On 12/17/2014 10:53 PM, [email protected]. wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 07:53:50 -0800, wrote:
> .
>> On 12/8/2014 6:30 AM, [email protected]. wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 16:21:01 -0800, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/28/2014 10:59 AM, Derek wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 01:15:26 GMT, and/or
>>>>> www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Many portions of the Vedic literature describe how the
>>>>>> Supreme Being is the maintainer of innumerable living
>>>>>> entities, humans as well as the animals, and is alive in
>>>>>> the heart of every living being. Only those with
>>>>>> spiritual consciousness can see the same Supreme Being in
>>>>>> His expansion as Supersoul within every creature. To be
>>>>>> kind and spiritual toward humans and be a killer or enemy
>>>>>> toward animals is not a balanced philosophy, and exhibits
>>>>>> one's spiritual ignorance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The next reason for being vegetarian is to consider the
>>>>>> amount of fear and suffering that animals experience in
>>>>>> the slaughter industry. There are countless stories of
>>>>>> how in fear cows cry, scream, and sometimes fall down
>>>>>> dead while inside or even before they are taken into the
>>>>>> slaughter house. Or how the veins of dead pigs are so big
>>>>>> that it shows they have practically exploded from the
>>>>>> fear the pig felt and the adrenalin that was produced
>>>>>> while it was being led to slaughter. This certainly
>>>>>> causes an immense amount of violence to permeate the
>>>>>> atmosphere, which goes out and falls back on us in some
>>>>>> form. Furthermore, the adrenalin and fear in the animal
>>>>>> also produces toxins which then permeate the body of
>>>>>> these animals, which meat-eaters ingest. People who
>>>>>> consume such things cannot help but be effected by it. It
>>>>>> causes tensions within them individually, which then
>>>>>> spreads in their relations with others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ancient Vedic text of the Manu-samhita (5.45-8) says,
>>>>>> "He who injures innoxious beings from a wish to give
>>>>>> himself pleasure never finds happiness, neither living
>>>>>> nor dead. He who does not seek to cause the suffering of
>>>>>> bonds and death to living creatures, but desires the good
>>>>>> of all beings, obtains endless bliss. . . Meat can never
>>>>>> be obtained without injury to living creatures, and
>>>>>> injury to sentient beings is detrimental to the
>>>>>> attainment of heavenly bliss; let him therefore shun the
>>>>>> use of meat."
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, well, maybe you ought to learn just how cruel your religion
>>>>> really.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://dailym.ai/1tyw9tZ
>>>>
>>>> Sweet mother of ****. Those pictures are shocking beyond words.
>>>
>>> "The last time the festival was held, in 2009, more than 250,000
>>> animals were
>>> killed, according to animal rights organisation PETA"
>>
>> The source is irrelevant; all that counts is if it's accurate.
>>
>> Those senselessly slaughtered animals did not "benefit" by "getting to
>> experience life." That's settled.
>
> You, Derek and Ru

No one by the name "Ru".

> have no way of knowing what percentage of them did and
> what percentage of them did not

We do know: 0% "benefited" from "getting to experience life. "Getting
to experience life" is not a benefit - by definition.