I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?

I'm serious. This is the first holiday season of my life that
I'd be happiest just skipping. Going into a coma until New Year's
Day would be ideal, but I don't know how to arrange that.

I thought of something along the lines of running off to Vegas, but
I have an elderly dog at home and no sitter for her, so I have to
stay in the Dallas area.

I don't want any sympathy, either. I'm not looking for anyone to
blow any sunshine up my dress; everybody has good times and bad
times during their lives. This is just one of those bad times for
me and I'm wondering if anyone has any appropriate suggestions for
the holidays, food-and-celebration-wise.

Thanks.

Note: this was crossposted to dfw.eats, alt.food.barbecue, and
rec.food.cooking. I've set followups to rec.food.cooking, because
it's the most general of the three -- and I suspect others out
there may also benefit from the responses.

--
Mark Shaw contact info at homepage --> http://www.panix.com/~mshaw
================================================== ======================
"How can any culture that has more lawyers
than butchers call itself a civilization?" - Alton Brown

(Mark Shaw) wrote:
> [ . . . ]I'm wondering if anyone has any appropriate suggestions for
> the holidays, food-and-celebration-wise.
>
Mark, I'm sorry to hear that this has not been a good year for ya. Lawrence
Welk once said during a rehearsal, "There are times and there are times.
And this is one of them." Stiff upper lip and all that, pal. Stay home with
yer dog, yer only true friend. Buy a case of yer favorite booze, then don't
drive. Stay home, stay drunk on yer ass 'til the holidays are over, then
e-mail me and tell me I'm a moron!

--
Nick, Retired in the San Fernando Valley www.boonchoo.com
"Giving violent criminals a government guarantee that their intended
victims are defenseless is bad public policy."
- John Ross, "Unintended Consequences"

On 13 Nov 2003 00:18:55 -0500, (Mark Shaw) wrote:

>I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
>be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
>and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
>out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?

Same advice I just gave someone in r.f.c:

Swansons Hungry Man Turkey Dinner ($2.29), a fifth of bourbon (get the
cheap stuff - $8), and a hooker ($20-$50).

-sw

Mark Shaw wrote:
> I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
> be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
> and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
> out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?

Sit on the couch in your underwear, watch football, drink beer and whiskey.

That worked for me before I got married. And I still have a shitty
attitude. I am a grumpy old man at 24.

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/

Steve Wertz wrote:
> Swansons Hungry Man Turkey Dinner ($2.29), a fifth of bourbon (get the
> cheap stuff - $8), and a hooker ($20-$50).

Why stop at a fifth?

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:18:14 -0600, John Gaughan
> wrote:

>Steve Wertz wrote:
>> Swansons Hungry Man Turkey Dinner ($2.29), a fifth of bourbon (get the
>> cheap stuff - $8), and a hooker ($20-$50).
>
>Why stop at a fifth?

While I personally can drink a liter in a night, most people can't ;-)

-sw

On 13 Nov 2003 00:18:55 -0500, (Mark Shaw) wrote:

>I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
>be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
>and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
>out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?

1) Thanksgiving is an incredible time to avoid crowds since everyone
is at home with huge groups of others. If you're into Camping or
Hiking, go to Big Bend. It's AWESOME this time of year. If you're
not up for a big hike, just car camp in the Chisos Basin. Make sure
to take a day-hike to the Hot Springs near Boquillas and melt your
cares away.

2) The day after Thanksgiving is International Buy Nothing Day. It is
the biggest shopping day of the year. So celebrate Buy Nothing day by
not shopping.

3) Masturbate

--------------
Steve Silberberg

Read "We'll Kiss For Food"
http://www.kissforfood.com/

Mark Shaw wrote:
> I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
> be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
> and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
> out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?
>
> I'm serious. This is the first holiday season of my life that
> I'd be happiest just skipping. Going into a coma until New Year's
> Day would be ideal, but I don't know how to arrange that.
>
> I thought of something along the lines of running off to Vegas, but
> I have an elderly dog at home and no sitter for her, so I have to
> stay in the Dallas area.
>
> I don't want any sympathy, either. I'm not looking for anyone to
> blow any sunshine up my dress; everybody has good times and bad
> times during their lives. This is just one of those bad times for
> me and I'm wondering if anyone has any appropriate suggestions for
> the holidays, food-and-celebration-wise.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Note: this was crossposted to dfw.eats, alt.food.barbecue, and
> rec.food.cooking. I've set followups to rec.food.cooking, because
> it's the most general of the three -- and I suspect others out
> there may also benefit from the responses.
>

Too bad about the dog, because the Las Vegas trip sounds like just the
remedy. A close second might be to haul off a small grill and some food
and go camping for a long weekend with the dog, and prepare your own
mini-feast.

