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![]() "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote in message ... > In , > RegForte > typed: >> Jay Smith wrote: >> >>> I know this is not a BBQ question but I lurk here and there is so >>> much food knowledge. >>> >>> I grilled some Johnsonville sausages the other night. There were 2 >>> that were not eaten. My daughter wanted to save them but just put >>> them back in the zip-lock bag they came in (which was not washed or >>> rinsed in any way). >>> >>> So my possibly stupid question is since they are pork would I need to >>> re-heat them to a certain temperature for them to be safe? >> >> Pork is not an issue here. Pork is no more susceptible to bacteria >> than any other type of meat once it's been cooked. >> >> Though most official recommendations for cooked meat shelf life is >> 2-3 days, I think that's too conservative, and one can't help >> but think lawyers are involved in coming up with such conservative >> figures. I have no problem keeping cooked meat for up to 5 days in >> the fridge. >> >> Throwing out meat just because it was cooked a few days ago is >> just a waste of food. >> >> I also feel the need to add... if you do have reason to believe food >> may be spoiled, reheating doesn't necessarily solve the problem. Even >> if you kill the bacteria, you won't necessarily destroy the endotoxins >> that some bacteria leave behind unless you cook it the the point >> that it's no longer recognizable as food. Recooking is not a >> magic bullet. > > Thank you for posting that. I have tried many times to convince people > that > they cannot unspoil food by cooking it. You might kill harmful bacteria > but > you can't unchange the chemical byproducts of bacterial activity. You > wouldn't put a toxic chemical in a hamburger and expect cooking would make > it safe to eat. If it's not alive, you can't kill it. > > I know one fellow who thinks deep frying is the thing to do with food that > is on the edge of spoiling. He firmly believes that 375 degree oil will > fix > anything. I love fried food but I avoid it at his house. > > OTOH I agree with you about the fact that the rules on keeping raw and > cooked food are pretty conservative. But those rules have to take into > account variations in habits, refrigerators, and intelligence, so I > understand why the rules are written the way they are written. I tend to > go > by nose, by color, by feel, and by common sense, as well as age of the > food. Interesting. The last food service management class I took (2008) the instructor stated that if it smells bad, it probally won't hurt you. Apparently, the real nasties don't have an appearance / odor signature. That's what makes then really dangerous. I still wouldn't eat/serve anything with a funky smell. (Unlike my Father, who lived through the depression. He would eat sh!t that he KNEW would make him sick. In the name of not wasting it.) > For example, if meat has been in a cooler with ice which has melted and > had > more added several times while out in the summer heat, and the meat has a > slimy feel or off odor, then even if the package date said it was stlll > good > I would toss it. > > MartyB in KC > |
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