Scented Nectar wrote:

>>>>>2) veganism isn't a numbers game,
>>>>
>>>> "Objecting to the 1001st Death" is simply an expression, it does
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> not
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>>>intend
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>>>>to reflect a specific number of deaths.
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>>>It absolutely implies a numbers game, yet it provides no credible or
>>>authoitative numerical facts.
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>>=====================
>>yet they have been provided. Always snipped out by the likes of
>>you....
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> As far as numbers go, usual has posted in
> alt.food.vegan proof that at it's very best the
> meat industry has a 2.5:1 crop:finalproduct
> ratio. Vegan foods of coarse have a 1:1.
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> As far as animal deaths from non-veganic
> farming goes, at best the meat industry
> causes 2.5 times the cds.

Thanks for helping to demonstrate that, contrary to the
foolish assertions of John Coleman, "veganism" VERY
MUCH IS about a numbers game.

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>>>Veganism starts with not eating animal products as a basic, and it
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> does
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>>>indeed leave much to ones own judgement. I do not regard this as a
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> flaw.
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>>>Veganism is inclusive and tries not to be too dogmatic.
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>>ROTFLMAO It's the very definition os such as practiced here on
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> usenet!
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> Why do you have to keep on being reminded
> that veganism is not a religion?

It IS a form of religion. A belief system need not
have priests and sacred texts to be a religion,
although "veganism" has things very much like priests
and sacred texts.

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>>>>It is completely unsubstantiated that "veganic" farming would be a
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>>>workable
>>>
>>>>solution to feeding the human population.
>>>
>>>There is no reason it would not work for most.
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>>It's still machine intensive you ignorant dolt.
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>
> No it's not. Veganic farming, I believe uses
> compassionate harvesting (=manual, usually).

You are wrong, and you had no basis for making the
claim in the first place; it's pure fabrication.

There is no such word as "veganic".

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>>What a load of BS. What number do you want? There is 1, the moose,
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> fool!
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>>He provides thousands of meals! Prove that your tofu substitute
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> meats
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>>cause less than 1, fool. Come on, show your claims! Soy processing
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> into
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>>tofu is an intensive process, despite your continued claims. massive
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> inputs
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>>from the petro-chemical industry are required from seeding to putting
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> the
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>>fake crap on your plate! Destruction and animal deaths around the
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> world,
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>>not just where you eat the final product. You are seriously
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> terminally
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>>ignorant if you wish to dispute that.
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> If you are going to compare a wild moose with something,
> compare it to similar wildcrafted vegan food, like wild
> raspberries, or wild apples, or wild nuts, etc. 0 cds for
> everyone. Woops, I forgot, you killed the moose!
> 1 cd for you.
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