and soy sauce, topped with fried garlic
> >> > and FGBP. One hour post prandial 142. Two hour 121.
> >> >
> >> > Gotta find low carb 'shrooms!
> >>
> >> Mushrooms are very low carb; look at the other ingredients, AND, avoid
> >> eating carbs if you test 110 or higher just before eating, period.
> >>
> >> Should help.
> >
> > Thanks, Susan. The other ingredients are listed. No carbs there. As I
> > replied to Julie,
> > http://www.carb-counter.org/veg/search/Mushrooms/1100.
> >
> > Not eating 'til my BG is below 110 sounds like a plan. I'll try it. ;-)
>
> That might work for you, but I could starve to death. Currently I am
> seeing a number below 110 about every 4 days. Grrr... And if I DON'T
> eat, my BG only goes higher.

Such a weird disease. We shall see. News at 11!

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
> "Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
> ...
>> wrote:
>>> Nick Cramer wrote:
>>> > FBG 118. Lunch was large, button mushroom caps, stuffed with ground
>>> > pork, minced mushroom stems and soy sauce, topped with fried garlic
>>> > and
>>> > FGBP. One hour post prandial 142. Two hour 121.
>>> >
>>> > Gotta find low carb 'shrooms!
>>>
>>> Mushrooms are very low carb; look at the other ingredients, AND, avoid
>>> eating carbs if you test 110 or higher just before eating, period.
>>>
>>> Should help.
>>
>> Thanks, Susan. The other ingredients are listed. No carbs there. As I
>> replied to Julie, http://www.carb-counter.org/veg/search/Mushrooms/1100.
>>
>> Not eating 'til my BG is below 110 sounds like a plan. I'll try it. ;-)
>
> That might work for you, but I could starve to death. Currently I am
> seeing a number below 110 about every 4 days. Grrr... And if I DON'T
> eat, my BG only goes higher.


Half a chook or side of beef would fill you? No? But I'd say missing brekky
did the most damage. Do you test between the fasting number and the
beginning of lunch?

"Ozgirl" > wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> > "Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
> >> wrote:
> >>> Nick Cramer wrote:
> >>> > FBG 118. Lunch was large, button mushroom caps, stuffed with ground
> >>> > pork, minced mushroom stems and soy sauce, topped with fried garlic
> >>> > and
> >>> > FGBP. One hour post prandial 142. Two hour 121.
> >>> >
> >>> > Gotta find low carb 'shrooms!
> >>>
> >>> Mushrooms are very low carb; look at the other ingredients, AND,
> >>> avoid eating carbs if you test 110 or higher just before eating,
> >>> period.
> >>>
> >>> Should help.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Susan. The other ingredients are listed. No carbs there. As I
> >> replied to Julie,
> >> http://www.carb-counter.org/veg/search/Mushrooms/1100.
> >>
> >> Not eating 'til my BG is below 110 sounds like a plan. I'll try it.
> >> ;-)
> >
> > That might work for you, but I could starve to death. Currently I am
> > seeing a number below 110 about every 4 days. Grrr... And if I DON'T
> > eat, my BG only goes higher.
>
> Half a chook or side of beef would fill you? No? But I'd say missing
> brekky did the most damage. Do you test between the fasting number and
> the beginning of lunch?

Thanks, Ozgirl. I like bacon and eggs for brekkie, get it sometimes. Wife
works, I get up late. The fasting number was at the beginning of lunch. ;-/

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On 24 Apr 2008 08:09:32 GMT, Nick Cramer >
wrote:

>Nicky > wrote:
>> On 24 Apr 2008 01:37:05 GMT, Nick Cramer >
>
>> >FBG 118. Lunch was large, button mushroom caps, stuffed with ground
>> >pork, minced mushroom stems and soy sauce, topped with fried garlic and
>> >FGBP. One hour post prandial 142. Two hour 121.
>> >
>> >Gotta find low carb 'shrooms!
>>
>> Fasting bg when you got up, no breakfast? That wasn't carbs in your
>> mushrooms (they don't have any to speak of), it was liver dump.
>
>No brekkie. Five hours after I got up. Wife chides me for that. ;-(

