In article >, steve.slatcher@pobox
..com says...
>
>On 22 Feb 2005 22:32:40 GMT, (Hunt) wrote:
>
>>In article >, says...
>>>
>>>Dear All,
>>>I am new here. Enjoy drinking good wine once in a while and since I am
lucky
>>>enough to have a nice person around me presenting me a few bottles of wine
>>>every few months, I am right now starting to enjoy it even more. Still
>>>though, I do not have much real knowledge about wine yet. I would
>>>appreciate, if someone could tell me some more about the following bottle
of
>>>wine:
>>>
>>>Cru Bourgeois
>>>Ancienne Seigneurie des Comtes de Ségur
>>>Vin de Bordeaux Grand
>>>Chateau Ségur
>>>Haut - Médoc
>>>Appellation Haut - Médoc Controlée
>>>1998
>>>Grazioli, Viticulteur A 33290 Parempuyre - France
>>>Mis en bouteille au Chateau
>>>
>>>is all that is to be read on the bottle. Is that a bottle of wine that I
>>>should be keeping a few more months or years to be better? Is it worth
>>>keeping for a while before drinking it or is it nothing too special? What
>>>about the price in money?
>>>
>>>I'd be happy about just any information you might be able to give me about
>>>that wine.
>>>
>>>Thanks, Bastian
>>
>>Welcome Bastian,
>>
>>I am not familiar with Chateau Ségur, but the Cru Bourgeois is a bit of clue
>>as to the placement in the hierarchy of Bdx. If you call the classified
>>growths as the top 5-10% of the Bdx wines, then you have a very large group
of
>>Cru Bourgeois making up around the next 20%. Within that group, there are
>>basically three classifications: Cru Bourgeois Exceptionnel (maybe 5%), Cru
>>Bourgeois Superieur (maybe 30%), then the rest is simply Cru Bourgeois. I do
>>not know how 1998 was for St-Estèphe, but considering that this wine is
>>somewhat near the "middle" of the Bdx production, it will probably not be
>>great. However, it might well be a very enjoyable wine, as most Cru
Bourgeois,
>>regardless of hierarchy, are. I hope someone knows this wine and is familiar
>>with the '98 vintage, to give you an idea of wheter it is a hold, or drink-
now
>>wine. I'd lean, out of ignorance, to drinking it now, but see what others
say,
>>in case this happened to be a tannic monster, needing a few more years to
>>develop beyond its lineage.
>>
>>Hunt
>
>A few more clues...
>
>In the last classification Chateau Ségur is a Cru Bourgeois Superieur,
>and is from Parempuyre in Haut-Médoc. Not St-Estèphe - were you
>confusing with Phélan Ségur maybe, Hunt?

Yes, obviously too many Ségurs for me <G>. That is probably where I got the
idea that it was just a Cru Bourgeois, not Superieur. Thanks for the
clarification. Heck, Bastian even listed Haut-Médoc in the post - note to
self, read ALL the data, not just some of it.
>
>Otherwise I can find nothing about it. Nothing on wine-searcher.com
>for example.
>
>Would the "Ancienne Seigneurie des Comtes de Ségur" suggest it is a
>2nd label, I wonder?
>
>A couple of charts I have just suggest 98 Medocs may still be too
>young for drinking now.
>
>--
>Steve Slatcher
>http://pobox.com/~steve.slatcher

Sounds like Bastian's wine may have just gotten better. See, I told him
to not drink it tonight, until others had logged in on his wine. Thanks for
the correction.

Hunt