This from alt.food.fast-food and his home group, alt.usenet.kooks.

This is one very dangerously manipulative and brain damaged man:

> You are so ****ing ignorant about the real world and anything having
> to do with sexual relations. Have your mom tell you about Schoolgirl
> fetishes, dumbass Read this in the meantime:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform...olgirl_uniform
>
> (and then under that you'll see the French Maid I mentioned, duh).
>
> Making an ass out of you is getting boring. I feel so.... empty. I
> need fresh meat. Lets see... who else should we invite to the
> party...
>
> -sw

On Friday, June 28, 2013 1:04:55 PM UTC-4, casa bona wrote:
> This from alt.food.fast-food and his home group, alt.usenet.kooks.
>
>
>
> This is one very dangerously manipulative and brain damaged man:
>
>
>
> > You are so ****ing ignorant about the real world and anything having
>
> > to do with sexual relations. Have your mom tell you about Schoolgirl
>
> > fetishes, dumbass Read this in the meantime:
>
> >
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform...olgirl_uniform
>
> >
>
> > (and then under that you'll see the French Maid I mentioned, duh).
>
> >
>
> > Making an ass out of you is getting boring. I feel so.... empty. I
>
> > need fresh meat. Lets see... who else should we invite to the
>
> > party...
>
> >
>
> > -sw

**** off.

On 6/28/2013 12:57 PM, wrote:
> On Friday, June 28, 2013 1:04:55 PM UTC-4, casa bona wrote:
>> This from alt.food.fast-food and his home group, alt.usenet.kooks.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is one very dangerously manipulative and brain damaged man:
>>
>>
>>
>>> You are so ****ing ignorant about the real world and anything having
>>
>>> to do with sexual relations. Have your mom tell you about Schoolgirl
>>
>>> fetishes, dumbass Read this in the meantime:
>>
>>>
>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform...olgirl_uniform
>>
>>>
>>
>>> (and then under that you'll see the French Maid I mentioned, duh).
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Making an ass out of you is getting boring. I feel so.... empty. I
>>
>>> need fresh meat. Lets see... who else should we invite to the
>>
>>> party...
>>
>>>
>>
>>> -sw
>
> **** off.
>

In a word - no.

Ok..looks like you two might need to exchange a shirtless cyber hug.

"casa bona" > wrote in message
...
> This from alt.food.fast-food and his home group, alt.usenet.kooks.
>
> This is one very dangerously manipulative and brain damaged man:

Took you long enough.

>> You are so ****ing ignorant about the real world and anything having
>> to do with sexual relations. Have your mom tell you about Schoolgirl
>> fetishes, dumbass Read this in the meantime:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform...olgirl_uniform
>>

I personally like the naughty librarian look.

>> (and then under that you'll see the French Maid I mentioned, duh).
>>
>> Making an ass out of you is getting boring. I feel so.... empty. I
>> need fresh meat. Lets see... who else should we invite to the
>> party...

Welcome to the Internet.

On 6/28/2013 3:07 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "casa bona" > wrote in message
> ...
>> This from alt.food.fast-food and his home group, alt.usenet.kooks.
>>
>> This is one very dangerously manipulative and brain damaged man:
>
> Took you long enough.

I tend to give folks the benefit of the doubt, and like so many others
it was easy to assume based on the nice pics he posts that there might
be some normalcy within.

My bad.

>>> You are so ****ing ignorant about the real world and anything having
>>> to do with sexual relations. Have your mom tell you about Schoolgirl
>>> fetishes, dumbass Read this in the meantime:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform...olgirl_uniform
>>>
>
> I personally like the naughty librarian look.

Has anyone ever really met one?

>>> (and then under that you'll see the French Maid I mentioned, duh).
>>>
>>> Making an ass out of you is getting boring. I feel so.... empty. I
>>> need fresh meat. Lets see... who else should we invite to the
>>> party...
>
> Welcome to the Internet.