Well yeah... good for your wife :P

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

frohe wrote:
> Nick Cramer wrote:
>
>>No brekkie. Five hours after I got up. Wife chides me for that. ;-(
>
>
> As she should. My diabetic nurse told me to eat within 45 minutes of
> getting up to keep the liver from pumping out all that glucose. I would
> imagine the same advice would apply to you as well.
>
> -frohe
>
>
I do hope this is covered in Jennifer's book. Hubby gets up around 6ish;
he drinks his coffee. I get up around 7.30-8....which is when hubby
takes his insulin, and cooks his omelet! He has been puzzled recently
because his 2hr pp brekkie has been high..150-18o-! I suspect first,
liver dump, and second caffeine. Of course, this has also been tied up
with stopping Avandia.....and five days in hospital with pancreatitis.

He believes her book...even though that has ben the "bible" I have been
quoting!

Gillian

"Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
...
> "Ozgirl" > wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> > "Nick Cramer" > wrote in message
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> Nick Cramer wrote:
>> >>> > FBG 118. Lunch was large, button mushroom caps, stuffed with ground
>> >>> > pork, minced mushroom stems and soy sauce, topped with fried garlic
>> >>> > and
>> >>> > FGBP. One hour post prandial 142. Two hour 121.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Gotta find low carb 'shrooms!
>> >>>
>> >>> Mushrooms are very low carb; look at the other ingredients, AND,
>> >>> avoid eating carbs if you test 110 or higher just before eating,
>> >>> period.
>> >>>
>> >>> Should help.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks, Susan. The other ingredients are listed. No carbs there. As I
>> >> replied to Julie,
>> >> http://www.carb-counter.org/veg/search/Mushrooms/1100.
>> >>
>> >> Not eating 'til my BG is below 110 sounds like a plan. I'll try it.
>> >> ;-)
>> >
>> > That might work for you, but I could starve to death. Currently I am
>> > seeing a number below 110 about every 4 days. Grrr... And if I DON'T
>> > eat, my BG only goes higher.
>>
>> Half a chook or side of beef would fill you? No? But I'd say missing
>> brekky did the most damage. Do you test between the fasting number and
>> the beginning of lunch?
>
> Thanks, Ozgirl. I like bacon and eggs for brekkie, get it sometimes. Wife
> works, I get up late. The fasting number was at the beginning of lunch.
> ;-/

The minute you are up and active the bg will continue to rise until fed.
It's also quite possible the breakfast din't have enough carbs to switch the
dp off. Who made the mushies? If not you can you ask the wife what else went
into it. There really is nothing in that lot that could make a rise in bg
unless you have progressed very far into diabetes., past the point of diet
working for control.

"Gill Murray" > wrote in message

> He believes her book...even though that has ben the "bible" I have been
> quoting!
>
> Gillian

wrote:
> Nick Cramer wrote:
>
> > Not eating [I meant to say CARBS] 'til my BG is below 110 sounds like a
> > plan. I'll try it. ;-)
> >
> NO, Nick, I didn't say not to EAT, I said not to eat CARBS over 110 at
> any meal. Just protein and fat, maybe some leafy stuff.

Thanks, Susan. I must have been having a senior moment! ;-(

I do like bacon or sausage, a couple of eggs and a slice of fried tomato
for brekkie.

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Nicky > wrote:
> On 24 Apr 2008 08:09:32 GMT, Nick Cramer >
> >Nicky > wrote:
> >> On 24 Apr 2008 01:37:05 GMT, Nick Cramer >
> >
> >> >FBG 118. Lunch was large, button mushroom caps, stuffed with ground
> >> >pork, minced mushroom stems and soy sauce, topped with fried garlic
> >> >and FGBP. One hour post prandial 142. Two hour 121.
> >> >
> >> >Gotta find low carb 'shrooms!
> >>
> >> Fasting bg when you got up, no breakfast? That wasn't carbs in your
> >> mushrooms (they don't have any to speak of), it was liver dump.
> >
> >No brekkie. Five hours after I got up. Wife chides me for that. ;-(
>
> Well yeah... good for your wife :P

