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Old 10-06-2011, 02:49 AM posted to rec.food.equipment
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On Thursday, June 9, 2011 1:28:47 PM UTC-4, Kent wrote:
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On Sunday, June 5, 2011 7:04:08 PM UTC-4, Kent wrote:

In addition to whatever you pay for the water bath component you have to
have a vacuum sealer for about $150. Each time you cook you have to use a
bag costing about $.60.


Not at all ......

You can use the big vacuum 'FoodSaver' type equipment -- some are expensive
[I have one for which I paid about $85], but some other brands only cost as
little as $20 [check the Internet - I just did.]

Even FoodSaver has a rechargeable hand vacuum pump that you can use with
it's bags with the built in valve that is currently being touted by QVC
(K29727) that is $30. [I have one and use it for this purpose.]

Vacuum Sealers are often available at yard sales as people upgrade their
units to newer models and sell there own. You can pick up an old Tilia or a
Daisy Seal-A-Meal for pennies that can be used for preparing the Sous Vide
bags.

You can get the new Vacuum Bags with the 'zip' closing and the built in air
valve

Examples:

===Ziploc (SC Johnson) Vacuum Bags -
http://www.ziploc.com/Products/Pages...me=Starter_Kit

===FoodSaver Vacuum Bags -
http://www.foodsaver.com/Category.aspx?id=c&cid=1185

===Reynolds Handi-Vac Bags -
http://www.reynoldspkg.com/reynoldsk...ac/en/home.asp

===Debbi Meyers/Reynolds at HSN -
http://kitchen-dining.hsn.com/debbie...ining-_-957814

These bags are REUSABLE. REUSABLE.

With these you can use either the larger machines, the small hand held
machines or you can get a $2.50 hand pump sold by Ziploc (SC Johnson) in the
grocery store that does an excellent job.

You can ALSO use regular Ziploc or Glad bags driving out the air by using
the easy Water Pressure Trick.

From the Internet: "...we vacuum seal the easy and frugal way. Place
contents in a Ziploc bag and immerse in a sink full of water, keeping opened
end of bag just above the water line. The pressure of the water against the
outside of the bag will force out all the air in it. And, voila, it's done.
Zip shut and you're good to go!"

This is a pretty good approximation to a bag who's air was extracted by a
vacuum machine -- for the purpose of home experimental Sous Vide cooking.

I happen to have a number of types of vacuum devices. A regular FoodSaver
device (mainly use for long term freezer storage with roll bags), the
aforementioned rechargeable hand vacuum device which I mainly use with the
vacuum bags and vacuum containers, an electric vacuum device also made by
FoodSaver initially for vacuuming wine bottles to maintain freshness -- but
it works great with the vacuum bags using an adapter and also for the
FoodSaver vacuum containers. I also have the Reynolds battery hand vacuum
device that works with bags. In addition I have two types of cheap hand
operated 'pump' air extractors -- the Ziplock and a brand that I don't
recall for use with bags.

In the past, I have owned a Tilia (Italian -- the forerunner to the
FoodSaver line) vacuum device and a Daisy Seal-A-Meal. I have been using
vacuum sealing devices for a long time.

A person getting started with Sous Vide can experiment for only pennies (a
simple Ziploc bag, evacuating the air with the above water pressure method)
and a beer cooler warm water bath. It is important to find, on the Internet,
the appropriate temperature for the water bath for the food you are going to
cook (it varies according what you are cooking and the degree of doneness
desired) and the MINIMUM time needed for the immersion in the bath (Maximum
time is not important as you will not overcook the food.)

Gary Hayman
Maryland
http://bit.ly/GarysInfo


Thanks very much for the info Gary. I'm going to William Sonoma today and
I'll report back. I'm sure what you've found is much less expensive. Where
did you get your BB and B coupon?

I've been interested in using a Ziploc bag to seal beef, sirloin and eye of
round. I'd put a small amount of brine[mild] into the bag first, then add
the steak, and then suck the air out[with clean mouth or with the manual
pump Vie seen from Ziploc. This would give you a bag with no air between the
bath and meat at a reasonable price. That, then would go into the low temp.
bath. I spoke with Ziploc and they said the polyethylene wouldn't bread down
until the water temp. was in the 225F range, which of course you'd never
near.

Kent


I get at least one or two a week in the mail. One directly from BBB and one as a coupon in a magazine type weekly publication. I don't believe that the coupons are good for BBB mail order -- only in the store and I haven't checked to see if they are carrying them in the stores as yet. It's a little trip for me.

I use ZipLock and other types of vacuume bags for my pseudo Sous Vide at home. I am still highly interested in obtaining a home model.

I did another piece of roast the other day and it came out pink from edge to edge -- perfect. I have both an electric and a hand pump to void the bags of air. I also have a FoodSaver.


Gary

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