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"DaleW" > wrote:

> Mark,
> Claret-styled zin is a rather inexact concept, but to me it means not
> as fruit forward, less brawny, less noticable new oak, yet with some
> structure. The producers I can think of who tend to get it right (for
> my tastes) are ones like Dashe and Nalle, where they go for a
> restrained style, yet are relatively faithful to the character of the
> grape (you might include some of the Ridges,even). As opposed to the
> big Baile/Renwood GrandPere style or superripe Turley or the light
> fruity styled ones. There are wines I find attractive in most styles,
> and ones I find unattractive in all styles.
> Did you like Storybook? Never tried that I can remember
>
> Mark Lipton wrote:
> >
> > Can you give a few examples of this style? To me, the most Claret-like
> > Zin I can think of is probably made by Storybook Mountain, but I happen
> > to quite like it. Perhaps you're thinking of a different style, though.
> >

I'm not a fan of any of these wines to date. They seem to embrace the
worst of Zindandel and Cabernet and come out very harsh and unappealing
to me even when Ridge does it.