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I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed
nitrogen gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on many
lubricant cans. For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock
baggie would help keep food from oxidizing, while a blast into a
paint can before resealing might lengthen the storage life of the
paint.

Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this?

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Luxury cars now offer a great seating option for politicians.
These seats blow heated air onto their backside in the winter and
cooled air in the summer. If sold to voters, though, the car
seats
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"Nonny" > wrote in message
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>I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed nitrogen gas in
>spray cans, complete with a tube as found on many lubricant cans. For
>foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock baggie would help keep food from
>oxidizing, while a blast into a paint can before resealing might lengthen
>the storage life of the paint.
>
> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this?
>
> - - Nonny
>

You really have lost it, haven't you?


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"Nonny" > wrote in message
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>I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed nitrogen gas in
>spray cans, complete with a tube as found on many lubricant cans. For
>foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock baggie would help keep food from
>oxidizing, while a blast into a paint can before resealing might lengthen
>the storage life of the paint.
>
> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this?
>
> --
> Nonny



You can buy the compressed gas already for wine. Ive seen it in small
containers. LOL it might be what you need

Lew

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> "Nonny" > wrote in message
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>>I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed
>>nitrogen gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on
>>many lubricant cans. For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip
>>lock baggie would help keep food from oxidizing, while a blast
>>into a paint can before resealing might lengthen the storage
>>life of the paint.
>>
>> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this?
>>
>> --
>> Nonny

>
>
> You can buy the compressed gas already for wine. Ive seen it in
> small containers. LOL it might be what you need


I didn't know that. Thanks. I think a can about like dust-off,
but with the nitrogen gas inside would be about right. It's not
like the nitrogen gas is dangerous or pollutes. All I'd want is
something to purge most of the air from a baggie, like a bag of
shredded cheese, before sealing. I have a Foodsaver and can use
it, but a swoosh from a nitrogen can would be faster.

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Nonny


Luxury cars now offer a great seating option for politicians.
These seats blow heated air onto their backside in the winter and
cooled air in the summer. If sold to voters, though, the car
seats
are modified to just blow smoke up the voter's rump year-round


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> "Nonny" > wrote in message
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>>I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed
>>nitrogen gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on
>>many lubricant cans. For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip
>>lock baggie would help keep food from oxidizing, while a blast
>>into a paint can before resealing might lengthen the storage
>>life of the paint.
>>
>> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this?
>>
>> - - Nonny
>>

> You really have lost it, haven't you?


Probably it was back when I built and installed an electric Brandy
dispenser in the kitchen. If I'm truly nuts, I'd go to a gas
supplier, buy a bottle of Nitrogen, a pressure regulator, an
electric valve and a length of PEX hose to run from the garage to
the kitchen. Hmmmmmmmmm
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Luxury cars now offer a great seating option for politicians.
These seats blow heated air onto their backside in the winter and
cooled air in the summer. If sold to voters, though, the car
seats
are modified to just blow smoke up the voter’s rump year-round




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On 2/24/2010 12:47 AM, Nonny wrote:
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> I didn't know that. Thanks. I think a can about like dust-off, but with
> the nitrogen gas inside would be about right. It's not like the nitrogen
> gas is dangerous or pollutes. All I'd want is something to purge most of
> the air from a baggie, like a bag of shredded cheese, before sealing. I
> have a Foodsaver and can use it, but a swoosh from a nitrogen can would
> be faster.
>

Nonny,
and when you vac sealed the bag you'd suck out all the nitrogen...

When you use a vac sealer you are removing so enough of the oxygen to
improve storage time as well if you have a quality bag, then oxygen
can't enter through the bag walls.

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Nonny wrote:
>
> I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed
> nitrogen gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on many
> lubricant cans. For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock
> baggie would help keep food from oxidizing, while a blast into a
> paint can before resealing might lengthen the storage life of the
> paint.
>
> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this?


As others have noted, such overpriced products already exist. A similar
non food grade on exists for use on cans of paint and the like as well.

Someone mentioned sucking out the N2 when vacuum sealing, and that's
partly correct, however I tend not to vacuum re-seal bags of chips and
the like, which happen to be the same products that are flushed with N2
at the factory before sealing.

