On 8/26/2013 12:33 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,
illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and
doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:

> On 8/23/2013 6:40 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>> On 8/19/2013 3:45 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,
>> illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and
>> doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>
>>> On 8/15/2013 2:47 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>> On 8/15/2013 2:23 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,
>>>> illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and
>>>> doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/12/2013 8:57 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/12/2013 5:10 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,
>>>>>> illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and
>>>>>> doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/8/2013 1:55 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/8/2013 12:54 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,
>>>>>>>> illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8/7/2013 12:12 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/7/2013 10:45 AM, ****wit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,
>>>>>>>>>> illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/6/2013 4:47 PM, George Plimpton wrote:> On 8/6/2013 3:45 PM,
>>>>>>>>>>> ****wit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid, illiterate
>>>>>>>>>>>> cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and doing
>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>> but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:34:33 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's here, ****wit: laboratory produced meat grown in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> container. No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cattle were brought into existence and "got to experience
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life" in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to produce this beef.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.latimes.com/business/mone...,7945932.story
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Ricardo Lopez
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> August 5, 2013, 8:29 a.m.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For a $330,000 burger, taste testers thought the flavor fell a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The hefty price tag, however, wasn't for some fancy, rare
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cut of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, this meat had never so much as mooed in a previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beef grown in a laboratory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dutch scientists Monday unveiled their ambitious research
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the making, with a public taste test of their cultured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beef in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> London.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Volunteer tasters sampled hamburger made from the lab-grown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beef
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from stem cells. Scientists hope it can one day alleviate a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crisis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the world's population swells and help combat climate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To make the meat, scientists at Maastricht University in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Netherlands
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used muscle stem cells from two organic cows and combined them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nutrient solution. The muscle cells then grew into strands of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meat. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes 20,000 strands to make a 5-ounce burger.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taste testers said the meat lacked the fat of a conventional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> burger,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making the taste a little underwhelming, the Associated Press
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reported.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, it's not quite ready for market, but this could soon be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *all* meat is produced. It would be cheaper and less
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environmentally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> destructive than raising livestock. If it comes to pass, then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and billions and eventually trillions of animals will never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "get to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience life" - their lives will be prevented, and "vegans"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have anything to do with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying it will come to pass, but if it does, the fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trillions of animals will never exist and "get to experience
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be meaningless. No one will care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've agreed with that the whole time
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, that's a lie, *Gloo*. You have ****ed and moaned every step
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> way about anything that might reduce the number of livestock
>>>>>>>>>>>> animals
>>>>>>>>>>>> "getting to experience life", as you so wretchedly put it in
>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>> shitty
>>>>>>>>>>>> cracker way or writing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Your're
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <chortle>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> lying again since
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not lying, *Gloo*. You have *always* and *only* been ****ing
>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> panties over the fact that "vegans" want to prevent "future farm
>>>>>>>>>> animals" from existing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> animals "getting to experience life", as you so wretchedly
>>>>>>>>>>>> put it
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You have proven without doubt that you can't think of a
>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>> way to put it
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Existence, *Gloo*. That's all it is. Coming into existence *is*
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> you mean. You should just say it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No Goober.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *YES*, *Gloo*. When you talk about animals "getting to experience
>>>>>>>> life", all you're talking about is their existence...so that you can
>>>>>>>> consume them. That's the only thing that's important to you.
>>>>>>>> Everything
>>>>>>>> you say about something being important to or a "benefit" to them is
>>>>>>>> just your attempt at a bullshit smokescreen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For things that exist and have the
>>>>>>> benefit of experiencing life
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "getting to experience life" is not a benefit - proved beyond dispute.
>>>>>
>>>>> It clearly appears to be,
>>>>
>>>> No, and it isn't. It doesn't appear to be, and it isn't. Coming into
>>>> existence - "getting to experience life", in your wretchedly shitty
>>>> illiterate cracker expression - is not a benefit. It isn't, because it
>>>> doesn't improve welfare.
>>>
>>> No you can't and
>>
>> Existence doesn't improve welfare versus never existing, *Gloo*. It
>> can't be a benefit.
>
> How did you make that comparison

No one makes it, *Gloo* - that's the very reason why "getting to
experience life" - aka existence - is not a benefit versus never existing.