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Hey I have a FEW dumb questions. My Mom just the word to cut back her
starches since her blood sugar is getting high. She hasn't been told she's diabetic but I thought someone could answer a few questions. First are dried beans bad? She like to makes lasagna with smashed Pinto beans, ricotta cheese, cheddar cheese and the usual tomotoe sauces.. no meat. But I was looking at the beans in stores in cans ( she likes dried though) and they had carb counts of like 30. What about bread. If she eats a sandwich is that bad? Thanks |
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On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:44:57 -0400, "Karl" > wrote:
>Hey I have a FEW dumb questions. The dumb questions are the ones you don't ask. >First are dried beans bad? She like to makes lasagna with smashed Pinto >beans, ricotta cheese, cheddar cheese and the usual tomotoe sauces.. no >meat. But I was looking at the beans in stores in cans ( she likes dried >though) and they had carb counts of like 30. Dried beans are better than canned - better Glycemic Load. Does she use pasta sheets? Will she test her blood glucose? Each of us react differently to foods, so no-one will be able to say exactly how your Mom will react. For me, I use aubergine or zucchini instead of pasta. Beans sound like a nice addition, I might give them a try... is she vegetarian? Lower carb can be complicated if she is... >What about bread. If she eats a sandwich is that bad? That depends on the bread she uses, how much, and how she reacts... Are you in the US? I like Lavash bread, which I can occasionally buy here in England. Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 |
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![]() "Nicky" > wrote in message ... > On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:44:57 -0400, "Karl" > wrote: > >>Hey I have a FEW dumb questions. > > The dumb questions are the ones you don't ask. > >>First are dried beans bad? She like to makes lasagna with smashed Pinto >>beans, ricotta cheese, cheddar cheese and the usual tomotoe sauces.. no >>meat. But I was looking at the beans in stores in cans ( she likes dried >>though) and they had carb counts of like 30. > > Dried beans are better than canned - better Glycemic Load. Does she > use pasta sheets? Will she test her blood glucose? Each of us react > differently to foods, so no-one will be able to say exactly how your > Mom will react. For me, I use aubergine or zucchini instead of pasta. > Beans sound like a nice addition, I might give them a try... is she > vegetarian? Lower carb can be complicated if she is... She isn't a vegetarian. But she stays away from beef. She isn't going to test her blood the doctor just told to cut back on the starches since she is 74 and her blood sugar was borderline. > >>What about bread. If she eats a sandwich is that bad? > > That depends on the bread she uses, how much, and how she reacts... > Are you in the US? I like Lavash bread, which I can occasionally buy > here in England. > Yeah I am in the US. Actually I make my own bread which she loves. I started making whole wheat bread and she slices it real thin now and she likes it. > Nicky. > T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 |
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Karl > wrote:
: She isn't a vegetarian. But she stays away from beef. She isn't going to : test : her blood the doctor just told to cut back on the starches since she is 74 : and : her blood sugar was borderline. How about chicken and fish? These she might find acceptible. Also, if she is worried about fat, try very lean beef. If she wants, she can buy lean beef and grind i t herself for hamburger so she knows what she is getting. There is also bison in many stores, which is expremely lean, if a bit pricy. personally, I am less worried about the fat thenan the cbs in my diet. but if she is concerned, find lean meats to use in her diet. Wendy |
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![]() "Karl" > wrote in message ... > Hey I have a FEW dumb questions. My Mom just the word to cut back her > starches since her blood sugar is getting high. She hasn't been told > she's diabetic but I thought someone could answer a few questions. > > First are dried beans bad? She like to makes lasagna with smashed Pinto > beans, ricotta cheese, cheddar cheese and the usual tomotoe sauces.. no > meat. But I was looking at the beans in stores in cans ( she likes dried > though) and they had carb counts of like 30. > > What about bread. If she eats a sandwich is that bad? What's bad is the advice she was given. Not that it's bad to cut back on carbs, but because it is so vague. She needs to know why she was told that. Does she have diabetes? Prediabates? She needs to know the reason, be given the appropriate testing and follow-up and use a meter to test her own blood sugar at home. Until she tests herself she will not know what is "bad" for her or not. Every body is different. I find potatoes and beans work well for me. So does some bread. But what works for me might not work for someone else. And in fact it usually doesn't. It's also carbs she needs to cut back on. Not just starches. There are carbs in milk, fruit, juice and other foods. Vegetables contain carbs but in a lesser amount, unless they are starchy. |