Been here, seen that, etc.

On Friday, June 28, 2013 2:15:16 PM UTC-7, casa bona wrote:

Dude, you forget most of us have known these two for quite a while.

This thread is another example of you being a whiny little bitch.

Were you ever voted "most likely to become a stalker" ? Bet you were.

On 6/29/2013 12:08 PM, tutall wrote:
> On Friday, June 28, 2013 2:15:16 PM UTC-7, casa bona wrote:
>
> Dude, you forget most of us have known these two for quite a while.

I think the same has been said of other artful sociopaths through history.

> This thread is another example of you being a whiny little bitch.

This response is an example of you choosing not to pay attention to what
they do in other groups.

> Were you ever voted "most likely to become a stalker" ? Bet you were.

Reading the google groups archive is stalking?

Seriously?

On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:10:30 -0600, casa bona > wrote:



>
>This response is an example of you choosing not to pay attention to what
>they do in other groups.

I'm not active in the other groups. I don't really care what goes on
there. Just as I don't peep in the neighbor's windows.

On 6/29/2013 12:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:10:30 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>> This response is an example of you choosing not to pay attention to what
>> they do in other groups.
>
> I'm not active in the other groups. I don't really care what goes on
> there. Just as I don't peep in the neighbor's windows.
>
Which honestly is how guys like Spin and Marty get safe harbors to troll
from.

Just sayin'...

On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:36:50 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

>On 6/29/2013 12:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:10:30 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> This response is an example of you choosing not to pay attention to what
>>> they do in other groups.
>>
>> I'm not active in the other groups. I don't really care what goes on
>> there. Just as I don't peep in the neighbor's windows.
>>
>Which honestly is how guys like Spin and Marty get safe harbors to troll
>from.
>
>Just sayin'...

So I should go play Net Cop in groups I have no interest in?

On 6/29/2013 2:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:36:50 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 6/29/2013 12:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:10:30 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> This response is an example of you choosing not to pay attention to what
>>>> they do in other groups.
>>>
>>> I'm not active in the other groups. I don't really care what goes on
>>> there. Just as I don't peep in the neighbor's windows.
>>>
>> Which honestly is how guys like Spin and Marty get safe harbors to troll
>> from.
>>
>> Just sayin'...
>
> So I should go play Net Cop in groups I have no interest in?
>

Maybe just be aware, chide them for doing so, coach a little better net
citizenship.

I mean would you hang with a guy who was knocking over 7-11s just
because he's never hit your local Safeway store?

On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 15:05:01 -0600, casa bona > wrote:



>>> Which honestly is how guys like Spin and Marty get safe harbors to troll
>>> from.
>>>
>>> Just sayin'...
>>
>> So I should go play Net Cop in groups I have no interest in?
>>
>
>Maybe just be aware, chide them for doing so, coach a little better net
>citizenship.
>
>I mean would you hang with a guy who was knocking over 7-11s just
>because he's never hit your local Safeway store?

OK, I should be a Den Mother then.

Bad Marty, bad
Bad Stevie, bad

On 6/29/2013 3:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 15:05:01 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>
>
>>>> Which honestly is how guys like Spin and Marty get safe harbors to troll
>>>> from.
>>>>
>>>> Just sayin'...
>>>
>>> So I should go play Net Cop in groups I have no interest in?
>>>
>>
>> Maybe just be aware, chide them for doing so, coach a little better net
>> citizenship.
>>
>> I mean would you hang with a guy who was knocking over 7-11s just
>> because he's never hit your local Safeway store?
>
> OK, I should be a Den Mother then.
>
> Bad Marty, bad
> Bad Stevie, bad
>

It takes a village...ty.

