Hi!

I am looking for a new BBQ and am not sure what to buy. My budget is
about $500 +/- $100 (cdn). I usually grill for about 4 people and
sometimes more.

I have looked at several but not sure what to do. I looked at all
stainless steel bbqs though expensive can turn yellow after a few
years. They are a little harder to clean as well.

I was looking at an alluminium one as well. They do not rust till the
coating peels off.

In your opinion which is the best grill to buy for 5-600 range?

Thanks for your help,

Shavak

> I am looking for a new BBQ and am not sure what to buy. My budget is
> about $500 +/- $100 (cdn). I usually grill for about 4 people and
> sometimes more.
>
> I have looked at several but not sure what to do. I looked at all
> stainless steel bbqs though expensive can turn yellow after a few
> years. They are a little harder to clean as well.
>
> I was looking at an alluminium one as well. They do not rust till the
> coating peels off.
>
> In your opinion which is the best grill to buy for 5-600 range?
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Shavak

Hard to go wrong with a Weber. Vermont Castings is also a good choice, but
some models are apparently made offshore and have been reported to suffer in
quality.

Larry T

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Hi!
>
> I am looking for a new BBQ and am not sure what to buy. My budget is
> about $500 +/- $100 (cdn). I usually grill for about 4 people and
> sometimes more.
>
> I have looked at several but not sure what to do. I looked at all
> stainless steel bbqs though expensive can turn yellow after a few
> years. They are a little harder to clean as well.
>
> I was looking at an alluminium one as well. They do not rust till the
> coating peels off.
>
> In your opinion which is the best grill to buy for 5-600 range?
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Shavak
>

Your post suggests you are looking for a gas grill. The Weber Silver Genesis
B should probably be your choice in that price range, as many on this NG
will agree. The lesser expensive Chinese SS grills may be OK, but they may
not, and you have no way of knowing that in advance.
Good luck with your quest.
Kent

Kent wrote:
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>I am looking for a new BBQ and am not sure what to buy. My budget is
>>about $500 +/- $100 (cdn). I usually grill for about 4 people and
>>sometimes more.
>>
>>I have looked at several but not sure what to do. I looked at all
>>stainless steel bbqs though expensive can turn yellow after a few
>>years. They are a little harder to clean as well.
>>
>>I was looking at an alluminium one as well. They do not rust till the
>>coating peels off.
>>
>>In your opinion which is the best grill to buy for 5-600 range?
>>
>>Thanks for your help,
>>
>>Shavak
>>
>
>
> Your post suggests you are looking for a gas grill. The Weber Silver Genesis
> B should probably be your choice in that price range, as many on this NG
> will agree. The lesser expensive Chinese SS grills may be OK, but they may
> not, and you have no way of knowing that in advance.
> Good luck with your quest.
> Kent
>
>

ok, I created a url for the posts *only* in afb dedicated to
gassers. I have it logged for future questions. Just putting
it out there in case anyone else would care to use it in the
future.

http://tinyurl.com/ovaej

--
Steve

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:38:47 -0400, Steve Calvin
> wrote:

>Kent wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>I am looking for a new BBQ and am not sure what to buy. My budget is
>>>about $500 +/- $100 (cdn). I usually grill for about 4 people and
>>>sometimes more.
>>>
>>>I have looked at several but not sure what to do. I looked at all
>>>stainless steel bbqs though expensive can turn yellow after a few
>>>years. They are a little harder to clean as well.
>>>
>>>I was looking at an alluminium one as well. They do not rust till the
>>>coating peels off.
>>>
>>>In your opinion which is the best grill to buy for 5-600 range?
>>>
>>>Thanks for your help,
>>>
>>>Shavak
>>>
>>
>>
>> Your post suggests you are looking for a gas grill. The Weber Silver Genesis
>> B should probably be your choice in that price range, as many on this NG
>> will agree. The lesser expensive Chinese SS grills may be OK, but they may
>> not, and you have no way of knowing that in advance.
>> Good luck with your quest.
>> Kent
>>
>>
>
>ok, I created a url for the posts *only* in afb dedicated to
>gassers. I have it logged for future questions. Just putting
>it out there in case anyone else would care to use it in the
>future.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/ovaej

You got one for discussion about the weather? That would come in
handy, too.