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![]() Julie Bove wrote in message ...speaking of doctors telling someone to cut back on starches >What's bad is the advice she was given. Not that it's bad to cut back on >carbs, but because it is so vague. She needs to know why she was told that. >Does she have diabetes? Prediabates? She needs to know the reason, be given >the appropriate testing and follow-up and use a meter to test her own blood >sugar at home. Until she tests herself she will not know what is "bad" for >her or not. You said what I was getting ready to say. Surely they gave her a reason for cutting back on starches, and if the reason was diabetes or prediabetes, they should be advising her to test. Cheri |
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![]() "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message ... > > Julie Bove wrote in message ...speaking of doctors telling someone to > cut back on starches > >>What's bad is the advice she was given. Not that it's bad to cut > back on >>carbs, but because it is so vague. She needs to know why she was > told that. >>Does she have diabetes? Prediabates? She needs to know the reason, > be given >>the appropriate testing and follow-up and use a meter to test her own > blood >>sugar at home. Until she tests herself she will not know what is > "bad" for >>her or not. > > > You said what I was getting ready to say. Surely they gave her a > reason for cutting back on starches, and if the reason was diabetes or > prediabetes, they should be advising her to test. > > Cheri > > I have her bring it up when she goes talks to her doctor. |
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![]() "Karl" > wrote in message ... > > "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message > ... >> >> Julie Bove wrote in message ...speaking of doctors telling someone to >> cut back on starches >> >>>What's bad is the advice she was given. Not that it's bad to cut >> back on >>>carbs, but because it is so vague. She needs to know why she was >> told that. >>>Does she have diabetes? Prediabates? She needs to know the reason, >> be given >>>the appropriate testing and follow-up and use a meter to test her own >> blood >>>sugar at home. Until she tests herself she will not know what is >> "bad" for >>>her or not. >> >> >> You said what I was getting ready to say. Surely they gave her a >> reason for cutting back on starches, and if the reason was diabetes or >> prediabetes, they should be advising her to test. >> >> Cheri >> >> > I have her bring it up when she goes talks to her doctor. She needs to bring it up right away and not wait. If she has diabetes, there is the potential for her to have a hypo and this could be dangerous. She needs to have a way to monitor herself. |
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![]() "Julie Bove" > wrote in message news:KP2Pj.500$NK1.449@trndny05... > > "Karl" > wrote in message ... >> >> "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message >> ... >>> >>> Julie Bove wrote in message ...speaking of doctors telling someone to >>> cut back on starches >>> >>>>What's bad is the advice she was given. Not that it's bad to cut >>> back on >>>>carbs, but because it is so vague. She needs to know why she was >>> told that. >>>>Does she have diabetes? Prediabates? She needs to know the reason, >>> be given >>>>the appropriate testing and follow-up and use a meter to test her own >>> blood >>>>sugar at home. Until she tests herself she will not know what is >>> "bad" for >>>>her or not. >>> >>> >>> You said what I was getting ready to say. Surely they gave her a >>> reason for cutting back on starches, and if the reason was diabetes or >>> prediabetes, they should be advising her to test. >>> >>> Cheri >>> >>> >> I have her bring it up when she goes talks to her doctor. > > She needs to bring it up right away and not wait. If she has diabetes, > there is the potential for her to have a hypo and this could be dangerous. > She needs to have a way to monitor herself. She hasn't been diagnosed with diabetes. I have been talking to her more and what the doctor said was she's getting older and to cut back on the starches. I think I might be overreacting a bit myself. He said her tests for sugar that were combined in routine batteries of blood work they do periodically showed the levels were moving higher. Maybe I just worry too much? |