Definitely a keeper (in both senses)! ;-D

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"Gill Murray" > wrote in message
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>
>
> frohe wrote:
>> Nick Cramer wrote:
>>
>>>No brekkie. Five hours after I got up. Wife chides me for that. ;-(
>>
>>
>> As she should. My diabetic nurse told me to eat within 45 minutes of
>> getting up to keep the liver from pumping out all that glucose. I would
>> imagine the same advice would apply to you as well.
>>
>> -frohe
> I do hope this is covered in Jennifer's book. Hubby gets up around 6ish;
> he drinks his coffee. I get up around 7.30-8....which is when hubby takes
> his insulin, and cooks his omelet! He has been puzzled recently because
> his 2hr pp brekkie has been high..150-18o-! I suspect first, liver dump,
> and second caffeine. Of course, this has also been tied up with stopping
> Avandia.....and five days in hospital with pancreatitis.
>
> He believes her book...even though that has ben the "bible" I have been
> quoting!

Jennifer has a book?

"frohe" > wrote:
> Nick Cramer wrote:
> > No brekkie. Five hours after I got up. Wife chides me for that. ;-(
>
> As she should. My diabetic nurse told me to eat within 45 minutes of
> getting up to keep the liver from pumping out all that glucose. I would
> imagine the same advice would apply to you as well.

Sounds like a plan, Tex. I'll hafta check that out.

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In article <yUcQj.8345$NK1.3281@trndny05>,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> "Gill Murray" > wrote in message
> news:WE9Qj.15280$pH4.11985@trnddc06...
> >
> >
> > frohe wrote:
> >> Nick Cramer wrote:
> >>
> >>>No brekkie. Five hours after I got up. Wife chides me for that. ;-(
> >>
> >>
> >> As she should. My diabetic nurse told me to eat within 45 minutes of
> >> getting up to keep the liver from pumping out all that glucose. I would
> >> imagine the same advice would apply to you as well.
> >>
> >> -frohe
> > I do hope this is covered in Jennifer's book. Hubby gets up around 6ish;
> > he drinks his coffee. I get up around 7.30-8....which is when hubby takes
> > his insulin, and cooks his omelet! He has been puzzled recently because
> > his 2hr pp brekkie has been high..150-18o-! I suspect first, liver dump,
> > and second caffeine. Of course, this has also been tied up with stopping
> > Avandia.....and five days in hospital with pancreatitis.
> >
> > He believes her book...even though that has ben the "bible" I have been
> > quoting!
>
> Jennifer has a book?

Maybe she means Jenny's book?

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"Alice Faber" > wrote in message
...
> In article <yUcQj.8345$NK1.3281@trndny05>,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> "Gill Murray" > wrote in message
>> news:WE9Qj.15280$pH4.11985@trnddc06...
>> >
>> >
>> > frohe wrote:
>> >> Nick Cramer wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>No brekkie. Five hours after I got up. Wife chides me for that. ;-(
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> As she should. My diabetic nurse told me to eat within 45 minutes of
>> >> getting up to keep the liver from pumping out all that glucose. I
>> >> would
>> >> imagine the same advice would apply to you as well.
>> >>
>> >> -frohe
>> > I do hope this is covered in Jennifer's book. Hubby gets up around
>> > 6ish;
>> > he drinks his coffee. I get up around 7.30-8....which is when hubby
>> > takes
>> > his insulin, and cooks his omelet! He has been puzzled recently
>> > because
>> > his 2hr pp brekkie has been high..150-18o-! I suspect first, liver
>> > dump,
>> > and second caffeine. Of course, this has also been tied up with
>> > stopping
>> > Avandia.....and five days in hospital with pancreatitis.
>> >
>> > He believes her book...even though that has ben the "bible" I have been
>> > quoting!
>>
>> Jennifer has a book?
>
> Maybe she means Jenny's book?

Oh.

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:32:54 GMT, Gill Murray
> wrote:

>I do hope this is covered in Jennifer's book.

Jenny's... I couldn't find it explicitly in a quick flick, although
she alludes to it on p11-12.

She's a very nice lady, you know - you could always email her and ask
her views on what hubby's patterns are doing :P

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
> Gill Murray wrote in message ...
> >Susan wrote:
> >> Julie Bove wrote:
> >> []
> Tell your old english teacher to stuff it, along with the mushrooms.
> ;-)

Jun just got home from work. In a few minutes I'll be stuffing some
mushrooms, stir-fried with fish. Mmmm!

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