In ,
casa bona > belched:
> On 6/29/2013 2:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:36:50 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/29/2013 12:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:10:30 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This response is an example of you choosing not to pay attention
>>>>> to what they do in other groups.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not active in the other groups. I don't really care what goes
>>>> on there. Just as I don't peep in the neighbor's windows.
>>>>
>>> Which honestly is how guys like Spin and Marty get safe harbors to
>>> troll from.
>>>
>>> Just sayin'...
>>
>> So I should go play Net Cop in groups I have no interest in?
>>
>
> Maybe just be aware, chide them for doing so, coach a little better
> net citizenship.
>
> I mean would you hang with a guy who was knocking over 7-11s just
> because he's never hit your local Safeway store?

How about we chide you for dragging your shit in here and crossposting?
We are now aware that *you* are a shit stirrer.

On 6/29/2013 7:22 PM, ChairMan wrote:
> In ,
> casa bona > belched:
>> On 6/29/2013 2:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:36:50 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/29/2013 12:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:10:30 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This response is an example of you choosing not to pay attention
>>>>>> to what they do in other groups.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not active in the other groups. I don't really care what goes
>>>>> on there. Just as I don't peep in the neighbor's windows.
>>>>>
>>>> Which honestly is how guys like Spin and Marty get safe harbors to
>>>> troll from.
>>>>
>>>> Just sayin'...
>>>
>>> So I should go play Net Cop in groups I have no interest in?
>>>
>>
>> Maybe just be aware, chide them for doing so, coach a little better
>> net citizenship.
>>
>> I mean would you hang with a guy who was knocking over 7-11s just
>> because he's never hit your local Safeway store?
>
> How about we chide you for dragging your shit in here and crossposting?
> We are now aware that *you* are a shit stirrer.

I like to barbecue, what does that make me, a group-killer like Spin and
Marty?

Do you have anything to add in a culinary sense, or just your trolling?>

On 6/29/2013 7:22 PM, casa bona wrote:
> On 6/29/2013 7:22 PM, ChairMan wrote:
>> In ,

>>
>> How about we chide you for dragging your shit in here and crossposting?
>> We are now aware that *you* are a shit stirrer.
>
> I like to barbecue, what does that make me, a group-killer like Spin and
> Marty?
>
> Do you have anything to add in a culinary sense, or just your trolling?>

Hush, Fang. Your cross posted subject had nothing to do with barbecue,
or did you overlook that minor detail? I get lots of good info by
posting less and reading more- enough to know that your boiled then
grilled ribs don't count as barbecue. You are amusing, I'll give you that.

On Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:10:30 AM UTC-7, casa bona wrote:
> On 6/29/2013 12:08 PM, tutall wrote:
>
> > On Friday, June 28, 2013 2:15:16 PM UTC-7, casa bona wrote:

> > Dude, you forget most of us have known these two for quite a while.
>
> > This thread is another example of you being a whiny little bitch.
>
> This response is an example of you choosing not to pay attention to what
> they do in other groups.

Wow, they are mean people in places like alt.flonk.flonk? Oh my goodness gracious, I think I shall faint!


> > Were you ever voted "most likely to become a stalker" ? Bet you were.
>
> Reading the google groups archive is stalking?
> Seriously?

Yes, yes that is a good example, was not aware you were actively doing so, until you admitted to stalking them just now. Thanks, dumbass.

On 6/29/2013 11:08 PM, Does it really matter? wrote:
> On 6/29/2013 7:22 PM, casa bona wrote:
>> On 6/29/2013 7:22 PM, ChairMan wrote:
>>> In ,
>
>>>
>>> How about we chide you for dragging your shit in here and crossposting?
>>> We are now aware that *you* are a shit stirrer.
>>
>> I like to barbecue, what does that make me, a group-killer like Spin and
>> Marty?
>>
>> Do you have anything to add in a culinary sense, or just your trolling?>
>
> Hush, Fang. Your cross posted subject had nothing to do with barbecue,
> or did you overlook that minor detail?

It had to do with group-killing, Steve's speciality.