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![]() "Julie Bove" > wrote in message news:CaPOj.2769$y63.800@trndny02... > > "Karl" > wrote in message ... >> Hey I have a FEW dumb questions. My Mom just the word to cut back her >> starches since her blood sugar is getting high. She hasn't been told >> she's diabetic but I thought someone could answer a few questions. >> >> First are dried beans bad? She like to makes lasagna with smashed Pinto >> beans, ricotta cheese, cheddar cheese and the usual tomotoe sauces.. no >> meat. But I was looking at the beans in stores in cans ( she likes dried >> though) and they had carb counts of like 30. >> >> What about bread. If she eats a sandwich is that bad? > > What's bad is the advice she was given. Not that it's bad to cut back on > carbs, but because it is so vague. She needs to know why she was told > that. Does she have diabetes? Prediabates? She needs to know the reason, > be given the appropriate testing and follow-up and use a meter to test her > own blood sugar at home. Until she tests herself she will not know what > is "bad" for her or not. > > Every body is different. I find potatoes and beans work well for me. So > does some bread. But what works for me might not work for someone else. > And in fact it usually doesn't. It's also carbs she needs to cut back on. > Not just starches. There are carbs in milk, fruit, juice and other foods. > Vegetables contain carbs but in a lesser amount, unless they are starchy. > She just went to the doctor and he said her blood sugar was getting higher. She's 74 and he just told her to cut back on the starches. I guess she should ask her doctor if she shouold start testing herself. |
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![]() "Karl" > wrote in message ... > > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message > news:CaPOj.2769$y63.800@trndny02... >> >> "Karl" > wrote in message ... >>> Hey I have a FEW dumb questions. My Mom just the word to cut back her >>> starches since her blood sugar is getting high. She hasn't been told >>> she's diabetic but I thought someone could answer a few questions. >>> >>> First are dried beans bad? She like to makes lasagna with smashed Pinto >>> beans, ricotta cheese, cheddar cheese and the usual tomotoe sauces.. no >>> meat. But I was looking at the beans in stores in cans ( she likes >>> dried though) and they had carb counts of like 30. >>> >>> What about bread. If she eats a sandwich is that bad? >> >> What's bad is the advice she was given. Not that it's bad to cut back on >> carbs, but because it is so vague. She needs to know why she was told >> that. Does she have diabetes? Prediabates? She needs to know the reason, >> be given the appropriate testing and follow-up and use a meter to test >> her own blood sugar at home. Until she tests herself she will not know >> what is "bad" for her or not. >> >> Every body is different. I find potatoes and beans work well for me. So >> does some bread. But what works for me might not work for someone else. >> And in fact it usually doesn't. It's also carbs she needs to cut back >> on. Not just starches. There are carbs in milk, fruit, juice and other >> foods. Vegetables contain carbs but in a lesser amount, unless they are >> starchy. >> > > She just went to the doctor and he said her blood sugar was getting > higher. She's 74 and he just told her to > cut back on the starches. > > I guess she should ask her doctor if she shouold start testing herself. Sounds like the Dr. is treating her like she is an idiot senior citizen who most likely wouldn't be compliant if he did tell her to test her blood. Unfortunately this is very common. |
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Karl > wrote:
: She just went to the doctor and he said her blood sugar was getting higher. : She's 74 and he just told her to : cut back on the starches. : I guess she should ask her doctor if she shouold start testing herself. karl, I am 72 and proactive with my diabees. Sometimes doctors don't wat to worry older people or think they are too old, simple, etc. to make a proactive change in her life. I don't know if this is the case with you mother, but it is something to be aware of. Don't let her be talked down to. In tis ay and age she has a good chance of living happily for many years and she needn't develpop full blown diabetes if she is able to lower her blood ugar with diet adn exercise now. A meter will halp her adn even if the doctor doesn't want to worry her with all that testing, get one like tthe Walmart one which is cheaper if she doesn't get it from her insurance. Wendy |
