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tomkanpa
 
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Default SHOCKING NEWS FOR BEER DRINKERS


This item just has to warm the cockles of Jonathan Newman's heart.

Newman is chairman of the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board and a
connoisseur of fine wine. He's been trying to get Pennsylvanians to buy
more wine -- better vintages, some at higher prices -- from state-owned
liquor stores. He's taken the lead at stocking fancy red and white
wines from California on state store shelves.

So he was cheered this week by news that, for the first time since
Gallup began tracking American beverage preferences in 1992, wine has
surpassed beer as America's alcoholic drink of choice.

In a July poll, 39 percent of people said they preferred wine, while 36
percent liked beer better and 21 percent chose liquor.

As recently as 2000, beer topped win by a 43 to 31 percent margin. In
2004 beer won by a 39 to 33 margin.

"We're seeing more customers with a genuine curiosity and eagerness to
try new things," said Newman. "The preconceptions of wine as a 'fancy'
beverage are being broken down. People are beginning to recognize wine
as something they can enjoy in many of the same situations where they
once enjoyed beer."

Oh yeah? Try telling that to thirsty fans at a Steelers game.

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Lew Bryson
 
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"tomkanpa" > wrote in message
> This item just has to warm the cockles of Jonathan Newman's heart.


<Seinfeld>...Newman...</Seinfeld>

> Newman is chairman of the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board and a
> connoisseur of fine wine. He's been trying to get Pennsylvanians to buy
> more wine -- better vintages, some at higher prices -- from state-owned
> liquor stores. He's taken the lead at stocking fancy red and white
> wines from California on state store shelves.


And, from what I hear, taking trips to California and getting stroked by
wine makers.

> So he was cheered this week by news that, for the first time since
> Gallup began tracking American beverage preferences in 1992, wine has
> surpassed beer as America's alcoholic drink of choice.
>
> In a July poll, 39 percent of people said they preferred wine, while 36
> percent liked beer better and 21 percent chose liquor.


Even though beer continues to outsell both, in volume and in dollars spent.
Conclusions? Americans are liars.

> As recently as 2000, beer topped win by a 43 to 31 percent margin. In
> 2004 beer won by a 39 to 33 margin.
>
> "We're seeing more customers with a genuine curiosity and eagerness to
> try new things," said Newman. "The preconceptions of wine as a 'fancy'
> beverage are being broken down. People are beginning to recognize wine
> as something they can enjoy in many of the same situations where they
> once enjoyed beer."


Luckily, I'm starting to see people beginning to recognize beer as something
they can enjoy in many of the same situations where they once enjoyed wine.
The preconceptions of beer as a "lowbrow" beverage are being broken down.

> Oh yeah? Try telling that to thirsty fans at a Steelers game.


Word.

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that's no SHITE." -- Bob Skilnik, 1/31/02

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>> "We're seeing more customers with a genuine curiosity and eagerness to
>> try new things," said Newman. "The preconceptions of wine as a 'fancy'
>> beverage are being broken down. People are beginning to recognize wine
>> as something they can enjoy in many of the same situations where they
>> once enjoyed beer."

>
>Luckily, I'm starting to see people beginning to recognize beer as something
>they can enjoy in many of the same situations where they once enjoyed wine.
>The preconceptions of beer as a "lowbrow" beverage are being broken down.
>

Hey, I enjoy both and make both. Is that OK, or is it unAmerican?

vince norris
(Heck, I've even been known to take a sip of Irish, Scotch, or
Bourbon, now and then.)
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"vincent p. norris" > wrote in message
>>> "We're seeing more customers with a genuine curiosity and eagerness to
>>> try new things," said Newman. "The preconceptions of wine as a 'fancy'
>>> beverage are being broken down. People are beginning to recognize wine
>>> as something they can enjoy in many of the same situations where they
>>> once enjoyed beer."

>>
>>Luckily, I'm starting to see people beginning to recognize beer as
>>something
>>they can enjoy in many of the same situations where they once enjoyed
>>wine.
>>The preconceptions of beer as a "lowbrow" beverage are being broken down.
>>

> Hey, I enjoy both and make both. Is that OK, or is it unAmerican?


Completely OK with me, which is kind of my point.

> vince norris
> (Heck, I've even been known to take a sip of Irish, Scotch, or
> Bourbon, now and then.)


Me too.

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"As for talking shit in this NG, Lew, you're the undisputed king, and
that's no SHITE." -- Bob Skilnik, 1/31/02

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> "As for talking shit in this NG, Lew, you're the undisputed king, and
> that's no SHITE." -- Bob Skilnik, 1/31/02


Still using this as a sig? Ya need some new material.

The Complete History of Beer & Brewing in Chicago
Barricade Books, Spring '06




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"Moo" > wrote in message news:McWdna2XWsV4wrreRVn-
>> "As for talking shit in this NG, Lew, you're the undisputed king, and
>> that's no SHITE." -- Bob Skilnik, 1/31/02

>
> Still using this as a sig? Ya need some new material.
>
> The Complete History of Beer & Brewing in Chicago
> Barricade Books, Spring '06


Still using this as a topic? You need to stretch.


