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compressed nitrogen
I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed
nitrogen gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on many lubricant cans. For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock baggie would help keep food from oxidizing, while a blast into a paint can before resealing might lengthen the storage life of the paint. Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this? -- Nonny Luxury cars now offer a great seating option for politicians. These seats blow heated air onto their backside in the winter and cooled air in the summer. If sold to voters, though, the car seats are modified to just blow smoke up the voter's rump year-round |
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"Nonny" > wrote in message news >I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed nitrogen gas in >spray cans, complete with a tube as found on many lubricant cans. For >foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock baggie would help keep food from >oxidizing, while a blast into a paint can before resealing might lengthen >the storage life of the paint. > > Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this? > > - - Nonny > You really have lost it, haven't you? |
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"Nonny" > wrote in message news >I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed nitrogen gas in >spray cans, complete with a tube as found on many lubricant cans. For >foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock baggie would help keep food from >oxidizing, while a blast into a paint can before resealing might lengthen >the storage life of the paint. > > Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this? > > -- > Nonny You can buy the compressed gas already for wine. Ive seen it in small containers. LOL it might be what you need Lew |
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"Drafted54" > wrote in message ... > > "Nonny" > wrote in message > news >>I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed >>nitrogen gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on >>many lubricant cans. For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip >>lock baggie would help keep food from oxidizing, while a blast >>into a paint can before resealing might lengthen the storage >>life of the paint. >> >> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this? >> >> -- >> Nonny > > > You can buy the compressed gas already for wine. Ive seen it in > small containers. LOL it might be what you need I didn't know that. Thanks. I think a can about like dust-off, but with the nitrogen gas inside would be about right. It's not like the nitrogen gas is dangerous or pollutes. All I'd want is something to purge most of the air from a baggie, like a bag of shredded cheese, before sealing. I have a Foodsaver and can use it, but a swoosh from a nitrogen can would be faster. -- Nonny Luxury cars now offer a great seating option for politicians. These seats blow heated air onto their backside in the winter and cooled air in the summer. If sold to voters, though, the car seats are modified to just blow smoke up the voter's rump year-round |
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"Kelvin" > wrote in message ... > > "Nonny" > wrote in message > news >>I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed >>nitrogen gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on >>many lubricant cans. For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip >>lock baggie would help keep food from oxidizing, while a blast >>into a paint can before resealing might lengthen the storage >>life of the paint. >> >> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this? >> >> - - Nonny >> > You really have lost it, haven't you? Probably it was back when I built and installed an electric Brandy dispenser in the kitchen. If I'm truly nuts, I'd go to a gas supplier, buy a bottle of Nitrogen, a pressure regulator, an electric valve and a length of PEX hose to run from the garage to the kitchen. Hmmmmmmmmm -- Nonny Luxury cars now offer a great seating option for politicians. These seats blow heated air onto their backside in the winter and cooled air in the summer. If sold to voters, though, the car seats are modified to just blow smoke up the voter’s rump year-round |
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On 2/24/2010 12:47 AM, Nonny wrote:
snip > I didn't know that. Thanks. I think a can about like dust-off, but with > the nitrogen gas inside would be about right. It's not like the nitrogen > gas is dangerous or pollutes. All I'd want is something to purge most of > the air from a baggie, like a bag of shredded cheese, before sealing. I > have a Foodsaver and can use it, but a swoosh from a nitrogen can would > be faster. > Nonny, and when you vac sealed the bag you'd suck out all the nitrogen... When you use a vac sealer you are removing so enough of the oxygen to improve storage time as well if you have a quality bag, then oxygen can't enter through the bag walls. -- regards, mike piedmont, The Practical BBQ'r http://sites.google.com/site/thepracticalbbqr/ (mawil55) |
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Nonny wrote: > > I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed > nitrogen gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on many > lubricant cans. For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock > baggie would help keep food from oxidizing, while a blast into a > paint can before resealing might lengthen the storage life of the > paint. > > Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this? As others have noted, such overpriced products already exist. A similar non food grade on exists for use on cans of paint and the like as well. Someone mentioned sucking out the N2 when vacuum sealing, and that's partly correct, however I tend not to vacuum re-seal bags of chips and the like, which happen to be the same products that are flushed with N2 at the factory before sealing. If you plan to do any significant amount of this, you need to invest in a cylinder of N2 and a regulator (get at any welding supply place), or you can do as I do and draw your N2 from your LN2 Dewar. |
