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Graham Graham is offline
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On 2018-04-30 6:55 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-04-30 3:06 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 13:47:54 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-04-30 12:22 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Here they allow you five banker boxes full, that's it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>> last time I checked the business that does shredding charged $120 for
>>>> 15 legal boxes of paper.
>>>
>>>
>>> Wow. That isn't cheap. It seems like an awful lot just to toss a box
>>> into a machine that rips it up....with great force.

>> snip
>> When we were in business we discovered that customersÂ* thought the
>> service should be cheaper.Â* They never considered the cost of
>> machinery and maintenance, employees, insurance, etc.Â* I don't
>> begrudge the cost of shredding my paper.Â* I'm still getting rid of
>> stuff from our business.Â* I sure don't want to shred piece by piece
>> Janet US
>>

> I'm with you, Janet! People don't understand the costs of doing business
> and the worst offenders have been people who work for the government. I
> wish I had a dollar for every time one of those bozos said: "But you can
> write that off!" not understanding that you have earn that money in the
> first place. They seem to think that a write-off means that you get
> money from the government, not that it's earnings on which you don't pay
> taxes.
> Take 365 days minus 104 (weekends) -10 (public holidays) -15 (vacation)
> -5 (sick) = 231 working days. For a salary of $50k that's $216 per day
> or ~$29/hour.
> That's just base!!
> Add on office overheads, insurances (liability and health are expensive
> in the US) depreciation of equipment (those shredding trucks are very
> expensive) and $120 is VERY reasonable.
> Graham


For a company without serious equipment costs, a charge out rate of 2.5
- 3 times base salary is reckoned to be reasonable.
Graham