> I get lots of good info by
> posting less and reading more- enough to know that your boiled then
> grilled ribs don't count as barbecue. You are amusing, I'll give you that.

I've never boiled a rib in my life.

You're a mutant troll.

Btw, we might discuss foil wrap braising, were you not merely a troll.

On 6/30/2013 1:22 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:10:30 -0600, casa bona wrote:
>
>> Reading the google groups archive is stalking?
>>
>> Seriously?
>
> On a Saturday afternoon when you should be out bird-doggin' chicks and
> bangin' beaver?
>
> Yeah. That's called stalking.
>
> -sw
>
Your crude fantasies aside, take a hike, troll.

On 6/30/2013 1:24 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 15:05:01 -0600, casa bona wrote:
>
>> On 6/29/2013 2:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:36:50 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/29/2013 12:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:10:30 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This response is an example of you choosing not to pay attention to what
>>>>>> they do in other groups.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not active in the other groups. I don't really care what goes on
>>>>> there. Just as I don't peep in the neighbor's windows.
>>>>>
>>>> Which honestly is how guys like Spin and Marty get safe harbors to troll
>>>> from.
>>>>
>>>> Just sayin'...
>>>
>>> So I should go play Net Cop in groups I have no interest in?
>>>
>>
>> Maybe just be aware, chide them for doing so, coach a little better net
>> citizenship.
>>
>> I mean would you hang with a guy who was knocking over 7-11s just
>> because he's never hit your local Safeway store?
>
> Heh. You have to admire his absurdity.
>
> -sw
>
I notice you have not denied your group-killing...

On 6/30/2013 2:40 AM, tutall wrote:
> On Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:10:30 AM UTC-7, casa bona wrote:
>> On 6/29/2013 12:08 PM, tutall wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, June 28, 2013 2:15:16 PM UTC-7, casa bona wrote:
>
>>> Dude, you forget most of us have known these two for quite a while.
>>
>>> This thread is another example of you being a whiny little bitch.
>>
>> This response is an example of you choosing not to pay attention to what
>> they do in other groups.
>
> Wow, they are mean people in places like alt.flonk.flonk? Oh my goodness gracious, I think I shall faint!

No.

Marty has made a play to kill off several pro football groups, most
grotesquely the Green bay packers group in 2010.

Steve has been doing his level best to ruin alt.food.fast-food.

And there are other examples, should you have interest in them.


>>> Were you ever voted "most likely to become a stalker" ? Bet you were.
>>
>> Reading the google groups archive is stalking?
>> Seriously?
>
> Yes, yes that is a good example, was not aware you were actively doing so, until you admitted to stalking them just now. Thanks, dumbass.

So reading an archive is, to you, stalking?

That's odd to the extreme.

casa bona > wrote:
> On 6/29/2013 7:22 PM, ChairMan wrote:
>> In ,
>> casa bona > belched:
>>> On 6/29/2013 2:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:36:50 -0600, casa bona
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/29/2013 12:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:10:30 -0600, casa bona
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This response is an example of you choosing not to
>>>>>>> pay attention
>>>>>>> to what they do in other groups.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not active in the other groups. I don't really
>>>>>> care what
>>>>>> goes on there. Just as I don't peep in the
>>>>>> neighbor's windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Which honestly is how guys like Spin and Marty get
>>>>> safe harbors to
>>>>> troll from.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just sayin'...
>>>>
>>>> So I should go play Net Cop in groups I have no
>>>> interest in?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe just be aware, chide them for doing so, coach a
>>> little better
>>> net citizenship.
>>>
>>> I mean would you hang with a guy who was knocking over
>>> 7-11s just
>>> because he's never hit your local Safeway store?
>>
>> How about we chide you for dragging your shit in here and
>> crossposting? We are now aware that *you* are a shit
>> stirrer.
>
> I like to barbecue, what does that make me, a group-killer
> like Spin
> and Marty?

