On 8/28/2013 11:15 AM, ****wit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,
illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and
doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:

> On 8/26/2013 1:57 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>> On 8/26/2013 12:33 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,
>> illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and
>> doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>
>>> On 8/23/2013 6:40 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>> On 8/19/2013 3:45 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,
>>>> illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and
>>>> doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/15/2013 2:47 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/15/2013 2:23 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,
>>>>>> illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and
>>>>>> doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/12/2013 8:57 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/12/2013 5:10 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,
>>>>>>>> illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8/8/2013 1:55 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/8/2013 12:54 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,
>>>>>>>>>> illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/7/2013 12:12 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/7/2013 10:45 AM, ****wit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,
>>>>>>>>>>>> illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1999
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/6/2013 4:47 PM, George Plimpton wrote:> On 8/6/2013
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3:45 PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****wit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid, illiterate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:34:33 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's here, ****wit: laboratory produced meat grown in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> container. No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cattle were brought into existence and "got to experience
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life" in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to produce this beef.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.latimes.com/business/mone...,7945932.story
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Ricardo Lopez
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> August 5, 2013, 8:29 a.m.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For a $330,000 burger, taste testers thought the flavor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fell a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The hefty price tag, however, wasn't for some fancy, rare
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cut of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, this meat had never so much as mooed in a previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beef grown in a laboratory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dutch scientists Monday unveiled their ambitious research
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the making, with a public taste test of their cultured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beef in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> London.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Volunteer tasters sampled hamburger made from the lab-grown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beef
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from stem cells. Scientists hope it can one day alleviate a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crisis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the world's population swells and help combat climate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To make the meat, scientists at Maastricht University in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Netherlands
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used muscle stem cells from two organic cows and combined
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nutrient solution. The muscle cells then grew into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strands of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meat. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes 20,000 strands to make a 5-ounce burger.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taste testers said the meat lacked the fat of a conventional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> burger,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making the taste a little underwhelming, the Associated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Press
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reported.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, it's not quite ready for market, but this could soon be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *all* meat is produced. It would be cheaper and less
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environmentally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> destructive than raising livestock. If it comes to pass,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and billions and eventually trillions of animals will never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "get to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience life" - their lives will be prevented, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "vegans"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have anything to do with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying it will come to pass, but if it does, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trillions of animals will never exist and "get to experience
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be meaningless. No one will care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've agreed with that the whole time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, that's a lie, *Gloo*. You have ****ed and moaned every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way about anything that might reduce the number of livestock
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> animals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "getting to experience life", as you so wretchedly put it in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shitty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cracker way or writing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your're
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <chortle>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lying again since
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not lying, *Gloo*. You have *always* and *only* been
>>>>>>>>>>>> ****ing
>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>> panties over the fact that "vegans" want to prevent "future farm
>>>>>>>>>>>> animals" from existing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> animals "getting to experience life", as you so wretchedly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have proven without doubt that you can't think of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to put it
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Existence, *Gloo*. That's all it is. Coming into existence
>>>>>>>>>>>> *is*
>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>> you mean. You should just say it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No Goober.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *YES*, *Gloo*. When you talk about animals "getting to experience
>>>>>>>>>> life", all you're talking about is their existence...so that
>>>>>>>>>> you can
>>>>>>>>>> consume them. That's the only thing that's important to you.
>>>>>>>>>> Everything
>>>>>>>>>> you say about something being important to or a "benefit" to
>>>>>>>>>> them is
>>>>>>>>>> just your attempt at a bullshit smokescreen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For things that exist and have the
>>>>>>>>> benefit of experiencing life
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "getting to experience life" is not a benefit - proved beyond
>>>>>>>> dispute.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It clearly appears to be,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, and it isn't. It doesn't appear to be, and it isn't. Coming into
>>>>>> existence - "getting to experience life", in your wretchedly shitty
>>>>>> illiterate cracker expression - is not a benefit. It isn't,
>>>>>> because it
>>>>>> doesn't improve welfare.
>>>>>
>>>>> No you can't and
>>>>
>>>> Existence doesn't improve welfare versus never existing, *Gloo*. It
>>>> can't be a benefit.
>>>
>>> How did you make that comparison
>>
>> No one makes it, *Gloo* - that's the very reason why "getting to
>> experience life" - aka existence - is not a benefit versus never existing.
>
> How did

You're just wasting time, *Gloo*. You lost - 14 years ago. Go do
something else.