(Mark Shaw) wrote in message >...
> I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
> be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
> and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
> out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?
>
> I'm serious. This is the first holiday season of my life that
> I'd be happiest just skipping. Going into a coma until New Year's
> Day would be ideal, but I don't know how to arrange that.
>
> I thought of something along the lines of running off to Vegas, but
> I have an elderly dog at home and no sitter for her, so I have to
> stay in the Dallas area.
>
> I don't want any sympathy, either. I'm not looking for anyone to
> blow any sunshine up my dress; everybody has good times and bad
> times during their lives. This is just one of those bad times for
> me and I'm wondering if anyone has any appropriate suggestions for
> the holidays, food-and-celebration-wise.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Note: this was crossposted to dfw.eats, alt.food.barbecue, and
> rec.food.cooking. I've set followups to rec.food.cooking, because
> it's the most general of the three -- and I suspect others out
> there may also benefit from the responses.

Sorry if you've gotten this answer already, but...

Sounds like a good year to do a volunteer meal. Serve up some lunch
at a VA hospital or a soup kitchen or someplace like that.

Then go home and mark the day with some wild turkey.

Better luck next year. Sometimes you get the turkey, and sometimes
the turkey gets you.

Greg Zywicki

Steve Wertz wrote:
> On 13 Nov 2003 00:18:55 -0500, (Mark Shaw) wrote:
>
>
>>I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
>>be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
>>and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
>>out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?
>
>
> Same advice I just gave someone in r.f.c:
>
> Swansons Hungry Man Turkey Dinner ($2.29), a fifth of bourbon (get the
> cheap stuff - $8), and a hooker ($20-$50).
>
> -sw

What kind of hooker can you get for $20-$50? I'd say treat yourself to
something classier; maybe TWO Swansons Hungry Man Turkey Dinners.

Peg

"Mark Shaw" > wrote in message
...
> I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
> be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
> and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
> out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?
>
> I'm serious. This is the first holiday season of my life that
> I'd be happiest just skipping. Going into a coma until New Year's
> Day would be ideal, but I don't know how to arrange that.
>
> I thought of something along the lines of running off to Vegas, but
> I have an elderly dog at home and no sitter for her, so I have to
> stay in the Dallas area.
>
> I don't want any sympathy, either. I'm not looking for anyone to
> blow any sunshine up my dress; everybody has good times and bad
> times during their lives. This is just one of those bad times for
> me and I'm wondering if anyone has any appropriate suggestions for
> the holidays, food-and-celebration-wise.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Note: this was crossposted to dfw.eats, alt.food.barbecue, and
> rec.food.cooking. I've set followups to rec.food.cooking, because
> it's the most general of the three -- and I suspect others out
> there may also benefit from the responses.
>
> --

Mark, go to a local supplier and buy as many helium balloons as your vehicle
can hold and go to your local hospital childerns ward and hand them out to
the children. You should call in advance and see what is needed ( if
balloons are ok ) which would also let them know of your intended visit.
Make plans to eat out after the visit or have something easy planned to have
at home . Get a few good movies and enjoy. I guarentee the hospital visit
will change your disposition . I have worked in hospitals for 10 years and I
know you would really brighten the childrens day and put a bright spot in
this year for you.

peace,
Barbara





> Mark Shaw contact info at homepage --> http://www.panix.com/~mshaw
> ================================================== ======================
> "How can any culture that has more lawyers
> than butchers call itself a civilization?" - Alton Brown

(Mark Shaw) wrote in message >...
> I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
> be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
> and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
> out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?
>

What you need is a few pints of my Cranberry Vanilla Dunkelweizen, OR
the spiced Scotch Ale (old Routh Street Brewery recipe - sshhhh don't
tell) I just brewed up.