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"Nonny" > wrote in message ... > > "Drafted54" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Nonny" > wrote in message >> news >>>I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed nitrogen gas >>>in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on many lubricant cans. For >>>foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock baggie would help keep food >>>from oxidizing, while a blast into a paint can before resealing might >>>lengthen the storage life of the paint. >>> >>> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this? >>> >>> -- >>> Nonny >> >> >> You can buy the compressed gas already for wine. Ive seen it in small >> containers. LOL it might be what you need > > I didn't know that. Thanks. I think a can about like dust-off, but with > the nitrogen gas inside would be about right. It's not like the nitrogen > gas is dangerous or pollutes. All I'd want is something to purge most of > the air from a baggie, like a bag of shredded cheese, before sealing. I > have a Foodsaver and can use it, but a swoosh from a nitrogen can would be > faster. > > -- > Nonny > > I've been using "Private Preserve" wine preserver for years to prevent oxidation of wine. http://www.privatepreserve.com/ It should work well for what you're trying to accomplish. It works well for preserving a half finished bottle of old wine. Kent |
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"Kent" > wrote in message ... > > "Nonny" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Drafted54" > wrote in >> message ... >>> >>> "Nonny" > wrote in message >>> news >>>>I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed >>>>nitrogen gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on >>>>many lubricant cans. For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a >>>>zip lock baggie would help keep food from oxidizing, while a >>>>blast into a paint can before resealing might lengthen the >>>>storage life of the paint. >>>> >>>> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Nonny >>> >>> >>> You can buy the compressed gas already for wine. Ive seen it >>> in small containers. LOL it might be what you need >> >> I didn't know that. Thanks. I think a can about like >> dust-off, but with the nitrogen gas inside would be about >> right. It's not like the nitrogen gas is dangerous or >> pollutes. All I'd want is something to purge most of the air >> from a baggie, like a bag of shredded cheese, before sealing. >> I have a Foodsaver and can use it, but a swoosh from a nitrogen >> can would be faster. >> >> -- >> Nonny >> >> > I've been using "Private Preserve" wine preserver for years to > prevent oxidation of wine. http://www.privatepreserve.com/ It > should work well for what you're trying to accomplish. It works > well for preserving a half finished bottle of old wine. > > Kent Excellent. In another ng I was given a URL for Argon in a can. Right now, I'm researching a 30" or so 4000psi bottle with pressure regulator, hose and using an air blow gun to dispense. We have a bedroom immediately behind the kitchen and there's a nice gap between a dresser and wall where the bottle would fit. . .. right behind the refrigerator. -- Nonny Luxury cars now offer a great seating option for politicians. These seats blow heated air onto their backside in the winter and cooled air in the summer. If sold to voters, though, the car seats are modified to just blow smoke up the voter’s rump year-round |
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piedmont wrote:
> On 2/24/2010 12:47 AM, Nonny wrote: > snip >> I didn't know that. Thanks. I think a can about like dust-off, but with >> the nitrogen gas inside would be about right. It's not like the nitrogen >> gas is dangerous or pollutes. All I'd want is something to purge most of >> the air from a baggie, like a bag of shredded cheese, before sealing. I >> have a Foodsaver and can use it, but a swoosh from a nitrogen can would >> be faster. >> > Nonny, > and when you vac sealed the bag you'd suck out all the nitrogen... > > When you use a vac sealer you are removing so enough of the oxygen to > improve storage time as well if you have a quality bag, then oxygen > can't enter through the bag walls. > That was the flaw I saw in the logic... otherwise it was a sound idea. That's what they put into snacks in the bags to keep them fresh. (but you already knew that) -- Steve |
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compressed nitrogen- update
Well, I've taken the next step and should be playing with Nitrogen
or Argon gas shortly. I went online to eBay and bought a 40 cf 3000 psi cylinder and separately, a pressure regulator with barbed fitting for tubing. I am going to HF and getting an air blow gun like I already have and use in the shop for compressed air. It has a 1/4" NPT inlet, so I went online and found a metal adapter to go from 1/4" NPT to 3/8" ID barbed. I'll get the poly tubing when I get the cylinder, fill it and start hooking things up. It should be fun. I've not decided whether to fill first with Argon or Nitrogen. Argon has some characteristics I like better than Nitrogen for paint cans, but the Nitrogen would surely be cheaper and would work fine for foods and almost as well for paint. I'll post more as things develop. -- Nonny Luxury cars now offer a great seating option for politicians. These seats blow heated air onto their backside in the winter and cooled air in the summer. If sold to voters, though, the car seats are modified to just blow smoke up the voter’s rump year-round |