Hello Steve,

> Kent wrote:
>
>> > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I am looking for a new BBQ and am not sure what to buy. My budget
>>> is about $500 +/- $100 (cdn). I usually grill for about 4 people
>>> and sometimes more.
>>>
>>> I have looked at several but not sure what to do. I looked at all
>>> stainless steel bbqs though expensive can turn yellow after a few
>>> years. They are a little harder to clean as well.
>>>
>>> I was looking at an alluminium one as well. They do not rust till
>>> the coating peels off.
>>>
>>> In your opinion which is the best grill to buy for 5-600 range?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>
>>> Shavak
>>>
>> Your post suggests you are looking for a gas grill. The Weber Silver
>> Genesis
>> B should probably be your choice in that price range, as many on this
>> NG
>> will agree. The lesser expensive Chinese SS grills may be OK, but
>> they may
>> not, and you have no way of knowing that in advance.
>> Good luck with your quest.
>> Kent
> ok, I created a url for the posts *only* in afb dedicated to gassers.
> I have it logged for future questions. Just putting it out there in
> case anyone else would care to use it in the future.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ovaej
>

Smart. Once you're redirected, append " insubject:recommendation" to the
search expression to fine-tune your results.

Hal Burton wrote:

>> ok, I created a url for the posts *only* in afb dedicated to gassers.
>> I have it logged for future questions. Just putting it out there in
>> case anyone else would care to use it in the future.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ovaej
>>
>
> Smart. Once you're redirected, append " insubject:recommendation" to the
> search expression to fine-tune your results.
>
>
Excellent idea. How about going ahead and doin' that and
then just cutting the url into http://tinyurl.com and post
the shorter link back.

I'd do it but I've been goin' for about 16 hours now and
need some quality time with my mattress. ;-)

--
Steve

Hello Steve,

> Hal Burton wrote:
>
>>> ok, I created a url for the posts *only* in afb dedicated to
>>> gassers. I have it logged for future questions. Just putting it out
>>> there in case anyone else would care to use it in the future.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/ovaej
>>>
>> Smart. Once you're redirected, append " insubject:recommendation" to
>> the search expression to fine-tune your results.
>>
> Excellent idea. How about going ahead and doin' that and then just
> cutting the url into http://tinyurl.com and post the shorter link
> back.

Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/qevut

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:42:42 GMT, "LT" >
wrote:

>
>> I am looking for a new BBQ and am not sure what to buy. My budget is
>> about $500 +/- $100 (cdn). I usually grill for about 4 people and
>> sometimes more.
>>
>> I have looked at several but not sure what to do. I looked at all
>> stainless steel bbqs though expensive can turn yellow after a few
>> years. They are a little harder to clean as well.
>>
>> I was looking at an alluminium one as well. They do not rust till the
>> coating peels off.
>>
>> In your opinion which is the best grill to buy for 5-600 range?
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>>
>> Shavak
>
>Hard to go wrong with a Weber. Vermont Castings is also a good choice, but
>some models are apparently made offshore and have been reported to suffer in
>quality.
>
>Larry T

The Vermont Castings [just a few bucks over Shavak's budget], is made
in Canada .[I suspect at the Fiesta plant - as Fiesta bought VC a few
years ago]. I've compared [with the idle curiosity of a Kamado
Driver], the VC & a similar Weber and concluded that I would buy VC.
It's carried by Home Depot so that is where my dissatisfaction, if
any, would be directed to.

Harry
>

Steve Calvin wrote:
:: Kent wrote:
::: > wrote in message
::: oups.com...
:::
:::: Hi!
::::
:::: I am looking for a new BBQ and am not sure what to buy. My
budget is
:::: about $500 +/- $100 (cdn). I usually grill for about 4 people
and
:::: sometimes more.
::::
:::: I have looked at several but not sure what to do. I looked at
all
:::: stainless steel bbqs though expensive can turn yellow after a few
:::: years. They are a little harder to clean as well.
::::
:::: I was looking at an alluminium one as well. They do not rust
till the
:::: coating peels off.
::::
:::: In your opinion which is the best grill to buy for 5-600 range?
::::
:::: Thanks for your help,
::::
:::: Shavak
::::
:::
:::
::: Your post suggests you are looking for a gas grill. The Weber
Silver Genesis
::: B should probably be your choice in that price range, as many on
this NG
::: will agree. The lesser expensive Chinese SS grills may be OK, but
they may
::: not, and you have no way of knowing that in advance.
::: Good luck with your quest.
::: Kent
:::
:::
::
:: ok, I created a url for the posts *only* in afb dedicated to
:: gassers. I have it logged for future questions. Just putting
:: it out there in case anyone else would care to use it in the
:: future.
::
:: http://tinyurl.com/ovaej
::
There is actually a grilling forum, set up exactly for people to
discus grilling. Not a lot of real BBQ talk there, either.