If you plan to do any significant amount of this, you need to invest in
a cylinder of N2 and a regulator (get at any welding supply place), or
you can do as I do and draw your N2 from your LN2 Dewar.
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"Nonny" > wrote in message
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>
> "Drafted54" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Nonny" > wrote in message
>> news
>>>I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed nitrogen gas
>>>in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on many lubricant cans. For
>>>foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock baggie would help keep food
>>>from oxidizing, while a blast into a paint can before resealing might
>>>lengthen the storage life of the paint.
>>>
>>> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nonny

>>
>>
>> You can buy the compressed gas already for wine. Ive seen it in small
>> containers. LOL it might be what you need

>
> I didn't know that. Thanks. I think a can about like dust-off, but with
> the nitrogen gas inside would be about right. It's not like the nitrogen
> gas is dangerous or pollutes. All I'd want is something to purge most of
> the air from a baggie, like a bag of shredded cheese, before sealing. I
> have a Foodsaver and can use it, but a swoosh from a nitrogen can would be
> faster.
>
> --
> Nonny
>
>

I've been using "Private Preserve" wine preserver for years to prevent
oxidation of wine. http://www.privatepreserve.com/ It should work well for
what you're trying to accomplish. It works well for preserving a half
finished bottle of old wine.

Kent




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"Kent" > wrote in message
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> "Nonny" > wrote in message
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>> "Drafted54" > wrote in
>> message ...
>>>
>>> "Nonny" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>>I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed
>>>>nitrogen gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on
>>>>many lubricant cans. For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a
>>>>zip lock baggie would help keep food from oxidizing, while a
>>>>blast into a paint can before resealing might lengthen the
>>>>storage life of the paint.
>>>>
>>>> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Nonny
>>>
>>>
>>> You can buy the compressed gas already for wine. Ive seen it
>>> in small containers. LOL it might be what you need

>>
>> I didn't know that. Thanks. I think a can about like
>> dust-off, but with the nitrogen gas inside would be about
>> right. It's not like the nitrogen gas is dangerous or
>> pollutes. All I'd want is something to purge most of the air
>> from a baggie, like a bag of shredded cheese, before sealing.
>> I have a Foodsaver and can use it, but a swoosh from a nitrogen
>> can would be faster.
>>
>> --
>> Nonny
>>
>>

> I've been using "Private Preserve" wine preserver for years to
> prevent oxidation of wine. http://www.privatepreserve.com/ It
> should work well for what you're trying to accomplish. It works
> well for preserving a half finished bottle of old wine.
>
> Kent


Excellent. In another ng I was given a URL for Argon in a can.
Right now, I'm researching a 30" or so 4000psi bottle with
pressure regulator, hose and using an air blow gun to dispense.
We have a bedroom immediately behind the kitchen and there's a
nice gap between a dresser and wall where the bottle would fit. .
.. right behind the refrigerator.


--
Nonny


Luxury cars now offer a great seating option for politicians.
These seats blow heated air onto their backside in the winter and
cooled air in the summer. If sold to voters, though, the car
seats
are modified to just blow smoke up the voter’s rump year-round


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piedmont wrote:
> On 2/24/2010 12:47 AM, Nonny wrote:
> snip
>> I didn't know that. Thanks. I think a can about like dust-off, but with
>> the nitrogen gas inside would be about right. It's not like the nitrogen
>> gas is dangerous or pollutes. All I'd want is something to purge most of
>> the air from a baggie, like a bag of shredded cheese, before sealing. I
>> have a Foodsaver and can use it, but a swoosh from a nitrogen can would
>> be faster.
>>

> Nonny,
> and when you vac sealed the bag you'd suck out all the nitrogen...
>
> When you use a vac sealer you are removing so enough of the oxygen to
> improve storage time as well if you have a quality bag, then oxygen
> can't enter through the bag walls.
>


That was the flaw I saw in the logic... otherwise it was a sound idea.
That's what they put into snacks in the bags to keep them fresh. (but
you already knew that)

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Well, I've taken the next step and should be playing with Nitrogen
or Argon gas shortly. I went online to eBay and bought a 40 cf
3000 psi cylinder and separately, a pressure regulator with barbed
fitting for tubing. I am going to HF and getting an air blow gun
like I already have and use in the shop for compressed air. It
has a 1/4" NPT inlet, so I went online and found a metal adapter
to go from 1/4" NPT to 3/8" ID barbed. I'll get the poly tubing
when I get the cylinder, fill it and start hooking things up. It
should be fun.

I've not decided whether to fill first with Argon or Nitrogen.
Argon has some characteristics I like better than Nitrogen for
paint cans, but the Nitrogen would surely be cheaper and would
work fine for foods and almost as well for paint.

I'll post more as things develop.