I don't know your condition, but being in the Software business I can
certainly empathize considering I lost my business and house this
year. At least I still have all my limbs, and I doubt the IRS will
show up and gun me down in the Snuffer's parking lot but you never
know.

_Randal

Randal Chapman wrote:
>
> (Mark Shaw) wrote in message

> > I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
> > be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
> > and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
> > out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?

I know you don't want to hear it, but I'm sorry you've had such a
bad time. Personally, I ignore most holidays, except it's usually
the only time I get to see my family all together. I show up at
some major holiday maybe once or twice a year.

Make yourself something nice and don't hang around mad about your
troubles. Go for a hike or something.

> I don't know your condition, but being in the Software business I can
> certainly empathize considering I lost my business and house this
> year. At least I still have all my limbs, and I doubt the IRS will
> show up and gun me down in the Snuffer's parking lot but you never
> know.

And Randal, I'm sorry that happened to you, too. Geez.

nancy

(Mark Shaw) wrote in message >...
> I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
> be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
> and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
> out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?

- I like the balloon idea. Generally, the best way to cheer yourself
up is to try and cheer someone else up. Assuming you want to be
cheered up.

- If you don't want cheering up, go with the booze suggestions. Wallow
in it.

- I you just want some distraction, go on a reading binge. Go and
re-read some of the books you liked as a teenager. Read George
Macdonald Frasers "Flashman" series. Or good escapist stuff, like
Wilbur Smith (When the Lion Feeds, The Sound of Thunder", etc), Robert
Ruark (Poor No More, The Honey Badger, etc). Harper Lee "to Kill a
Mockingbird". Mark Twain. Find some of the classics you always meant
to read. The list is endless.... (But avoid the Russians ;-)


/S

On 13 Nov 2003 00:18:55 -0500, (Mark Shaw) wrote:

>I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
>be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
>and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
>out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?

Volunteer to help cook and serve Thanksgiving dinner at a shelter or a
retirement home.


--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

Peggy > wrote:
> Steve Wertz wrote:
> > []
> > Swansons Hungry Man Turkey Dinner ($2.29), a fifth of bourbon (get the
> > cheap stuff - $8), and a hooker ($20-$50).
> >
> > -sw
>
> What kind of hooker can you get for $20-$50? I'd say treat yourself to
> something classier; maybe TWO Swansons Hungry Man Turkey Dinners.
>
Methinks Steve's age is showing. Not only didja use to be able to get some
fine hookers for $20 to $50, fifty years ago, but that was when they still
sold whiskey in 'fifths'! Now all I see are 750 ml or 1.75 litre bottles.
And the idea of hookers today scares the hell out of me.

--
Nick, Retired in the San Fernando Valley www.boonchoo.com
"Giving violent criminals a government guarantee that their intended
victims are defenseless is bad public policy."
- John Ross, "Unintended Consequences"

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:12:35 -0500, Peggy
> wrote:

>Steve Wertz wrote:

>> Swansons Hungry Man Turkey Dinner ($2.29), a fifth of bourbon (get the
>> cheap stuff - $8), and a hooker ($20-$50).

>What kind of hooker can you get for $20-$50?

The Surf & Turf special will, of course, cost more.

ObFood: Spotted Dick

-sw

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

> (Mark Shaw) wrote in message >...
>
>>I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
>>be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
>>and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
>>out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?
>
>
> - I like the balloon idea. Generally, the best way to cheer yourself
> up is to try and cheer someone else up. Assuming you want to be
> cheered up.
>
> - If you don't want cheering up, go with the booze suggestions. Wallow
> in it.
>
> - I you just want some distraction, go on a reading binge. Go and
> re-read some of the books you liked as a teenager. Read George
> Macdonald Frasers "Flashman" series. Or good escapist stuff, like
> Wilbur Smith (When the Lion Feeds, The Sound of Thunder", etc), Robert
> Ruark (Poor No More, The Honey Badger, etc). Harper Lee "to Kill a
> Mockingbird". Mark Twain. Find some of the classics you always meant
> to read. The list is endless.... (But avoid the Russians ;-)
>
>
> /S


My warped dyslexia just read your last line as "the end is listless."
Hmmmm. That's depressing. . .

