Not to be all alarmist or anything, but does anyone know of any research
in to the long-term effects of eating smoked food ?

I got a Webber bullet for Christmas and needless to say, I've been eating
a lot of smoked delactables lately !

The thought was that if there are toxins in cigarette smoke, then there
are likely some kind of toxins in wood smoke....

Now, before anyone get's their flame-throwers out, I amd NOT implying
that consuming smoked food is at all like smoking cigarettes (I doubt
that anyone could eat enough BBQ to come close to the same levels).

Regardless, on some minute level, there has to be something that gets
into the food and I was curious. Anyone ?

Gotta go mop my chickens....

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Mark wrote:

> The thought was that if there are toxins in cigarette smoke, then there
> are likely some kind of toxins in wood smoke....

Why is it likely that there are toxins in wood smoke?
I've never seen any credible evidence that this is true when
smoking with specific woods that are not chemically treated.

And don't forget, we're not talking about breathing the smoke

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I smoked for 50 years. I've eaten grilled and smoked food
since I was a pup. I'm 67 and 'one' of the young fella's in
this group. I doubt that I'll die from ingesting smoke.

M&M

"Mark" > wrote in message
et...
>
> Not to be all alarmist or anything,

Then don't ask.. ;-)

If you read enough, you'll find that everything can kill you in some way.
Take it easy, enjoy things you like in moderation and have a good time.
Life's too short to live in fear of the carcinogen of the day.

In article >,
says...
> Mark wrote:
>
> > The thought was that if there are toxins in cigarette smoke, then there
> > are likely some kind of toxins in wood smoke....
>
> Why is it likely that there are toxins in wood smoke?
> I've never seen any credible evidence that this is true when
> smoking with specific woods that are not chemically treated.

On the surface of it, why would anyone think that there are toxins in
tobacco smoke ? It's a plant -can't get more natural than that, right ?

When things burn, the elevated temperatures cause chemical reactions,
changes.

> And don't forget, we're not talking about breathing the smoke

Of course not. That's why I'm certain that any measureable effect is very
small. Like i said, it was more of a curiosity than any 'health concern'

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In article >,
lid says...
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 20:16:32 GMT, Mark
> > wrote:
>
> >Not to be all alarmist or anything, but does anyone know of any research
> >in to the long-term effects of eating smoked food ?
>
> Look up "carcinogens meat".
>
> The first few articles are how to lower the carcinigens. Olive
> oil is supposed to be a good carcinogen inhibitor. Rub or marnite
> in that first.

Interesting, but still not smoke-related.

Perhaps the message is that there is no issue here ? (fine by me !)

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In article >,
says...
>
> "Mark" > wrote in message
> et...
> >
> > Not to be all alarmist or anything,
>
> Then don't ask.. ;-)
>
> If you read enough, you'll find that everything can kill you in some way.
> Take it easy, enjoy things you like in moderation and have a good time.
> Life's too short to live in fear of the carcinogen of the day.

I hear ya -loud and clear. There's no way I'm NOT going to smoke food
(I'm even trying to become more proficient so I can do it more often !).

Besides, you can go crazy worrying aobut his kind of thing and then
you're not paying attention and get hit by a bus. There are no 'bonus
points' for being more or less healthy corpse !

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I have seen some studies that suggest that there may be some carcinogens in
meat that has been smoked. However, the studies that I have seen were funded
by groups like Center for Science in the Public Interest and other what I
call wacko anti-meat groups. If my memory serves, a good look at the data
was done by Steve Miloy who does research on junk science data. Again, if I
am remebering correctly, it has been a few years, the raw data seemed to
show that the toxins were at around the same levels as most vegitables. What
I do remember for sure was after reading his stuff I went out and fired up
the grill!

ag

AG wrote:

> I have seen some studies that suggest that there may be some carcinogens in
> meat that has been smoked. However, the studies that I have seen were funded
> by groups like Center for Science in the Public Interest and other what I
> call wacko anti-meat groups. If my memory serves, a good look at the data
> was done by Steve Miloy who does research on junk science data. Again, if I
> am remebering correctly, it has been a few years, the raw data seemed to
> show that the toxins were at around the same levels as most vegitables. What
> I do remember for sure was after reading his stuff I went out and fired up
> the grill!

According to this article:

http://cis.nci.nih.gov/fact/3_25.htm

grilling muscle meats over high heat (200-250* Celsius) caused
carcinogens to form. Barbecuing - cooking over low heat - produced
negligible amounts.

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Mark wrote:

> In article >,
> says...

>>Why is it likely that there are toxins in wood smoke?
>>I've never seen any credible evidence that this is true when
>>smoking with specific woods that are not chemically treated.
>
>
> On the surface of it, why would anyone think that there are toxins in
> tobacco smoke ? It's a plant -can't get more natural than that, right ?
>

I don't get it. Where did I say anything about "natural"? What I
said was I've never seen evidence that there are toxins in wood
smoke. If you find any please pass it on.


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Yeh Steve, that's what I say. What's all this got to
do with cooking good grub? Something is going to
kill you. Maybe it'll be old age.Maybe it'll be something
else. In any case you don't have anythng to say about
it.

M&M

Mark, I just posted a msg that said more or less the
same thing. I'm 67 and 'Hound' died at 52. Go figure.
I doubt that Hound violated more health rules that I
have.

M&M

In article >,
lid says...
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:45:20 GMT, Mark
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> says...
> >> On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 20:16:32 GMT, Mark
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Not to be all alarmist or anything, but does anyone know of any research
> >> >in to the long-term effects of eating smoked food ?
> >>
> >> Look up "carcinogens meat".
> >>
> >> The first few articles are how to lower the carcinigens. Olive
> >> oil is supposed to be a good carcinogen inhibitor. Rub or marnite
> >> in that first.
> >
> >Interesting, but still not smoke-related.
>
> Huh?
>
> Now you're just trolling.

Woah....hang-on there friend. Just because you're not following my
thought process (or perhaps I'm not explaining it well) is no reason to
jump to (false) conclusions.

I suspected that asking this may have led down this path.

Forget it, I'm sorry I ever mentioned it.

Peace, love & BBQ

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