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Nonny


Luxury cars now offer a great seating option for politicians.
These seats blow heated air onto their backside in the winter and
cooled air in the summer. If sold to voters, though, the car
seats
are modified to just blow smoke up the voter’s rump year-round


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> Drafted54 said:
>> "Nonny" > wrote in message
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>>> I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed nitrogen
>>> gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on many lubricant
>>> cans. For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock baggie would
>>> help keep food from oxidizing, while a blast into a paint can before
>>> resealing might lengthen the storage life of the paint.
>>>
>>> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nonny

>>
>>
>> You can buy the compressed gas already for wine. Ive seen it in small
>> containers. LOL it might be what you need
>>
>> Lew

>
> But that's CO2, isn't it?


No..

Lew

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I have used a regulator like(mine is a much older version) this and these
exact spouts for many many years. http://winekeeper.com
I purchase nitro or argon (food safe version) from the local gas supplier in
a large bottle.
Lew


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On 25-Feb-2010, "Nonny" > wrote:

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> > "Nonny" > wrote in message


.. . .

>
> I didn't know that. Thanks. I think a can about like dust-off,
> but with the nitrogen gas inside would be about right. It's not
> like the nitrogen gas is dangerous or pollutes. All I'd want is
> something to purge most of the air from a baggie, like a bag of
> shredded cheese, before sealing. I have a Foodsaver and can use
> it, but a swoosh from a nitrogen can would be faster.
>
> --
> Nonny


Here's just the ticket to get you started Nonny. It might be a little
pricey for everyday use, but then what can you get for the guy that
already has everything?

http://www.claflinequip.com/ProductD...=SPN0006400002

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On Feb 25, 7:25*am, "Brick" > wrote:

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> Brick (Youth is wasted on young people)


Well, look who's showed up. Hope your absence was for good things.


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Again, thanks to all for the information. Brick, I actually
thought of that, but the liquid would have a short shelf life and
I'd have too much fun with it doing things best reserved for a
physician. Think of the fun, though, catching up with a cockroach
and nuking it in the yard. <grin>

If things go as expected, my total cost will be <$200 by probably
enough to get the cylinder filled. Installation should be a snap,
but then it’s the easy stuff that goes awry, isn't it? I'll keep
you all posted.

--
Nonny


Luxury cars now offer a great seating option for politicians.
These seats blow heated air onto their backside in the winter and
cooled air in the summer. If sold to voters, though, the car
seats
are modified to just blow smoke up the voter’s rump year-round


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On Feb 23, 11:04*pm, "Nonny" > wrote:
> I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed
> nitrogen gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on many
> lubricant cans. *For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock
> baggie would help keep food from oxidizing, while a blast into a
> paint can before resealing might lengthen the storage life of the
> paint.
>
> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this?
>
> --
> Nonny
>


Nonny,
Please cancel your plans, you could kill someone and not know anything
is wrong until it is too late. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_asphyxiation
Cam
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> On Feb 23, 11:04 pm, "Nonny" > wrote:
>> I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed
>> nitrogen gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on
>> many
>> lubricant cans. For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock
>> baggie would help keep food from oxidizing, while a blast into
>> a
>> paint can before resealing might lengthen the storage life of
>> the
>> paint.
>>
>> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this?
>>
>> --
>> Nonny
>>

>
> Nonny,
> Please cancel your plans, you could kill someone and not know
> anything
> is wrong until it is too late.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_asphyxiation
> Cam


I believe that with the 40 cf small quantity I'll be storing in
the garage is used sparingly as a "spritz" into a potato chip
sack, bag of cheese etc., that the risk is acceptable. <grin>


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Nonny


Luxury cars now offer a great seating option for politicians.
These seats blow heated air onto their backside in the winter and
cooled air in the summer. If sold to voters, though, the car
seats
are modified to just blow smoke up the voter's rump year-round


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On Mar 9, 11:00*am, "Nonny" > wrote:
> "Cam" > wrote in message
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> ...
>
> > On Feb 23, 11:04 pm, "Nonny" > wrote:
> >> I wonder why some company doesn't begin to sell compressed
> >> nitrogen gas in spray cans, complete with a tube as found on
> >> many
> >> lubricant cans. *For foods, a blast of Nitrogen into a zip lock
> >> baggie would help keep food from oxidizing, while a blast into
> >> a
> >> paint can before resealing might lengthen the storage life of
> >> the
> >> paint.

>
> >> Am I wrong in my assumptions that it would do this?

>
> >> --
> >> Nonny

>
> > Nonny,
> > Please cancel your plans, you could kill someone and not know
> > anything
> > is wrong until it is too late.
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_asphyxiation
> > Cam

>
> I believe that with the 40 cf small quantity I'll be storing in
> the garage is used sparingly as a "spritz" into a potato chip
> sack, bag of cheese etc., that the risk is acceptable. <grin>
>
> --
> Nonny
>

Remember to walk into the light.
Cam
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