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![]() "W. Baker" > wrote in message ... > Karl > wrote: > > : She just went to the doctor and he said her blood sugar was getting > higher. > : She's 74 and he just told her to > : cut back on the starches. > > : I guess she should ask her doctor if she shouold start testing herself. > > karl, I am 72 and proactive with my diabees. Sometimes doctors don't wat > to worry older people or think they are too old, simple, etc. to make a > proactive change in her life. I don't know if this is the case with you > mother, but it is something to be aware of. Don't let her be talked down > to. In tis ay and age she has a good chance of living happily for many > years and she needn't develpop full blown diabetes if she is able to lower > her blood ugar with diet adn exercise now. A meter will halp her adn even > if the doctor doesn't want to worry her with all that testing, get one > like tthe Walmart one which is cheaper if she doesn't get it from her > insurance. > > Wendy > I agree with you about the diet and exercise. Now trying to chase her around her house to test her blood... that's the tough part! My Mum is stubborn. |
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Karl > wrote:
: "W. Baker" > wrote in message : ... : > Karl > wrote: : > : > : She just went to the doctor and he said her blood sugar was getting : > higher. : > : She's 74 and he just told her to : > : cut back on the starches. : > : > : I guess she should ask her doctor if she shouold start testing herself. : > : > karl, I am 72 and proactive with my diabees. Sometimes doctors don't wat : > to worry older people or think they are too old, simple, etc. to make a : > proactive change in her life. I don't know if this is the case with you : > mother, but it is something to be aware of. Don't let her be talked down : > to. In tis ay and age she has a good chance of living happily for many : > years and she needn't develpop full blown diabetes if she is able to lower : > her blood ugar with diet adn exercise now. A meter will halp her adn even : > if the doctor doesn't want to worry her with all that testing, get one : > like tthe Walmart one which is cheaper if she doesn't get it from her : > insurance. : > : > Wendy : > : I agree with you about the diet and exercise. Now trying to chase her : around her house to test her : blood... that's the tough part! My Mum is stubborn. OK, then you have to work to get it into her head that THIS(testing) is the way she cab continue to enjoy her life for a long time. any grandkisd? doesn't she want to see them "grow -up< get married, graduatle, give her great-grandkids, etc. Let her know that kowning her blood sugar numbers adn working to do something about them will keep he, if not young, at least going appily for quite a while yet. Tell her a 72 year old Grandma told you all this:-) It really shuld become her effort so she owns it and will want to follow p with teting, decent eating, exercise, etc. Don't you talk down to her either!!!! Wendy-If you notice my lousy typing, I have only one focusing eye and tht is not in great condition either, but NOT related to the diabetes!!! |
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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:59:00 -0400, "Karl"
> wrote: > >"W. Baker" > wrote in message ... >> Karl > wrote: >> >> : She just went to the doctor and he said her blood sugar was getting >> higher. >> : She's 74 and he just told her to >> : cut back on the starches. >> >> : I guess she should ask her doctor if she shouold start testing herself. >> >> karl, I am 72 and proactive with my diabees. Sometimes doctors don't wat >> to worry older people or think they are too old, simple, etc. to make a >> proactive change in her life. I don't know if this is the case with you >> mother, but it is something to be aware of. Don't let her be talked down >> to. In tis ay and age she has a good chance of living happily for many >> years and she needn't develpop full blown diabetes if she is able to lower >> her blood ugar with diet adn exercise now. A meter will halp her adn even >> if the doctor doesn't want to worry her with all that testing, get one >> like tthe Walmart one which is cheaper if she doesn't get it from her >> insurance. >> >> Wendy >> > >I agree with you about the diet and exercise. Now trying to chase her >around her house to test her >blood... that's the tough part! My Mum is stubborn. > > If she isn't prepared to test or at least make changes, you can't force her. Can you get her to read some of the answers you have received? Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:Valderee, Valderah. Or, I love To Go A-wandering... |
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