On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:07:17 -1000, "Laurie" > wrote:

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>"usual suspect" > wrote in message
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>>> Considering that we are frugivorous apes,
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>> No, we're omnivores. So are most other apes.
> Humans are CULTURAL omnivores. only because of tool use, unable to kill
>and eat their corpses RAW like ALL natural omnivores.
> Go kill and eat a stray cat, raw, with your natural biological
>equipment, and you will see just how much of an "omnivore" you really are.
>However, gutless cowards do not have the courage of their convictions.
> Try to come up with a rigorous physiological/biochemical definition of
>"omnivore"; you can not!
>
>> Chimps eat meat.
> -Some- chimps eat flesh, not meat, -some- times, and the practice is
>clearly a cultural, not a nutritional, one, because sexual favors are traded
>for flesh, just like in human dating.
>www.ecologos.org/chimphunt.htm
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[...]
In the American Scientist article, Stanford describes witnessing the largest massacre
ever documented at Gombe. Two hunting parties with a total of 33 chimps - two of
them swollen females - converged on a group of 25 colobus monkeys. The male chimps
chased and shook the monkeys from trees, eventually killing seven. Before Stanford's
eyes, a large male chimp plucked a baby monkey from a branch and "dispatched it with
a bite to the skull." The chimp then approached a swollen female with the carcass,
dangling it just out of her reach until she presented her swelling. Only after copulation
did the male share his food.

"An important issue today in human male-female relationships is control," Stanford said.
"What we're seeing is the evolutionary roots of this kind of mutual attempt to manipulate
and control. Male chimps are using meat to control female behavior and female chimps
are making use of their reproductive system to get meat."
[...]
http://www.usc.edu/ext-relations/new...tml/chimp.html
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