On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 3:28:37 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-07-14 11:56 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 11:16:53 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2018-07-14 10:17 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 10:10:28 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>> On 2018-07-14 12:12 AM, graham wrote:
> >>>>> On 2018-07-13 8:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Let me put it another way. One can respect a person's right to hold
> >>>>> religious beliefs. You don't have to respect (or admire) those beliefs.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Failure to abide by some of their beliefs can get people into trouble
> >>>> sometimes. Sometimes those beliefs run counter to my beliefs. I find it
> >>>> had to accept that I should be expected to respect the belief some hold
> >>>> that their women must be covered head to toe and that should be beaten
> >>>> for failure to do so, and that they can be killed to protect the
> >>>> family's honour. Sorry, but I cant respect their right to hold religious
> >>>> beliefs like that any more than I should be able to hold beliefs like
> >>>> that privately.
> >>>
> >>> Actually, those are cultural mores more than religious beliefs. The Koran
> >>> mandates modesty of dress and behavior for both men and women:
> >>
> >>
> >> True, but they use the religion to justify it.
> >
> > Religion has been used to justify a wide variety of bad behavior, right
> > back to Moloch. It's the very fact that Christianity has, in the main,
> > calmed down that we notice extremism in the practice of Islam. Perhaps
> > Islam will get a chance to have a Reformation.
> >
>
> The Reformation wasn't exactly the calming down of Christianity, which
> was basically Catholicism at the time. Many of the Protestants were as
> bad as or worse than the Catholic Church.

But it paved the way for a more tolerant society.

Cindy Hamilton