http://www.grillforum.com/que/queboard/

But it's monitored/moderated since it is a privately owned, publically
used forum. Subjected to the rules and regulations set forth in the
Faq section. Maybe many of those "people" posting here wouldn't like
the rules over there???

BOB

--
Raw Meat Should NOT Have An Ingredients List

Kevin S. Wilson wrote:
::
:: You got one for discussion about the weather? That would come in
:: handy, too.

Just for you.
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/total_foreca...&county=idc001

BOB
--
Raw Meat Should NOT Have An Ingredients List

All moderated groups basicall die, unless the moderator agrees to stay in
his casket. Even then, he/she has ultimate control.

" BOB" > wrote in message
...
> Steve Calvin wrote:
> :: Kent wrote:
> ::: > wrote in message
> ::: oups.com...
> :::
> :::: Hi!
> ::::
> :::: I am looking for a new BBQ and am not sure what to buy. My budget is
> :::: about $500 +/- $100 (cdn). I usually grill for about 4 people and
> :::: sometimes more.
> ::::
> :::: I have looked at several but not sure what to do. I looked at all
> :::: stainless steel bbqs though expensive can turn yellow after a few
> :::: years. They are a little harder to clean as well.
> ::::
> :::: I was looking at an alluminium one as well. They do not rust till
> the
> :::: coating peels off.
> ::::
> :::: In your opinion which is the best grill to buy for 5-600 range?
> ::::
> :::: Thanks for your help,
> ::::
> :::: Shavak
> ::::
> :::
> :::
> ::: Your post suggests you are looking for a gas grill. The Weber Silver
> Genesis
> ::: B should probably be your choice in that price range, as many on this
> NG
> ::: will agree. The lesser expensive Chinese SS grills may be OK, but they
> may
> ::: not, and you have no way of knowing that in advance.
> ::: Good luck with your quest.
> ::: Kent
> :::
> :::
> ::
> :: ok, I created a url for the posts *only* in afb dedicated to
> :: gassers. I have it logged for future questions. Just putting
> :: it out there in case anyone else would care to use it in the
> :: future.
> ::
> :: http://tinyurl.com/ovaej
> ::
> There is actually a grilling forum, set up exactly for people to discus
> grilling. Not a lot of real BBQ talk there, either.
>
> http://www.grillforum.com/que/queboard/
>
> But it's monitored/moderated since it is a privately owned, publically
> used forum. Subjected to the rules and regulations set forth in the Faq
> section. Maybe many of those "people" posting here wouldn't like the
> rules over there???
>
> BOB
>
> --
> Raw Meat Should NOT Have An Ingredients List
>

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 23:56:28 -0700, "Kent" > wrote:

>All moderated groups basicall die, unless the moderator agrees to stay in
>his casket.

You have a very bad habit of overstating things. Someone should tell
ALL the members of ALL these moderated groups that ALL the groups are
dead or soon will be.

<http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?q=moderated&hl=en&sel=33554433&qt_d=Directory+ Search>

Groups 1-15 of 5620.

talk.origins
Group description: Evolution versus creationism (sometimes hot!).
(Moderated)
Category: Society > Issues
Usenet, 1616 subscribers

linux.kernel
Group description: (Moderated)
Usenet, 1560 subscribers

rec.guns
Group description: Discussions about firearms. (Moderated)
Category: Recreation > Guns
Usenet, 1292 subscribers

And so on . . .

>Even then, he/she has ultimate control.

Yes, Kent. That's why the groups are called "moderated." See how that
works?

PS: Which moderated groups did you get banned from?