WTF, cheers anyway!

Peg

Thanks for all the suggestions -- both the serious and not-so-
serious ones. I particularly like the ones involving volun-
teering, but the unserious ones gave me a good laugh.

I'll think about them, and if I come up with anything interesting
will let y'all know.

BTW, it appears I screwed up on setting my followups. Sorry
about that.

--
Mark Shaw contact info at homepage --> http://www.panix.com/~mshaw
================================================== ======================
"How can any culture that has more lawyers
than butchers call itself a civilization?" - Alton Brown

"Mark Shaw" > wrote in message
...
> I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
> be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
> and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
> out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?

You have choices to make. Go on the way you are, or make it different.

Want to compare years? Lose your job? Lose a family member? Financial
problems? Health concerns? We've all had them, sometimes in the same week.
I have found though, that my darkest days wee still better than some people
can ever hope to achieve.

Need some serious help? Don't ask the guy that has plenty of money and seems
to be on top of the world, real help comes from real people that have been
in your situation. Those that have little are more willing to share than
those that "have it all"

Get your mind off the downers, get out of the house and mingle with people
that don't give a crap about you. Why? Because they will just carry on as
the world should and not let you feel sorry for yourself. The problem with
a pity part is that you get to do it yourself; no one will show up to help
you.

So, get your ass out of the house and do something for someone. Rake the
leaves for the old couple down the street. Your life will improve
immediately.
Ed

On 13 Nov 2003 00:18:55 -0500, (Mark Shaw) wrote:

> I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
> be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
> and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
> out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?
>
> I'm serious. This is the first holiday season of my life that
> I'd be happiest just skipping. Going into a coma until New Year's
> Day would be ideal, but I don't know how to arrange that.
>
> I thought of something along the lines of running off to Vegas, but
> I have an elderly dog at home and no sitter for her, so I have to
> stay in the Dallas area.
>
> I don't want any sympathy, either. I'm not looking for anyone to
> blow any sunshine up my dress; everybody has good times and bad
> times during their lives. This is just one of those bad times for
> me and I'm wondering if anyone has any appropriate suggestions for
> the holidays, food-and-celebration-wise.

My dad died in May, 2002, and we weren't thankful for anything on
Thanksgiving. My mom didn't make T'giving dinner, we didn't get
together, nothing. My husband and I stayed home, watched football,
and ate pasta in red sauce with meatballs. We did go out to lunch
with my mom on Sunday, a few days later, though. No one ordered
turkey.

You can just bag the whole day. It helps to like football.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

On 13 Nov 2003 19:44:15 GMT, wrote:

>Methinks Steve's age is showing. Not only didja use to be able to get some
>fine hookers for $20 to $50, fifty years ago,

Current going rate for street hookers is $20 for a BJ, $50 for strait
sex. Special requests will cost extra. Back in your day you probably
didn't have crack cocaine. Street sex is cheap because of it.

>but that was when they still
>sold whiskey in 'fifths'! Now all I see are 750 ml or 1.75 litre bottles.

I thought a fifth was 750ml. In liquor stores that have the stuff
behind a counter, asking for a ffth always produces a 750ml bottle.
You forgot about the 1-liter bottles, as well (for those of us who
have graduated from fifths).

>And the idea of hookers today scares the hell out of me.

It should. It's a scary underworld.

-sw

>On 13 Nov 2003 00:18:55 -0500, (Mark Shaw) wrote:

>> I don't want any sympathy, either. I'm not looking for anyone to
>> blow any sunshine up my dress; everybody has good times and bad
>> times during their lives. This is just one of those bad times for
>> me and I'm wondering if anyone has any appropriate suggestions for
>> the holidays, food-and-celebration-wise.

<snip>

Prozac.

