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cricket wrote:
> you generally confuse me.


Tell me specifically what confuses you.

> I am trying to find the nugget of truths in your
> comments


It's easier than you suggest.

> and it seems that no matter what anyone has said you have to
> nay-say.


No, not true.

> I said that you were right and that it is improbable that you could
> hydrogenate oils in your kitchen frying pan.


That isn't what you said. You may have *thought* that, but you wrote,
"he is kinda right." I didn't know if you meant that I'm "kinda right"
or if the Bumbling Twit is. I assumed the latter. I apologize if you
meant I'm right -- and there's no "kinda" about it.

> I realize that you are the
> village rabble rouser


No. I just insist that people be honest about things. That's all.

> and sometimes I think that you may have a point


Just sometimes?

> but then you confuse me.


I can only help clear things up if you tell me what's confusing you.

> it is probably just me,


Miscommunication is always possible here, just as I'd assumed you meant
Bob was "kinda right" when he was completely wrong.

> I am a simple farm girl from
> Quebec, we are esily confused.


Tip: Ask questions when something confuses you.

> (and in reference to my inability to spell, yes I think I am hot)


Do other people agree with you about that?

>>>he is kinda right.

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>>No, he isn't. His article was about transfats. It wasn't about how oils
>>breakdown in heat. His article had nothing to do with what he said about
>>heating oil. I was correcting his mistake -- common among vegans and
>>other nitwits -- that heating turns common vegetable oils into transfats.
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>>>i have also heard that heating oils too high can produce carcinogens.

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>>Not quite accurate, and overheating oil isn't the only way to cause
>>problems. Using rancid oils is just as unhealthy. The primary issue with
>>lipids, though, is creating an environment for free radicals. Free
>>radicals cause a variety of damage through oxidation, which can lead to
>>cancer, heart attacks, etc.
>>
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>>>i don't know if that is true or not.

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>>Like I said, not quite.
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>>>and anyway, the sun is a carcinogen.

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>>Too much sun is a danger, but so is too little. Don't throw the baby out
>>with the bathwater. That's one of the dangers vegan activists fall into
>>-- that because too much of something is bad, therefore any of it is bad.
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>>>the thing that you need to know about hydrognated oils and fats is that
>>>hydrognation changes the molecular structure and our bodies don't like

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>>>new shape and can't sucessfully use them.

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>>That, too, is not quite right. The body is able to use transfats just as
>>it uses other fats. The problem with them is that they suppress HDL, the
>>good cholesterol, and elevate LDL.
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>>>you don't have to worry about this
>>>if you are using cold pressed oils.

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>>Nonsense. Monounsaturated oils lower LDL and elevate HDL. This is
>>beneficial in moderating serum cholesterol levels.
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>>>because oils can be extracted using
>>>chemicals and alchol which i have read leave traces in the oil.

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>>That's BS. Solvents used for extracting oils (usually hexane) are
>>removed by heating the oil. Pseudoscientific ninnies object to that
>>heating, but it's within ~100 degrees F of the temperatures reached in
>>mechanical (not so cold in reality) pressing.
>>
>>
>>>just use the
>>>good stuff and stay away from anything that you can't tell what it is

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>>>everyone will be O.K.

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>>That's not the best of advice.
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>>>this is also why i am a little leary of splenda which is altered sugar.

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>>Why would that make you leary? I'm sure you eat processed foods of some
>>sort. Those are all altered in varying degrees. Everything around you is
>>"altered."

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