> >
> >> I am looking for a new BBQ and am not sure what to buy. My budget is
> >> about $500 +/- $100 (cdn). I usually grill for about 4 people and
> >> sometimes more.
> >>
> >> I have looked at several but not sure what to do. I looked at all
> >> stainless steel bbqs though expensive can turn yellow after a few
> >> years. They are a little harder to clean as well.
> >>
> >> I was looking at an alluminium one as well. They do not rust till the
> >> coating peels off.
> >>
> >> In your opinion which is the best grill to buy for 5-600 range?
> >>
> >> Thanks for your help,
> >>
> >> Shavak
> >
> >Hard to go wrong with a Weber. Vermont Castings is also a good choice,
but
> >some models are apparently made offshore and have been reported to suffer
in
> >quality.
> >
> >Larry T
>
> The Vermont Castings [just a few bucks over Shavak's budget], is made
> in Canada .[I suspect at the Fiesta plant - as Fiesta bought VC a few
> years ago]. I've compared [with the idle curiosity of a Kamado
> Driver], the VC & a similar Weber and concluded that I would buy VC.
> It's carried by Home Depot so that is where my dissatisfaction, if
> any, would be directed to.
>
> Harry

I'll stand corrected then... A couple of years ago when I was grill
shopping, I looked at the VC that HD had. The research I did at that time
suggested it was made in China, and there was some criticism of the quality.
Of course all of this input was anecdotal, and I know VC is a well trusted
brand.

Larry T

How about the Ducane? It is a bit more expensive but less than Weber
is. We would want to have a sideburner as well.

I saw this at home depote today:

http://www.ducane.com/product/Grills...plid=13&mid=22

It is about $800 cdn which is more than my budget but if it last twice
as long as the broilmate $400 model then I guess I could fork up the
extra cash but is it worth it?

Is buying stainless steel bbq worth it? I guess it won't rust but have
anyone of you seen it turn yellow over time?

Broilmate:
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/s...2552-broilmate

What is your opinion on this?

Thanks,

Shavak

Hal Burton wrote:

>> Excellent idea. How about going ahead and doin' that and then just
>> cutting the url into http://tinyurl.com and post the shorter link
>> back.
>
>
> Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/qevut
>
>

Good man Hal, thanks. URL is duly noted.

--
Steve

Steve Calvin wrote:
> Hal Burton wrote:
>
>>> Excellent idea. How about going ahead and doin' that and then just
>>> cutting the url into http://tinyurl.com and post the shorter link
>>> back.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/qevut
>>
>>
>
> Good man Hal, thanks. URL is duly noted.
>
Oh, and apologies if I was outta line. I was just bery
cranky last evening...

--
Steve

On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:54:10 GMT, "LT" >
wrote:

>> >
>> >> I am looking for a new BBQ and am not sure what to buy. My budget is
>> >> about $500 +/- $100 (cdn). I usually grill for about 4 people and
>> >> sometimes more.
>> >>
>> >> I have looked at several but not sure what to do. I looked at all
>> >> stainless steel bbqs though expensive can turn yellow after a few
>> >> years. They are a little harder to clean as well.
>> >>
>> >> I was looking at an alluminium one as well. They do not rust till the
>> >> coating peels off.
>> >>
>> >> In your opinion which is the best grill to buy for 5-600 range?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your help,
>> >>
>> >> Shavak
>> >
>> >Hard to go wrong with a Weber. Vermont Castings is also a good choice,
>but
>> >some models are apparently made offshore and have been reported to suffer
>in
>> >quality.
>> >
>> >Larry T
>>
>> The Vermont Castings [just a few bucks over Shavak's budget], is made
>> in Canada .[I suspect at the Fiesta plant - as Fiesta bought VC a few
>> years ago]. I've compared [with the idle curiosity of a Kamado
>> Driver], the VC & a similar Weber and concluded that I would buy VC.
>> It's carried by Home Depot so that is where my dissatisfaction, if
>> any, would be directed to.
>>
>> Harry
>
>I'll stand corrected then... A couple of years ago when I was grill
>shopping, I looked at the VC that HD had. The research I did at that time
>suggested it was made in China, and there was some criticism of the quality.
>Of course all of this input was anecdotal, and I know VC is a well trusted
>brand.
>
>Larry T
>
I was waiting for someone at HD last week and noticed all the 'made in
Canada' stickers on the VCs. They might have come from China in prior
years, though.

