On 8/16/2018 6:26 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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> "Druce" wrote in message ...
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> On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 12:22:13 +0100, "Ophelia" >
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>> "Druce" wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 10:42:31 +0100, "Ophelia" >
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>>> "Druce" wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:48:16 +0100, "Ophelia" >
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>>>> "Druce" wrote in message
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>>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 08:36:04 +0100, "Ophelia" >
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>>>>> That is bloody awful from my perspective. As for Boris, the polls are
>>>>> going
>>>>> up fast in his favour. So, I guess they know what they are doing
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>>>>> If we have a soft Brexit we won't be able to make our own laws, choose
>>>>> who
>>>>> comes here, we will have to live under the ECJ, and still have to pay
>>>>> £billions to keep that mob in luxury.
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>>>>> They can speak out now, which they couldn't as Ministers. Boris (who
>>>>> isn't
>>>>> my first choice) is now the favourite to be the next PM. At least he
>>>>> would
>>>>> be better than the rubbish we have now!
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>>>> So then they have to topple May before the Brexit deal is made,
>>>> otherwise she gets her soft deal. I don't know it that's possible and
>>>> what the timelines are for May's reign and the Brexit deal.
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>>>> Her reign will actually end on the 5 May 2022 under the Fixed-term
>>>> Parliaments Act 2011, unless she is booted out.
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>>>> What is happening now is to do with a 'vote of no confidence' If enough
>>>> mp's send in some kind of letter she could be out! Problem is the number
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>>>> remoaners in gov. who will back her. I don't know why we bother to have
>>>> elections when some mp's decide they don't like the results and try to
>>>> stop
>>>> them. I only hope they are acting on the preferences of their
>>>> constituents
>>>> or they will be out on their bums at the next election.
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>>>> I suppose they get their ideas from the EU who keep holding elections
>>>> until
>>>> they get the right results. They are trying to do that here now.
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>>> Isn't there also something to be gained from a soft Brexit? Better
>>> access to the internal EU market or something like that? May cs must
>>> have their reasons. I don't know much about this. It's not a hot item
>>> in NL or AU, as you can imagine.
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>>> Believe me, they need us far more then we need them. They sell HUGELY
>>> FAR
>>> MORE stuff to us!
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>> I doubt that, considering the numbers of people in UK vs EU.
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>>> They just play their game of being The Boss and insist we do what They
>>> want.
>>> Well we people are sick of it. We want our sovereignty back!
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>> Don't recent polls say most UK people want to stay in the EU now? That
>> it was just a protest vote?
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>> You can doubt all you want but you need to check it out before you start
>> deriding what I say!
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> I'm not deriding what you say, but Germany alone is a bigger economy
> than the UK, let alone the entire EU.
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>> As for polls ... how many did they ask? Was it the millions who actually
>> voted?
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> I don't know the details. I heard this on Australian TV.
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> No I don't expect they gave those. We keep hearing all the time about polls
> but when you go into it, the numbers are minute in comparison the the
> Election, as you would expect.

And you always have to see what the actual questions were. "Do you
prefer to stay in the EU, or face drastically higher taxes and
unemployment rates?" Huh?