On 2/27/2018 8:18 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 23:01:29 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
> wrote:
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>> On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 00:23:16 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
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>>> On 2/26/2018 1:06 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 09:01:26 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> On 2/26/2018 8:20 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 07:49:29 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>> On 2/25/2018 6:04 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 21:38:47 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that's the one Do you know the origin of 'Frogmore?' I've never
>>>>>>>>>> heard the term before that I remember.
>>>>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LOL Frogmore is the name of a community (can't rightly call it a town,
>>>>>>>>> it's very small!) on Saint Helena Island which, after the Civil War was
>>>>>>>>> named Frogmore after one of the plantations. When my parents first
>>>>>>>>> built the house here in 1986 their mailing address was Frogmore. It was
>>>>>>>>> later changed by the post office back to the original name the Spanish
>>>>>>>>> gave it in the 17th century.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I gather the recipe for the "boil" originated with slaves and former
>>>>>>>>> slaves using local seafood, homemade sausage and vegetables from the garden.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Frogmore here is an estate where Queen Victoria and Prince Albert are
>>>>>>>>> buried
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder if there is a connection. Many places in the US are named
>>>>>>>> for places in Europe. Check it out, Jill.
>>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aha! The plantation was named by a John Grayson after his ancestral
>>>>>>> estate in England.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you. You get an A+ on your report ;-)
>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yay! I get a gold star. Other owners were also English.
>>>>> Lieutenant Governor William Bull acquired the land in the 1700's. He
>>>>> sold it to John and Elizabeth Stapleton, who built the "manor house" in
>>>>> 1810. The property was later acquired by Thomas Aston Coffin (whose
>>>>> family owned several other plantations in the area). When the Civil War
>>>>> broke out they fled in advance of Union soldiers, abandoning all their
>>>>> holdings in Beaufort County. Somehow a couple of missionary women from
>>>>> "up north" acquired the property in 1868.
>>>>>
>>>>> Heck, Dataw was an indigo plantation. The ruins of one of the old tabby
>>>>> manor houses (the property was owned by two brothers who were members of
>>>>> the Sams family) and the outbuildings are still here. One brother made
>>>>> a bad choice and built his tabby mansion on the other side of Dataw on
>>>>> the water. Those ruins have been reclaimed by the sea.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> tabby = oyster shells?
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>> Yes, tabby construction = oyster shells, sand and lime. The basic
>>> ingredients in very old fashioned cement. They used the materials
>>> available locally. That also dates back to the Spanish, Saint
>>> Augustine, Florida.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> This oyster shell thing has tickled my brain now about a movie with
>> maybe Denzel Washington and Angelina Jolie where there is something
>> about oyster shells being used for railroad beds at the turn of the
>> century? What the heck was the name of that thing?
>> Arggh!
>> Janet US
>
> The Bone Collector
>
Hmmmm, I didn't see the movie but I read the book by Jeffery Deaver.

Jill