Monkkey's screeching retarded bitch wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:12:09 +0000, chico chupacabra wrote:
>
>> some Monkkey's Bitch wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:35:20 +0000, Mr. Know-Ii-All wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have your solution:
>>>> www.orthorexia.com
>>>
>>> It mus 1277 messageb 9 0 904 904 796 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00
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t be nice to know it all. Some people become vegan after
>>> consulting with their primary care physician, their cardiologist and
>>> their gastroenterologist for valid medical reasons.
>>
>> False. Medical professionals generally don't recommend veganism, which is
>> an austere and extreme brand of vegetarianism that's predicated purely on
>> a political -- NOT MEDICAL, NOT SCIENTIFIC, NOT NUTRITIONAL -- premise,
>> to their patients. Few doctors will even recommend vegetarianism, you
>> pathetic little pansy. There are very few "valid medical reasons" for
>> vegetarianism (certainly not enough to justify the number of people who
>> are presently vegetarian), and zero "valid medical reasons" for veganism,
>> which is politically-, not medically-, oriented.
>
> Your the one who is false.

No, what I wrote in my reply is true. What you've written isn't.

> Since I went on my "vegan" diet for non
> political reasons (this is why I don't want to be associated with vegan
> weirdos) my blood pressure has gone down by 25%,

Anecdotal. Research shows that diets which include certain meats can
significantly reduce blood pressure.

> my cholosterol levels
> have gone down by 50%

Anecdotal. Research shows that diets which include certain meats can
significantly reduce serum cholesterol. It isn't meat or even dietary
cholesterol which impacts serum cholesterol anyway, it's the balance of
fats in one's diet: saturated fats elevate both HDL and LDL,
monounsaturated fats elevate HDL and reduce LDL, and transfats elevate LDL
while suppressing HDL. Generally speaking, dietary cholesterol reduction
translates to serum cholesterol reduction only when the ratio of fats shift
to favor an increase in HDL, a reduction in LDL, or both.

If serum cholesterol were directly related to dietary cholesterol, doctors
wouldn't recommend oily cold-water fish because they're high in
cholesterol. But consuming those high-cholesterol fish (and wild game,
grass-fed beef and lamb, etc.) helps reduce serum cholesterol. How? Fat
profile. The fat in the fish elevates HDL, which in turn helps reduce LDL.

Search google groups for "author:usual serum cholesterol fats" for links to
relevant medical (Mayo, etc.) sites in support of my claims. I've already
addressed the issue plenty of times, and google has done a fine job of
saving my work for posterity. You should be grateful, even though I suspect
you'll continue being an ingrate who won't even bother learning about the
subject instead of your own anecdotes.

> and my GERD symptoms have gone down by over 90%.

GERD can be alleviated with diets which include meat, too.

> You see, I do have valid medical reasons.

No, veganism isn't medically indicated for the reasons you've provided.

> Of course, you don't care about
> the facts,

Actually, I do, which is why I bothered replying. Asshole.

> just about your self-important opinion.

Find me one study or medical text book that advises veganism as a solution
to the problems you listed. You won't because you can't. Veganism is
peddled as solutions for those problems and every other ill under the sun,
but only through advocacy, not science. You're too ****ing stupid to
understand the difference.

> Before popping off at
> the mouth, check out the facts of the case.

I did. Now go find some scientific evidence to support your claim that
veganism is medically relevant to the issues you raised. Not your worthless
anecdotes (because I can find plenty of people who've reversed the same
conditions you claim to have via diets that still include meat, eggs, and
dairy), but the fruit of real scientific, medical research.