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Indifferent Brisket Guy. One down, one to go
Sorry to start yet another thread, but the other one has devolved
somewhat. So I pulled my first brisket off the grill about an hour ago and the results aren't too bad. It will serve up well tomorrow as is. It was on the grill for 5 hours - last 2.5 in foil - and as you might imagine, is not fork tender. I pulled it because the internal temp had hit 195 deg and I didn't want to overcook it. First one and all that, you know. My grill is holding a steady temp very nicely so I feel confident to start it early tomorrow morning and not keep an eye on it until time to wrap in foil. I've sliced it and covered it in the drippings and rewrapped tightly in foil. I'll probably put it in the oven @ 250 deg. tomorrow for a couple of hours before the event to try to tender it up. I'm cooking the other one (7 lbs) tomorrow and want to achieve a more tender result. I'm guessing I need more cooking time, like about 4 hrs at 250 deg. then another 4 in foil at 225 or so. Whaddaya think? Can I assume that a lower temp like 225 will cook slower and longer resulting in extra time before 195 deg. internal temp is achieved? Again, sincere thanks for the many relevant replies I've received thus far. Mike |
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On 9 Sep 2005 21:04:39 -0700, "geemike" > wrote:
>Sorry to start yet another thread, but the other one has devolved >somewhat. >So I pulled my first brisket off the grill about an hour ago and the >results aren't too bad. It will serve up well tomorrow as is. >It was on the grill for 5 hours - last 2.5 in foil - and as you might >imagine, is not fork tender. I pulled it because the internal temp had >hit 195 deg and I didn't want to overcook it. First one and all that, >you know. > >My grill is holding a steady temp very nicely so I feel confident to >start it early tomorrow morning and not keep an eye on it until time to >wrap in foil. I've sliced it and covered it in the drippings and >rewrapped tightly in foil. I'll probably put it in the oven @ 250 deg. >tomorrow for a couple of hours before the event to try to tender it up. > >I'm cooking the other one (7 lbs) tomorrow and want to achieve a more >tender result. >I'm guessing I need more cooking time, like about 4 hrs at 250 deg. >then another 4 in foil at 225 or so. Whaddaya think? Can I assume >that a lower temp like 225 will cook slower and longer resulting in >extra time before 195 deg. internal temp is achieved? > >Again, sincere thanks for the many relevant replies I've received thus >far. > >Mike Sorry to highjack your last thread. I didn't intend it. I won't reply in this one, no matter what. I apologize. Put your brisket in asap tomorrow at 212-225F and just let it go. Leave it in foil. Hopefully you're serving around noon. It wouldn't hurt to have a water pan in place. Water boils at 212 and will help with the temp. It also increases humidity and will slow drying. The object now is to make what you have tender without drying it out. I did this with a small tri-tip this weekend and it came out fine. Regards, Larry |
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geemike wrote:
> I'm cooking the other one (7 lbs) tomorrow and want to achieve a more > tender result. > I'm guessing I need more cooking time, like about 4 hrs at 250 deg. > then another 4 in foil at 225 or so. Whaddaya think? Can I assume > that a lower temp like 225 will cook slower and longer resulting in > extra time before 195 deg. internal temp is achieved? Congrats on your first time at bat. You definetely got on base. I haven't found that lowering to 225 F will do as you say. I think the next one should just be cooked longer at 250 F. I know several people who use the fork test alone to cook brisket and don't own a thermo or care about internal temperature. I'm not in that camp but that tells you something. I'd rate doneness tests in the following descending order of importance: 1. Fork test 2. Internal temperature and in last place: 3. Cooking time The last one is included more for reference and really doesn't count for much. So, first I'd test your thermo and make sure it's not off. Dunk it in ice water and check for 32 F. Then in boiling water and see if it's 212 F. They don't have to be exact but they should be within a few degrees. That may answer the question right there as to why it read 195 F but was not quite tender enough yet. It may also be that you should have tried reinserting the probe to a slightly different spot in or around center of mass. It's sometimes possible to get off readings. In any case when you cook the next one if it gets to your target temp and it's still not tender enough, keep cooking until it is. Remember, you have a bit of extra protection against dryness because you're using foil. -- Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com |
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Well, our street pot luck is over. We hosted 40 people on our front yard and I was really surprised at the enthusiasm of the crowd. Waving to each other from cars is the extent of our interaction for the most part, so people were really glad to sit down for a couple of hours and meet or get reaquainted. I got big kudos for proposing the event, which meant knocking on everyone's door, selling them on the idea and signing them up to bring a food item to make sure we had a complete menu represented. So about my brisket: I learned from last night's brisket and vowed to cook today's 7 lb-er longer. So I grilled at 250 deg for 4.5 hours with hickory wood chips and then another 5 or so wrapped tightly in tin foil. I verified that a fork would twist easily in it and was satisified that it was done well enough for my needs. I sauced the meat before serving, slicing it thinly then plattered with last nights 5 pounder and dumped most of a bottle of Stubbs sauce over it all, wrapped it back in foil and put in a 175 deg. oven for another 45 minutes to settle the sauce into the sliced meat. Todays Brisket turned out really, really well and nearly everyone paid sincere compliments to me on the result. I'm sure it wasn't on par with what many here do, but it exceeded my own expectations and pleased our guests. So thank you AFB for the patient advice. I'm really glad I didn't do brisket pot roast with onion soup mix in the oven. Best Mike |
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"geemike" > wrote:
> Well, our street pot luck is over. We hosted 40 people on our front > yard [ . . . ] > > Todays Brisket turned out really, really well and nearly everyone paid > sincere compliments to me on the result. I'm sure it wasn't on par > with what many here do, but it exceeded my own expectations and pleased > our guests. So thank you AFB for the patient advice. I'm really glad > I didn't do brisket pot roast with onion soup mix in the oven. > ". . . it exceeded my own expectations and pleased our guests." That's a damn good start! -- Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled War on Terror Veterans and their families: http://saluteheroes.org/ & http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ! |
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geemike wrote:
> Todays Brisket turned out really, really well and nearly everyone paid > sincere compliments to me on the result. I'm sure it wasn't on par > with what many here do, but it exceeded my own expectations and pleased > our guests. So thank you AFB for the patient advice. I'm really glad > I didn't do brisket pot roast with onion soup mix in the oven. Way to go Mike. Glad it worked out. -- Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com |
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On 9 Sep 2005 21:04:39 -0700, I needed a babel fish to understand
"geemike" > : >My grill is holding a steady temp very nicely so I feel confident to >start it early tomorrow morning and not keep an eye on it until time to >wrap in foil. I've sliced it and covered it in the drippings and >rewrapped tightly in foil. I'll probably put it in the oven @ 250 deg. >tomorrow for a couple of hours before the event to try to tender it up. >Mike Want to throw a little note on personal experiences.... When I do a BBQ for a decent size group, I usually cook my Briskets the day before and other meats the day of. When the Brisket is finished on the smoker, I wrap it up and let it cool some.. Then off to the fridge. I do my cutting the day of, when the brisket is cool. Then refoil it and heat in the oven. I have sliced it the day before, and what I felt was that the brisket maintained its moisture better when left whole in the fridge. Good luck on the run. ---------------------------------------- "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke |
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