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I always wonder about an improvement in beer packaging. Beer even the micros
are sold in 12oz bottles in a six pack. If they could package upscale beer
in quart or liter containers then a person having it for supper might feel
as if the beer has the same status as wine. Six-pack has the beer gut
connotation, and a 12 oz bottle just not seem as "sexy" as a liter bottle
that people can share.

Tom


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Tom or Mary > wrote:
>I always wonder about an improvement in beer packaging. Beer even the micros
>are sold in 12oz bottles in a six pack. If they could package upscale beer
>in quart or liter containers then a person having it for supper might feel
>as if the beer has the same status as wine. Six-pack has the beer gut
>connotation, and a 12 oz bottle just not seem as "sexy" as a liter bottle
>that people can share.


That's a great idea! I'm going to suggest to all kinds
of craft breweries-- in the US and places like Belgium--
that they package beer in bottles that are like 22 ounces,
or in the case of Europeans 750ml bottles just like they
do for wine. Heck, I might even extend your idea to using
corks!
--
Joel Plutchak "It must be legal, the police are here taking
plutchak at [...] stuff, too." - A New Orleans looter, 30-Aug-2005
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"Joel" > wrote in message
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> Tom or Mary > wrote:
>>I always wonder about an improvement in beer packaging. Beer even the
>>micros
>>are sold in 12oz bottles in a six pack. If they could package upscale
>>beer
>>in quart or liter containers then a person having it for supper might feel
>>as if the beer has the same status as wine. Six-pack has the beer gut
>>connotation, and a 12 oz bottle just not seem as "sexy" as a liter bottle
>>that people can share.

>
> That's a great idea! I'm going to suggest to all kinds
> of craft breweries-- in the US and places like Belgium--
> that they package beer in bottles that are like 22 ounces,
> or in the case of Europeans 750ml bottles just like they
> do for wine. Heck, I might even extend your idea to using
> corks!
> --
> Joel Plutchak "It must be legal, the police are here taking
> plutchak at [...] stuff, too." - A New Orleans looter, 30-Aug-2005


Brewery Ommegang in Cooperstown, NY already packages it's fine beer in 750ml
bottles - http://www.breweryommegang.com


Tom


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Joel > wrote:
: Tom or Mary > wrote:
:>I always wonder about an improvement in beer packaging. Beer even the micros
:>are sold in 12oz bottles in a six pack. If they could package upscale beer
:>in quart or liter containers then a person having it for supper might feel
:>as if the beer has the same status as wine. Six-pack has the beer gut
:>connotation, and a 12 oz bottle just not seem as "sexy" as a liter bottle
:>that people can share.
:
: That's a great idea! I'm going to suggest to all kinds
: of craft breweries-- in the US and places like Belgium--
: that they package beer in bottles that are like 22 ounces,
: or in the case of Europeans 750ml bottles just like they
: do for wine. Heck, I might even extend your idea to using
: corks!

I think, though, that we need something to make sure that the
"beeriness" of the product inside -- how about a cork _AND a cap on a
slope shouldered champagne type bottle. Now, all we need to do is find
a brewery in some far flung, sexy sounding place like Payottenland and
we'll have ourselves a winner.

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Joel wrote:
> Tom or Mary > wrote:
>
>>I always wonder about an improvement in beer packaging. Beer even the micros
>>are sold in 12oz bottles in a six pack. If they could package upscale beer
>>in quart or liter containers then a person having it for supper might feel
>>as if the beer has the same status as wine. Six-pack has the beer gut
>>connotation, and a 12 oz bottle just not seem as "sexy" as a liter bottle
>>that people can share.

>
>
> That's a great idea! I'm going to suggest to all kinds
> of craft breweries-- in the US and places like Belgium--
> that they package beer in bottles that are like 22 ounces,
> or in the case of Europeans 750ml bottles just like they
> do for wine. Heck, I might even extend your idea to using
> corks!


DAMN! You're good! You must be somebody special 'cause I just went to
the store and they're already following your advice!

Altho' I sorta do like the 12 oz. bottle BUT often in beer stores, the
beer cooler is way in the back and the register is way in the front, and
I can only carry maybe 4 or 5 bottles at a time (I tried putting a few
under my arm, but one slipped and fell on the floor and I had to buy it
'cause the Indian guy had a "You break it, you bought it" sign under the
"NO CREDIT" one. I did save the soaked paper towels, tho', so I can say
that Samual Adams UTOPIA tastes like, well, like floor wax and dog shit!).

If only they'd invent some sort of, I don't know, like a basket or
holder to put 5 or 6 bottles in at a time.

Also, I've been using a scratch awl and hammer to poke a hole in the
metal beer cap to get the beer out. Even with two holes, the beer gets
very foamy. And, occassionally I miss and hit my hand or break a
bottle. Why don't they invent some sort of a tool to take the cap right
off?

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>If they could package upscale beer in quart........

I remember buying beer in quart bottles way back in 1951 or '52.

Perhaps you weren't around then. ((:-))

vince norris
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