So bbq and STFU or you'll be in everyones KF as a troll,
like you are
And what groups have Marty and Steve killed?
1
2
3
4

>
> Do you have anything to add in a culinary sense, or just
> your
> trolling?>

**** YOU, you started this thread, you brought it here and
its has nothing to do with Q'in.
Just a little whiny bitch complaining that some one took his
ball and nobody will play with him.
I'd say based on the replies, that *you* are the troll.
welcome to my KF, ****wit

On 6/30/2013 10:44 AM, casa bona wrote:
> On 6/29/2013 11:08 PM, Does it really matter? wrote:
>> On 6/29/2013 7:22 PM, casa bona wrote:
>>> On 6/29/2013 7:22 PM, ChairMan wrote:
>>>> In ,
>>
>>>>
>>>> How about we chide you for dragging your shit in here and crossposting?
>>>> We are now aware that *you* are a shit stirrer.
>>>
>>> I like to barbecue, what does that make me, a group-killer like Spin and
>>> Marty?
>>>
>>> Do you have anything to add in a culinary sense, or just your trolling?>
>>
>> Hush, Fang. Your cross posted subject had nothing to do with barbecue,
>> or did you overlook that minor detail?
>
> It had to do with group-killing, Steve's speciality.
>

But not barbecue. Understood.

>> I get lots of good info by
>> posting less and reading more- enough to know that your boiled then
>> grilled ribs don't count as barbecue. You are amusing, I'll give you
>> that.
>
> I've never boiled a rib in my life.
>

Heh.

> You're a mutant troll.
>

Here Fishy, Fishy... I'm just busting your chops because you came in
here and dropped a deuce on this newsgroup. You'll notice my screen name
isn't following you around the internets. Mutant? Not so much.

> Btw, we might discuss foil wrap braising, were you not merely a troll.
>

I'm not a big fan of using foil in that it affects the bark formation on
my ribs (and other meats). What does your technique get you in a
barbecue sense? I'd be worried the meat would steam when wrapped in foil.

On 6/30/2013 6:04 PM, Does it really matter? wrote:
> On 6/30/2013 10:44 AM, casa bona wrote:
>> On 6/29/2013 11:08 PM, Does it really matter? wrote:
>>> On 6/29/2013 7:22 PM, casa bona wrote:
>>>> On 6/29/2013 7:22 PM, ChairMan wrote:
>>>>> In ,
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How about we chide you for dragging your shit in here and
>>>>> crossposting?
>>>>> We are now aware that *you* are a shit stirrer.
>>>>
>>>> I like to barbecue, what does that make me, a group-killer like Spin
>>>> and
>>>> Marty?
>>>>
>>>> Do you have anything to add in a culinary sense, or just your
>>>> trolling?>
>>>
>>> Hush, Fang. Your cross posted subject had nothing to do with barbecue,
>>> or did you overlook that minor detail?
>>
>> It had to do with group-killing, Steve's speciality.
>>
>
> But not barbecue. Understood.

No, just safe harbors, so?

>>> I get lots of good info by
>>> posting less and reading more- enough to know that your boiled then
>>> grilled ribs don't count as barbecue. You are amusing, I'll give you
>>> that.
>>
>> I've never boiled a rib in my life.
>>
>
> Heh.

And why would you?

Restaurant mule perhaps?

They love to do that and cheaply finalize with a grill sear.

You can always tell - gray pork.

It sits, after boiling, in a steam tray awaiting a sauce and grill.

Fast food - restaurant style.

Ever work a Salamander?

Most hard-working tool in any shop.

>> You're a mutant troll.
>>
>
> Here Fishy, Fishy... I'm just busting your chops because you came in
> here and dropped a deuce on this newsgroup. You'll notice my screen name
> isn't following you around the internets. Mutant? Not so much.

Oh definitely mutated, as here is concerned.

