> Based on my limited kit wine experience, I'm with Bill on this one,
> but I am lucky in that I have an easy access to great quality grapes.
> In your situation, I'd probably give it another try but with a high
> end kit - Vintner's Reserve is pretty basic. Even better, if you can
> sample the finished product that would give you a good idea what to
> expect - the BOP stores here in Canada cannot serve samples but from
> what I've heard that's generally not the case in the US.

That's a great suggestion. I order my kits online though, so I don't really
have the opportunity to sample. There is one place that sells the kits
locally. I visited the store since it's primarily a homebrew store which is
my real passion. The storage practices appauled me and the owner was
extremely arrogant so I made the decision that I can't support it and will
order online or drive to Denver. Hmm... maybe that's what I'll do is hit up
the local places in Denver and sample.

I will take note that Vintner's Reserve is basic. That could simply be it
right there. So far it seems like the general direction is to buy a better
(or different) yeast, sample the kit before buying, and buy a better juice
kit.


> I will keep trying every 2-3 years or so in the hopes the quality will
> get there - the variety of wines one can get out of kits is pretty
> much unbeatable in scope. And you can make them all year round.

I'm not sure i understand your point. Are you saying I should let the wine
age 2-3 years and try at that interval?

Scott