Harry

Hello Steve,

> Steve Calvin wrote:
>
>> Hal Burton wrote:
>>
>>>> Excellent idea. How about going ahead and doin' that and then just
>>>> cutting the url into http://tinyurl.com and post the shorter link
>>>> back.
>>>>
>>> Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/qevut
>>>
>> Good man Hal, thanks. URL is duly noted.
>>
> Oh, and apologies if I was outta line. I was just bery cranky last
> evening...

No worries.

Steve Wertz wrote:
:: On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:05:30 -0400, BOB wrote:
::
::: There is actually a grilling forum, set up exactly for people to
::: discus grilling. Not a lot of real BBQ talk there, either.
:::
::: http://www.grillforum.com/que/queboard/
:::
::: But it's monitored/moderated since it is a privately owned,
publically
::: used forum. Subjected to the rules and regulations set forth in
the
::: Faq section. Maybe many of those "people" posting here wouldn't
like
::: the rules over there???
::
:: Sometimes I get the urge to go spam those types of sites with an
:: ad for alt.food.barbecue.
::
:: -sw

Over there, Ray would Plonk it in a heart beat. He has very little
tolerance, so his forums stay pretty much on topic. He does have "The
Other Forum" and it's pretty much wide open but there are rules in
that one, too.

BOB
and I'll bet Kent was barred from one of Ray's forums, that's why he
hates moderated forums


--
Raw Meat Should NOT Have An Ingredients List

"Kent" > wrote in message
> All moderated groups basicall die, unless the moderator agrees to stay in
> his casket. Even then, he/she has ultimate control.


Bwah-hahahahahahaha *cough* *choke*

Is ignorance truly bliss Kent?

--

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:59:35 -0700, Denny Wheeler
> wrote:

>On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 07:46:33 -0600, Kevin S. Wilson >
>wrote:
>
>>You have a very bad habit of overstating things. Someone should tell
>>ALL the members of ALL these moderated groups that ALL the groups are
>>dead or soon will be.
>
>You--in particular--left out
>alt.sex.stories.moderated
>soc.sexuality.general

And another 5615 groups. Doesn't make Kent any less wrong, but that's
hardly a surprise.

I wonder which moderated groups he got spanked out of?

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> How about the Ducane? It is a bit more expensive but less than Weber
> is. We would want to have a sideburner as well.
>
> I saw this at home depote today:
>
> http://www.ducane.com/product/Grills...plid=13&mid=22
>
> It is about $800 cdn which is more than my budget but if it last twice
> as long as the broilmate $400 model then I guess I could fork up the
> extra cash but is it worth it?
>
> Is buying stainless steel bbq worth it? I guess it won't rust but have
> anyone of you seen it turn yellow over time?
>
> Broilmate:
>
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/s...2552-broilmate
>
> What is your opinion on this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shavak
>

As you may or may not know, Ducane is now owned by Weber. Ducane has a rep
for durable no-nonsense grills, but the SS model at HD is not Ducane
USA-built, but rather a licensed branded Chinese-made grill. I can't say
whether that's good or bad, but it is something to be aware of. I gtta say,
it looks nice and seems to offer good bang for the buck. If the return
policy is liberal it might be worth a shot.

One thing to look for (possibly on ebay) is that until about 18 months ago,
Ducane did make some real nice USA-made SS grills (models 7100 and 7200)
that have the "Ducane durability", with and without a (flame) rotisserie (to
me the rotis was Ducane's strong point, coming out with it well before the
IR craze). I picked one up in January and have been very pleased with it so
far.

weber, without doubt. you need to spend 2k for a DCS grill for a
noticable diff. I speak from 8 ys exp with both.

I am a Mod at another site. The best moderation is little moderation. I
protect the inmnocent and clueless, and try to let conversations run
their course. do prevent flame wars.

for me i am a facilitator not a moderator, and my job is to facilitate
conversations, not stifle them

wrote:

> I am a Mod at another site.

Who the heck are you replying to, and what is the context to which you are
responding? I watched the Mod Squad, it was cool. Peggy Lipton was one
heroin-chic babe.
--
Dave
www.davebbq.com