Bruce

In article >,
"Z GIRL" > wrote:

> "Mark Shaw" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
> > be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
> > and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
> > out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?
> >
> > I'm serious. This is the first holiday season of my life that
> > I'd be happiest just skipping. Going into a coma until New Year's
> > Day would be ideal, but I don't know how to arrange that.
> >
> > I thought of something along the lines of running off to Vegas, but
> > I have an elderly dog at home and no sitter for her, so I have to
> > stay in the Dallas area.
> >
> > I don't want any sympathy, either. I'm not looking for anyone to
> > blow any sunshine up my dress; everybody has good times and bad
> > times during their lives. This is just one of those bad times for
> > me and I'm wondering if anyone has any appropriate suggestions for
> > the holidays, food-and-celebration-wise.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Note: this was crossposted to dfw.eats, alt.food.barbecue, and
> > rec.food.cooking. I've set followups to rec.food.cooking, because
> > it's the most general of the three -- and I suspect others out
> > there may also benefit from the responses.
> >
> > --
>
> Mark, go to a local supplier and buy as many helium balloons as your vehicle
> can hold and go to your local hospital childerns ward and hand them out to
> the children. You should call in advance and see what is needed ( if
> balloons are ok ) which would also let them know of your intended visit.
> Make plans to eat out after the visit or have something easy planned to have
> at home . Get a few good movies and enjoy. I guarentee the hospital visit
> will change your disposition . I have worked in hospitals for 10 years and I
> know you would really brighten the childrens day and put a bright spot in
> this year for you.
>
Balloons are often NOT good for childrens' hospitals, due to the risk of
latex allergies. Mylar balloons are okay, AFAIK.

Mark, I know of a petsitter in Dallas who might be available over the
holidays. If you email me, I can give you her name. We used her
several times when we lived in Dallas and were very impressed.

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Return address to the present tense to email me

"Fifth" is a fifth of a gallon and not available in US anymore.

HTH,

Tom
"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
> On 13 Nov 2003 19:44:15 GMT, wrote:
>
> >Methinks Steve's age is showing. Not only didja use to be able to
get some
> >fine hookers for $20 to $50, fifty years ago,
>
> Current going rate for street hookers is $20 for a BJ, $50 for
strait
> sex. Special requests will cost extra. Back in your day you
probably
> didn't have crack cocaine. Street sex is cheap because of it.
>
> >but that was when they still
> >sold whiskey in 'fifths'! Now all I see are 750 ml or 1.75 litre
bottles.
>
> I thought a fifth was 750ml. In liquor stores that have the stuff
> behind a counter, asking for a ffth always produces a 750ml bottle.
> You forgot about the 1-liter bottles, as well (for those of us who
> have graduated from fifths).
>
> >And the idea of hookers today scares the hell out of me.
>
> It should. It's a scary underworld.
>
> -sw

> You can just bag the whole day. It helps to like football.

Unless you're a Lions fan. They aren't even on TV locally, most years. That
means I have to watch Dallas, which isn't quite so bad the last couple
years. :-))))

John O

"Cindy Fuller" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Z GIRL" > wrote:
>
> > "Mark Shaw" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
> > > be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
> > > and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
> > > out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?
> > >
> > > I'm serious. This is the first holiday season of my life that
> > > I'd be happiest just skipping. Going into a coma until New Year's
> > > Day would be ideal, but I don't know how to arrange that.
> > >
> > > I thought of something along the lines of running off to Vegas, but
> > > I have an elderly dog at home and no sitter for her, so I have to
> > > stay in the Dallas area.
> > >
> > > I don't want any sympathy, either. I'm not looking for anyone to
> > > blow any sunshine up my dress; everybody has good times and bad
> > > times during their lives. This is just one of those bad times for
> > > me and I'm wondering if anyone has any appropriate suggestions for
> > > the holidays, food-and-celebration-wise.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Note: this was crossposted to dfw.eats, alt.food.barbecue, and
> > > rec.food.cooking. I've set followups to rec.food.cooking, because
> > > it's the most general of the three -- and I suspect others out
> > > there may also benefit from the responses.
> > >
> > > --
> >
> > Mark, go to a local supplier and buy as many helium balloons as your
vehicle
> > can hold and go to your local hospital childerns ward and hand them out
to
> > the children. You should call in advance and see what is needed ( if
> > balloons are ok ) which would also let them know of your intended
visit.
> > Make plans to eat out after the visit or have something easy planned to
have
> > at home . Get a few good movies and enjoy. I guarentee the hospital
visit
> > will change your disposition . I have worked in hospitals for 10 years
and I
> > know you would really brighten the childrens day and put a bright spot
in
> > this year for you.
> >
> Balloons are often NOT good for childrens' hospitals, due to the risk of
> latex allergies. Mylar balloons are okay, AFAIK.
>