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"Nunya Bidnits" > wrote in message ... > Drafted54 said: >> "Nonny" > wrote in message >> news >>> I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed nitrogen >>> gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on many lubricant >>> cans. For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock baggie would >>> help keep food from oxidizing, while a blast into a paint can before >>> resealing might lengthen the storage life of the paint. >>> >>> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this? >>> >>> -- >>> Nonny >> >> >> You can buy the compressed gas already for wine. Ive seen it in small >> containers. LOL it might be what you need >> >> Lew > > But that's CO2, isn't it? No.. Lew |
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I have used a regulator like(mine is a much older version) this and these
exact spouts for many many years. http://winekeeper.com I purchase nitro or argon (food safe version) from the local gas supplier in a large bottle. Lew |
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On 25-Feb-2010, "Nonny" > wrote: > "Drafted54" > wrote in message > ... > > > > "Nonny" > wrote in message .. . . > > I didn't know that. Thanks. I think a can about like dust-off, > but with the nitrogen gas inside would be about right. It's not > like the nitrogen gas is dangerous or pollutes. All I'd want is > something to purge most of the air from a baggie, like a bag of > shredded cheese, before sealing. I have a Foodsaver and can use > it, but a swoosh from a nitrogen can would be faster. > > -- > Nonny Here's just the ticket to get you started Nonny. It might be a little pricey for everyday use, but then what can you get for the guy that already has everything? http://www.claflinequip.com/ProductD...=SPN0006400002 -- Brick (Youth is wasted on young people) |
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On Feb 25, 7:25*am, "Brick" > wrote:
> -- > Brick (Youth is wasted on young people) Well, look who's showed up. Hope your absence was for good things. |
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compressed nitrogen- update
Again, thanks to all for the information. Brick, I actually
thought of that, but the liquid would have a short shelf life and I'd have too much fun with it doing things best reserved for a physician. Think of the fun, though, catching up with a cockroach and nuking it in the yard. <grin> If things go as expected, my total cost will be <$200 by probably enough to get the cylinder filled. Installation should be a snap, but then it’s the easy stuff that goes awry, isn't it? I'll keep you all posted. -- Nonny Luxury cars now offer a great seating option for politicians. These seats blow heated air onto their backside in the winter and cooled air in the summer. If sold to voters, though, the car seats are modified to just blow smoke up the voter’s rump year-round |
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On Feb 23, 11:04*pm, "Nonny" > wrote:
> I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed > nitrogen gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on many > lubricant cans. *For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock > baggie would help keep food from oxidizing, while a blast into a > paint can before resealing might lengthen the storage life of the > paint. > > Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this? > > -- > Nonny > Nonny, Please cancel your plans, you could kill someone and not know anything is wrong until it is too late. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_asphyxiation Cam |
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"Cam" > wrote in message ... > On Feb 23, 11:04 pm, "Nonny" > wrote: >> I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed >> nitrogen gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on >> many >> lubricant cans. For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock >> baggie would help keep food from oxidizing, while a blast into >> a >> paint can before resealing might lengthen the storage life of >> the >> paint. >> >> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this? >> >> -- >> Nonny >> > > Nonny, > Please cancel your plans, you could kill someone and not know > anything > is wrong until it is too late. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_asphyxiation > Cam I believe that with the 40 cf small quantity I'll be storing in the garage is used sparingly as a "spritz" into a potato chip sack, bag of cheese etc., that the risk is acceptable. <grin> -- Nonny Luxury cars now offer a great seating option for politicians. These seats blow heated air onto their backside in the winter and cooled air in the summer. If sold to voters, though, the car seats are modified to just blow smoke up the voter's rump year-round |
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On Mar 9, 11:00*am, "Nonny" > wrote:
> "Cam" > wrote in message > > ... > > > On Feb 23, 11:04 pm, "Nonny" > wrote: > >> I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed > >> nitrogen gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on > >> many > >> lubricant cans. *For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock > >> baggie would help keep food from oxidizing, while a blast into > >> a > >> paint can before resealing might lengthen the storage life of > >> the > >> paint. > > >> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this? > > >> -- > >> Nonny > > > Nonny, > > Please cancel your plans, you could kill someone and not know > > anything > > is wrong until it is too late. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_asphyxiation > > Cam > > I believe that with the 40 cf small quantity I'll be storing in > the garage is used sparingly as a "spritz" into a potato chip > sack, bag of cheese etc., that the risk is acceptable. <grin> > > -- > Nonny > Remember to walk into the light. Cam |
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