On 8/15/2013 2:23 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - stupid,
illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and
doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:

> On 8/12/2013 8:57 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>> On 8/12/2013 5:10 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - stupid,
>> illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and
>> doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>
>>> On 8/8/2013 1:55 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>> On 8/8/2013 12:54 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - stupid,
>>>> illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and
>>>> doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/7/2013 12:12 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/7/2013 10:45 AM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - stupid,
>>>>>> illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and
>>>>>> doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/6/2013 4:47 PM, George Plimpton wrote:> On 8/6/2013 3:45 PM,
>>>>>>> ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - stupid, illiterate
>>>>>>>> cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and doing
>>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>> but wasting time ever since, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:34:33 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>> It's here, ****wit: laboratory produced meat grown in a
>>>>>>>>>> container. No
>>>>>>>>>> cattle were brought into existence and "got to experience life" in
>>>>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>>>>> to produce this beef.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.latimes.com/business/mone...,7945932.story
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> By Ricardo Lopez
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> August 5, 2013, 8:29 a.m.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For a $330,000 burger, taste testers thought the flavor fell a
>>>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>>>> flat.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The hefty price tag, however, wasn't for some fancy, rare cut of
>>>>>>>>>> meat.
>>>>>>>>>> In fact, this meat had never so much as mooed in a previous life:
>>>>>>>>>> It was
>>>>>>>>>> beef grown in a laboratory.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dutch scientists Monday unveiled their ambitious research project,
>>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>>> in the making, with a public taste test of their cultured beef in
>>>>>>>>>> London.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Volunteer tasters sampled hamburger made from the lab-grown beef
>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>> from stem cells. Scientists hope it can one day alleviate a food
>>>>>>>>>> crisis
>>>>>>>>>> as the world's population swells and help combat climate change.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To make the meat, scientists at Maastricht University in the
>>>>>>>>>> Netherlands
>>>>>>>>>> used muscle stem cells from two organic cows and combined them
>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>> nutrient solution. The muscle cells then grew into strands of
>>>>>>>>>> meat. It
>>>>>>>>>> takes 20,000 strands to make a 5-ounce burger.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Taste testers said the meat lacked the fat of a conventional
>>>>>>>>>> burger,
>>>>>>>>>> making the taste a little underwhelming, the Associated Press
>>>>>>>>>> reported.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So, it's not quite ready for market, but this could soon be the
>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>> *all* meat is produced. It would be cheaper and less
>>>>>>>>>> environmentally
>>>>>>>>>> destructive than raising livestock. If it comes to pass, then
>>>>>>>>>> billions
>>>>>>>>>> and billions and eventually trillions of animals will never
>>>>>>>>>> "get to
>>>>>>>>>> experience life" - their lives will be prevented, and "vegans"
>>>>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>>>>> have anything to do with it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying it will come to pass, but if it does, the fact that
>>>>>>>>>> trillions of animals will never exist and "get to experience life"
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> be meaningless. No one will care.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've agreed with that the whole time
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, that's a lie, *Goo*. You have ****ed and moaned every step
>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>> way about anything that might reduce the number of livestock animals
>>>>>>>> "getting to experience life", as you so wretchedly put it in your
>>>>>>>> shitty
>>>>>>>> cracker way or writing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your're
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <chortle>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lying again since
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not lying, *Gloo*. You have *always* and *only* been ****ing your
>>>>>> panties over the fact that "vegans" want to prevent "future farm
>>>>>> animals" from existing.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> animals "getting to experience life", as you so wretchedly put it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have proven without doubt that you can't think of a better
>>>>>>> way to put it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Existence, *Gloo*. That's all it is. Coming into existence *is* what
>>>>>> you mean. You should just say it.
>>>>>
>>>>> No Goober.
>>>>
>>>> *YES*, *Gloo*. When you talk about animals "getting to experience
>>>> life", all you're talking about is their existence...so that you can
>>>> consume them. That's the only thing that's important to you. Everything
>>>> you say about something being important to or a "benefit" to them is
>>>> just your attempt at a bullshit smokescreen.
>>>
>>> For things that exist and have the
>>> benefit of experiencing life
>>
>> "getting to experience life" is not a benefit - proved beyond dispute.
>
> It clearly appears to be,

No, and it isn't. It doesn't appear to be, and it isn't. Coming into
existence - "getting to experience life", in your wretchedly shitty
illiterate cracker expression - is not a benefit. It isn't, because it
doesn't improve welfare.