>> Btw, we might discuss foil wrap braising, were you not merely a troll.
>>
>
> I'm not a big fan of using foil in that it affects the bark formation on
> my ribs (and other meats).

The bark is born in the smoker and the foil warp seals and enhances
moisture.

You add a bit of cider and rub.

A turn on the grill caramelizes the results.

> What does your technique get you in a
> barbecue sense? I'd be worried the meat would steam when wrapped in foil.

It gets a very moist product which then hits the searing hot grill for a
final crisping.

The technique is not uncommon on the competition circuit and works
similarly well for brisket and pork shoulder.

Since you asked...

On 6/30/2013 7:19 PM, casa bona wrote:
> On 6/30/2013 6:04 PM, Does it really matter? wrote:
>> On 6/30/2013 10:44 AM, casa bona wrote:
>>> On 6/29/2013 11:08 PM, Does it really matter? wrote:
>>>> On 6/29/2013 7:22 PM, casa bona wrote:
>>>>> On 6/29/2013 7:22 PM, ChairMan wrote:
>>>>>> In ,
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about we chide you for dragging your shit in here and
>>>>>> crossposting?
>>>>>> We are now aware that *you* are a shit stirrer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like to barbecue, what does that make me, a group-killer like Spin
>>>>> and
>>>>> Marty?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have anything to add in a culinary sense, or just your
>>>>> trolling?>
>>>>
>>>> Hush, Fang. Your cross posted subject had nothing to do with barbecue,
>>>> or did you overlook that minor detail?
>>>
>>> It had to do with group-killing, Steve's speciality.
>>>
>>
>> But not barbecue. Understood.
>
> No, just safe harbors, so?

But not barbecue. Understood.
>
>>>> I get lots of good info by
>>>> posting less and reading more- enough to know that your boiled then
>>>> grilled ribs don't count as barbecue. You are amusing, I'll give you
>>>> that.
>>>
>>> I've never boiled a rib in my life.
>>>
>>
>> Heh.
>
> And why would you?
>
> Restaurant mule perhaps?

You'll have to explain your insult. Please use small words so my lips
don't move so much.

>
> They love to do that and cheaply finalize with a grill sear.
>
> You can always tell - gray pork.
>
> It sits, after boiling, in a steam tray awaiting a sauce and grill.
>
> Fast food - restaurant style.

I guess I'll have to defer to your real world talents.
>
> Ever work a Salamander?

No. You?

> Most hard-working tool in any shop.
>

Well, you're a pretty hard working tool yourself.

>>> You're a mutant troll.
>>>
>>
>> Here Fishy, Fishy... I'm just busting your chops because you came in
>> here and dropped a deuce on this newsgroup. You'll notice my screen name
>> isn't following you around the internets. Mutant? Not so much.
>
> Oh definitely mutated, as here is concerned.
>
Mutated in what way? Did my name change? Am I now a mutant because I
chose to **** with you in the newsgroup you cross posted to with no
relevant subject matter, or knowledge?

>>> Btw, we might discuss foil wrap braising, were you not merely a troll.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not a big fan of using foil in that it affects the bark formation on
>> my ribs (and other meats).
>
> The bark is born in the smoker and the foil warp seals and enhances
> moisture.
>
> You add a bit of cider and rub.
>
> A turn on the grill caramelizes the results.

>> What does your technique get you in a
>> barbecue sense? I'd be worried the meat would steam when wrapped in foil.
>
> It gets a very moist product which then hits the searing hot grill for a
> final crisping.
>

That's one way. Me, I let the cooker do the work rather than braising
(steaming) meat in foil then cooking it again on a grill. If that works
for you then don't change a note.