We have NEVER refused Balloons of any sort and we have NEVER had a problem.
Although the latex allergy exist many people ( especially in the medical
field) are actually allergic or sensitive to the powder in gloves and "self
diagnois" that they are allergic. If in fact they were tested the " true
allergic "
numbers would be drastically lower.
Some of the children are to sick to do more than observe a balloon tied to
their bed rail, but we see the smiles.
btw any contributions are appreciated, Crayons, Coloring books, Paint with
water books, Toys for the play room, books..... you get the Idea .

peace,
Barbara




> Mark, I know of a petsitter in Dallas who might be available over the
> holidays. If you email me, I can give you her name. We used her
> several times when we lived in Dallas and were very impressed.
>
> Cindy
>
> --
> C.J. Fuller
>
> Return address to the present tense to email me

"Greg Zywicki" > wrote in message
om...
> Sorry if you've gotten this answer already, but...
>
> Sounds like a good year to do a volunteer meal. Serve up some lunch
> at a VA hospital or a soup kitchen or someplace like that.

I was gonna post the same thing. When I was a new nurse, I always got stuck
working the holidays. It was soooo depressing. One year, I worked every
single holiday. I would always remind myself that people are sick 24/7 365
days a year and it shouldn't require a special day to appreciate my family
but the little Merry Sunshine routine grew old and I could really feel sorry
for myself being away from my families on holidays.

I cannot tell you how good it made all of the staff feel when someone, a
doc, a family member of a patient, etc., was good enough to bring us food.
Even bad food was appreciated because it meant we weren't forgotten. Good
food was like manna from the heavens. The other thing to remember is that
holidays are very stressful for the elderly so CCU's and general med floors
fill up very quickly. It is entirely possible to work 12 hours with no
break whatsoever. Nurses who had great plans for the holidays are called in
because of increased census. Many times, nurses get pulled to floors or
units that they aren't familiar with and thus, they aren't even spending the
day with their work buddies.

j
>
> Then go home and mark the day with some wild turkey.
>
> Better luck next year. Sometimes you get the turkey, and sometimes
> the turkey gets you.
>
> Greg Zywicki

It is said we make our own luck... My suggestion is ....
WALK to the nearest soup kitchen in your city and VOLUNTEER to help
out on Thanksgiving day...then DO IT.. Give your old dog to a
neighbor.. she will likely be grateful...





On 13 Nov 2003 00:18:55 -0500, (Mark Shaw) wrote:

>I have had an extremely ****ed-up year, and have very little to
>be thankful for. I'm certainly not going to invite anyone over
>and put out a Thanksgiving spread, but I don't really want to go
>out anywhere, either -- any suggestions?
>
>I'm serious. This is the first holiday season of my life that
>I'd be happiest just skipping. Going into a coma until New Year's
>Day would be ideal, but I don't know how to arrange that.
>
>I thought of something along the lines of running off to Vegas, but
>I have an elderly dog at home and no sitter for her, so I have to
>stay in the Dallas area.
>
>I don't want any sympathy, either. I'm not looking for anyone to
>blow any sunshine up my dress; everybody has good times and bad
>times during their lives. This is just one of those bad times for
>me and I'm wondering if anyone has any appropriate suggestions for
>the holidays, food-and-celebration-wise.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Note: this was crossposted to dfw.eats, alt.food.barbecue, and
>rec.food.cooking. I've set followups to rec.food.cooking, because
>it's the most general of the three -- and I suspect others out
>there may also benefit from the responses.

I don't know about where anyone else lives, but the soup kitchens I
know of have to turn away volunteers on the holidays, too many people
show up.

nancy

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:57:20 -0600, "Z GIRL" >
wrote:

>We have NEVER refused Balloons of any sort and we have NEVER had a problem.

That may be the case where you work, but you won't get past the lobby
with anything other than a mylar balloon in both of the hospitals in
my town.


--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:24:12 -0600, "Z GIRL" >
wrote:

>I find that very odd. I have NEVER heard of security stopping anyone for
>bringing in a regular balloon.

Big signs in the lobby, listing items that can't go beyond the lobby,
with latex balloons being one of them.

