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On Thursday, June 9, 2011 1:28:47 PM UTC-4, Kent wrote:
> "zydecogary" > wrote in message > ... > On Sunday, June 5, 2011 7:04:08 PM UTC-4, Kent wrote: > > > In addition to whatever you pay for the water bath component you have to > > have a vacuum sealer for about $150. Each time you cook you have to use a > > bag costing about $.60. > > Not at all ...... > > You can use the big vacuum 'FoodSaver' type equipment -- some are expensive > [I have one for which I paid about $85], but some other brands only cost as > little as $20 [check the Internet - I just did.] > > Even FoodSaver has a rechargeable hand vacuum pump that you can use with > it's bags with the built in valve that is currently being touted by QVC > (K29727) that is $30. [I have one and use it for this purpose.] > > Vacuum Sealers are often available at yard sales as people upgrade their > units to newer models and sell there own. You can pick up an old Tilia or a > Daisy Seal-A-Meal for pennies that can be used for preparing the Sous Vide > bags. > > You can get the new Vacuum Bags with the 'zip' closing and the built in air > valve > > Examples: > > ===Ziploc (SC Johnson) Vacuum Bags - > http://www.ziploc.com/Products/Pages...me=Starter_Kit > > ===FoodSaver Vacuum Bags - > http://www.foodsaver.com/Category.aspx?id=c&cid=1185 > > ===Reynolds Handi-Vac Bags - > http://www.reynoldspkg.com/reynoldsk...ac/en/home.asp > > ===Debbi Meyers/Reynolds at HSN - > http://kitchen-dining.hsn.com/debbie...ining-_-957814 > > These bags are REUSABLE. REUSABLE. > > With these you can use either the larger machines, the small hand held > machines or you can get a $2.50 hand pump sold by Ziploc (SC Johnson) in the > grocery store that does an excellent job. > > You can ALSO use regular Ziploc or Glad bags driving out the air by using > the easy Water Pressure Trick. > > From the Internet: "...we vacuum seal the easy and frugal way. Place > contents in a Ziploc bag and immerse in a sink full of water, keeping opened > end of bag just above the water line. The pressure of the water against the > outside of the bag will force out all the air in it. And, voila, it's done. > Zip shut and you're good to go!" > > This is a pretty good approximation to a bag who's air was extracted by a > vacuum machine -- for the purpose of home experimental Sous Vide cooking. > > I happen to have a number of types of vacuum devices. A regular FoodSaver > device (mainly use for long term freezer storage with roll bags), the > aforementioned rechargeable hand vacuum device which I mainly use with the > vacuum bags and vacuum containers, an electric vacuum device also made by > FoodSaver initially for vacuuming wine bottles to maintain freshness -- but > it works great with the vacuum bags using an adapter and also for the > FoodSaver vacuum containers. I also have the Reynolds battery hand vacuum > device that works with bags. In addition I have two types of cheap hand > operated 'pump' air extractors -- the Ziplock and a brand that I don't > recall for use with bags. > > In the past, I have owned a Tilia (Italian -- the forerunner to the > FoodSaver line) vacuum device and a Daisy Seal-A-Meal. I have been using > vacuum sealing devices for a long time. > > A person getting started with Sous Vide can experiment for only pennies (a > simple Ziploc bag, evacuating the air with the above water pressure method) > and a beer cooler warm water bath. It is important to find, on the Internet, > the appropriate temperature for the water bath for the food you are going to > cook (it varies according what you are cooking and the degree of doneness > desired) and the MINIMUM time needed for the immersion in the bath (Maximum > time is not important as you will not overcook the food.) > > Gary Hayman > Maryland > http://bit.ly/GarysInfo > > > > > Thanks very much for the info Gary. I'm going to William Sonoma today and > I'll report back. I'm sure what you've found is much less expensive. Where > did you get your BB and B coupon? > > I've been interested in using a Ziploc bag to seal beef, sirloin and eye of > round. I'd put a small amount of brine[mild] into the bag first, then add > the steak, and then suck the air out[with clean mouth or with the manual > pump Vie seen from Ziploc. This would give you a bag with no air between the > bath and meat at a reasonable price. That, then would go into the low temp. > bath. I spoke with Ziploc and they said the polyethylene wouldn't bread down > until the water temp. was in the 225F range, which of course you'd never > near. > > Kent I get at least one or two a week in the mail. One directly from BBB and one as a coupon in a magazine type weekly publication. I don't believe that the coupons are good for BBB mail order -- only in the store and I haven't checked to see if they are carrying them in the stores as yet. It's a little trip for me. I use ZipLock and other types of vacuume bags for my pseudo Sous Vide at home. I am still highly interested in obtaining a home model. I did another piece of roast the other day and it came out pink from edge to edge -- perfect. I have both an electric and a hand pump to void the bags of air. I also have a FoodSaver. Gary |
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