> The technique is not uncommon on the competition circuit and works
> similarly well for brisket and pork shoulder.
>
> Since you asked...



http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/

On 7/1/2013 7:42 AM, Does it really matter? wrote:
> On 6/30/2013 7:19 PM, casa bona wrote:
>> On 6/30/2013 6:04 PM, Does it really matter? wrote:
>>> On 6/30/2013 10:44 AM, casa bona wrote:
>>>> On 6/29/2013 11:08 PM, Does it really matter? wrote:
>>>>> On 6/29/2013 7:22 PM, casa bona wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/29/2013 7:22 PM, ChairMan wrote:
>>>>>>> In ,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How about we chide you for dragging your shit in here and
>>>>>>> crossposting?
>>>>>>> We are now aware that *you* are a shit stirrer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like to barbecue, what does that make me, a group-killer like Spin
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Marty?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have anything to add in a culinary sense, or just your
>>>>>> trolling?>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hush, Fang. Your cross posted subject had nothing to do with barbecue,
>>>>> or did you overlook that minor detail?
>>>>
>>>> It had to do with group-killing, Steve's speciality.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But not barbecue. Understood.
>>
>> No, just safe harbors, so?
>
> But not barbecue. Understood.

Just group-killing, which Steve and Marty practice elsewhere, period.

This being, ftmp, Marty's safe harbor.


>>
>>>>> I get lots of good info by
>>>>> posting less and reading more- enough to know that your boiled then
>>>>> grilled ribs don't count as barbecue. You are amusing, I'll give you
>>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> I've never boiled a rib in my life.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Heh.
>>
>> And why would you?
>>
>> Restaurant mule perhaps?
>
> You'll have to explain your insult. Please use small words so my lips
> don't move so much.

You'll have to get over a descriptive term for a restaurant worker being
perceived as an insult, how your lips move is up to you.

>>
>> They love to do that and cheaply finalize with a grill sear.
>>
>> You can always tell - gray pork.
>>
>> It sits, after boiling, in a steam tray awaiting a sauce and grill.
>>
>> Fast food - restaurant style.
>
> I guess I'll have to defer to your real world talents.

I guess you'll continue to speculate and do so to suit your own needs.

>>
>> Ever work a Salamander?
>
> No. You?

One of us knows the drill, it seems not to be you.


> > Most hard-working tool in any shop.
>>
>
> Well, you're a pretty hard working tool yourself.

Well you're a pretty low-effort troll, as trolls go.

>>>> You're a mutant troll.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Here Fishy, Fishy... I'm just busting your chops because you came in
>>> here and dropped a deuce on this newsgroup. You'll notice my screen name
>>> isn't following you around the internets. Mutant? Not so much.
>>
>> Oh definitely mutated, as here is concerned.
>>
> Mutated in what way? Did my name change?

From what you use elsewhere? Yes.

> Am I now a mutant because I
> chose to **** with you in the newsgroup you cross posted to with no
> relevant subject matter, or knowledge?

As it stands only ONE of us has posted heron accurate and useful
barbecue insight - and it was not you.

>>>> Btw, we might discuss foil wrap braising, were you not merely a troll.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not a big fan of using foil in that it affects the bark formation on
>>> my ribs (and other meats).
>>
>> The bark is born in the smoker and the foil warp seals and enhances
>> moisture.
>>
>> You add a bit of cider and rub.
>>
>> A turn on the grill caramelizes the results.
>
>>> What does your technique get you in a
>>> barbecue sense? I'd be worried the meat would steam when wrapped in
>>> foil.
>>
>> It gets a very moist product which then hits the searing hot grill for a
>> final crisping.
>>
>
> That's one way.

That's a winning way.

> Me, I let the cooker do the work rather than braising
> (steaming) meat in foil then cooking it again on a grill. If that works
> for you then don't change a note.

I won't.

And it works for me and for actual competition chefs by a wide margin.

>> The technique is not uncommon on the competition circuit and works
>> similarly well for brisket and pork shoulder.
>>
>> Since you asked...
>
>
>
> http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/

http://barbecuen.com/smoker.htm

On 7/1/2013 11:30 AM, casa bona wrote:
>

Nothing of importance.