>That being said anyone coming into pediatrics
>with balloons would be stopped at the nurses station and Believe me if a
>child had a reaction to latex it would be well know by then with all of the
>contact of the physicians and Nurses, Phlebotomist (etc, etc.) gloves.
>Oh do tell what town you live in?

Boise.

>I am in Michigan.

I don't think Michigan is a town. But I could be mistaken, as I've
only been to Canada twice.


--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

"Kevin S. Wilson" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:57:20 -0600, "Z GIRL" >
> wrote:
>
> >We have NEVER refused Balloons of any sort and we have NEVER had a
problem.
>
> That may be the case where you work, but you won't get past the lobby
> with anything other than a mylar balloon in both of the hospitals in
> my town.
>
>

I find that very odd. I have NEVER heard of security stopping anyone for
bringing in a regular balloon. That being said anyone coming into pediatrics
with balloons would be stopped at the nurses station and Believe me if a
child had a reaction to latex it would be well know by then with all of the
contact of the physicians and Nurses, Phlebotomist (etc, etc.) gloves.
Oh do tell what town you live in? I am in Michigan.

peace,
Barbara

> --
> Kevin S. Wilson
> Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
> "Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
> --Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:15:57 -0600, "TomD" > wrote:

>"Fifth" is a fifth of a gallon and not available in US anymore.

A fifth of a gallon is 757.08236 milliliters, though - pretty darn
close to 750ml.

-sw

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:34:57 -0600, "Z GIRL" >
wrote:

>
>"Kevin S. Wilson" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:24:12 -0600, "Z GIRL" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I find that very odd. I have NEVER heard of security stopping anyone for
>> >bringing in a regular balloon.
>>
>> Big signs in the lobby, listing items that can't go beyond the lobby,
>> with latex balloons being one of them.
>>
>Still find that hard to believe, but if you say sooooooooo........
>
Why would you find it hard to believe? I can't think of any reason I
would have to be less than truthful with you, and I can't think of any
reason why someone would post nonsense to Usenet in the hope that
others would believe it or would believe that the poster believes it.
In fact, I think people should check their facts before posting
nonsense to the USENET. I know I always do.

I haven't been to the hospitals in over a year, but I assure you the
signs were there. What would convince you? I have a digital camera,
but you'd probably say that I altered the images in PhotoPaint or
something.

>> >That being said anyone coming into pediatrics
>> >with balloons would be stopped at the nurses station and Believe me if a
>> >child had a reaction to latex it would be well know by then with all of
>the
>> >contact of the physicians and Nurses, Phlebotomist (etc, etc.) gloves.
>> >Oh do tell what town you live in?
>>
>> Boise.
>>
>> >I am in Michigan.
>>
>> I don't think Michigan is a town. But I could be mistaken, as I've
>> only been to Canada twice.
>>
>
> Did I ever say Michigan was a town?

Why, yes you did! You said, "Oh do tell what town you live in? I'm in
Michigan." That infers that you think MIchigan is a town.

> I thought you would be smart enough to
>know it is a State.

Remember, I'm the one who pointed out to you that it wasn't a town. I
didn't want to be rude, so I said "I don't think Michigan is a town."
But I really was quite certain, having driven through across it the
last time I was in Canada. (BTW, do you have counties there, or
parishes, or what?)

> Well now you know. Your welcome!
>
My welcome what?


--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

"Kevin S. Wilson" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:24:12 -0600, "Z GIRL" >
> wrote:
>
> >I find that very odd. I have NEVER heard of security stopping anyone for
> >bringing in a regular balloon.
>
> Big signs in the lobby, listing items that can't go beyond the lobby,
> with latex balloons being one of them.
>

Still find that hard to believe, but if you say sooooooooo........


> >That being said anyone coming into pediatrics
> >with balloons would be stopped at the nurses station and Believe me if a
> >child had a reaction to latex it would be well know by then with all of
the
> >contact of the physicians and Nurses, Phlebotomist (etc, etc.) gloves.
> >Oh do tell what town you live in?
>
> Boise.
>
> >I am in Michigan.
>
> I don't think Michigan is a town. But I could be mistaken, as I've
> only been to Canada twice.
>

Did I ever say Michigan was a town? I thought you would be smart enough to
know it is a State. Well now you know. Your welcome!

Peace,
Barbara




> --
> Kevin S. Wilson
> Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
> "Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
> --Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

In article >, Steve Wertz
> wrote:

> On 13 Nov 2003 19:44:15 GMT, wrote:
>
> >Methinks Steve's age is showing. Not only didja use to be able to get some
> >fine hookers for $20 to $50, fifty years ago,
>
> Current going rate for street hookers is $20 for a BJ, $50 for strait

Who wears the strait jacket, the hooker or the client?


:-)



> >but that was when they still
> >sold whiskey in 'fifths'! Now all I see are 750 ml or 1.75 litre bottles.
>
> I thought a fifth was 750ml. In liquor stores that have the stuff
> behind a counter, asking for a ffth always produces a 750ml bottle.


750 ml is .198 gallons, which is within 1% of being a fifth. And a quart
and a liter are also very close, so I would expect that if you asked for a
quart, the clerk would hand you a liter bottle.


The story I heard about booze being sold in fifths, was that a fifth of
wine was considered to be a good amount for two people.

--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:59:14 -0600, "Z GIRL" >
wrote:

>
>"Kevin S. Wilson" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:34:57 -0600, "Z GIRL" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Kevin S. Wilson" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> >> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:24:12 -0600, "Z GIRL" >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I find that very odd. I have NEVER heard of security stopping anyone
>for
>> >> >bringing in a regular balloon.
>> >>
>> >> Big signs in the lobby, listing items that can't go beyond the lobby,
>> >> with latex balloons being one of them.
>> >>
>> >Still find that hard to believe, but if you say sooooooooo........
>> >
>> Why would you find it hard to believe? I can't think of any reason I
>> would have to be less than truthful with you, and I can't think of any
>> reason why someone would post nonsense to Usenet in the hope that
>> others would believe it or would believe that the poster believes it.
>> In fact, I think people should check their facts before posting
>> nonsense to the USENET. I know I always do.
>
>Calm Down.........

I'm calm. What makes you think I'm not calm?

>The protocols where you live must be different.

That's the understatement of the year. I can't think of too many
things more different than the US health-care system and the Canadian
health-care system.

> We do not have that policy
>here but If that is the case where you live then like I said there are
>sooooo many things that Pediatrics can use and would appreciate. It would
>be benefical for The O.P to call Pediatric's and ask what they may need
>with in his budget. ( The call would cover the Balloon issue.)

Excellent suggestions.

BTW, you snipped out the part of my post inquiring about whether you
call them counties, or parsishes, or what in Canada. I'm just glad you
didn't pounce on my stupid statement earlier, in which I referred to
Michigan as a state, rather than a province. I don't know what I was
thinking. Not enough coffee, I guess.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"You can safely ignore Kevin in order to
maximise life's experience." --A. Loon, in alt.religion.kibology

Kevin S. Wilson > wrote in message
...
>
> Why, yes you did! You said, "Oh do tell what town you live in? I'm in
> Michigan." That infers that you think MIchigan is a town.

<throat-clearing sounds>

Actually, knowing how exacting you are about language usage, I'm sure you
meant to say "that implies that you think Michigan is a town". To which she
would perhaps reply "you inferred that I think Michigan is a town".

Would this be an appropriate point to drop the name of the town Michigan
City, Indiana?

No need to thank me. <g>

Oh, to get on-topic: I went to my local lump purveyor today. I arrived
while the management was out to lunch and the office was being "run" by two
guys from the warehouse. Said I wanted five 20 pound bags. Paid for five
20 pound bags. The guy brings a hand truck out to my car. I'm a bit
distracted and puzzled that it seems a tighter fit than usual. When I get
home I notice that he brought out five 40 pound bags.

So, I'm left with this moral dilemma: do it make another 35 mile round-trip
to correct the error? I'm thinking I probably won't. I'll just have to
hope that the local supreme being was as distracted as I.

Oh yeah, stopped on the way home and picked up four butts totaling 33
pounds.

--
TFM3

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Nancy Young > wrote in message
...
>
> I don't know about where anyone else lives, but the soup kitchens I
> know of have to turn away volunteers on the holidays, too many people
> show up.
>
> nancy

Too many on the holidays and not enough the rest of the time.

TFM3

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